My Great Great Aunt just died at the age of 102-her family of farmers left Ukraine during the time of the Soviets. Every single member of that family blames the majority on the soviets. The soviets confiscated all the food they would grow, and distributed a measly supply of white bread rolls. My Aunts older sisters had to pull their father’s plow for the fields, because they no longer had animals, again taken by the Soviets. Given how much detail my aunt remembers from tales of her early years, what my great grandfather and others within their family wrote down in memorandum, I 100% blame the Soviets.
Raphael Lemkin defined the term and criteria for genocide in 1944. He wrote Soviet Genocide in Ukraine which includes the Holodomor, extermination of the Ukrainian intelligentsia, the destruction of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and its clergy and the mass deportations of Ukrainians to remote and extreme areas of the Soviet Union. Lemkin's work is banned in Russia. The UK government does not not officially recognise the Holodomor Genocide despite the House of Commons voting to do so in 2023. Not taught in British schools, not commemorated alongside other genocides on Holocaust Memorial Day UK and covered up by the press and mass media for decades. Forbidden history.
Note that members of kolkhoz could not own a passport (they were issued passports only in 1974). A kolkhoz worker couldn't leave it and move, go work elsewhere, in a factory, forexample. For a long time they couldn't even travel to regional center without a permit. A person born in kolkhoz needed a permit from kolkhoz management to go study in a trade school or a university, and the management would choose what they'd be allowed to study, if at all. For decades workers of kolkhoz didn't receive money as payment for their work, but 'workdays' - literally just the number of days a person has worked, often fewer than in reality, because payment could be docked. You could buy goods and food from the kolkhoz for the amount of workdays you earned, but prices were significantly higher than if actual money was used... All in all, no wonder farmers would rather slaughter their livestock than join
In November 2022, the Holodomor was recognized as a genocide by Germany, Ireland, Moldova, Romania, and the Belarusian opposition in exile. Pope Francis compared the Russian was in Ukraine with its targeted destruction of civilians infanstructure to the "terrible Holodomor Genocide", during an address at St. Peter's Square.
On the other hand, these were done for political reasons, rather than factual. That's a problem for me... of course your political opponents would claim it a genocide.
@@PetrSojnek Maybe those reasons are political, but it doesn't mean that they're bad due to this. The politics of awareness of ethnic discrimination against Ukrainians and condemnation of such politics is a positive politics. And it destroys the arguments of Russian ultranationalists that the current Russian invasion of Ukraine and the radical escalation of the war that Russia started back in 2014 is a supposedly natural response to the "expansion of NATO" , while the real problem is the political legacy of the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire, which normalizes violence against Ukrainians and the normalization, glorification or trivialization of this violence.
I remember a saying that my grandfather used to say when he lived through this. 'It was the year of silence. You never heard a bird chirp, a dog bark, or a cat meow. ' Additionally I remember my baba never throwing food out. This was why she would save any food scrap to save for later.
4:10 - Chapter 1 - Ukrainian agriculture 8:20 - Chapter 2 - Dekulakization 11:00 - Chapter 3 - Repression of ukrainian people 13:05 - Chapter 4 - The famine 16:20 - Chapter 5 - The western press debated the famine 20:15 - Chapter 6 - Cannibalism during the famine 21:40 - Chapter 7 - Was the holodomor a genocide ? 25:00 - Conclusion PS: Don't worry Eric, you will have plenty of sordid soviet story to cover !!!
Wouldn’t it be great if Russia would just leave the Ukraine the hell alone? For god’s sake, the Ukrainians have suffered enough at Russian hands over the past few centuries.
Great presentation. The script is straightforward and no nonsense. Thoroughly researched. Topical. Collectivization in Ukraine was on par with slavery in the western world. Possibly worse. Given a well-written script, it doesn't really matter who the presenter is. I think he does a good job. It is a documentary. It's not entertainment. I studied this topic at university and the historical facts presented here are on par with what is being taught at universities by historians and historical researchers. It's amazing there is even the amount of information there is given how much was buried, suppressed. Yes, this sort of thing happened elsewhere in the U.S.S.R. But the video is called The Great UKRAINIAN famine. It is focused on Ukraine. Crazy right. Pro-Russian apologists are going to be upset by this one. Sorry to tell you but this narrative is supported by the vast majority of scholars worldwide. It's not propaganda. It's one of thousands of atrocities committed/carried out by Moscow in the last 100 years. Pointing out that Stalin was Georgian does nothing to absolve Moscow's history of failures.
Short answer is no, but long answer yes. Despite the cliche response, Soviet style "communism" was not really communism. Even the Soviets understood this at the time and would have jokes about how true communism was just around the corner if everyone did their part. In reality though, Soviet style "communism" is, to me, the most likely outcome of any sort of communist revolution.
The Bloodlands bt Timothy Snyder is available on TH-cam and its worth the time And ppl still deny this happened and take up for Stalin,he was as every bit as evil as Hitler or anyone a person could imagine,an absolute monster
The fact that Stalin isn’t as universally despised as Hitler is abhorrent. The Holodomor was an intentional genocide by a famine of the Ukrainian people, Stalin knew exactly what he was doing, wanted it to be that way he could’ve stopped it at anytime but chose not to. There’s nothing morally that separates him from Hitler.
