I'm actually more aligned with Hasan on the gambling issue but Train is absolutely correct. The anti gambling activism and virtue signaling indeed stopped once Train was hit. Which makes it pretty obvious that it was an anti Train movement more than an anti gambling movement. If it was a real principle, if it was their real belief they wouldn't stop pressuring / boycotting Twitch until they got rid of the other gambling stuff as well. They didn't, which was a self report. Hasan and Poki have to hold this L. They were unquestionably hypocritical and inconsistent.
Lmfao this is the take on not understanding the american economic hypocrisy so you yell at someone that fights against it in anyway. Piss boy take. Fucking nothing but piss boys
what bothers me is how they can point fingers at others, when Hasan for example allows racism against a certain group or person run rampant in his discord, or how he has these strong takes on transphobia, homophobia and misogyny but never dares to call out the W community that's infested with those things
this usually happens with all politics. people push and get some wins and the movement loses steam. twitch was purposefully proactive to avoid public pressure mounting and creating an organized twitch community (imagine if they asked for more worker rights). this was just a smaller and more visible scale for most people unfamiliar with how this stuff turns out. Hasan continues to criticize other forms of gamba on the platform including ads and partnerships for twitch. it really just was other streamers who stopped caring. Pokimane entered her semi-retirement arc and Mizkif himself got cancelled. I think Hasan and his community really only started pushing anti-gamba other than his usual streams when the general twitch public and other creators joined him. it makes sense imo. otherwise, if he tried to push anything alone and publicly, the amount of judgment he'd get would be insane. he'd need to be able to say it isn't just him and his leftist community for any kind of broader movement.
I think he's over explaining kind of .. sometimes I have a cold or flu and can't read or even listen to audio books without having to keep going back over stuff
@@fungdark8270 I had one recently and it doesn’t hurt the whole time. Mine only hurt for like 2 days but the vertigo and loss of hearing had gone on for like a week before and lasted like two weeks after I stopped feeling pain. Basically not all middle ear infections have the same timeline.
@@diegogonzalezvazq What hurts is when the liquid that's been building up bursts through the thin ear drum. You'll get one big sting of pain, after which you'll usually have some pulsing pain, I think doctors describe it as a radiating pain. But before and after the eardrum bursts, you'll have an extreme loss of hearing, and some pressure in your ear, and then general flu symptoms as well. With the flu symptoms, you might experience brain fog effects, but you'll also be similarly physically exhausted due to the fever you'll develop. I know a lot about middle ear infections xD. I've had them routinely since I was a kid, due to meninghitis complications from early childhood.
I’m a moron so I didn’t notice it much but I’m sure I had the brain fog too. It’s really common. It left me drained physical for a year though. Probably cause I have asthma.
@@RS-fy9hbidek poki does wack shit but I’m p sure she’s just pandering or trying to fit in and doesn’t know what she’s doing. hasan seems for malicious lmao. i’d have to look more into poki tho.
So basically you are a spineless pushover. Why would anyone concede on something that isnt true? You shouldnt publicly be telling us how weak willed you are.
By the way, it's beyond hilarious seeing someone in Destiny's community telling other people to concede. Destiny doesn't concede on anything even when he is wrong
the way train explains how he feels at the start while being sick or w/e is literally word for word how I felt a few months ago when I had something, wasn't covid, wasn't flu, didn't have a sinus infection apparently, and my nose was mostly fine so I would assume it wasn't a cold, also when it started passing my throat got super sore
@@shiiswii4136 twisting reality to fit a narrative is just a human innocently expressing their thoughts, you're completely right. I should've been real for a minute smh
These kinds of videos always prove to me that Destiny's fans can't seem to channel any of his charitability. Whenever someone comes on that they've decided to hate no matter what, it's the exact same fucking bubble as any of the people they criticize.
The editor is a representative of your brand, just like if you were an employee at any company. If he has a twitter that has a disclaimer, something like the opinions and views expressed on this page are mine and mine alone", then that could be acceptable.
reminds me of that guy that made some argument about it "being okay to do in private as long as you dont announce it publicly" while simultaneously announcing he did something privately to the public.... who was that again?
@@hugohuge1963 you're thinking about Hasan during the n word arc lol. he unironically told Destiny it would be fine to say the n word in private as long as he did not say it was ok to do so (say it in private) in public, whilst literally doing exactly that.
