I woke from a dream of not trusting, sign in to listen to this week's teaching and it flipped to this one. Time, immeasurable, healing, immeasurable also. Thankful 💚💜💚
Hi Renee and Sandra...I wanted to mention the use of plant medicine...As a sober and drug-free person for many years I do not partake in any digestion of anything that will alter my mind. I what to express that as it is not necessary to be in an altered state to get guidance, healing etc. I stand strong in my belief and I get guidance and healing without taking any mind-altering plant medicines. I was actually in a Shaman's Circle in NY in my 20's ( i am 59 now) and I did not partake in what the group was ingesting and I had visions, etc. by just tuning-in. The group leader as well, respected my decision . I state this so that others have a choice and there are other ways to hone-in with Spirit, get clarity, healing. Thank you both for this channel...and for your guidance. I like when Sandra says ''Direct Revelation''....and when I hear this I feel...I need to be Clear not altered to receive messages in the varies ways that I receive them. Blessings...Gail ....I Trust that I will be shown what is needed along the way...as a sober-drug-free person on this path.
Thank you for sharing your path, and you are welcome here. I do not judge anyone's path and I respect yours. I have not had a drink in close to 33 years next month. I worked the steps thoroughly and made ever last amends, traveling thousands of miles by plane to complete them. For me, the Medicines of the earth healed scars that no amount of anything else including: Therapy; Ayurveda, Homeopathy, or Pharmacology(which I opted not to do) tended. The plants have been great teachers and always the work is done with a apprenticed medicine people in ceremony. I hope you did not think anyone was suggesting that is the way to spirit @Gail Cullen. There are many paths up the treacherous mountain, and the view from the top is sweet. I work in Treatment and there are children dying by the thousands weekly in our world, and perhaps there is a plant for every season. In fact the FDA is approving some medicine to treat addicts. I hope you stay with us here as this is not what our show is about.
@@TheShamansCave I am aware this is not what your show is about...I just wanted to comment when I heard of the use of Plant Medicines. I, by no means , am coming from judgement. If it appears that way I apologize. I have taken several classes with Sandra, so I am going no where. I am speaking up as I felt guided too. I honor all...When I moved from New York to the West I noticed and was being introduced to people who did not go through a protocol with the use of plant medicines. People who were leading ceremonies where I live who were not trained. I reached out to my Lakota Sioux Ex and He told me to let it go that it was none of my business. That was a challenge yet I did...or perhaps I am still holding on to that... I just did not see a ''Gatekeeper'' and heard advice being given to people who were on medication that was not correct and that could be dangerous to go off of...vs weened. ...I have observed people leading ceremonies who were not observant of people and they became lost and were not able to ''Get Back''... ( there is more to my observation and story) . I gather we all have our own path...and it is different for all of us. I would just like to remind people there is a choice... and all of our brains are different just like the trees' roots...yet, somewhere we all fit into the constellation that is the sky in the eve.
The Shamans Cave... I wanted to let you know that I listened to session 3 tonight in Sandra’s new class and we did a journey about plants... I have a completely different outlook then what I had 2 days ago... what really spoke to me was become into a relationship with a plant...etc. ask if there is a message. Something else that shifted my perspective was that the plants are the teachers to the Shaman. ( hope I got this right) it is so freeing in that it is imperative that we/I get to know a plant and learn from it just by connecting with it and making a commitment. I went to Rose and received a beautiful message . Blessings to you and thank you for being you. ❤️
Powerful! My chain, hand rail was loopy, misshapen, dark, dirty, torn - you name it! (Especially in my youngest years.) After the wind healing, it came into perfect alignment, gleaming golden in all its perfection. Thank you both!