This is one of the few videos covering the Soviet famines that I've seen that calls out Walter Duranty and his playing defense for Stalin's incompetence and crimes. Instant like!
@@Jiff321 it is not anti Russia.. Russia has done some bad shit. The US has been called out plenty of times for its bullshit. The news hypocrisy is siding with Russia and Palestine. It’s terrible when 200 children die in Palestine but 600 in a shopping center in Ukraine is fine and dandy…I suggest you look at yourself if you think facts are propaganda.
fake is not the events but how it is presented. there was widespread famine in the whole union because commies are idiots there were orders to take food from some places and to move it to other places to feed the party while people were starving. what didn't happen is stalin climbing the moon to turn it the other way, then digging underground and sucking all the water, then building a giant magnifying glass for the sun, just to start the famine in ukraina (and nowhere else in tankie union) just to kill more exclusively ukrainian peasants and no one else. this is basically saying yankeestan slavery was terrible, but shoah didn't happen it's all 209 propaganda. one thing being bad doesn't erase the other bad thing. tankies just suck because they are stupid and killed a lot of people
0:55 You got that backwards. The Ukrainian Bolsheviks were based in Kharkov, while those favoring an independent Ukraine were based in Kiev. (In anticipation of the hate I'll get, I want to point out that I'm using the old names rather than the modern names because those were the names both cities used in the time I'm referring to.)
Thank you for covering this topic I haven’t followed these channels in a few months Is Simon taking a break? Or is he just doing certain channels now? I don’t mind the new host - he speaks clearly & the information is still all there. Just wondering
Simon finished up a few months ago. The regular interim host is Karl Smallwood but Eric also does some readings now too. Most of Simons channels are still his but there are about 5 he's no longer involved with. It just means the Whistler Universe (Whistlerverse) has gone back to being a Whistle Galaxy. They all know each other in some form or other and most writers and hosts go way back so all good 💜
They don't care, the quality of these videos have dropped hugely especially for us guys who have watched for years across channels Simon has presented on this one has seen the biggest drop in production and editing quality since his departure
Lost a chunk of family to this. I am half Ukrainian background. My father was born in the US in 1921. Grandma fled here. Her sister and some others were not so fortunate. They were just family farmers. One male relative died due to a booby trap of some sort while trying to escape. Grandma was not that amazing at explanations but did come and learn English and become a chef. Father was a slightly older father, and no doubt very aware, but he passed just before I was 12, and already did not like to discuss many issues (Decorated WWII vet, and though they had no words for it that were proper then, PTSD). He'd have been 102 this year. Thanks to these histories I am learning more about this. It was never mentioned and one of my majors was 1980s political science with a heavy influence by Russia and its major ISSUES after all those years of a Cold War.
One suggestion to host: break eye contact once in a while; it is a bit unnerving, even with video playing on a screen slightly of to the side. Otherwise, nice presentation.
Thanks for the program. It hit the high points, but it didn't drive home the lows. It had a kind of a low budget Alfred Hitchcock presents feel to it. Sad days. Thanks again.
the Bengal famine was caused by a combination of hoarding, wartime priorities, natural disasters, and japanese occupation. Putting the blame on churchill ignores all other factors
You are right about the other contributing factors but Churchill specifically prevented food from coming from Australia and Canada because , as he said , " Indians will only breed like rabbits " hence there is no point in feeding them.
This presentation described the flaws of the Soviet Union and its policies but failed to prove if Holodomor was a genocide or not. As the presenter mentioned, other parts of the Soviet Union also experienced famine at the time. And, though there were more Khulaks in Ukraine then, other Khulaks from the rest of the Soviet Union were also sent to the East. My wife's grandfather and great-grandfather with their families who were Russians and were based in Russia were also sent to the east, as they were regarded as Khulaks. In my opinion, the policies of the Soviet Union affected all Soviet citizens.
@@hewhoshallnotbenamed5168 Leon Trotsky was a key figure in the collectivization of agriculture across the Soviet Union (including Ukraine) in the 1920s.
@@Atreid3s Trotsky was expelled from the communist party in 1927. Collectivization didn't begin until 1928. Please get your facts straight before posting.
@@hewhoshallnotbenamed5168 so you're saying Trotsky had no hand in planning collectivization even tho he writes about it in his book? Ok sure. I'm sure you know Trotsky better than he knew himself.
How could you kill your child so you could live? You would think it would be the other way around...but I can't judge I've never been there...I just thought that thought process was strange...
Didn’t think the production or presentation value could possibly be worse than they were under Karl Smallwood, but you’ve proven me wrong. Unsubscribing from this rapidly sinking channel.
@Gurziak Interesting that you chose to critique my response and not the antisemitic comment. The leader of Ukraine is Jewish, that is a fact. But the soviets were a mixture - although they were communist and therefore atheist. They were led by Stalin, who was Georgian, and attended a spiritual seminar there. So was definitely not jewish.
If anyone is further interested in the topic, read Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder, I reckon he did a brilliant job retelling and reflecting on what happened...
Yes. That of course being the Holodomor. The insistence on referring to it as the “Ukrainian Famine” is likely due to current events and political bias.
