EDIT: If you guys have any other recommendations concerning reactions of Mass Effect content that are not spoilers for Mass Effect 3, please let me know! I could do another one in the upcoming weeks if you enjoyed this one 😊 I have seen a The Office one going around (if Michael Scott was in Mass Effect) which sounds AMAZING but I'm scared if there are spoilers or not 🤣 Thank you so much for everyone's patience regarding Mass Effect 3! The playthrough is going well and I'm loving it Hope this video can make you smile a little while we wait for the uploads! Don't forget to check out xLetalis channel and the video here th-cam.com/video/eVC92PYBFSs/w-d-xo.html Chapters 0:00 intro 2:22 reaction starts 22:10 thoughts & outro
Like a BioWare dev was saying, if you keep describing the final mission as a "suicide mission", then you need at least one ending where everybody dies, lol. The three reasons a character could die was A) the ship wasn't upgraded B) they were assigned a role they couldn't fill or C) they were not loyal. You probably figured out that when a character seemingly died for no obvious reason, C was the culprit. Btw, you need at least one playthrough where Shep survived if you want to port you game into ME3 P.S.: I hope your Mass Effect 3 is going well. Question: is it safe to assume that whenever you decide to post your playthrough, you will have completed your Baldur's Gate playthrough videos? Or could both playthrough overlap? I'm trying to plan my next ME3 playthrough, which, ideally, would precede yours by a bit.
The one thing that comes to my mind is unique dialogue regarding Legion, especially Talis recruitment and loyalty missions. Since Legion only becomes available after the IFF mission and you already tried to finish everything else before that mission (just like 99% of all mass effect players), you can't take him to anything relevant. All squadmates in ME2 have unique dialogues for all story missions since those were done before the decision was made to lock some behind specific missions and waypoints in the story, like Horizon or the IFF mission. But taking Legion on Tali specific missions is especially interesting because of the whole Geth/Quarian history. I checked some possible videos to react to for spoilers and ngl, it was pretty hard to find spoiler free videos but these two are. th-cam.com/video/B5zquMPCV-0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/QDemlIaPv18/w-d-xo.html
If you play the trilogy again, be a renegade Shepard. Renegade is insanely funny to play. Also, each choosing of a charisma (paragon / renegade) dialog option (the upper / lower one) gives you charisma experience points, even if the option is not marked blue / red. The blue / red marked options give *a lot* of charisma experience points. Each charisma (paragon / renegade) dialog option requires a certain amount of charisma experience in that area plus a certain amount of charisma talent points. That means, even with low charisma talent points one can choose the charisma option if you have a lot of charisma experience and vice versa. Maxing out both the charisma experience and the charisma talent points is the fastest way to open all dialog options.
This ending gets so much worse when you consider that Joker already had tremendous survivor's guilt for "leaving" Shepard behind to die on the original Normandy. And then Cerberus brought them back only for it to happen again.
Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed are the strongest companions, kill them off and everyone staying behind dies. If the 2 you bring with you aren’t loyal they die too, and not upgrading the ship kills 3 instantly. I just noticed this person never even activated Legion 😅
I tried to get this ending a few years ago. Zaeed somehow made it out on his own, ruining the attempt, but I gained a fair bit of respect for him that day.
Yeah. Zaeed is actually strong enough, even when disloyal, to straight up hold the line by himself, making this ending almost, or straight up impossible to get in the LE
I remember you saw one of those loading screen tips, something like "You can import your Shep into ME3.. if they survive" and you went "IS THAT FORESHADOWING?" - YEP. Yep hahaha
The reason Zaeed doesn't make a good fireteam leader is if you listen to a lot of his stories on the Normandy, any time he's part of a team he's always the sole survivor, most of the group efforts he's led got his team killed.
16:03 "WHY?" Go back to the squad select screen at 13:53, and look at the characters' feet. No glowing ring = none of the loyalty missions were done. For some deaths, loyalty doesn't matter (e.g. if you don't upgrade the armor, Jack dies whether or not she's loyal). But for others, loyalty is considered. The two teammates you bring with you in the final fight will survive if loyal, or die if not. Jacob and Miranda weren't loyal, so ... ils sont morts.
If I remember correctly (I did my play through like 12 years ago), if you don't go immediately through the relay when the team was abducted, they are already dead (except maybe 1 member) when you find them on the Collector Base. I consider that an ever worse scenario, because that way you can't even possibly save them.
Not all of them: if you complete 1-3 missions, that will result half of your crew killed, while as 3 or more missions will kill them all except Dr. Chackwas.
You probably saw after editing, but that final squad pick Legion is missing so he either sold them or never reactivated them. I love one of the top comments in that video about having Jacob as the Biotic Specialist struggling with Samara right there supporting... with a gun 🤣. There's a flowchart of how survival is calculated and of course its mostly based on loyalty and ship upgrades... But there's one that's kinda interesting for the final secondary team where you HAVE to leave at least 2 of the "heavy hitters" (Garrus, Grunt, Zaeed) or either one or multiple teammates could die with I believe Mordin, Tali, and Jack being most likely to die.
Yup, at that fiinal portion the ones who are left behind have a specific death priority list, Mordin being the one with the highest priority, followed by Jack, Tali and Kasumi (can't remember if it's in that order for that "weak" tier), then goes to Miranda, Thane, Jacob, Legion and Samara (again, can't remember if the order of that "middle" tier is correct besides Miranda being the highest priority after those on the "weak" tier) and finally the heavy hitters who are pretty much guaranteed to survive even when disloyal (unless you use mods like Risky Suicide mission where you have to throw out of the window most of the Suicide Mission logic and anything can happen, of course, the crew escort if you don't send a squadmate it will still go as usual with them being history).
While I knew that Garrus, Jacob, Mordin and Thane won’t be able to hack the door in time I didn’t know that if you don’t choose Jacob, Miranda or Garrus as Fire team leaders even Tali, Kasumi and Legion would die regardless if they’re loyal and after seeing that Legion wasn’t even part of the squad it made me wonder why it matters who’s the fire team leader
I purposefully went for this ending once just to see what happens. Then the Thane death happened. I literally thought a fridge fell on him and I couldn't help but laugh because I had a really stupid sense of humour and I was drunk.
Do you understand what level of technical prowess is necessary to make a game where everything can (really) change according to your choices to the point that even the protagonist can die? The people at Bioware are amazing.
Ahhh yes, depresso espresso: the movie. Good times lmao. I don't have the heart to do a playthrough this bad lol. Still surprised you got through yours without deaths. You made all of us proud. See ya in the next vid!
There was an early ME3 concept with Shepard dying in me2 being importable. You would have played as an entirely new character who wasn't Shepard. It obviously didn't make it that far into production.
Interestingly enough, 06:03 Jack's death is hard coded: if you don't upgrade, she'll die no matter what. Next two crew mates are drawn at random with priority being with those that aren't loyal (Mordin, Miranda and Jacob are only ones that cannot die, since they're on the upper levels of the ship).
