It is possible to reconcile quarians and geth. You must first do a side quest for Legion in Geth Consensus. What happened in your playthrough is really sad, but it is a testament to fact that you are really playing this game blind. I also had this outcome first time i played ME 3 and it was a real shock.
@@yigiterten I was focused on main story and avoided things that were of no interest to me. Did not think that mission which was discribed as destruction of geth fighter base would be important, so I simply proceded to main quest. I got Tali death as a result. Well... that was sad ofc, but shit happens. I saw some people in the comments that are mad and disrespectful. They forget ME 3 is just a video game. It is meant to give you fun in the end, if some characters dies, it doesn't mather too much. They are fictional.
@@TheGocol Well, Mass Effect is my favorite game series so I can't accept renegade choices and unscripted things lol. Also, I'm trying to do with mission acquiring order so I've never skipped important missions.
5:10: Under the right conditions with enough Paragon or Renegade, you can. I'm afraid you do not have that option. 45:30: Legion had to upload himself to the geth mainframe. He technically no longer exists as a single entity, but is now part of all geth you will encounter in future. 49:40: The geth and quarian fleets were in heavy combat. The geth couldn't disengage, so they made a judgement-call to attack out of desperation. They'd have lost too many ships and therefor units if they had tried to escape. In the last conversation with Tali, when Legion was at 40%, if you have had enough Renegade or Paragon points, a proper option to talk the Quarians down would've been present and you could've saved both. And with both I mean both the species. Legion was always meant to cease there, but Tali could've survived. I'm sorry for that blow
Tali @ 46:43 it happened in my very first playthrough, I was shocked, then I found out that there are other possibilities and after the end of ME 3 I started the whole trilogy again and made other decisions, then Tali survived
Oof. I recommend comfy jamas, a funny movie, and ice cream while lounging under a fuzzy blanket on the sofa with your kitty 😊 The game's not real, but the emotions sure can be. ... Then again, you probably recorded this a while ago and are totally over the whole thing, in which case eh, Hey, great episode! 🥴
Why didn’t you just shut down the game when you accidentally clicked on the reaper base? Wouldn’t that just take you back to the post mission dialogue of Koris’ rescue mission?
thanks a lot for the playthrough, it's sad about Tali @ 46:43 ... but it's good to see a playthrough that doesn't show the usual mainstream decisions for the 1000th time ✨
Oh no! I fully understand you having to take a break there. I've only had Tali die once (during a playthrough when I was deliberately making every decision I wouldn't normally make). It hit me so hard, I had to replay the whole of the battle against the Reaper again. I just couldn't bear to continue without Tali! To save Tali, the quarians AND the geth, I think you have to do Legion's mission to the geth airbase, save Koris (which you did), AND have a fairly high paragon or renegade score. (There may be extra conditions, I'm not sure.) If you do all that, you get extra dialogue options at the end, which allow you to persuade Gerrel to call off his attack. Legion will still die (that's scripted), but Tali survives and you gain the support of both the quarian and geth fleets. Anyway, stiff upper lip and soldier on, my friend; war is Hell!
I'm late to the party but still saying hi! And this was sad to watch. Hugs 💔💔 And some people need to chill with the comments... And as for the dillema in the game it's worth to mention two things: Quarians are communal society, which values unity over personal freedom. Quarians were clearly split on this conflict but those who wanted peace were outvoted and in that case, they had to follow. Geth on the other hand are synthetics. They don't follow emotions but calculations. They have a free will and Legion shows that they are also able of displaying empathy but they can conclude that something we see as "morally wrong" is the best solution. They attacked Quarians, because they saw this as "the best solution" to their problem. I don't know if this explains anything but I felt like i need to share this thought. Small trivia about the mission with AA guns: pretty much every companion disables them in similar way but not James. When you pick James and tell him to disable the guns, he will first question is technical abilities and then will simply smash the console.
The worst possible outcome. I never thought I would have to experience it at some point. I'm really sorry to see what happens when you don't have enough Paragon or Renegade points to turn things around.
Jesus, some of these comments 🙄 You‘re playing the game by yourself, which is how it‘s meant to be played. I hate these „optimal“ playthroughs where streamers ask viewers for advice. I had the same result in my first playthrough, it‘s much more dramatic and impactful than the „sunshine and rainbows“ outcome. You got this, rock on 💪
I've been watching ME playthroughs for a while and every time I'm curious if they will see this seemingly not commonly seen bit of content. Now that it has finally happened, I'm not sure how to feel.
I have not seen this resolution of the Geth-Quarian dilemma before. I must have seen the other two possible outcomes. But not this one. Both Tali and Legion. That was…. Well it just leaves one in apathy really. Even by Mass Effect standards that was a deeply demoralising, depressing outcome.