Yes. That of course being the Holodomor. The insistence on referring to it as the "Ukrainian Famine" is likely due to current events and political bias.
My god. These shows have changed so much. I see that if you go into the comments, all you will basically see is people saying they like/love the new host. So off first appearance it seems like things are okay. However if you just dig a bit you’ll see that once these new hosts took over, views, likes and comments have dropped by about 75-90%. I mean come on, of the 20 videos that are by the new host, try and find one with more than like 50k views……compared to any of Simon’s videos that get drastically more views and interactions in far less time….it’s blatantly obvious these shows are tanking since Simon’s departure or what the fuck ever happened to him. These hosts are just bleh. Simon was way more into what he was telling you. More passionate. These people are just reading a script, going through the motions. Simon was the boss, so he could say and act how he wanted. These host are basically just reading us sleepy time books in comparison. Unfortunately. They’ve just lost a subscriber who has been here since the beginning. Subbed to most of Simon’s channels. But not if these are the new host. Bring back Simon!!!
@@BTScriviner I have no idea how people still don't get this. He is a damn good script reader, but to claim he connects with his videos when he can hardly remember anything from them a week later is baffling. One of his greatest skills is being able to read things he doesn't care about (Roman emperors, LOTR, etc) and not making it obvious.
Works fine in France, Sweden, Finland, Australia, Germany. When you involve Russians you invite chaos. Karl Marx-1850. Fascist Americans like DeSatan and Trumpachenko want you to believe Norway and North Korea are the same thing.
I could only get halfway through this. The topic is interesting, but the narrator absolutely sucks! His disinterested tone and apathy to topic just ruined it!
It was the first one I recorded. It's not the mic or the camera. I made the mistake of recording it with the heater running and through OBS. No idea why the frame rate got cut to crap.
@@geographicstravelyou should also do one on a book called "the Tragedy of a People" has to do with the waves of invasions by the red army until they crippled their opponents. It takes place during the revolutions. And is actually one of the most Terrifying volumes of work I've read. Where it's just like a snowstorm death passing over the land repeatedly. Like 8 times. Wild. I've never seen anyone really cover that book, but they do the revolution but it never actually gets to the heart of the terror. Like it points out that most of the 1st, 2nd, and 3d wave of socialists were all killed by the next wave. Like the supporters were destroyed because they didn't want anyone to remember the old world. And those soldiers would be destroyed cause they would remember killing the first wave...and so forth for multiple times. It's absolutely wild. And by the end of it, very few socialist even knew what the previous Tzars name was. 😂 and it had only been like a decade.
The civil war did.. but then they moved to killing civilians. Gulags and oppression started in 1918 with the start of "totally not J involvement Bolshevism".
The so called " Freedom Fighters " aka the Allies of WW2 literally sided with the guys who not too long before WW2 committed this genocide and like that wasn't already bad enough they also turned a blind eye to Gulags , mass deportations and theft that took place in Eastern Europe after it was " Liberated " . The cherry on the cake is that the same nations also though that Ukraine getting rid of it's nuclear weapons was a good idea and we all know what that lead to . It should be against International Law for Americans to even give their opinions on geopolitics
Yeah, we should have just let the commies and national socialists carve up Europe and other parts of the globe. I'm sure it wouldn't have affected us in the long run. And we totally didn't have a cold war, numerous proxy wars, several hot wars with direct us military involvement, and several incidents that almost caused a nuclear conflict with the Soviets, all post WWII. But yeah the Soviets were our allies, except they actually weren't, they were just fighting the same mutual enemy at the time.
Not going to happen, Simon and the channel owner have parted way months ago. So either you embrace the change... or not. And if not, you can either remain and be unhappy or leave.
There is no evidence to support the accusations of genocide and famine during Stalin's leadership. The famine that occurred in the Soviet Union in the 1930s was triggered by a combination of natural factors such as poor weather conditions and crop failures, compounded by the effects of a fascist and capitalist bloc' embargoes (of which the United States was a major part). Stalin played a leading role in overseeing the efforts to address and reduce the effects of the famine, organizing the distribution of food and supplies to the affected regions. Furthermore, the term "Holodomor" has been used to refer to this famine, but it is a propaganda term that was created by Ukrainian fascists and anti-communist propagandists. There is no evidence that supports the use of this term, and it is a fabrication used to smear Stalin and the USSR.
There is a huge amount of evidence to support it, with little to no effort made to reduce it. Orders still exist within the archives of how they prioritised workers, and there is a huge amount of evidence that shows Ukraine was disproportionately hit, as were places like Kazakhstan. There were casualties within russia, but these also tended to be of minority groups. Its also incredibly well documented that during this time Stalin took more grain to sell, and adamantly refused outside aid despite the world knowing what was happening in Ukraine.
The biologist responsible for Soviet agriculture policy, Trofim Lysenko, was Ukrainian, Stalin was Georgian, millions of Russians starved, but we do love to heap all the blame onto Russia.
@@mamamia8284 Russia was only part of the Soviet Union, and Russia was the first country to get out of it. Nikita Khrushchev was Ukrainian, he gave Crimea to Ukraine, planting the seeds of today's hostilities. There are no innocent parties in this period of history.
