Back when I was learning to play, and listening to Neil Peart, I remember reading the drummer from the Moody Blues say something which sounded crazy to me: he said if you can't get 12 sounds out of a cymbal, you're a bad drummer. Yeah, I blew him off... It took another two decades to recognize that while he might have been exaggerating back then, he wasn't wrong either. You can be extremely creative and musical with an extremely limited kit, and drummers like Guiliana prove it every time they're seen in clips like this. Thanks for publishing it...
Drumaier J but everything he just played was comprised of single and double strokes which are a rudiment. Singles and doubles are the binary code of drumming. There is literally nothing you can do on the drum set that can't be broken down to some type of rudiment. Oh and him playing two limbs in unison or at the same time is just a closed or flat flam. Boom another rudiment! 👍🏻
The rhytm alphabet is nothing new. In fact, teachers have been using it for years and years. Benny and Mark just have their own take on it. Its the same thing just packaged up and presented differently. It is similar to that of scales and other basic elements. There is always someone who came up with it first. The difference is in the presentation and the application, which continues to improve every time someone re-invents it.
the understanding of theses patterns is key but....playing them the way he does is....nuts ! it's not musical at all....it's like to exercise saying a sentence in every way possible as a way to learn how to speak a language. it's impressive but absurd.
Issam Chabaa actually, it's more like improving your skill in a language you have a pre-existing knowledge of by re-arranging a sentence in every possible way. Which works... I guess.
The only way of exercising coordination and independance is exactly that, making your body feel comfortable with every combination of hits so it can play it without thinking. Every professional teacher I have had in the past teached me that way, and it works marvelous. It takes time and effort? yes, as everything worth it.
He's not proposing this as music, like he said- "no applause for practicing". It's an exercise to make sure you have every possibility at your fingertips, so that you aren't constrained by your abilities when you need to make some actual music.
For those saying this isn't music, I'm assuming you haven't studied on an instrument before. There are basic things that you need to learn to apply them on a song later, but that doesn't mean those things are gonna be 100% musical. A beat is not musical by itself, you need to make it musical on a context; the groove is on the musician, not on the beat. And believe me, this guy really has a lot of groove even when playing beats you may consider "not musical". Maybe you believe that studying is about playing to songs for two hours or something, but it's not like that.
Why is this guy considered significant? I don't get it. I get bored within seconds. Where's the progress to the craft? Is drumming stuck in a hole again? this sucks.
Back when I was learning to play, and listening to Neil Peart, I remember reading the drummer from the Moody Blues say something which sounded crazy to me: he said if you can't get 12 sounds out of a cymbal, you're a bad drummer.
Yeah, I blew him off...
It took another two decades to recognize that while he might have been exaggerating back then, he wasn't wrong either. You can be extremely creative and musical with an extremely limited kit, and drummers like Guiliana prove it every time they're seen in clips like this. Thanks for publishing it...
Thank you for the upload, great concepts. Mark's playing is something else.
Mark Guiliana - Legend
Really interesting way to think about practicing and a rhythm vocabulary.
no applause for practising....
Wonderful, played on a beautifully tuned snare drum.
this guy is a genius.
el bicho feo he is a drummer
@@badfozziebear446 yep, drummer genius
Nice! Simple concept opening great opportunities!
Killer exercise
Loving the concept. I work on gridding 16th notes on feet and hands with groupings of 1 and 2 16th notes but havent considered layering of the 3.
I program my metronome 12/4 and have clicks every triplet.
Such innovative concepts!
Good one here! Reminds me of locked in a basement groove a bit
What a hero
THIS WAS PLEASENT
greaaat lesson!!!
Nice!
George Marsh concepts are always inspiring, no natter the speaker
I saw this video years back, I am now understanding that this is Language of drumming..
Damn
like it!!
this concepts and exercises right here are a lot more important for drummers than the fucking and overrated rudiments.
Drumaier J but everything he just played was comprised of single and double strokes which are a rudiment. Singles and doubles are the binary code of drumming. There is literally nothing you can do on the drum set that can't be broken down to some type of rudiment.
Oh and him playing two limbs in unison or at the same time is just a closed or flat flam. Boom another rudiment! 👍🏻
Locked in a Basement started here?
I was literally thinking the exact same thing!! There was a point where I could almost hear the type writer
oh well by fleetwood mac was going through my mind when he started the exercises. idk y?
'That's not music yet' - oh but it is.
It's Benny Greb's Rhythmic Alphabet, nothing new. I'm wondering if he's aware of it
Does it have to be new? Do teachers always teach new material?
The rhytm alphabet is nothing new. In fact, teachers have been using it for years and years. Benny and Mark just have their own take on it. Its the same thing just packaged up and presented differently. It is similar to that of scales and other basic elements. There is always someone who came up with it first. The difference is in the presentation and the application, which continues to improve every time someone re-invents it.
Gary Chaffee type material
It's music, nobody invented it!!
Does it have to be new?
the understanding of theses patterns is key but....playing them the way he does is....nuts ! it's not musical at all....it's like to exercise saying a sentence in every way possible as a way to learn how to speak a language. it's impressive but absurd.
Issam Chabaa actually, it's more like improving your skill in a language you have a pre-existing knowledge of by re-arranging a sentence in every possible way. Which works... I guess.
Issam Chabaa I agree. Horrible, not musical; this guy has never listened to music before...nice drum machine though..
The only way of exercising coordination and independance is exactly that, making your body feel comfortable with every combination of hits so it can play it without thinking.
Every professional teacher I have had in the past teached me that way, and it works marvelous. It takes time and effort? yes, as everything worth it.
He's not proposing this as music, like he said- "no applause for practicing". It's an exercise to make sure you have every possibility at your fingertips, so that you aren't constrained by your abilities when you need to make some actual music.
For those saying this isn't music, I'm assuming you haven't studied on an instrument before. There are basic things that you need to learn to apply them on a song later, but that doesn't mean those things are gonna be 100% musical. A beat is not musical by itself, you need to make it musical on a context; the groove is on the musician, not on the beat. And believe me, this guy really has a lot of groove even when playing beats you may consider "not musical".
Maybe you believe that studying is about playing to songs for two hours or something, but it's not like that.
Why is this guy considered significant? I don't get it. I get bored within seconds. Where's the progress to the craft? Is drumming stuck in a hole again? this sucks.
Nah, you suck.
Stop listening to Manowar man