Not quite random. For the shields check and the guns check, there is a list of crew that could die at each one (based somewhat on where they might be during the fight) and they get crossed off in order. You can save particular crewmates from the list by bringing them with you while fighting the Occulus in the cargo hold. They could also not be onboard the Normandy by not waking Grunt or Legion, or not recruiting either of the DLC characters or the second set of dossier characters (which is why the lists are longer than just 3), but obviously they're still technically "dead" for that run. Loyal crewmates on the list are NOT safe; if you don't upgrade the ship, someone WILL die at these checkpoints even if you've secured the Loyalty of EVERYONE.
First off, big respect to you for crediting the creator of the original video! It's so awkward watching Tali cover Garrus while he closes the door, Jacob cast the biotic field when Samara is standing right there, Grunt getting carried away and of course Shepard tumbling to their doom. 😆There's a video by Big Dan Gaming that addresses what happens in ME3 if this ending is achieved. The prologue to ME3 is briefly featured in it however, so potential spoiler alert. edit: found the link! Big Dan is a great channel and his Mass Effect vids are top notch! th-cam.com/video/9PasjiLkkyA/w-d-xo.html Great video, and can't wait for ME3!
0:00 - The Crew How many non-squad crew members can survive depends on how many missions Shepard went on before going for the Omega 4 Relay. If Shepard went straight away or did Legion's loyalty mission at most, everyone will survive. If Shepard went on up to 3 missions, half of the crew will already have been melted as Shepard arrives. I'm not sure if Kelly survives here but at least Gabby will die. If Shepard went on 4 or more missions everyone is dead except for Chakwas. If Kelly does not survive she will be the one Shepard will see melt instead of Lilith (Lilith was the one with Kaidan/Ashley on Horizon when you got there). 2:22 - The Prologue The only critical upgrades you need are Armor, Shields and Cannon. Non-upgraded armor always results in Jack dying. Non-upgraded shields and cannon will always result in a squaddie you did not bring with you to the Oculus fight to die. 6:47 - The Vent The correct options of the specialist going into the shaft are Tali, Legion and Kasumi. They also have to be loyal. If they're not or you picked anyone else, even if loyal, they will die via rocket to the face. Squad leader can be Miranda, Jacob or Garrus, and they too will have to be loyal. If they're not or you picked anyone else, even if loyal, the one you sent to the vent will die. In this case the vent specialist could be a loyal and romanced Tali, she will still die. 10:50 - The Bubble Loyal Miranda, Jack or Samara as the biotic specialist will result in no casualties, any other choice will result in a squadmate dying. Jacob and Garrus, if loyal, will survive as the diversion team leader. Miranda is a special case here as she doesn't even need to be loyal to survive. Anyone else will die. Sending anyone to escort the people you rescued will result in the people surviving. If the escort is loyal they too will survive. If not, they will sacrifice theirself to ensure the rest make it to the Normandy. As you saw, sending no one means they all die and Doctor Chocolates melts. 13:52 - The Finale The squadmates you bring with you to the final fight will only survive if they're loyal. How many survive holding the line is determined by how many there are left and what their hidden "defense score" is. "Tanks" like Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed have higher scores while physically weaker ones like Mordin and Tali have lower scores. Being loyal increases a character's score. If the defense score sum is too low, people start dying starting from the lowest score (it's really easy to lose Mordin and/or Tali here, especially if you bring Garrus and Grunt to the final fight). If paranoid, you can bring low score characters with you to the final fight as then their survival hinges solely on loyalty. 17:35 - The Reckoning If fewer than 2 squadmates survived to this point the mission is considered failed and Shepard will die, leaving Joker to save the galaxy in ME3. But not really, as this is a CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE with a dedicated cutscene; you will not be able to port this save into ME3 successfully. I love the Suicide Mission as you need to know what your people's strengths are. Too many people overrely on Garrus by sending him to the vent, but hacking isn't really his forte even though he has Overload. Same goes for Jacob but he is usually sent out of spite. "Tech Expert" also leads many to pick Mordin but he is more of a biologist and a doctor than a hacker. Few people pick wrong for the biotic specialist, but to recap, your options are: a woman genetically engineered to have top biotic abilities and training among humans, another woman whose biotics were horrendously amped with drugs and torture, a matron stage asari with virtually unmatched biotics, a security guard with basic biotics and an assassin with small scale precision biotics. Jacob and Thane don't really hold a candle to the ladies here.
That's how Suicide Mission works *SPOILERS ALERT*: 1) ship upgrades check: armor, barriers and main gun. Didn't bother to buy any of this? then say goodbye to them: Jack (armor check), Kasumi/Legion/Tali (kinetic barriers check), Thane/Garrus/Zaeed/Grunt (thanix cannon check). List is not full, it's just how it works. For example, if you take Kasumi and Thane with you to deal with Oculus in the cargo hold, Kasumi is not present in engineering, so Legion is next to die; Thane is not at the elevator, so Garrus is going to perish. 2) vents: tech expert dies if: he/she's not good enough or disloyal. Moreover, commander of 2nd squad must be competent AND loyal. Techs: Legion, Kasumi, Tali. Commanders: Garrus, Miranda, Jacob. 3) barrier walking: only pure biotic that is also loyal can handle this part. If not, one of crewmate from bubble dies. Obviously, pick Jack or Samara to maintain the barrier. 4) escort: any loyal fighter will do, but it is ideal to send someone relatively weak, someone who you won't need: Mordin, Tali, Kasumi or Jack. 5) diversion team leader: pick Garrus or Jacob or Miranda, either will do the job if loyal. Zaeed has never been a leader, he's not good enough to command. 6) hold the door part: just leave all meat shields and best fighters behind, pick someone witty or sneaky with you: Jack+Samara, Mordin+Miranda, Thane+Tali, etc. Just don't pick Garrus, Grunt or Zaeed to go with you. Otherwise, rearguard will not hold. 7) final boss battle: your mates will not survive the crash if disloyal, this is the only requirement. 8) escape: Shepard won't make it if less then two squadmates survived the mission so far. ________ That's all. Hope it helps to get the better understanding of the worst ending.
The order in which people die and the person who dies in each situation can change a bit, even on the Normandy, depending on who is loyal and who isn't (I think nobody was in this case), depending on your choices, and depending on who you're bringing with you to fight the orb on the Normandy and later in the Collector base, as well. Example: if this Shepard had brought Jack and Kasumi, or Jack and Thane, to fight the orb thing, maybe Miranda and Tali would have died instead. PS: also, I'm not sure why he didn't have Legion in this run, but it wouldn't have made any difference. Best case scenario, he would have died in the final defence, with Tali, Samara and Mordin.
Funny thing about that part when picking the 2nd team leader 1, if you somehow have both Jack and Garrus die during the aproach (something that without mods I dunno if ii's possible when it comes to Garrus), Jacob will tell Miranda that most of the squad don't trust them for the lead position (ironic... don't you think?).
Yay! Thanks for the upload! Even though I’ve played this game several times since 2010 I’ve actually never seen this (or if I have it’s been so long that I’ve forgotten lol). This was a really nice appetizer for what’s next. 👍👍
Many characters can die in many different ways, for example; if Jack here dies because you didn't upgrade the shields I believe, but she can also die during the seeker swarm section if you don't upgrade her implants to L5, and also die in many other locations if she is put in the wrong roles, or if she isn't loyal. It is a very complicated process.