@@gullepomp He was the leader of Germany, not Austria, so we don't blame Austria. We give Russia all the blame for the Soviet Union, which is unfair, Russians suffered under the Soviet System same as everyone else, and Americans suffer under the American Empire.
Yeah i like how Ukraine acts like it's a sole victim of famine and it's their genocide (and not just dumb soviet policies), while every country in USSR suffered just as much
That's how u do it LITTLE. WOOD. introduce yourself, and get on with the subject right away. Nobody cares if that's your real name or if it spells with SIMON.
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I like Simon better.
My Great Great Aunt just died at the age of 102-her family of farmers left Ukraine during the time of the Soviets.
Every single member of that family blames the majority on the soviets. The soviets confiscated all the food they would grow, and distributed a measly supply of white bread rolls. My Aunts older sisters had to pull their father’s plow for the fields, because they no longer had animals, again taken by the Soviets.
Given how much detail my aunt remembers from tales of her early years, what my great grandfather and others within their family wrote down in memorandum, I 100% blame the Soviets.
You should try to put all that story online to keep the truth of individual experiences of the past from being lost.
Raphael Lemkin defined the term and criteria for genocide in 1944. He wrote Soviet Genocide in Ukraine which includes the Holodomor, extermination of the Ukrainian intelligentsia, the destruction of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and its clergy and the mass deportations of Ukrainians to remote and extreme areas of the Soviet Union. Lemkin's work is banned in Russia. The UK government does not not officially recognise the Holodomor Genocide despite the House of Commons voting to do so in 2023. Not taught in British schools, not commemorated alongside other genocides on Holocaust Memorial Day UK and covered up by the press and mass media for decades. Forbidden history.
The Holodomor, a horrific national trauma of Ukraine. I haven't studied it much, so I appreciate how this video explains the events as they unfolded.
Note that members of kolkhoz could not own a passport (they were issued passports only in 1974). A kolkhoz worker couldn't leave it and move, go work elsewhere, in a factory, forexample. For a long time they couldn't even travel to regional center without a permit. A person born in kolkhoz needed a permit from kolkhoz management to go study in a trade school or a university, and the management would choose what they'd be allowed to study, if at all. For decades workers of kolkhoz didn't receive money as payment for their work, but 'workdays' - literally just the number of days a person has worked, often fewer than in reality, because payment could be docked. You could buy goods and food from the kolkhoz for the amount of workdays you earned, but prices were significantly higher than if actual money was used...
All in all, no wonder farmers would rather slaughter their livestock than join
No difference between Hitler-Stalin, Beria-Himmler, Gestapo-N.K.V.D or Ribbentrop-Molotov.
I approve of using Eric to cover darker subjects. Karl would seem out of place with such topics. Eric’s voice adds to the gravitas of the topic
No.
Not true. Karl did very well with the video on the Hillsborough disaster.
I approve of using Eric to cover every video. I can’t understand half of what Karl is saying.
In November 2022, the Holodomor was recognized as a genocide by Germany, Ireland, Moldova, Romania, and the Belarusian opposition in exile. Pope Francis compared the Russian was in Ukraine with its targeted destruction of civilians infanstructure to the "terrible Holodomor Genocide", during an address at St. Peter's Square.
On the other hand, these were done for political reasons, rather than factual. That's a problem for me... of course your political opponents would claim it a genocide.
@@PetrSojnek The person who coined the word 'genocide' used the Holodomor as an example of genocide.
@@ApocolypseZombie Thanks for the interesting tidbit. Where is your source for this?
@@PetrSojnek
Maybe those reasons are political, but it doesn't mean that they're bad due to this. The politics of awareness of ethnic discrimination against Ukrainians and condemnation of such politics is a positive politics. And it destroys the arguments of Russian ultranationalists that the current Russian invasion of Ukraine and the radical escalation of the war that Russia started back in 2014 is a supposedly natural response to the "expansion of NATO" , while the real problem is the political legacy of the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire, which normalizes violence against Ukrainians and the normalization, glorification or trivialization of this violence.
I remember a saying that my grandfather used to say when he lived through this.
'It was the year of silence. You never heard a bird chirp, a dog bark, or a cat meow. '
Additionally I remember my baba never throwing food out. This was why she would save any food scrap to save for later.
Wow. That's such a powerful statement. I never even thought about that part of it but it really shows how severe and desperate people became.
4:10 - Chapter 1 - Ukrainian agriculture
8:20 - Chapter 2 - Dekulakization
11:00 - Chapter 3 - Repression of ukrainian people
13:05 - Chapter 4 - The famine
16:20 - Chapter 5 - The western press debated the famine
20:15 - Chapter 6 - Cannibalism during the famine
21:40 - Chapter 7 - Was the holodomor a genocide ?
25:00 - Conclusion
PS: Don't worry Eric, you will have plenty of sordid soviet story to cover !!!
Wouldn’t it be great if Russia would just leave the Ukraine the hell alone? For god’s sake, the Ukrainians have suffered enough at Russian hands over the past few centuries.
No wonder that today Ukraine doesn't want to be united with Russia.