I hate the "think of the children" argument when it comes to gambling and anything else. You can use children to justify the banning of anything. I like gambling, it is fun. For sure it requires heavy regulation to prevent people from getting ripped off, but that's besides the point. Twitch is not a children's app/website. If you're going to ban gambling, you must ban legal drug use, drinking, sexual content, M rated gaming, etc. It's a bullshit argument. Not to mention gaming has an addiction rate of ~3%, gambling has one of ~1%. Hasan should be advocating for the banning of twitch as a gaming platform.
@TooPurple see how you said idk and then said something. you don't know a clear course of action. an ad campaign for what specifically? where do the ads play? how would that change the platform. how would that make any meaningful impact and not be a waste of money? which would just open him up for claims of virtue signaling again or wasting money rather than donating it. the concerns for gamba were for crypto based websites which were incredibly easy for minors to utilize. Hasan has said himself that he likes to gamble. he's not against all gambling. he's against [pseudo] glorifying it and it being on a platform largely used by children.
@@aweshumandy You asked for an example how he could do more and i gave you one. Starting an ad campain is def "more" than sitting in a chair in front of a camera and whining about it lol.
46:15 I feel like I'm getting trolled, did we not start off by saying that if ostonox said something he disagreed with he'd speak up? Am I going insane? How many times do we have to retread this?
Streamers: “I’m not in the business of controlling my mods/editors.” Translation: “I agree with everything they said, but don’t have the balls to say it.”
What is this title? This debate was already pre arranged. No one dragged anyone here. xqc doesn't "step in" he was already agreed to moderate lul wat. also, can't believe they made hasan of all people look good somehow.
@@kami_1789 is it really a big deal? Xqc stepped in to set the debate in and he dragged his friends into the debate. Clearly train already thought the comvo was goimg to be useless.
Don’t listen to ppl that say 2x the speed please. If you wanna 1.5x or 1.25x speed, that’s fine. But 2x can be annoying at times, bc I can’t hear ever word or I miss something. Please and thank you 🙏
I like how destiny said that Hasan is looking for any kind of inconsistency while clearly looking for any kind of inconsistency himself. When Hasan started reacting is not really that relevant and does not prove Hasan incorrect about the actual topic, but Destiny jumped on that fast.
How is it not relevant? Train claims that Hasan were shitting on him for streaming shows in 2018. Hasan's counter to that is that he was a react andy from the start. If he wasn't then that dosen't refute Train's point
@@m00rons Because the important part is if he actually was shitting on him for it, not if he was doing reaction at the same time. He could be wrong but it does not make the accusation correct. Also, Train did not make a point he made an accusation that he could not back up.
@@cbk1233 I don't disagree that Train couldn't back it up in the convo, but Hasan is blatantely lying here which makes me suspicious. He can't admit any faults of his own in general so that adds to my suspicion
Anti gambling arguments feel so dumb to me because people are addicted to alcohol but you still see people drinking on tv shows,commercials, etc. Addiction all depends on the person. Some people have a predisposition to addiction and some people dont. Should we just not have anything prone to addiction online, etc?
bro that taybor "twitch historian" guy, literally sucked Train pencil at the beginning and then comes in and pretends he has the timeline down. Disguised Toast only watched anime after everybody else had watched Master Chef, you can literally look up his Oturan (Naruto) tweets... that was 2021 when most big guys were already on the later seasons of Gordon
Trainwrecks could legally sue HasanAbi’s editor for Slander of his name and charitable works. End of debate. It is really ignorant of Hasan to allow his editor, freedom to slander people and their image online, just to create drama/content. But you can see proof that for Hasan, Content is the only thing he is really interested in making since it makes the most engagement. You can clearly see through him when he says at 49:39 minutes “Oh I feel like this isn’t good content at this point”. Lot of disingenuous arguments being thrown around lol
@1:00:07 So if I had to guess, "You can not always obtain a flawless victory. When you are too outclassed you take what you can get. Is it enough? No. What do you do then? Grind some more, level up, and try again." ;)
If they can’t find any clips or evidence of him saying that, then what’s the issue? Even if Hasan has the timeline wrong, then what’s the issue, who cares. Feels like Train is lumping all of the criticism from a certain type of person on Twitter onto Hasan which feels silly
So clips dont last forever, what hes mentioning is real. I remember how hard they were trying to make gordon / reacting bannable. Poki is in the same light, ironically months after they were reacting watching similar if not the same content. Poki and hasan are some of the fakest humans on the planet unfortunately.
@@MLitey Bullshit. Mfers can find clips of streamers 10 years past. If even the deepest clippers can't find shit. You're argument is invalid. Don't matter what your memory is "Mr. Trust Me Bro I Remember"
"What about poker, or other addictions like alcohol. Why aren't you devoting your life's existence against gambling. If you hate it so much why do you make compromises" - literally sponsored by gambling sites 🤢🤢
My favorite line from this video was when Hasan said there was a difference between what he likes to do personally vs. what he does on camera. @1:01:39.