13:26 Does not matter, who you send. Every team member will protect them and will be saved. Best choose is Mordin, because he will survive and he is weakest of team members, so it will improve further progress.
I don't think the crewmember who dies is set specifically. A different playthrough with the same circumstances might lead to other deaths. I say this because I've seen it first hand when Garrus died when I didn't complete Zaeed's loyalty mission, but also because in this sequence Kasumi dies but she's a DLC character so she can't be designated as THE person who dies in the base game.
Also Thane is technically optional as the second set of dossier missions isn’t mandatory to do as the 5 mission timer between horizon and the collector ship is still ticking but the only other squadmate I know who gets impaled by not doing Garrus’ thanix cannon upgrade is Garrus himself
This is why I said I was happy and sad you were warned about the point of no return. Because when Garrus got skewered by a metal bar and Thane got incinerated by the drive core I was ready to reset my playthrough.
Imo if I had to have Garrus die in this mission it would be when I make him a leader in the 2nd wave (if you don’t do his loyalty mission) because he will get shot and before he dies he has a heart to heart with Shepard and it hits so hard. “Sorry Shepard, won’t be with you at the end…snipe one for me will ya.” But no one will kill Garrus willingly…right?
It took a while to realize this was even possible. We all did everything we could to keep everyone alive, so when we figured out that we could end ME2 with everyone but Joker dying, it hurt. Garrus, Tali and Grunt had me crying like a baby.
I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm soooo looking forward to your ME3 play through. More so now that I've just finished replaying the trilogy. And Bro Shep feels so alien to me.
Great choices - I mean to get everybody killed 😁. At the end of the seeker swarms section it was important that both Zaeed & Grunt die. This way the team left to cover the door in next section does NOT have any of the strong fighter!
Loved you reaction - especially on some of those renegate lines ! For yourself you should definitely do a renegate bro Shep. You will get new voices & overall feel and is totally easy to be routhless without being a jerk to your crew 😊
Also, in this ending, TIM watches ships going to the station to... pick it up. So all along he had other ships that could jump Omega4-Relay, but sent Shepard on suicide mission, to deal with ground forces? Ok, why not send ships there so that they could jump on command and wait outside the base for Shepard to finish, or board Normandy without a crew? ANd how they would jump there in a first place, regardless of Shepard's mission goes, if they would need not just upgrades, but great pilot to navigate through all that mess straight after jump? So many questions.
Worst possible endings with the best possible content creator! Was kinda funny how bad the choices were. 😂 "Hacking th door? Send the Hamster! Diversion? Do we have fish? All dead? Ok, send Kelly! The rest is with me!" *jumps out the ship. Breaks both ankles* Hope you have a nice weekend, Whimsy!
А представьте, что если бы разработчики продумали этот момент и в третьей части пришлось бы играть за Джокера? И игра была бы совершенно иной... Думаю, за такой поворот событий команду BioWare на руках носили бы))
This is the true worst ending, if you want an import that you can take to me3 (I did it yrs ago to see how bad I could make it) you take morinth and thane with you to the final fight, have them loyal so they survive, then you survive too and you have an import to take into me3 and with morinth and thane and you as only survivors, well no spoilers as idk how far you are in me3 but you can make that import and playthrough in me3 really bad, especially with virmire survivor lol. It was very hard to do as it's hard to deliberately make those horrible choices but if you want to see worst possible outcome take thane and morinth on last fight in me2 with both loyal so they and you survive and you have an import for me3.
Yeap, if all and Shepard dies, you finish Mass Effect 2 (asseen) but you cannot import your save to ME3. Really waiting for ME3 uploads of yours =) -Sin
THanks a lot. I dont think that you can play ME3 without Shepard. But... you can loose many folks... and still play ME3. I tried once to lose almost everybody - the consequences for ME3 are very interesting. Definitely worth for another playthrough (I did 7 or 8 overwhole I think). Looking foward to your ME3 videos very much 🙂
You can also lose your crew by being too slow - if you do two more missions after Legion's mission, the crewmen will get processed by the time you get there - that's why everyone warned you that the dead reaper mission starts the endgame
The calculations aren't _that_ complicated. Each role you choose has one person that _will_ succeed and a second that will succeed _if_ they are loyal. Crew I think just need any _loyal_ escort, but I think a couple can do it is not loyal. Ground squad is the most complex in theory, with each squadmate having a combat score - if they total high enough they all live. With the added DLC companions, it's actually hard to have a bad enough ground squad for them to die. The really hard run is no deaths with no loyal squad members, but I've seen it done.
Yeah, bro-Shep messed up, but this one probably deserved it. "They got Thane" Miranda says, while Thane is just impaled, who are they, Miranda, those who in theory can hold the force field? xD On a serious note, I was expecting more missions like this, if not in ME2, but certainly in ME3, with meaningful choices and outcomes, and all that, not just result of previous interactions in ME1-2 and ability to resolve with "blue" or "red" options when some treshold number is passed. If you go more of action-adventure with RPG elements, just handcraft more of this type, because this is awesome.
9:10 & 16:30 This should be illegal Imagine if they actually had a version with Joker as the protagonist of ME3 👀 Although it would've been over pretty quickly tbh 😅
If you do too many missions after the crew is abducted youre not in time to save the crew, instead you get to see Kelly getting liquified. So it could be worse than this still!
I do respect how they program into ME2 if you want to play as a totally incompetent Shepard, you can. Don't know why you would, but it is there! Haha. As for ME3, yeah, it's basically game over. ME3 would start a new game with presumably all the crew alive? I've never done it or really looked into it. Like you can start ME2 as a new game, that was the first one I played. How it interprets the events of ME1 is somewhat dependant on which Shep your playing. Ie, if you play Male, Ashley will be live, if Fem Shep, Kaiden will be etc.
If you don't import or do the comic at the start of ME3, some of the choices you could make are made for you. Several characters that are savable in the previous games are treated as if they are dead or never existed with "placeholder" NPCs filling the roles they otherwise would. SPOILER ALERT FOR MASS EFFECT 3 NEW GAME BELOW Wrex, Mordin, Jack, Jacob (I might be wrong on this one), Grunt, Legion, Samara, Thane, Kasumi, and Zaeed are all treated as dead or never existed if you start a new game in ME3 without a save. Without Legion, it will be impossible to "happy ending" that conflict. Additionally, Maelon's data will have been destroyed in ME2, so it will be impossible to save Eve, and Miranda will be treated as if she was not Loyal, so she will also die at the end of her story.