Thank you for the talk and journey. I m a cave woman too! Lived 3 years in Hampi caves, in south India, 25 years ago, where my spontaneous visions started! Simply and deeply loving your show! One Love
This was a really powerful but sometimes sad journey for me but what came through really clearly was that even when the rail was shaky or non existent I was always on solid ground. I think this is the spirit that Sandra was referring to xxxx
I feel like this was what I needed to hear today. I want to have that trust and be that calm within my spirit when there is a storm around me. To raise that vibration and trust that I'm exactly right where I am. This is my struggle.
For me the journey was way too fast and I didn’t have time to go from one decade to the next to the next to the next that quickly .I will probably try the journey at home later when there’s a rattle and a drum and I have all the time that I need, so I think it’s a good idea just I don’t journey that quickly good to see that other people do And thanks for the guidance
Yes, we understand that it may require tending to the journey a second time or even more. We have decided to keep them to a time frame to fit the format.. Please let me know how it goes when you go back on your own @Raven Blakely.
So happy to be back with you on this beautiful sunny day in CA. I was wondering about time. It seems as though I need to do the journey's over and over and not getting the results I am anticipating. Can you share with us how often you journeyed and how long it takes to be able to get to where you first trusted that what was happening truly is happening...How many journeys does it take?...LOL Please share this part of your beginning with journeying. Namaste
At the beginning of my journey work, I thought nothing was happening. It was. Sandra spoke yesterday about journeying for 30 years. We need to act as if, until the miracle happens.
@@TheShamansCave Thank you for your response Renee, maybe Sandra can also chime in. Did plant medicine help your to connect to other realms. I know it does but how do you bring that into a journey with out medicine. Thanks so much. I still have not started your Winds course but I will. I have my whistle and have been using it. It's pretty amazing how the wind responds! Hugs!!!!
@@denisemiceli2748 I will mention to her that there are comments here, but I am the tender of this feed; still she said it in her talk yesterday, that journeying everyday for 30 plus years no matter what, is what works for her. It is different for everyone, and your experience is yours and it counts.. There is a word in your thread that you may want to consider. What if you removed your anticipation and expectation and instead work with what does come. I was doing journey work for 10 years before I ever took plant medicine. The reason I did the medicine is there were parts that no amount of other healing helped. It was the Wind Spirits that were the game changer for me. They communicate when I take wind walks.
@@TheShamansCave Thank you Renee for sharing you wisdom. As soon as I typed anticipation, I knew that is what I was doing instead of trusting. Thanks for affirming.
Yes, I have trust issues, so much I won't have another partner living with me again, and I won't allow anyone to care for my critters so Idon't far from home and it must be a day trip not gone all day. I use to trust "myself" but after my experience with the Dobermans dying of cancer, I felt I failed them and I could no longer trust my healing abilities and I am still in the process of forgiving "me." Yes, I am very hard on Tammy and I get angry with her a lot. With your and Sandra's help this may get easier, I am glad I am not alone with trust issues, it is hard. Yesterday I was very angry with my Soul, it is said the Soul comes to earth in this body with an agreement of experiences, so far (almost 60) 75% of my life experiences is about suffering, I became angry with my Soul when listening to Robert Moss "Soul Recovery" that parts of our Soul leave us when we have trauma, be it emotionally, child abuse, divorces, car accidents etc. why in the world would my Soul, agreeing to life experiences leave when times are tough leaving me behind???? What came to me, perhaps it was because I wanted to die, literally, and perhaps in order for my Soul to survive by leaving this body, it kept me from taking my own life. I am not sure if this is correct thinking as to why the parts of our Soul leave us, I can understand the "young Soul, child age" leaves out of fear, I was conceived and born into a dysfunctional family mentally, sexually and physically abusive, I know exactly why my 4, 6 and 7 Soul child-self's left. Thank you for you both!