@@33y33-d7mbut saying that he does it at all presents it as something desirable to do, right? If he doesn’t endorse it on stream then he shouldn’t speak of it at all. This was Hasan’s view on the n-word in private, so should it be his view on anything potentially harmful
@@33y33-d7m Wait what? Are you trolling or.. Saying you, a streamer, an “influencer” does/uses/owns something, is promoting it by default. Companies pay millions for streamers only to mention and act as if they use their products off-stream. It’s literally advertisement 101 lmao
@@aClownBaby- yes? In a way? Like if you’re playing a game, you’re technically promoting it even if you don’t say “guys download this game it’s really fun”, or if you’re wearing someone’s merch but don’t specifically say “this is BLANK’S merch, go buy it”. Their audience sees what the streamer is doing/wearing/using and will either think of it as cool and do/wear/use it on their own.
@@kami_1789 ok explain the difference between tax and the system thing he is doing and what are the cons and pros because I don't think there is a crazy difference
I legit never heard of this covid brain fog people are talking about, but I had it a couple weeks ago and I definitely feel like my brain is foggy, it’s like I have a headache but it’s not aching. Idk hard to explain
If I was an owner of an NFL team and my team won and got rings, I would buy everyone a ring. Why not. It doesnt lessen the meaning of the ring. If anything it makes the meaning of a team mean more.
@@chpgmr1372 well unfortunately for you, no one asked if you cared or not. I can understand owners keeping rings to the coaches and players and not the miscellaneous staff. Makes sense to reward the people who actually mattered and had a hand in winning
I’m sure this is an extremely tired point to make but WHAT THE FUCK IS XQC SAYING?!?!?EVER?!?! Like I’m not the type of person to call someone out for something like that but I can’t fucking understand him and it drives me fucking crazy. Also, train’s lighting is fucking terrible.
@1:04:12 Did he not start out as a reactor to political vids? Or was he a gaming/just chatting lad? I admit the only content of his I know is from early appearances on Destiny's stream.
You can be for everyone being able to participate on social media and still moderate your own community how you see fit. Pretty sure he's said he doesn't want an anti fan community like how Mr girls subreddit has now become
@@killinger94 sounds like you are projecting because there's 0 anger on my comment and just furthers the narrative it's all about content. It's you who wants to be emotionally invested
@@wrusst yeah its me wanting to part of a community that has the weirdest biggest blindspot when the name hasan is mentioned. It makes us all look like fucking morons.
@@goody2003 oof, sounds like the bad excuses of wittle scaredy-cat phanboii! Just let it happen then, what's the worst that could happen? Surely big-Laddy-Lasan wouldn't end up look dumb and that's why he's been ducking that debate for years?!
@51:02 So I don't know my lore on this, so feel free to correct me, but has Hasan called out people by name or does Train just stuffer from MCS and assume all talks of "gambling bad" refer to himself? Does he "feel" called out or is he by name called out?
if you have a huge audience and do something others perceive as bad, why tf shouldn't you be name called???? he's being a sensitive 😺. does he think people are okay with gambling, as long he (Train) doesn't get to do it and is canceled. People have their opinions, what a shocker.
I'm actually more aligned with Hasan on the gambling issue but Train is absolutely correct. The anti gambling activism and virtue signaling indeed stopped once Train was hit. Which makes it pretty obvious that it was an anti Train movement more than an anti gambling movement. If it was a real principle, if it was their real belief they wouldn't stop pressuring / boycotting Twitch until they got rid of the other gambling stuff as well. They didn't, which was a self report.
Hasan and Poki have to hold this L. They were unquestionably hypocritical and inconsistent.
It was predicted at the beginning it would end the way it did, and at this point, it's just sad that they're so predictable.
Lmfao this is the take on not understanding the american economic hypocrisy so you yell at someone that fights against it in anyway. Piss boy take. Fucking nothing but piss boys
what bothers me is how they can point fingers at others, when Hasan for example allows racism against a certain group or person run rampant in his discord, or how he has these strong takes on transphobia, homophobia and misogyny but never dares to call out the W community that's infested with those things
I mean the government doesn't do it differently, do they stop all crime? No, but they make an example of the biggest and most well known cases.
this usually happens with all politics. people push and get some wins and the movement loses steam. twitch was purposefully proactive to avoid public pressure mounting and creating an organized twitch community (imagine if they asked for more worker rights). this was just a smaller and more visible scale for most people unfamiliar with how this stuff turns out. Hasan continues to criticize other forms of gamba on the platform including ads and partnerships for twitch. it really just was other streamers who stopped caring. Pokimane entered her semi-retirement arc and Mizkif himself got cancelled. I think Hasan and his community really only started pushing anti-gamba other than his usual streams when the general twitch public and other creators joined him. it makes sense imo. otherwise, if he tried to push anything alone and publicly, the amount of judgment he'd get would be insane. he'd need to be able to say it isn't just him and his leftist community for any kind of broader movement.