Just take your time with posting ME3 on YT. Of anyone I saw, basically dozens of host/hostesses on specifically prologue in ME2 at least, you went through an emotional rollercoaster. Here I thought it would be same here, you were shielded from that beginning experience. ME3 is a further learning curve from ME2 to ME3 than ME1 to ME2, specifically increase difficulty makes weaponry weaker, however powers, specifically power combos do pretty well in pace. Also, that all your actions from the previous two games do matter, not exactly how I expect, but hooray for simple algorithms I guess, n/m chit chatting with crew and just a snoop from non-NormandyNPCs is all thrown in a blender; result is you are not expecting if the taste is good, realize it can be much better yep. Most story telling it's very engaging, even emotion is tested further at least. Still ME3 can be better, yet, it's my most fav of the 3 (I love power use). As for this worst ending for ME2, I almost pulled it off, but I play characters from movies/tv shows and pretend they are Shepherd (rping) and damn what I expected as my blueprint did not go 100% (I honestly cannot be a pure renegade Shep, thus rping) and I think I got Cersei to 80% of her personality from GoT. Exact death match in this vid is second part (and just before reaching the base for the third death) within the base and the same two died. Cersei survived ME2 and only 3/12 made it into ME3. That alone is creepy enough; prefer pidder padder music, well at least mix up things on P/R end. And seriously Mr Witcher 3 analyst of dissecting decisions did this vid for ME (xLetalis)? I'll have to check his PT, got enough dissection for MET/MELE from a few others, prefer TW3 from xLetalis and 2 others. Unsure where you are at in ME3, rollercoaster of emotions just got more. Make sure the safety checks are in place and enjoy the ride, no matter awesome or ill, it will be a ride.
The squadmates killed by not upgrading are picked at random - anyone but Miranda and Jacob, really. Default BroShep is a male model (underwear model, I believe).
Probably because BioWare knew that no one would intentionally do this so they just decided “you know, if people would try to experiment and see what happens if they fail the suicide mission let’s give them that ending”
A small glimpse of what could have happened if the community did not warn you about the Reaper IFF mission, the first game is usually terrible if you are not the dedicated explorer kind of gamer.
Oh it wouldn't have changed anything. I would've done everything the same because the game is very obvious with hints that you should not continue, I just wouldn't have done the cosplay on the right day haha
This is actually hilarious because you really need to intentionally make the worst decisions possible for this outcome, and Bioware still wrote the dialogue and made the scenes for it haha
No. I disagree. This is not the worst ending of Mass Effect 2. I have a save with the entire crew dead, Shepard alive but only 2 squadmates made it: Morinth and Thane ... At that point, the save can be imported to ME3 for a very different experience. Or ... you could "romance" Morinth after the mission, and then Shepard dies.
This is a really bad endng, but it's good to know that it has nothing to do with Shepard's alignment, you can achieve a perfect ending by being completely renegade.
well, Idk if this is "good", especially RP-wise, but it just shows and paragon or renegade in 95% is not a choice, but a flavor, which is good or bad depending on what you want from an RPG Personally, paragon/renegade is one of the worst alignment/morality systems in RPGs and, as much as I love ME, and it is a lot, complete fan, it is, in my opinion, of the worst things about ME
@@nickrubin7312 Yep, it's just as you describe it, a personal taste. especially understanding that "renegade" doesn't mean evil per se but doing the right things in a chaotic way. and speaking of personal tastes, that's one of the characteristics that attracts me the most to ME series xD.
Why” ok this ones abstract when you fall the people with u will get a check if their loyal , if their not loyal they just xie in the fall so jacob and mirandas death was ourely lack of loyalty
Fun fact, it took players a while to find out that this was an actual ending in the game cause nobody actually tried to get all their squadmates killed in the game lol. Bioware had to tell the players that this ending existed in the game.
This might be a bit spoiler-ish in case you replay ME2, as I mention some mechanics here. - The deaths in the spaceflight sequence can be different. There is a fixed order in which the characters can die depending for example who you have in your team when fighting the eyes (they are not considered then). Also, Kasumi was a DLC character so might not even have her on board when that happens. - Dr Chakwas and the crew will die if sent back alone, no matter what. If you send anyone with them, they survive. The companion you send with them dies if disloyal. - Garrus was okay after receiving one rocket in the face during his recruitment mission, the second one was too much... - While that player had all their characters disloyal, Zaed would had died there even if he was loyal. You might be okay with losing him there, but he is one of the 3 characters with high defense value who makes a difference for the defense team left behind. (the fact that the mercenary group he founded kicked him out should had been a red flag about how kind of a leader he is. Also, 90% of his stories are about how his team members got offed during his missions...) - Miranda and Jacob died at the end because they were not loyal. That's the only way any of the characters from your final team can die. - Both the Illusive Man and Miranda repeatedly mention how important is that each crewmember should "deal with their personal problems in order to focus on the mission". The loyalty missions do just that, so anyone disloyal would either die or cause someone else's death when appointed to a special task.
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EDIT: If you guys have any other recommendations concerning reactions of Mass Effect content that are not spoilers for Mass Effect 3, please let me know! I could do another one in the upcoming weeks if you enjoyed this one 😊 I have seen a The Office one going around (if Michael Scott was in Mass Effect) which sounds AMAZING but I'm scared if there are spoilers or not 🤣
Thank you so much for everyone's patience regarding Mass Effect 3! The playthrough is going well and I'm loving it
Hope this video can make you smile a little while we wait for the uploads! Don't forget to check out xLetalis channel and the video here th-cam.com/video/eVC92PYBFSs/w-d-xo.html
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0:00 intro
2:22 reaction starts
22:10 thoughts & outro
Definitely DON'T watch Michael Scott or Austin Powers in Mass Effect. Amazing videos, but they have end spoilers for ME3.
Like a BioWare dev was saying, if you keep describing the final mission as a "suicide mission", then you need at least one ending where everybody dies, lol. The three reasons a character could die was A) the ship wasn't upgraded B) they were assigned a role they couldn't fill or C) they were not loyal. You probably figured out that when a character seemingly died for no obvious reason, C was the culprit. Btw, you need at least one playthrough where Shep survived if you want to port you game into ME3
P.S.: I hope your Mass Effect 3 is going well. Question: is it safe to assume that whenever you decide to post your playthrough, you will have completed your Baldur's Gate playthrough videos? Or could both playthrough overlap? I'm trying to plan my next ME3 playthrough, which, ideally, would precede yours by a bit.
The other Mass Effect videos contain spoilers for the whole triology. Better to react to them AFTER you have finished playing everything.
The one thing that comes to my mind is unique dialogue regarding Legion, especially Talis recruitment and loyalty missions. Since Legion only becomes available after the IFF mission and you already tried to finish everything else before that mission (just like 99% of all mass effect players), you can't take him to anything relevant.
All squadmates in ME2 have unique dialogues for all story missions since those were done before the decision was made to lock some behind specific missions and waypoints in the story, like Horizon or the IFF mission. But taking Legion on Tali specific missions is especially interesting because of the whole Geth/Quarian history.
I checked some possible videos to react to for spoilers and ngl, it was pretty hard to find spoiler free videos but these two are.
th-cam.com/video/B5zquMPCV-0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/QDemlIaPv18/w-d-xo.html
If you play the trilogy again, be a renegade Shepard. Renegade is insanely funny to play. Also, each choosing of a charisma (paragon / renegade) dialog option (the upper / lower one) gives you charisma experience points, even if the option is not marked blue / red. The blue / red marked options give *a lot* of charisma experience points. Each charisma (paragon / renegade) dialog option requires a certain amount of charisma experience in that area plus a certain amount of charisma talent points. That means, even with low charisma talent points one can choose the charisma option if you have a lot of charisma experience and vice versa. Maxing out both the charisma experience and the charisma talent points is the fastest way to open all dialog options.