Great presentation. The script is straightforward and no nonsense. Thoroughly researched. Topical. Collectivization in Ukraine was on par with slavery in the western world. Possibly worse. Given a well-written script, it doesn't really matter who the presenter is. I think he does a good job. It is a documentary. It's not entertainment. I studied this topic at university and the historical facts presented here are on par with what is being taught at universities by historians and historical researchers. It's amazing there is even the amount of information there is given how much was buried, suppressed. Yes, this sort of thing happened elsewhere in the U.S.S.R. But the video is called The Great UKRAINIAN famine. It is focused on Ukraine. Crazy right. Pro-Russian apologists are going to be upset by this one. Sorry to tell you but this narrative is supported by the vast majority of scholars worldwide. It's not propaganda. It's one of thousands of atrocities committed/carried out by Moscow in the last 100 years. Pointing out that Stalin was Georgian does nothing to absolve Moscow's history of failures.
Either way, communism is to be blamed
..and Marxism is a Jewish accomplishment..
Short answer is no, but long answer yes. Despite the cliche response, Soviet style "communism" was not really communism. Even the Soviets understood this at the time and would have jokes about how true communism was just around the corner if everyone did their part. In reality though, Soviet style "communism" is, to me, the most likely outcome of any sort of communist revolution.
@@lowman5893 rusia wasn't communism bros
China wasn't communism bros
Khmer wasn't communism bros
@@МаксБурый-р2ю Did you even read all the way through my post? I addressed this.
The Bloodlands bt Timothy Snyder is available on TH-cam and its worth the time
And ppl still deny this happened and take up for Stalin,he was as every bit as evil as Hitler or anyone a person could imagine,an absolute monster
The fact that Stalin isn’t as universally despised as Hitler is abhorrent. The Holodomor was an intentional genocide by a famine of the Ukrainian people, Stalin knew exactly what he was doing, wanted it to be that way he could’ve stopped it at anytime but chose not to. There’s nothing morally that separates him from Hitler.
The fact that none of the Allied leaders are as hated as Hitler is abhorrent. Especially Churchill and Stalin.
The fact that none of the Allied leaders are as hated as A.H. is abhorrent. Especially Churchill and Stalin.
We can not make the mistake of thinking this could never happen in our nation and not now. This is the barely hidden face of communism.
Trumpachenko-DeSatan Fascisim in America is the problem. These things don't happen in Finland, Sweden or France.
It's the face of authoritarianism.
@@aq5426 Fascist or hardcore North Korean Communisim.
@@aq5426 keep saying yourself that
Also post a video of Great Bengal Famine of India in 1943 caused by Winston Churchill.
This is one of the few videos covering the Soviet famines that I've seen that calls out Walter Duranty and his playing defense for Stalin's incompetence and crimes. Instant like!
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Im early, imagine my surprise when I found out millions say this is fake…
Well it’s not fake but it’s definitely propaganda this channel is made around anti Russia pro Ukraine propaganda lol. Every video 😂
@@Jiff321 it is not anti Russia.. Russia has done some bad shit. The US has been called out plenty of times for its bullshit. The news hypocrisy is siding with Russia and Palestine. It’s terrible when 200 children die in Palestine but 600 in a shopping center in Ukraine is fine and dandy…I suggest you look at yourself if you think facts are propaganda.
@@Jiff321 Found the Tankie. Go cheer on genocide somewhere else.
@@Jiff321who wouldn't? a hitler?
fake is not the events but how it is presented.
there was widespread famine in the whole union because commies are idiots
there were orders to take food from some places and to move it to other places to feed the party while people were starving.
what didn't happen is stalin climbing the moon to turn it the other way, then digging underground and sucking all the water, then building a giant magnifying glass for the sun, just to start the famine in ukraina (and nowhere else in tankie union) just to kill more exclusively ukrainian peasants and no one else.
this is basically saying yankeestan slavery was terrible, but shoah didn't happen it's all 209 propaganda.
one thing being bad doesn't erase the other bad thing. tankies just suck because they are stupid and killed a lot of people
0:55 You got that backwards. The Ukrainian Bolsheviks were based in Kharkov, while those favoring an independent Ukraine were based in Kiev.
(In anticipation of the hate I'll get, I want to point out that I'm using the old names rather than the modern names because those were the names both cities used in the time I'm referring to.)
No it wasn't
It was Kiyv in 1920s
If you stayed on as regular host I'd be down. I liked Science Get. You have a good voice for this work.
Thank you for covering this topic
I haven’t followed these channels in a few months
Is Simon taking a break? Or is he just doing certain channels now?
I don’t mind the new host - he speaks clearly & the information is still all there. Just wondering
Simon has left
@@archstanton6102 dang
@@datboib3432 He left about 6 months ago. But has a channel called Places.
Simon finished up a few months ago. The regular interim host is Karl Smallwood but Eric also does some readings now too. Most of Simons channels are still his but there are about 5 he's no longer involved with. It just means the Whistler Universe (Whistlerverse) has gone back to being a Whistle Galaxy. They all know each other in some form or other and most writers and hosts go way back so all good 💜
Very good video and presentation 👍👍👍
presentation tip: we can see the shadow of your hands moving but not your hands themselves, get them in frame or do something abt the shadow thing
They don't care, the quality of these videos have dropped hugely especially for us guys who have watched for years across channels Simon has presented on this one has seen the biggest drop in production and editing quality since his departure
It was the first one I recorded. Kinks have been worked out.