This happened on my first playthrough also playing blind. I noticed lots of people did the same choice when they are playing blind, simply because they think the same that Geth are not the wrong in this and Quarian are a jerk for how they treat the Geth.
😭 I completely understand you being on the side of the geth. Most players want the geth to have a place in the galaxy and the quarians have a massive blindspot of their own making. It's a damned shame that the only reason you couldn't make peace was because you didn't do the geth fighter base mission. It's got such great lore in it too. Ah well, next playthrough. When it comes down to it, I love Tali more than I love Legion, so once I knew Tali would commit suicide there is no playthrough where I let the quarians die. This is the one mission where I will do whatever it takes to get the best outcome, renegade or paragon, including re-loading form an earlier save.
At least she admitted that it was a mistake and that she actually wanted to do geth fighter squadrons I’ve only seen something similar happen once before and she didn’t even say that it was an accident that she started the final assault and even told Tali in the beginning to not die only to have her die anyways
I understand doing this game your own way but damn that was heartbreaking. I never got this outcome i always had the paragon or renegade points to keep this from happening. Its sad because like many youtubers they will never replay this game so they are stuck with this sad outcome.
Usually I save the Geth. If I replay the series I go from the second game and try to save everyone. For me at least I don't like "optimizing" an rpg like this.
It is possible to reconcile quarians and geth. You must first do a side quest for Legion in Geth Consensus. What happened in your playthrough is really sad, but it is a testament to fact that you are really playing this game blind. I also had this outcome first time i played ME 3 and it was a real shock.
I've never experienced it at first playthrough. Actually I've never experienced bad things - except scripted ones.
@@yigiterten I was focused on main story and avoided things that were of no interest to me. Did not think that mission which was discribed as destruction of geth fighter base would be important, so I simply proceded to main quest. I got Tali death as a result. Well... that was sad ofc, but shit happens. I saw some people in the comments that are mad and disrespectful. They forget ME 3 is just a video game. It is meant to give you fun in the end, if some characters dies, it doesn't mather too much. They are fictional.
@@TheGocol Well, Mass Effect is my favorite game series so I can't accept renegade choices and unscripted things lol.
Also, I'm trying to do with mission acquiring order so I've never skipped important missions.
yeah..thank you! it was unbelievable,I was so sure I would be able to reconcile them...💔
@@LucilleGirlGamer hi
5:10: Under the right conditions with enough Paragon or Renegade, you can. I'm afraid you do not have that option.
45:30: Legion had to upload himself to the geth mainframe. He technically no longer exists as a single entity, but is now part of all geth you will encounter in future.
49:40: The geth and quarian fleets were in heavy combat. The geth couldn't disengage, so they made a judgement-call to attack out of desperation. They'd have lost too many ships and therefor units if they had tried to escape. In the last conversation with Tali, when Legion was at 40%, if you have had enough Renegade or Paragon points, a proper option to talk the Quarians down would've been present and you could've saved both. And with both I mean both the species. Legion was always meant to cease there, but Tali could've survived.
I'm sorry for that blow
ooooh yeah I get it...💔 I should hve done this quest way later..
This is the first time I've seen this happen organically.
Damn.
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its the worst!!💔
Tali @ 46:43 it happened in my very first playthrough, I was shocked, then I found out that there are other possibilities and after the end of ME 3 I started the whole trilogy again and made other decisions, then Tali survived
It is a testament to human empathy that we can become so attached to fictional characters as to feel legit sadness at their loss.
Oof. I recommend comfy jamas, a funny movie, and ice cream while lounging under a fuzzy blanket on the sofa with your kitty 😊 The game's not real, but the emotions sure can be. ... Then again, you probably recorded this a while ago and are totally over the whole thing, in which case eh, Hey, great episode! 🥴
thank you!!
yeah it STILL feels so bad!💔💔
Why didn’t you just shut down the game when you accidentally clicked on the reaper base? Wouldn’t that just take you back to the post mission dialogue of Koris’ rescue mission?
thanks a lot for the playthrough, it's sad about Tali @ 46:43 ... but it's good to see a playthrough that doesn't show the usual mainstream decisions for the 1000th time ✨
Ouch.
Oh no! Tali! 😭
What a sad ending for one of the best quest in the whole trilogy. At least, it's a good reason to replay the game once again😉
yeah!!💔💔
and true!
Oh no! I fully understand you having to take a break there. I've only had Tali die once (during a playthrough when I was deliberately making every decision I wouldn't normally make). It hit me so hard, I had to replay the whole of the battle against the Reaper again. I just couldn't bear to continue without Tali!