This ending gets so much worse when you consider that Joker already had tremendous survivor's guilt for "leaving" Shepard behind to die on the original Normandy.
And then Cerberus brought them back only for it to happen again.
That's so true 😭
He's for sure committing sewer slide after that bruh, no way he's taking losing the entire crew twice
The final cutscene in this scenario: it's Joker taking on the Reapers by himself. And he jokers all over them
Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed are the strongest companions, kill them off and everyone staying behind dies. If the 2 you bring with you aren’t loyal they die too, and not upgrading the ship kills 3 instantly. I just noticed this person never even activated Legion 😅
or they handed Legion to Cerberus
I tried to get this ending a few years ago. Zaeed somehow made it out on his own, ruining the attempt, but I gained a fair bit of respect for him that day.
He survived a bullet to the head. You should know he’s hard to kill 😂😅
Yeah. Zaeed is actually strong enough, even when disloyal, to straight up hold the line by himself, making this ending almost, or straight up impossible to get in the LE
He was too pissed to die in that timeline lol
@@KripticKill rage is a hell of an anaesthetic.
@@voidlessazasin1572 This video is from the legendary edition It showed how to kill off Zaeed.
I remember you saw one of those loading screen tips, something like "You can import your Shep into ME3.. if they survive" and you went "IS THAT FORESHADOWING?" - YEP. Yep hahaha
I don't even remember I said that, you're so good 🤣
The reason Zaeed doesn't make a good fireteam leader is if you listen to a lot of his stories on the Normandy, any time he's part of a team he's always the sole survivor, most of the group efforts he's led got his team killed.
Then it’s ironic that if he’s picked as fire team leader the second time he’s the only one who dies
16:03 "WHY?"
Go back to the squad select screen at 13:53, and look at the characters' feet. No glowing ring = none of the loyalty missions were done.
For some deaths, loyalty doesn't matter (e.g. if you don't upgrade the armor, Jack dies whether or not she's loyal). But for others, loyalty is considered. The two teammates you bring with you in the final fight will survive if loyal, or die if not.
Jacob and Miranda weren't loyal, so ... ils sont morts.
Oh wow I see... that's terrible!!
14:58 - Samara giving a status report while Tali and Mordin die in the background 😂
If I remember correctly (I did my play through like 12 years ago), if you don't go immediately through the relay when the team was abducted, they are already dead (except maybe 1 member) when you find them on the Collector Base. I consider that an ever worse scenario, because that way you can't even possibly save them.
You can do one more mission, Legion's loyalty mission.
Hmm, I thought Chakwas always stayed alive so she can explain what the Collectors were doing with the colonists.
@@Darth_Niki4 She always survives to that point, her potential death comes from whether you assign a guard to her / the survivors.
Not all of them: if you complete 1-3 missions, that will result half of your crew killed, while as 3 or more missions will kill them all except Dr. Chackwas.
If I remember right, it's not a matter of how many missions you complete, but how many relay jumps you make.
You probably saw after editing, but that final squad pick Legion is missing so he either sold them or never reactivated them. I love one of the top comments in that video about having Jacob as the Biotic Specialist struggling with Samara right there supporting... with a gun 🤣. There's a flowchart of how survival is calculated and of course its mostly based on loyalty and ship upgrades... But there's one that's kinda interesting for the final secondary team where you HAVE to leave at least 2 of the "heavy hitters" (Garrus, Grunt, Zaeed) or either one or multiple teammates could die with I believe Mordin, Tali, and Jack being most likely to die.
Yup, at that fiinal portion the ones who are left behind have a specific death priority list, Mordin being the one with the highest priority, followed by Jack, Tali and Kasumi (can't remember if it's in that order for that "weak" tier), then goes to Miranda, Thane, Jacob, Legion and Samara (again, can't remember if the order of that "middle" tier is correct besides Miranda being the highest priority after those on the "weak" tier) and finally the heavy hitters who are pretty much guaranteed to survive even when disloyal (unless you use mods like Risky Suicide mission where you have to throw out of the window most of the Suicide Mission logic and anything can happen, of course, the crew escort if you don't send a squadmate it will still go as usual with them being history).
While I knew that Garrus, Jacob, Mordin and Thane won’t be able to hack the door in time I didn’t know that if you don’t choose Jacob, Miranda or Garrus as Fire team leaders even Tali, Kasumi and Legion would die regardless if they’re loyal and after seeing that Legion wasn’t even part of the squad it made me wonder why it matters who’s the fire team leader
I purposefully went for this ending once just to see what happens. Then the Thane death happened. I literally thought a fridge fell on him and I couldn't help but laugh because I had a really stupid sense of humour and I was drunk.
9:09 Why does Garrus' face always attract rockets?
Do you understand what level of technical prowess is necessary to make a game where everything can (really) change according to your choices to the point that even the protagonist can die? The people at Bioware are amazing.
Ahhh yes, depresso espresso: the movie. Good times lmao. I don't have the heart to do a playthrough this bad lol.
Still surprised you got through yours without deaths. You made all of us proud. See ya in the next vid!
Hahahah that's so good!
Thank you 🥰
There was an early ME3 concept with Shepard dying in me2 being importable. You would have played as an entirely new character who wasn't Shepard. It obviously didn't make it that far into production.
11:38 default male Shep is based on a model called Mark Vanderloo.
There's a pic of him in the 90's with a shaved head and he's exactly Shepard.
Interestingly enough, 06:03 Jack's death is hard coded: if you don't upgrade, she'll die no matter what. Next two crew mates are drawn at random with priority being with those that aren't loyal (Mordin, Miranda and Jacob are only ones that cannot die, since they're on the upper levels of the ship).
Not quite random. For the shields check and the guns check, there is a list of crew that could die at each one (based somewhat on where they might be during the fight) and they get crossed off in order. You can save particular crewmates from the list by bringing them with you while fighting the Occulus in the cargo hold. They could also not be onboard the Normandy by not waking Grunt or Legion, or not recruiting either of the DLC characters or the second set of dossier characters (which is why the lists are longer than just 3), but obviously they're still technically "dead" for that run. Loyal crewmates on the list are NOT safe; if you don't upgrade the ship, someone WILL die at these checkpoints even if you've secured the Loyalty of EVERYONE.
First off, big respect to you for crediting the creator of the original video!
It's so awkward watching Tali cover Garrus while he closes the door, Jacob cast the biotic field when Samara is standing right there, Grunt getting carried away and of course Shepard tumbling to their doom. 😆There's a video by Big Dan Gaming that addresses what happens in ME3 if this ending is achieved. The prologue to ME3 is briefly featured in it however, so potential spoiler alert.
edit: found the link! Big Dan is a great channel and his Mass Effect vids are top notch! th-cam.com/video/9PasjiLkkyA/w-d-xo.html
Great video, and can't wait for ME3!
I have been waiting for this one.
Shepard is the villain and Joker is the main character. 😂 super excited for your ME3 play through.
0:00 - The Crew
How many non-squad crew members can survive depends on how many missions Shepard went on before going for the Omega 4 Relay.