"since his departure" guy claims he has watched for years, somehow missed that Simon is on break?? nice try though. @@zainhanif9558
Lost a chunk of family to this. I am half Ukrainian background. My father was born in the US in 1921. Grandma fled here. Her sister and some others were not so fortunate. They were just family farmers. One male relative died due to a booby trap of some sort while trying to escape. Grandma was not that amazing at explanations but did come and learn English and become a chef. Father was a slightly older father, and no doubt very aware, but he passed just before I was 12, and already did not like to discuss many issues (Decorated WWII vet, and though they had no words for it that were proper then, PTSD). He'd have been 102 this year. Thanks to these histories I am learning more about this. It was never mentioned and one of my majors was 1980s political science with a heavy influence by Russia and its major ISSUES after all those years of a Cold War.
One suggestion to host: break eye contact once in a while; it is a bit unnerving, even with video playing on a screen slightly of to the side. Otherwise, nice presentation.
I don't know which is sadder, the subject matter or the people in this very comment section insisting it's not real.
I live in Kazakhstan, My wife's grandfather would like to have a word with anyone who thinks it's not real.
Is it just me or is the sound really that bad?
Yeah, it is🥸
It's clearly a fairly cheap standard microphone. Possibly built into the webcam he's using.
First one I recorded. My mistake for forgetting to turn off the heater.
Thanks for the program. It hit the high points, but it didn't drive home the lows. It had a kind of a low budget Alfred Hitchcock presents feel to it. Sad days. Thanks again.
It's like the Bengal famine which was caused my Winston Churchill and his whites only policy, favouring the English over Indians .
My grandfather was in the air force in India during ww2. He took lots of pictures of India and its people. That famine was horrible.
Only caused by Churchill and no one else and no other factors? Really ?
Any actual evidence for this?
the Bengal famine was caused by a combination of hoarding, wartime priorities, natural disasters, and japanese occupation. Putting the blame on churchill ignores all other factors
You are right about the other contributing factors but Churchill specifically prevented food from coming from Australia and Canada because , as he said , " Indians will only breed like rabbits " hence there is no point in feeding them.
The music at the start of the video is completely out of place just too jovial for such a dark topic
Welcome back, Eric!
ACKSHUALLY it wasn’t real communism
What happened to the quality of the editing on this channel...
This presentation described the flaws of the Soviet Union and its policies but failed to prove if Holodomor was a genocide or not. As the presenter mentioned, other parts of the Soviet Union also experienced famine at the time. And, though there were more Khulaks in Ukraine then, other Khulaks from the rest of the Soviet Union were also sent to the East. My wife's grandfather and great-grandfather with their families who were Russians and were based in Russia were also sent to the east, as they were regarded as Khulaks. In my opinion, the policies of the Soviet Union affected all Soviet citizens.
Leon Trotsky is conspicuously absent from this little documentary...
He wasn't in power at this time
Trotsky was exiled by Stalin prior to these events.
@@hewhoshallnotbenamed5168 Leon Trotsky was a key figure in the collectivization of agriculture across the Soviet Union (including Ukraine) in the 1920s.
@@Atreid3s Trotsky was expelled from the communist party in 1927. Collectivization didn't begin until 1928. Please get your facts straight before posting.
@@hewhoshallnotbenamed5168 so you're saying Trotsky had no hand in planning collectivization even tho he writes about it in his book? Ok sure. I'm sure you know Trotsky better than he knew himself.
My only criticism of the presentation is you need some echo dampening and to turn your gain down a little, bud!
The heater was on, and for some reason recording through OBS caused the framerate to be cut to crap. Other recordings have been fine. :)
Hey. Where is Simon?
He and the channel owner parted ways amicably months ago.
During this time, what was the ethnic make-up of the governing Bolsheviks and secret police?
Ukrainian 😢
Depends on what region or country
Love these videod
The more times change, the more they stay the same
How could you kill your child so you could live? You would think it would be the other way around...but I can't judge I've never been there...I just thought that thought process was strange...
What happened to karl Smallwood
He'll be back next week.
@@geographicstravel okay
I like Eric, he remembers me to Nick Offerman.
Ron Swanson is my spirit animal. I love bourbon and breakfast food.
Didn’t think the production or presentation value could possibly be worse than they were under Karl Smallwood, but you’ve proven me wrong. Unsubscribing from this rapidly sinking channel.
And Putler is doing his very best to repeat it!
Nah, lil hats clearing Ukraine then and a lil hat in charge of Ukraine now..
@@leighz1962more hate and fear from your obsessed anti-semitic mind
@@archstanton6102didn't realise little output was Jewish. Better work on your come- backs 😂
@@archstanton6102you didn't say he was wrong
@Gurziak Interesting that you chose to critique my response and not the antisemitic comment.
The leader of Ukraine is Jewish, that is a fact. But the soviets were a mixture - although they were communist and therefore atheist. They were led by Stalin, who was Georgian, and attended a spiritual seminar there. So was definitely not jewish.
If anyone is further interested in the topic, read Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder, I reckon he did a brilliant job retelling and reflecting on what happened...