"Cancelled" basically just means briefly took some heat over something at this point.
Three streamers I have never watched a single stream of yet I'm about to watch an hour of them whining at each other. Fun.
No one's forcing you to be here xD
i bet youll follow destiny to rumble too sheep
Never seen the scuffed podcast? Damn, missing out
For lore purposes, if you're interested...
Watch the Scuffed Podcast. (Trainwrecks is the host.)
And you'll understand many things..
@@Heroinexoxo Thanks. Will check it out.
comrade piker truly has seized the means of production ✊🏿✊🏻✊
Intellectually
And he’s putting them to work. He doesn’t pay his editor or mods. That’s Capitalist AF
@@donjulio420 no its more like feudalism. In capitalism you get paid.
well if he produced anything
@@woodsmand True fuck Hasan
Train is describing a middle ear infection basically perfectly.
Nah, that shit hurts and he’s not complaining of pain.
Probably allergies or Covid or something lol
I think he's over explaining kind of .. sometimes I have a cold or flu and can't read or even listen to audio books without having to keep going back over stuff
@@fungdark8270 I had one recently and it doesn’t hurt the whole time. Mine only hurt for like 2 days but the vertigo and loss of hearing had gone on for like a week before and lasted like two weeks after I stopped feeling pain.
Basically not all middle ear infections have the same timeline.
@@diegogonzalezvazq What hurts is when the liquid that's been building up bursts through the thin ear drum. You'll get one big sting of pain, after which you'll usually have some pulsing pain, I think doctors describe it as a radiating pain. But before and after the eardrum bursts, you'll have an extreme loss of hearing, and some pressure in your ear, and then general flu symptoms as well. With the flu symptoms, you might experience brain fog effects, but you'll also be similarly physically exhausted due to the fever you'll develop.
I know a lot about middle ear infections xD. I've had them routinely since I was a kid, due to meninghitis complications from early childhood.
@@RS-fy9hb damn that’s really unfortunate. I had that burst of pain happen to me.
How often do you get them if you don’t mind me asking?
I got the brain fog last year and man I felt like an idiot for at least 3 months.
Only a man made disease would have symptoms like that
Yea I got covid last year and the brain fog it gave me lasted about that long. I forgot what it was like to feel normal
I’m a moron so I didn’t notice it much but I’m sure I had the brain fog too. It’s really common. It left me drained physical for a year though. Probably cause I have asthma.
Hasan's chair got wrecked in this debate.
Best comment
Time stamp? Or just because he’s big?
@@Blarmit’s a meme because Hasan sometimes goes to the bathroom and leaves videos running, so you just see his chair. But he didn’t leave during this
ayy, i understood that reference
when i have destiny on 1.5 speed and the other vods are sped up too my brain implodes
Sounds like covid longhaul symptoms I was dealing with for about 6 months. Driving & getting confused in your own neighborhood is a strange feeling.
Train needs to pay destiny to help put a manifesto together
You joke but a manifesto would be great for hasan and poki how they target cancel like Russia
@@MLitey lol
@@MLitey I don't understand what you commented, and how'd poki get roped in? Is there a mention of the in group of twitch streamers?
@@RS-fy9hbidek poki does wack shit but I’m p sure she’s just pandering or trying to fit in and doesn’t know what she’s doing. hasan seems for malicious lmao. i’d have to look more into poki tho.
XQC was so calm I realized he had an accent that doesn't come through when he's yelling or destroying property
Idk why I like xqc so much he just seems so down to earth when you can translate his jibberish
Hassan's inability to concede even on the silliest dumbest points reminds me of my 7 year old brother
Why are you arguing with your brother?😂
@@JustN0tMe no siblings detected
Just smack him and he’ll shut up. No need to argue lol
So basically you are a spineless pushover. Why would anyone concede on something that isnt true? You shouldnt publicly be telling us how weak willed you are.