If Shepard went straight away or did Legion's loyalty mission at most, everyone will survive.
If Shepard went on up to 3 missions, half of the crew will already have been melted as Shepard arrives. I'm not sure if Kelly survives here but at least Gabby will die.
If Shepard went on 4 or more missions everyone is dead except for Chakwas.
If Kelly does not survive she will be the one Shepard will see melt instead of Lilith (Lilith was the one with Kaidan/Ashley on Horizon when you got there).
2:22 - The Prologue
The only critical upgrades you need are Armor, Shields and Cannon.
Non-upgraded armor always results in Jack dying.
Non-upgraded shields and cannon will always result in a squaddie you did not bring with you to the Oculus fight to die.
6:47 - The Vent
The correct options of the specialist going into the shaft are Tali, Legion and Kasumi. They also have to be loyal. If they're not or you picked anyone else, even if loyal, they will die via rocket to the face.
Squad leader can be Miranda, Jacob or Garrus, and they too will have to be loyal. If they're not or you picked anyone else, even if loyal, the one you sent to the vent will die. In this case the vent specialist could be a loyal and romanced Tali, she will still die.
10:50 - The Bubble
Loyal Miranda, Jack or Samara as the biotic specialist will result in no casualties, any other choice will result in a squadmate dying.
Jacob and Garrus, if loyal, will survive as the diversion team leader. Miranda is a special case here as she doesn't even need to be loyal to survive. Anyone else will die.
Sending anyone to escort the people you rescued will result in the people surviving. If the escort is loyal they too will survive. If not, they will sacrifice theirself to ensure the rest make it to the Normandy.
As you saw, sending no one means they all die and Doctor Chocolates melts.
13:52 - The Finale
The squadmates you bring with you to the final fight will only survive if they're loyal.
How many survive holding the line is determined by how many there are left and what their hidden "defense score" is. "Tanks" like Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed have higher scores while physically weaker ones like Mordin and Tali have lower scores. Being loyal increases a character's score.
If the defense score sum is too low, people start dying starting from the lowest score (it's really easy to lose Mordin and/or Tali here, especially if you bring Garrus and Grunt to the final fight). If paranoid, you can bring low score characters with you to the final fight as then their survival hinges solely on loyalty.
17:35 - The Reckoning
If fewer than 2 squadmates survived to this point the mission is considered failed and Shepard will die, leaving Joker to save the galaxy in ME3. But not really, as this is a CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE with a dedicated cutscene; you will not be able to port this save into ME3 successfully.
I love the Suicide Mission as you need to know what your people's strengths are. Too many people overrely on Garrus by sending him to the vent, but hacking isn't really his forte even though he has Overload. Same goes for Jacob but he is usually sent out of spite. "Tech Expert" also leads many to pick Mordin but he is more of a biologist and a doctor than a hacker.
Few people pick wrong for the biotic specialist, but to recap, your options are: a woman genetically engineered to have top biotic abilities and training among humans, another woman whose biotics were horrendously amped with drugs and torture, a matron stage asari with virtually unmatched biotics, a security guard with basic biotics and an assassin with small scale precision biotics. Jacob and Thane don't really hold a candle to the ladies here.
That's how Suicide Mission works *SPOILERS ALERT*:
1) ship upgrades check: armor, barriers and main gun. Didn't bother to buy any of this? then say goodbye to them: Jack (armor check), Kasumi/Legion/Tali (kinetic barriers check), Thane/Garrus/Zaeed/Grunt (thanix cannon check). List is not full, it's just how it works. For example, if you take Kasumi and Thane with you to deal with Oculus in the cargo hold, Kasumi is not present in engineering, so Legion is next to die; Thane is not at the elevator, so Garrus is going to perish.
2) vents: tech expert dies if: he/she's not good enough or disloyal. Moreover, commander of 2nd squad must be competent AND loyal. Techs: Legion, Kasumi, Tali. Commanders: Garrus, Miranda, Jacob.
3) barrier walking: only pure biotic that is also loyal can handle this part. If not, one of crewmate from bubble dies. Obviously, pick Jack or Samara to maintain the barrier.
4) escort: any loyal fighter will do, but it is ideal to send someone relatively weak, someone who you won't need: Mordin, Tali, Kasumi or Jack.
5) diversion team leader: pick Garrus or Jacob or Miranda, either will do the job if loyal. Zaeed has never been a leader, he's not good enough to command.
6) hold the door part: just leave all meat shields and best fighters behind, pick someone witty or sneaky with you: Jack+Samara, Mordin+Miranda, Thane+Tali, etc. Just don't pick Garrus, Grunt or Zaeed to go with you. Otherwise, rearguard will not hold.
7) final boss battle: your mates will not survive the crash if disloyal, this is the only requirement.
8) escape: Shepard won't make it if less then two squadmates survived the mission so far.
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That's all. Hope it helps to get the better understanding of the worst ending.
The order in which people die and the person who dies in each situation can change a bit, even on the Normandy, depending on who is loyal and who isn't (I think nobody was in this case), depending on your choices, and depending on who you're bringing with you to fight the orb on the Normandy and later in the Collector base, as well.
Example: if this Shepard had brought Jack and Kasumi, or Jack and Thane, to fight the orb thing, maybe Miranda and Tali would have died instead.
PS: also, I'm not sure why he didn't have Legion in this run, but it wouldn't have made any difference.
Best case scenario, he would have died in the final defence, with Tali, Samara and Mordin.
Funny thing about that part when picking the 2nd team leader 1, if you somehow have both Jack and Garrus die during the aproach (something that without mods I dunno if ii's possible when it comes to Garrus), Jacob will tell Miranda that most of the squad don't trust them for the lead position (ironic... don't you think?).
Yay! Thanks for the upload! Even though I’ve played this game several times since 2010 I’ve actually never seen this (or if I have it’s been so long that I’ve forgotten lol). This was a really nice appetizer for what’s next. 👍👍
Many characters can die in many different ways, for example; if Jack here dies because you didn't upgrade the shields I believe, but she can also die during the seeker swarm section if you don't upgrade her implants to L5, and also die in many other locations if she is put in the wrong roles, or if she isn't loyal. It is a very complicated process.
How did moreaux retrieve ALL the bodies?! There is something dark he isn't telling us.
Maybe if collector base would had been blown up it would show less?
Empty Coffins
13:26 Does not matter, who you send. Every team member will protect them and will be saved. Best choose is Mordin, because he will survive and he is weakest of team members, so it will improve further progress.
I don't think the crewmember who dies is set specifically. A different playthrough with the same circumstances might lead to other deaths. I say this because I've seen it first hand when Garrus died when I didn't complete Zaeed's loyalty mission, but also because in this sequence Kasumi dies but she's a DLC character so she can't be designated as THE person who dies in the base game.
Also Thane is technically optional as the second set of dossier missions isn’t mandatory to do as the 5 mission timer between horizon and the collector ship is still ticking but the only other squadmate I know who gets impaled by not doing Garrus’ thanix cannon upgrade is Garrus himself
Really enjoying the BG3 Playthrough, since i'm just starting the game myself, but cannot wait for the Me3 playthrough, im sure you'll love it
Cant wait for your mass effect 3 playthrough
I recommend the full Scientist Salarain fan video. Its really good.