Home come LoTR is the first thing that comes to mind when I hear the world “Holodomor” 😅
Probably because you're ignorant af, but what do I know 😒😒
@@alt-right2805 this comment is ignorant af. No stupid questions only stupid is ignorant answers
please make Simon buy better mike and at least something to improve acoustics of the room, it echoes quite much. Maybe some lights also.
Where's kazakh's golodomor?
Getting used to your voice, good work. 👍🏻
Crash?
Wasn't there an overall famine in the entire Soviet union too?
Yes. That of course being the Holodomor. The insistence on referring to it as the “Ukrainian Famine” is likely due to current events and political bias.
Yes. That of course being the Holodomor. The insistence on referring to it as the "Ukrainian Famine" is likely due to current events and political bias.
Yes. That of course being the Holodomor. The insistence on only referring to it as “the Ukrainian Famine" is quite disgusting.
bro filmed this with a half eaten piece of avocado
My god. These shows have changed so much. I see that if you go into the comments, all you will basically see is people saying they like/love the new host. So off first appearance it seems like things are okay. However if you just dig a bit you’ll see that once these new hosts took over, views, likes and comments have dropped by about 75-90%. I mean come on, of the 20 videos that are by the new host, try and find one with more than like 50k views……compared to any of Simon’s videos that get drastically more views and interactions in far less time….it’s blatantly obvious these shows are tanking since Simon’s departure or what the fuck ever happened to him. These hosts are just bleh. Simon was way more into what he was telling you. More passionate. These people are just reading a script, going through the motions. Simon was the boss, so he could say and act how he wanted. These host are basically just reading us sleepy time books in comparison. Unfortunately. They’ve just lost a subscriber who has been here since the beginning. Subbed to most of Simon’s channels. But not if these are the new host. Bring back Simon!!!
Technically he was not a boss You know... for sure he could act like he wanted and his passion in sharing interesting facts was what attracted me.
Simon is not coming back.
Simon reads a script too. He was just the presenter. He had nothing to do any video's creation.
Simon left of his own decision and is not coming back.
@@BTScriviner I have no idea how people still don't get this. He is a damn good script reader, but to claim he connects with his videos when he can hardly remember anything from them a week later is baffling. One of his greatest skills is being able to read things he doesn't care about (Roman emperors, LOTR, etc) and not making it obvious.
Is that metallic high pressured agressive voice deliberately?
Whoever is writing this script and kept writing, "and I quote" needs to be told to stop. He/she made you say it so many times, it was annoying.
Bring Simon back
Socialism... Not even once.
Works fine in France, Sweden, Finland, Australia, Germany. When you involve Russians you invite chaos. Karl Marx-1850. Fascist Americans like DeSatan and Trumpachenko want you to believe Norway and North Korea are the same thing.
Please get this man a better mic. Having him record on whatever potato mic he's using is a waste of his voice.
Where's the Smallwood?
He is taking a break from the heavier subjects
@@littleshep5502 Damn, I like his style.
@@Raymond.Butler he'll be back, the admin for the channel responded to another comment saying he is back next week
20:12 Glad to say, there was never any records of cannibalism during the Famine in ireland🇮🇪 from 1845 to 52
where the fudge issimon
We Simon back
I could only get halfway through this. The topic is interesting, but the narrator absolutely sucks! His disinterested tone and apathy to topic just ruined it!
interesting.
How did the creation of this video get as far as it did without a better microphone?
Or camera. The writing was spot-on, though.
It was the first one I recorded. It's not the mic or the camera. I made the mistake of recording it with the heater running and through OBS. No idea why the frame rate got cut to crap.
@@geographicstravelhey. You did a good job. Keep it up.
@@geographicstravelyou should also do one on a book called "the Tragedy of a People" has to do with the waves of invasions by the red army until they crippled their opponents. It takes place during the revolutions. And is actually one of the most Terrifying volumes of work I've read. Where it's just like a snowstorm death passing over the land repeatedly. Like 8 times. Wild. I've never seen anyone really cover that book, but they do the revolution but it never actually gets to the heart of the terror. Like it points out that most of the 1st, 2nd, and 3d wave of socialists were all killed by the next wave. Like the supporters were destroyed because they didn't want anyone to remember the old world. And those soldiers would be destroyed cause they would remember killing the first wave...and so forth for multiple times. It's absolutely wild. And by the end of it, very few socialist even knew what the previous Tzars name was. 😂 and it had only been like a decade.
Please stop saying “and I quote” everytime you quote someone 😅 it could damn near be a drinking game
Get drunk, I guess?
@@geographicstravel y’all are great🤣 challenge accepted
sorry can't listen to your vioce, but at least I now have a channel to put me to sleep...
Where's Simon?
As indicated multiple times in past videos, he's gone and will not come back.
He and the owner of the channel parted ways months ago. Where have YOU been?
UNSUBBING
@@paulherman5822 dealing with life...lol
@@paulherman5822Maybe some of us have a life outside of TH-cam.
we have simon whistler at home
simon whistler at home:
BRING BACK SIMON
The more i learn about Stalin, the more similarities I can draw to trudeau.
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Didn’t the Ukraine Soviet war end during the time of Lenin. Also Didn’t Poland help partition Ukraine.