By the way, it's beyond hilarious seeing someone in Destiny's community telling other people to concede. Destiny doesn't concede on anything even when he is wrong
25:50 why do the first couple sentences sound like an AI train,hasan,xqc conversation 😂
The brain fog after Covid is a real thing. Took me about 6 months to completely come out of that.
I took a test yesterday found i have covid and i feel like train was in my mind he was discribeing what im feeling so much lol
Explain this "COVID fog".
@@cosmicroach9984 idk how to explain it sorry it might not even be real i might just be mind fucking myself
@@cosmicroach9984 it's a dogwhistle for vaccine injured
I got it in June of 2022, still have chronic fog. I can only handle one college class now. Its fucking ridic.
the way train explains how he feels at the start while being sick or w/e is literally word for word how I felt a few months ago when I had something, wasn't covid, wasn't flu, didn't have a sinus infection apparently, and my nose was mostly fine so I would assume it wasn't a cold, also when it started passing my throat got super sore
RSV is most likely what you had comrade
So frustrating seeing so little charity being granted to anyone in this whole thing. Oops I mean seeing so little system being granted lol
Lol
All because Hasan reacted to a clip of xQc AI saying Train would beat Hasan in a debate
No way? 😂 stun locked in ai comment
bro i need the link to this
train reached out to hasan through xqc to have this discussion, the anti hasan propaganda is on another level of unhinged
@@공상가-t3c it's not propaganda, it's real human beings expressing their thoughts. Be real for a minute dude
@@shiiswii4136 twisting reality to fit a narrative is just a human innocently expressing their thoughts, you're completely right. I should've been real for a minute smh
These kinds of videos always prove to me that Destiny's fans can't seem to channel any of his charitability. Whenever someone comes on that they've decided to hate no matter what, it's the exact same fucking bubble as any of the people they criticize.
TRUUUUUUUUUUUE
Yeeeeep
???
very fking true. destiny fans are exactly what they hate.
Is this a troll or goblin posting, can’t tell which breed of creature
9:37 - 9:44 Destiny projecting heavy right there.
“train gets dragged into a debate” lmao
Hasan: "They threw us a bone! We won!
Train: 😒
The editor is a representative of your brand, just like if you were an employee at any company. If he has a twitter that has a disclaimer, something like the opinions and views expressed on this page are mine and mine alone", then that could be acceptable.
LOVE that Hasan brings up things he does in public vs private at about 1:50:00, never heard any streamer man talk about that before
reminds me of that guy that made some argument about it "being okay to do in private as long as you dont announce it publicly" while simultaneously announcing he did something privately to the public.... who was that again?
Bro you watching the extended LOTR version?
@@hugohuge1963 you're thinking about Hasan during the n word arc lol. he unironically told Destiny it would be fine to say the n word in private as long as he did not say it was ok to do so (say it in private) in public, whilst literally doing exactly that.
Ah yes the "debates are cringe" guy is going to come out his shell to debate the biggest intellectual of all time, Trainwrecks..
I came for the debate. I stayed for Train not understanding lighting and exposure and trying his damnest to refocus his camera 🤣
I hate the "think of the children" argument when it comes to gambling and anything else. You can use children to justify the banning of anything. I like gambling, it is fun. For sure it requires heavy regulation to prevent people from getting ripped off, but that's besides the point. Twitch is not a children's app/website. If you're going to ban gambling, you must ban legal drug use, drinking, sexual content, M rated gaming, etc. It's a bullshit argument. Not to mention gaming has an addiction rate of ~3%, gambling has one of ~1%. Hasan should be advocating for the banning of twitch as a gaming platform.
lol funny that his idea of "doing something and pushing against it" is just talking about it in a video, when he objectively could do so much more
such as?
@@aweshumandy If he really cared about gambling he could idk start an ad campain or something
@TooPurple see how you said idk and then said something. you don't know a clear course of action. an ad campaign for what specifically? where do the ads play? how would that change the platform. how would that make any meaningful impact and not be a waste of money? which would just open him up for claims of virtue signaling again or wasting money rather than donating it.
the concerns for gamba were for crypto based websites which were incredibly easy for minors to utilize. Hasan has said himself that he likes to gamble. he's not against all gambling. he's against [pseudo] glorifying it and it being on a platform largely used by children.
@@aweshumandy You asked for an example how he could do more and i gave you one. Starting an ad campain is def "more" than sitting in a chair in front of a camera and whining about it lol.
@@Anfallhund What a braindead suggestion
46:15 I feel like I'm getting trolled, did we not start off by saying that if ostonox said something he disagreed with he'd speak up? Am I going insane?
How many times do we have to retread this?
Streamers: “I’m not in the business of controlling my mods/editors.”