This is why I said I was happy and sad you were warned about the point of no return. Because when Garrus got skewered by a metal bar and Thane got incinerated by the drive core I was ready to reset my playthrough.
Imo if I had to have Garrus die in this mission it would be when I make him a leader in the 2nd wave (if you don’t do his loyalty mission) because he will get shot and before he dies he has a heart to heart with Shepard and it hits so hard.
“Sorry Shepard, won’t be with you at the end…snipe one for me will ya.”
But no one will kill Garrus willingly…right?
It took a while to realize this was even possible. We all did everything we could to keep everyone alive, so when we figured out that we could end ME2 with everyone but Joker dying, it hurt. Garrus, Tali and Grunt had me crying like a baby.
It is very difficult to achieve the worst ending, it takes a lot of work.
I can imagine!!
I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm soooo looking forward to your ME3 play through. More so now that I've just finished replaying the trilogy.
And Bro Shep feels so alien to me.
I'm so excited to start uploading it 😭
Great choices - I mean to get everybody killed 😁. At the end of the seeker swarms section it was important that both Zaeed & Grunt die. This way the team left to cover the door in next section does NOT have any of the strong fighter!
It is kind of weird that during his recruitment mission he survived a big missile but here a tiny one kill him. Lol
Loved you reaction - especially on some of those renegate lines ! For yourself you should definitely do a renegate bro Shep. You will get new voices & overall feel and is totally easy to be routhless without being a jerk to your crew 😊
Also, in this ending, TIM watches ships going to the station to... pick it up. So all along he had other ships that could jump Omega4-Relay, but sent Shepard on suicide mission, to deal with ground forces? Ok, why not send ships there so that they could jump on command and wait outside the base for Shepard to finish, or board Normandy without a crew?
ANd how they would jump there in a first place, regardless of Shepard's mission goes, if they would need not just upgrades, but great pilot to navigate through all that mess straight after jump?
So many questions.
It was painfull to watch, but worth it becouse i wanted to see your reaction so thank you. Oh and i like the nail color.
When you get your Shepard from Wish
Some Whimsy ME content to end the week! Yes, LFG!!!!
Worst possible endings with the best possible content creator!
Was kinda funny how bad the choices were. 😂
"Hacking th door? Send the Hamster! Diversion? Do we have fish? All dead? Ok, send Kelly! The rest is with me!" *jumps out the ship. Breaks both ankles*
Hope you have a nice weekend, Whimsy!
А представьте, что если бы разработчики продумали этот момент и в третьей части пришлось бы играть за Джокера? И игра была бы совершенно иной... Думаю, за такой поворот событий команду BioWare на руках носили бы))
imagine if they let you import this save and you play as cybernetically enhanced Joker in ME3 😂😂 with just James and the virmire survivor
This is the true worst ending, if you want an import that you can take to me3 (I did it yrs ago to see how bad I could make it) you take morinth and thane with you to the final fight, have them loyal so they survive, then you survive too and you have an import to take into me3 and with morinth and thane and you as only survivors, well no spoilers as idk how far you are in me3 but you can make that import and playthrough in me3 really bad, especially with virmire survivor lol. It was very hard to do as it's hard to deliberately make those horrible choices but if you want to see worst possible outcome take thane and morinth on last fight in me2 with both loyal so they and you survive and you have an import for me3.
The idea of Joker alone somehow managing to lead the fight is so cool to me, the cowards were too afraid to make a Joker mass effect 3
Yeap, if all and Shepard dies, you finish Mass Effect 2 (asseen) but you cannot import your save to ME3.
Really waiting for ME3 uploads of yours =)
-Sin
THanks a lot. I dont think that you can play ME3 without Shepard. But... you can loose many folks... and still play ME3. I tried once to lose almost everybody - the consequences for ME3 are very interesting. Definitely worth for another playthrough (I did 7 or 8 overwhole I think).
Looking foward to your ME3 videos very much 🙂
You can also lose your crew by being too slow - if you do two more missions after Legion's mission, the crewmen will get processed by the time you get there - that's why everyone warned you that the dead reaper mission starts the endgame
But Chakwas still survives anyways
The calculations aren't _that_ complicated.
Each role you choose has one person that _will_ succeed and a second that will succeed _if_ they are loyal.
Crew I think just need any _loyal_ escort, but I think a couple can do it is not loyal.
Ground squad is the most complex in theory, with each squadmate having a combat score - if they total high enough they all live. With the added DLC companions, it's actually hard to have a bad enough ground squad for them to die.
The really hard run is no deaths with no loyal squad members, but I've seen it done.
I'm yet to see who would achieve this ending unintentionally 😂
Yeah, bro-Shep messed up, but this one probably deserved it.
"They got Thane" Miranda says, while Thane is just impaled, who are they, Miranda, those who in theory can hold the force field? xD
On a serious note, I was expecting more missions like this, if not in ME2, but certainly in ME3, with meaningful choices and outcomes, and all that, not just result of previous interactions in ME1-2 and ability to resolve with "blue" or "red" options when some treshold number is passed. If you go more of action-adventure with RPG elements, just handcraft more of this type, because this is awesome.
what i've learned from this video is that joker is the actual main character
9:10 & 16:30 This should be illegal
Imagine if they actually had a version with Joker as the protagonist of ME3 👀 Although it would've been over pretty quickly tbh 😅
ME3 can't wait to see you back in action whit Shepard
Happy to see ME2 again, even if it is a nightmare alternate reality.
If you do too many missions after the crew is abducted youre not in time to save the crew, instead you get to see Kelly getting liquified. So it could be worse than this still!
that was very fun :D!
I don’t if this truly the worst ending since the whole crew survived…at least until they try to go back to Normandy
The whole crew died though
I do respect how they program into ME2 if you want to play as a totally incompetent Shepard, you can. Don't know why you would, but it is there! Haha.
As for ME3, yeah, it's basically game over. ME3 would start a new game with presumably all the crew alive? I've never done it or really looked into it. Like you can start ME2 as a new game, that was the first one I played. How it interprets the events of ME1 is somewhat dependant on which Shep your playing. Ie, if you play Male, Ashley will be live, if Fem Shep, Kaiden will be etc.
If you don't import or do the comic at the start of ME3, some of the choices you could make are made for you. Several characters that are savable in the previous games are treated as if they are dead or never existed with "placeholder" NPCs filling the roles they otherwise would.
SPOILER ALERT FOR MASS EFFECT 3 NEW GAME BELOW
Wrex, Mordin, Jack, Jacob (I might be wrong on this one), Grunt, Legion, Samara, Thane, Kasumi, and Zaeed are all treated as dead or never existed if you start a new game in ME3 without a save. Without Legion, it will be impossible to "happy ending" that conflict. Additionally, Maelon's data will have been destroyed in ME2, so it will be impossible to save Eve, and Miranda will be treated as if she was not Loyal, so she will also die at the end of her story.