The civil war did.. but then they moved to killing civilians. Gulags and oppression started in 1918 with the start of "totally not J involvement Bolshevism".
@@leighz1962 Obsessed much?
The so called " Freedom Fighters " aka the Allies of WW2 literally sided with the guys who not too long before WW2 committed this genocide and like that wasn't already bad enough they also turned a blind eye to Gulags , mass deportations and theft that took place in Eastern Europe after it was " Liberated " . The cherry on the cake is that the same nations also though that Ukraine getting rid of it's nuclear weapons was a good idea and we all know what that lead to . It should be against International Law for Americans to even give their opinions on geopolitics
Yeah, we should have just let the commies and national socialists carve up Europe and other parts of the globe. I'm sure it wouldn't have affected us in the long run. And we totally didn't have a cold war, numerous proxy wars, several hot wars with direct us military involvement, and several incidents that almost caused a nuclear conflict with the Soviets, all post WWII. But yeah the Soviets were our allies, except they actually weren't, they were just fighting the same mutual enemy at the time.
Not today, Putin.
Despite that, any time the US decides to not get involved in some international conflict, everyone complains that the US isn't helping
@@sneakerbabeful Putin ?? lol If I was to express my opinion on Russia here on TH-cam I would be banned forever 😂
@@demoncet1998 everyone being England
Ukraine is to Russia what Ireland is to Britain
even having its own 'Ulster' in the Donbas
I thought the holodomor was something from Lord of the rings
Here, take an L.
And the West allied itself with this monster.
Yes, only temporarily against a bigger monster.
Context matters.
Yeah and so did Hitler at one point
The West were monsters as well. And don't believe for a second they weren't.
The West were monsters as well. You do your best to remember that.
The West were monsters as well. You do well to remember that.
GO AWAY AND BRING THE BALD GUY BACK.
Not going to happen, Simon and the channel owner have parted way months ago. So either you embrace the change... or not. And if not, you can either remain and be unhappy or leave.
With only 2 comments, no one will notice or miss you.
@@archstanton6102 I am fully aware of that good Sir, emotions... emotions made me to punch the keyboard.
merging time space continuum
yes cool geography of golodomor very famous tourist destination
There is no evidence to support the accusations of genocide and famine during Stalin's leadership. The famine that occurred in the Soviet Union in the 1930s was triggered by a combination of natural factors such as poor weather conditions and crop failures, compounded by the effects of a fascist and capitalist bloc' embargoes (of which the United States was a major part). Stalin played a leading role in overseeing the efforts to address and reduce the effects of the famine, organizing the distribution of food and supplies to the affected regions. Furthermore, the term "Holodomor" has been used to refer to this famine, but it is a propaganda term that was created by Ukrainian fascists and anti-communist propagandists. There is no evidence that supports the use of this term, and it is a fabrication used to smear Stalin and the USSR.
Whatever you say Ivan of the RCP
There is a huge amount of evidence to support it, with little to no effort made to reduce it. Orders still exist within the archives of how they prioritised workers, and there is a huge amount of evidence that shows Ukraine was disproportionately hit, as were places like Kazakhstan. There were casualties within russia, but these also tended to be of minority groups.
Its also incredibly well documented that during this time Stalin took more grain to sell, and adamantly refused outside aid despite the world knowing what was happening in Ukraine.
Of course someone with Vladimir Lenin as their profile picture would be a Soviet apologist.
The biologist responsible for Soviet agriculture policy, Trofim Lysenko, was Ukrainian, Stalin was Georgian, millions of Russians starved, but we do love to heap all the blame onto Russia.
Soviet Union=Russia
@@mamamia8284 Russia was only part of the Soviet Union, and Russia was the first country to get out of it. Nikita Khrushchev was Ukrainian, he gave Crimea to Ukraine, planting the seeds of today's hostilities. There are no innocent parties in this period of history.
And Hitler wasn’t German.
@@gullepomp He was the leader of Germany, not Austria, so we don't blame Austria. We give Russia all the blame for the Soviet Union, which is unfair, Russians suffered under the Soviet System same as everyone else, and Americans suffer under the American Empire.
Yeah i like how Ukraine acts like it's a sole victim of famine and it's their genocide (and not just dumb soviet policies), while every country in USSR suffered just as much
Oh wow.. 10 seconds in and I know lil hats will be excluded just like Bolshidkhevik revolution..
Nobody mentioned polish farmers slaughtered by azov sin Ukraine 😢or jews😢😢…
What the fuck are you on about
Unsubscribed, find a better presenter or bring back simon
Nobody cares why does the channel keep pushing Ukrainian propaganda
Bait used to be believable
If you didn't care it would bother you 😂
Why do you think nobody cares? It is a historical fact.
Least of all Trumpachenko cult and Putin lovers!
Can always count on this channel to leave out the small hat involvement.
Nazi propaganda
Which has been proven by numerous researchers.
Nazi propaganda would have how many Js were involved?
How does it feel to sell your soul for Putler?
I can't tell if you are on the far far left or if you worship at the cult of Soviet style communism
Found the Tankie. Your ideology should be just as reviled as Neo-Nazis.
That's how u do it LITTLE. WOOD. introduce yourself, and get on with the subject right away. Nobody cares if that's your real name or if it spells with SIMON.