Translation: “I agree with everything they said, but don’t have the balls to say it.”
34:07 AM I INSANE? LOOK AT DGG CHAT, TURN SOUND UP, DOES THE FUCKING PEPE GUN EMOTE HAVE A QUIET SOUND EFFECT? I AM EXPERIENCING PSYCHOSIS? LMFAO
Why are people asking for 2x? XQC is unintelligible at normal speed.
He speaks in double tap
Yeah, but that's Trains argument, that Hassan's editor was trying to get him canceled.
Destiny should make ppl ask before they call in to say something random lol
That guy who joined the call towards the end is referring to a more recent thing. Train is referring to way back in the day, definitely pre pandemic
Is there’s vod of destiny reacting to full ‘debate’?? I want to see what he thought of train and hasan talking about socialism
lmfao proxy debates being waged by destiny 😭 it’s like the cold war they can’t directly debate
Darius is a ticking timebomb. Careful.
90k subs and too lazy to add timestamps?
was this reaction streamed on youtube or kick or rumble
The world may never know...
Not kik I think it was TH-cam
Rumble stream 22:38
What is this title? This debate was already pre arranged. No one dragged anyone here. xqc doesn't "step in" he was already agreed to moderate lul wat.
also, can't believe they made hasan of all people look good somehow.
Xqc dragged train in the debate.
@@cngotham4111 xqc set it up? Does that mean he dragged them both in?
@@kami_1789 is it really a big deal? Xqc stepped in to set the debate in and he dragged his friends into the debate. Clearly train already thought the comvo was goimg to be useless.
Don’t listen to ppl that say 2x the speed please. If you wanna 1.5x or 1.25x speed, that’s fine. But 2x can be annoying at times, bc I can’t hear ever word or I miss something. Please and thank you 🙏
Listening to xQc is so painful. I can only understand him half the time, and the other half I wish I hadn't.
I like how destiny said that Hasan is looking for any kind of inconsistency while clearly looking for any kind of inconsistency himself. When Hasan started reacting is not really that relevant and does not prove Hasan incorrect about the actual topic, but Destiny jumped on that fast.
How is it not relevant? Train claims that Hasan were shitting on him for streaming shows in 2018. Hasan's counter to that is that he was a react andy from the start. If he wasn't then that dosen't refute Train's point
@@m00rons Because the important part is if he actually was shitting on him for it, not if he was doing reaction at the same time. He could be wrong but it does not make the accusation correct.
Also, Train did not make a point he made an accusation that he could not back up.
@@cbk1233 I don't disagree that Train couldn't back it up in the convo, but Hasan is blatantely lying here which makes me suspicious. He can't admit any faults of his own in general so that adds to my suspicion
Why did august reupload this? Steven hardly interacted with the debate
Anti gambling arguments feel so dumb to me because people are addicted to alcohol but you still see people drinking on tv shows,commercials, etc. Addiction all depends on the person. Some people have a predisposition to addiction and some people dont. Should we just not have anything prone to addiction online, etc?
imagine comparing slots to alcohol
@@Element_Doom Imagine not even entertaining the argument
@@ShinyChimpee eat a tidepod baby
3:17 bros having a bad trip 😂😂
Trainwrecks is the Hunter S Thompson of Twitch.
Chill
Damn, I'm early; no drama in the comments yet.
Come back, there's some Hasan fans here now.
When i had covid i had the fog that stopped me thinking .
Based on that first 5 minutes trains smoking too much weed lmao
bro that taybor "twitch historian" guy, literally sucked Train pencil at the beginning and then comes in and pretends he has the timeline down. Disguised Toast only watched anime after everybody else had watched Master Chef, you can literally look up his Oturan (Naruto) tweets... that was 2021 when most big guys were already on the later seasons of Gordon
Happy Nowruz!
43:36 - „What??“ Haha 😂😂
Trainwrecks could legally sue HasanAbi’s editor for Slander of his name and charitable works. End of debate.
It is really ignorant of Hasan to allow his editor, freedom to slander people and their image online, just to create drama/content. But you can see proof that for Hasan, Content is the only thing he is really interested in making since it makes the most engagement. You can clearly see through him when he says at 49:39 minutes “Oh I feel like this isn’t good content at this point”.
Lot of disingenuous arguments being thrown around lol
damn bro someone put timestamps
repent to God
Timestamps are necessary ong fr fr
@@ChillAssTurtle no cap on a stack
@@chembabe8264 a rack of decaf on a backpackkkkkk
@@Baggerz182 worship Buddha
@1:00:07 So if I had to guess,
"You can not always obtain a flawless victory. When you are too outclassed you take what you can get. Is it enough? No. What do you do then? Grind some more, level up, and try again."