I had Garrus get taken by the seeker swarm in my first playthrough because my Jack wasn't loyal. Lmao
damn bro garrus getting taking by seeker swarms is most unjust
Just take your time with posting ME3 on YT. Of anyone I saw, basically dozens of host/hostesses on specifically prologue in ME2 at least, you went through an emotional rollercoaster. Here I thought it would be same here, you were shielded from that beginning experience.
ME3 is a further learning curve from ME2 to ME3 than ME1 to ME2, specifically increase difficulty makes weaponry weaker, however powers, specifically power combos do pretty well in pace. Also, that all your actions from the previous two games do matter, not exactly how I expect, but hooray for simple algorithms I guess, n/m chit chatting with crew and just a snoop from non-NormandyNPCs is all thrown in a blender; result is you are not expecting if the taste is good, realize it can be much better yep. Most story telling it's very engaging, even emotion is tested further at least. Still ME3 can be better, yet, it's my most fav of the 3 (I love power use).
As for this worst ending for ME2, I almost pulled it off, but I play characters from movies/tv shows and pretend they are Shepherd (rping) and damn what I expected as my blueprint did not go 100% (I honestly cannot be a pure renegade Shep, thus rping) and I think I got Cersei to 80% of her personality from GoT. Exact death match in this vid is second part (and just before reaching the base for the third death) within the base and the same two died. Cersei survived ME2 and only 3/12 made it into ME3. That alone is creepy enough; prefer pidder padder music, well at least mix up things on P/R end.
And seriously Mr Witcher 3 analyst of dissecting decisions did this vid for ME (xLetalis)? I'll have to check his PT, got enough dissection for MET/MELE from a few others, prefer TW3 from xLetalis and 2 others.
Unsure where you are at in ME3, rollercoaster of emotions just got more. Make sure the safety checks are in place and enjoy the ride, no matter awesome or ill, it will be a ride.
Since you already finished ME3 , imagine what ton of great content you would miss if you played like this (with Shepard +2 alive ofc): )
It's crazy to think about!!
you have to give the illusive man a bit more credit. When everything fails who left would fight the reapers. I mean if shep shep die lol
The squadmates killed by not upgrading are picked at random - anyone but Miranda and Jacob, really.
Default BroShep is a male model (underwear model, I believe).
Except the armor it’ll always be Jack who gets killed as it happens before the oculus attacks the cargo bay
I'm glad someone else did it so I wouldn't have to.
I appreciate you putting yourself through this to entertain some of us.
I mean... jesus... I would rather drink Ryncol...
HAHAHA not the Ryncol!! 🤮
Renegade Shep is the real Shep
I killed Tali, Tane and GARUS in my playthrough... 😭
I always wondered what the point of this ending was if it can't be imported and continued at all.
Probably because BioWare knew that no one would intentionally do this so they just decided “you know, if people would try to experiment and see what happens if they fail the suicide mission let’s give them that ending”
I am fine. I am fine 😢
A small glimpse of what could have happened if the community did not warn you about the Reaper IFF mission, the first game is usually terrible if you are not the dedicated explorer kind of gamer.
Oh it wouldn't have changed anything. I would've done everything the same because the game is very obvious with hints that you should not continue, I just wouldn't have done the cosplay on the right day haha
@@WhimsyPsyche it is good to know that you are an explorative player, as can be seen from your playthrough.
Looking forward to the ME3 vids
You can still play ME3 obviously if Shepard dies, you just can't import your character from the previous game.
Nice, can you react to Mass Effect Gamerpoop after finishing 3?
This is actually hilarious because you really need to intentionally make the worst decisions possible for this outcome, and Bioware still wrote the dialogue and made the scenes for it haha
Realistically it’s hard to get everyone alive yet here it’s hard to get everyone killed
Upcoming weeks? Im still waiting me3..
caugh... not swiftly releaseing your next installation would be the opposite of my desire. 😊
Surprise, surprise
No.
I disagree. This is not the worst ending of Mass Effect 2.
I have a save with the entire crew dead, Shepard alive but only 2 squadmates made it: Morinth and Thane ...
At that point, the save can be imported to ME3 for a very different experience.
Or ... you could "romance" Morinth after the mission, and then Shepard dies.
i care about all of my team so id care
Omg that was painful to watch 😢😅
This is a really bad endng, but it's good to know that it has nothing to do with Shepard's alignment, you can achieve a perfect ending by being completely renegade.
well, Idk if this is "good", especially RP-wise, but it just shows and paragon or renegade in 95% is not a choice, but a flavor, which is good or bad depending on what you want from an RPG
Personally, paragon/renegade is one of the worst alignment/morality systems in RPGs and, as much as I love ME, and it is a lot, complete fan, it is, in my opinion, of the worst things about ME
@@nickrubin7312 Yep, it's just as you describe it, a personal taste. especially understanding that "renegade" doesn't mean evil per se but doing the right things in a chaotic way. and speaking of personal tastes, that's one of the characteristics that attracts me the most to ME series xD.
Why” ok this ones abstract when you fall the people with u will get a check if their loyal , if their not loyal they just xie in the fall so jacob and mirandas death was ourely lack of loyalty
Fun fact, it took players a while to find out that this was an actual ending in the game cause nobody actually tried to get all their squadmates killed in the game lol. Bioware had to tell the players that this ending existed in the game.
Fun fact: you've made that "fact" up, and it's not even funny
👁️👁️ How do you have to ruin the game to get this ending? 20:52
Not my Tali!!!! 😢 😭 😢 😭
Miranda and Jacob died because they weren't loyal
theres a series called the 'saddest party on the citadel' or something the actualy party part is a good watch.
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nice to see you on obsesite side of fence.
opposite, opersite?
yeah mass effect 3 whimsy? time table.....operssit
She says in the video that started playing and will upload when finished the whole game ;)
what time table btw? xD
@@nickrubin7312 a vague day like 3 days or the summet of summet. otherwise its just entropy you know dude.
New Game Mass Effect 3 .... no ME2 Character for Import. lol
Right?! Hahah
This might be a bit spoiler-ish in case you replay ME2, as I mention some mechanics here.
- The deaths in the spaceflight sequence can be different. There is a fixed order in which the characters can die depending for example who you have in your team when fighting the eyes (they are not considered then). Also, Kasumi was a DLC character so might not even have her on board when that happens.
- Dr Chakwas and the crew will die if sent back alone, no matter what. If you send anyone with them, they survive. The companion you send with them dies if disloyal.
- Garrus was okay after receiving one rocket in the face during his recruitment mission, the second one was too much...
- While that player had all their characters disloyal, Zaed would had died there even if he was loyal. You might be okay with losing him there, but he is one of the 3 characters with high defense value who makes a difference for the defense team left behind. (the fact that the mercenary group he founded kicked him out should had been a red flag about how kind of a leader he is. Also, 90% of his stories are about how his team members got offed during his missions...)
- Miranda and Jacob died at the end because they were not loyal. That's the only way any of the characters from your final team can die.
- Both the Illusive Man and Miranda repeatedly mention how important is that each crewmember should "deal with their personal problems in order to focus on the mission". The loyalty missions do just that, so anyone disloyal would either die or cause someone else's death when appointed to a special task.
Bro shep obviously threatened bt Garrus ☺️
xD