To save Tali, the quarians AND the geth, I think you have to do Legion's mission to the geth airbase, save Koris (which you did), AND have a fairly high paragon or renegade score. (There may be extra conditions, I'm not sure.) If you do all that, you get extra dialogue options at the end, which allow you to persuade Gerrel to call off his attack. Legion will still die (that's scripted), but Tali survives and you gain the support of both the quarian and geth fleets. Anyway, stiff upper lip and soldier on, my friend; war is Hell!
I was very close to doing that haha,just delete the whole ep and do something else instead..but it would be wrong ughh💔
thank you!🤍
I'm late to the party but still saying hi! And this was sad to watch. Hugs 💔💔
And some people need to chill with the comments...
And as for the dillema in the game it's worth to mention two things: Quarians are communal society, which values unity over personal freedom. Quarians were clearly split on this conflict but those who wanted peace were outvoted and in that case, they had to follow. Geth on the other hand are synthetics. They don't follow emotions but calculations. They have a free will and Legion shows that they are also able of displaying empathy but they can conclude that something we see as "morally wrong" is the best solution. They attacked Quarians, because they saw this as "the best solution" to their problem.
I don't know if this explains anything but I felt like i need to share this thought.
Small trivia about the mission with AA guns: pretty much every companion disables them in similar way but not James. When you pick James and tell him to disable the guns, he will first question is technical abilities and then will simply smash the console.
thanks!💔💔
yeah it makes sense thanks!😃
ahahaha freaking james😂
The worst possible outcome.
I never thought I would have to experience it at some point. I'm really sorry to see what happens when you don't have enough Paragon or Renegade points to turn things around.
The fact that they put that Paragon Interrupt in to tray to save Tali and it doesn't work makes it even more tragic.
Jesus, some of these comments 🙄 You‘re playing the game by yourself, which is how it‘s meant to be played. I hate these „optimal“ playthroughs where streamers ask viewers for advice. I had the same result in my first playthrough, it‘s much more dramatic and impactful than the „sunshine and rainbows“ outcome. You got this, rock on 💪
hii! thank youu!🤍🤍
Saw this coming a mile away. Gonna be a sad ride.
you got the saddest outcome for the geth war, which is always sad
And the worst outcome as it’s 2 birds with one stone
Because she was an idiot and didn't do the priority mission last. This is the second idiot I've seen do this.
@ at least she admitted that she didn’t mean to start the priority mission first unlike the other idiot
@ but at least she admitted that she didn’t mean to start the priority mission first unlike the other one
Oh no 😭
I've been watching ME playthroughs for a while and every time I'm curious if they will see this seemingly not commonly seen bit of content. Now that it has finally happened, I'm not sure how to feel.
ahhhh I'm still on the 1st can't watch.... did ya 100% cp2077 already? xD
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I have not seen this resolution of the Geth-Quarian dilemma before. I must have seen the other two possible outcomes. But not this one. Both Tali and Legion. That was…. Well it just leaves one in apathy really. Even by Mass Effect standards that was a deeply demoralising, depressing outcome.
truly horrific..ugh💔💔💔
This happened on my first playthrough also playing blind. I noticed lots of people did the same choice when they are playing blind, simply because they think the same that Geth are not the wrong in this and Quarian are a jerk for how they treat the Geth.
OMG.
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Oh dear...
Oh yes...💔
LMFAO RIP QUARIANS! LOOOL RIP TALI
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I completely understand you being on the side of the geth. Most players want the geth to have a place in the galaxy and the quarians have a massive blindspot of their own making.
It's a damned shame that the only reason you couldn't make peace was because you didn't do the geth fighter base mission. It's got such great lore in it too. Ah well, next playthrough. When it comes down to it, I love Tali more than I love Legion, so once I knew Tali would commit suicide there is no playthrough where I let the quarians die. This is the one mission where I will do whatever it takes to get the best outcome, renegade or paragon, including re-loading form an earlier save.
yeahh,thank you!🤍
Tali Killer. Poor choices led to that as you should have been able to save both groups. Maybe do things different in another playthrough.
At least she admitted that it was a mistake and that she actually wanted to do geth fighter squadrons I’ve only seen something similar happen once before and she didn’t even say that it was an accident that she started the final assault and even told Tali in the beginning to not die only to have her die anyways
@axelnilsson5124 then why didn't she just reload if it was a mistake?? Oh right, because she's an idiot.
I understand doing this game your own way but damn that was heartbreaking. I never got this outcome i always had the paragon or renegade points to keep this from happening. Its sad because like many youtubers they will never replay this game so they are stuck with this sad outcome.
You f*ed up... If you played well enough you should have alternative answers that might save the Quarians and the Geths as well
Usually I save the Geth. If I replay the series I go from the second game and try to save everyone. For me at least I don't like "optimizing" an rpg like this.
The only people who save the geth are those who didn't pay attention
wow 💀 rip quarians.
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