;)
August is so goated, actual king
If they can’t find any clips or evidence of him saying that, then what’s the issue? Even if Hasan has the timeline wrong, then what’s the issue, who cares. Feels like Train is lumping all of the criticism from a certain type of person on Twitter onto Hasan which feels silly
So clips dont last forever, what hes mentioning is real. I remember how hard they were trying to make gordon / reacting bannable. Poki is in the same light, ironically months after they were reacting watching similar if not the same content. Poki and hasan are some of the fakest humans on the planet unfortunately.
@@MLitey source: trust me bro
@@MLitey unlike Train who orchestrated and performed a crypto scam on his own fans?
@@MLitey
Bullshit. Mfers can find clips of streamers 10 years past. If even the deepest clippers can't find shit. You're argument is invalid. Don't matter what your memory is "Mr. Trust Me Bro I Remember"
"What about poker, or other addictions like alcohol. Why aren't you devoting your life's existence against gambling. If you hate it so much why do you make compromises"
- literally sponsored by gambling sites 🤢🤢
4:20 Happy Nowruz to everyone.
I have to listen extra hard to understand Xqc he talks super fast in sentence fragments
french canadian moment
Train playing 8-d chess at the start of the video lmao
My favorite line from this video was when Hasan said there was a difference between what he likes to do personally vs. what he does on camera. @1:01:39.
obviously there’s a difference LOL when he’s gambling off-stream he’s not influencing anyone… so if he does harm to anyone it’s himself at the end…
@@33y33-d7m wow great point, wonder who made it a few years ago. Hasan and his community vehemently disagreed with it 🤔
@@33y33-d7mbut saying that he does it at all presents it as something desirable to do, right?
If he doesn’t endorse it on stream then he shouldn’t speak of it at all.
This was Hasan’s view on the n-word in private, so should it be his view on anything potentially harmful
@@33y33-d7m Wait what? Are you trolling or.. Saying you, a streamer, an “influencer” does/uses/owns something, is promoting it by default. Companies pay millions for streamers only to mention and act as if they use their products off-stream. It’s literally advertisement 101 lmao
@@aClownBaby- yes? In a way? Like if you’re playing a game, you’re technically promoting it even if you don’t say “guys download this game it’s really fun”, or if you’re wearing someone’s merch but don’t specifically say “this is BLANK’S merch, go buy it”. Their audience sees what the streamer is doing/wearing/using and will either think of it as cool and do/wear/use it on their own.
Hassan was sooooo weasely in this debate 😂 I don’t know how people watch this frat boy
And train wasn't? The guy kept insisting on a "system" not thinking he's describing a charity lol
You don't know how people watch him as you're watching him. Nice!
@@kami_1789 are you talking about his mental health charity?
Do you know how mental health or health in general is provided?
@@kami_1789 ok explain the difference between tax and the system thing he is doing and what are the cons and pros because I don't think there is a crazy difference
@@dickiesdocos was watching a Destiny vid😂🙈🙈
can Destiny talk to people without yawning loudly in their face whenever they start talking lol?
I legit never heard of this covid brain fog people are talking about, but I had it a couple weeks ago and I definitely feel like my brain is foggy, it’s like I have a headache but it’s not aching. Idk hard to explain
Trainwrecks makes me wanna stream on kick so much, great face of kick
Hasan makes me wanna kick him on stream so much, great face for kick
Please add time stamps
Who is the 49ers player that was on the call ?
Bruh we got orbiters on the niners??
Having literally 0 prep not even a clip beforehand but talk for an hour is soooooo sleeper for either side
@1:07:43 lol, it's not that he bought a house it's the type of house.
So slimy.
2:46 himbo moment
@2:00 - in 2016 I had a really bad flu with the fever and everything and I feel like I went on a mushroom trip for 3 days
1:02:15 Holy shit, people that think slots are bad, would think people that have a big audience promoting gambling are pieces of shit? NOOO WAAAYY
Hahaha the highest paid athletes in the world complaining they only get 2 free meals a day . Cringeeeeee
If I was an owner of an NFL team and my team won and got rings, I would buy everyone a ring. Why not. It doesnt lessen the meaning of the ring. If anything it makes the meaning of a team mean more.
Tbf, because the person who runs the Twitter account had fuck all to do with the victory, as an example
@@vorbo01 I dont care, toss them a ring. Its jewelry.
@@chpgmr1372 well unfortunately for you, no one asked if you cared or not. I can understand owners keeping rings to the coaches and players and not the miscellaneous staff. Makes sense to reward the people who actually mattered and had a hand in winning
@@vorbo01 no shit sherlock. its youtubes comment section.
Timestamp for the editor/moderator moment?
Do it I dare ya
1:27:00 and it’s only the part from the intro. Dumb
I'm sorry, but as non-english speaker I have no idea what xQc is saying))
Why is XQC dressed like a Mormon missionary?
Train seems genuine and sincere. He shouldn’t debate a person who ostensibly lacks these traits.
did we watch the same video?
@@12sleep3 I watched the non autism video. The one where hasan for years has been a showman and a non intellect. Do fuck your I say what I wish.
He might be genuine, but he also seems really dumb. He couldn't grasp the most basic of concepts, unless he's doing this intentionally to annoy Hasan.
Genuinely mentally ill and sincerely addicted to blow
@@bonkling like what
I’m sure this is an extremely tired point to make but WHAT THE FUCK IS XQC SAYING?!?!?EVER?!?! Like I’m not the type of person to call someone out for something like that but I can’t fucking understand him and it drives me fucking crazy. Also, train’s lighting is fucking terrible.
"I am nalt flends wilth yu bolth" okay X talk less
What does Tabor think about McCaffrey and all the people that want to see football done away with?
@1:04:12 Did he not start out as a reactor to political vids? Or was he a gaming/just chatting lad? I admit the only content of his I know is from early appearances on Destiny's stream.
Train sounds Vaxxed in the beginning
Train is just feeling shitty after doing so many lines the other day lmao
Why does destiny say he hates how social media bans people but is quick to ban people in his comment section and his reddit page? 🤔
You can be for everyone being able to participate on social media and still moderate your own community how you see fit. Pretty sure he's said he doesn't want an anti fan community like how Mr girls subreddit has now become
@@garrymiller3171 but the social media site can't moderate their own website?
2v1 still lost 💀
@Hello There "I don't need to have evidence" GigaChad
@Hello There lul i was just agreeing with you and quoting what train said word for word in the convo
Hasan weasling through discussions sounds exactly like when a dumb person thinks theyre is smart
What did he weasel out of?
@@kami_1789 TH-cam comments have a character limit
@@kami_1789 When Train asked if he pay his editors and mods he first said yes, then when Train questioned him again he walked the whole thing back.
Would love to know who's offering $500k for Hasan to play poker on stream. I highly doubt its HCL, The Bike or The Lodge.
Once Hassan said I feel this isn't good content to invoke XQC to step in, made it lose all sincerity to me about burying any sort of hatch .
Destiny is right about Hasan, he's a clout monger whos words change based on his surroundings
It's weird how you're so angry for someone making money off of morons. Irony is unbearable
@@killinger94 sounds like you are projecting because there's 0 anger on my comment and just furthers the narrative it's all about content. It's you who wants to be emotionally invested
@@wrusst yeah its me wanting to part of a community that has the weirdest biggest blindspot when the name hasan is mentioned. It makes us all look like fucking morons.
Who is this guy that signed with the 49ers?
I wish we could get a destiny hassan convo
Hasan won't accept. Closest thing we'll get is a proxy debate. Last time it was xqc, now train? Haven't watched the video yet.
Nah, it'll never happen again. Lasan too much of a wittle scaredy-cat with a huge ego. Lmao!
@@hjoernetdestiny would just whine like a child and nothing of any substance would said
@@goody2003 oof, sounds like the bad excuses of wittle scaredy-cat phanboii! Just let it happen then, what's the worst that could happen? Surely big-Laddy-Lasan wouldn't end up look dumb and that's why he's been ducking that debate for years?!
21:00 when does the debate start?
Lmao did anyone else notice Destiny was typing hardcore giving Train advice?
Bro is speculating off of nothing
i having got to that part but he already typing since the start.
The main thing that was obvious that destiny might’ve sent to train was to call hasan out about him saying he react streamed “from the start”
@51:02 So I don't know my lore on this, so feel free to correct me, but has Hasan called out people by name or does Train just stuffer from MCS and assume all talks of "gambling bad" refer to himself?
Does he "feel" called out or is he by name called out?
if you have a huge audience and do something others perceive as bad, why tf shouldn't you be name called???? he's being a sensitive 😺. does he think people are okay with gambling, as long he (Train) doesn't get to do it and is canceled. People have their opinions, what a shocker.
31:56 🤣🤣🤣
Jesus, ya gamble one time and now every purchase is with Gambling money 😂
Hasan got that angry middle aged wife logic