@@TheShamansCave Yes, I went through Soul Retrieval years ago, shortly after meeting Sandra in Sedona, I wanted Sandra to do this for me but there was not enough time, so I had a practitioner in Tucson do this for me. When she was finished and shared what her experience was, finding my 4, 6 and 7 year young child-selves I knew exactly what she was talking about. But I can tell anyone, not child abuse, adult abuse and divorce compares to watching loved ones die from cancer before your eyes, nothing compares. I know Renee you spoke of moving forward from how I got there and focus on moving forward, I understand for myself I have self-healing work to do before this can happen. Yes, it is my plan to do this, after I complete Sandra's course I will look into Robert Moss' Soul Recovery course, I am reading his book for now and I understand dream healing, journeying, messages and teachings so with this knowledge I want to become my own Shaman for my Soul. To succeed is to move forward hand in hand with my Soul Spirit. I am getting closer to finding my part of the Soul who left me through my dreams, with Robert Moss' help. I have a wonderful circle of teachers and this I will not question for myself, you Renee, Sandra and Robert ;) I am in good hands!
@@tammycurry4843 Are you signed up for the Spring Equinox Class this week? thepracticalshaman.com/spring-equinox/ I trust you will gain more insight about resistance.
@@TheShamansCave Yes I am can't wait, yes I use to be a healer and the light for others, I agree when we recover we help others and I look forward to being a much more powerful healer and light to come....more so then ever before! ;)
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I woke from a dream of not trusting, sign in to listen to this week's teaching and it flipped to this one. Time, immeasurable, healing, immeasurable also. Thankful 💚💜💚
Beautiful!!! You two are such a gift to us as young Shamans! 👹❤️🔥🥰🦅👁💞🦹🏻♂️🐺
Hi Renee and Sandra...I wanted to mention the use of plant medicine...As a sober and drug-free person for many years I do not partake in any digestion of anything that will alter my mind. I what to express that as it is not necessary to be in an altered state to get guidance, healing etc. I stand strong in my belief and I get guidance and healing without taking any mind-altering plant medicines. I was actually in a Shaman's Circle in NY in my 20's ( i am 59 now) and I did not partake in what the group was ingesting and I had visions, etc. by just tuning-in. The group leader as well, respected my decision . I state this so that others have a choice and there are other ways to hone-in with Spirit, get clarity, healing. Thank you both for this channel...and for your guidance. I like when Sandra says ''Direct Revelation''....and when I hear this I feel...I need to be Clear not altered to receive messages in the varies ways that I receive them. Blessings...Gail ....I Trust that I will be shown what is needed along the way...as a sober-drug-free person on this path.
Thank you for sharing your path, and you are welcome here. I do not judge anyone's path and I respect yours. I have not had a drink in close to 33 years next month. I worked the steps thoroughly and made ever last amends, traveling thousands of miles by plane to complete them. For me, the Medicines of the earth healed scars that no amount of anything else including: Therapy; Ayurveda, Homeopathy, or Pharmacology(which I opted not to do) tended. The plants have been great teachers and always the work is done with a apprenticed medicine people in ceremony. I hope you did not think anyone was suggesting that is the way to spirit @Gail Cullen. There are many paths up the treacherous mountain, and the view from the top is sweet. I work in Treatment and there are children dying by the thousands weekly in our world, and perhaps there is a plant for every season. In fact the FDA is approving some medicine to treat addicts. I hope you stay with us here as this is not what our show is about.
@@TheShamansCave I am aware this is not what your show is about...I just wanted to comment when I heard of the use of Plant Medicines. I, by no means , am coming from judgement. If it appears that way I apologize. I have taken several classes with Sandra, so I am going no where. I am speaking up as I felt guided too. I honor all...When I moved from New York to the West I noticed and was being introduced to people who did not go through a protocol with the use of plant medicines. People who were leading ceremonies where I live who were not trained. I reached out to my Lakota Sioux Ex and He told me to let it go that it was none of my business. That was a challenge yet I did...or perhaps I am still holding on to that... I just did not see a ''Gatekeeper'' and heard advice being given to people who were on medication that was not correct and that could be dangerous to go off of...vs weened. ...I have observed people leading ceremonies who were not observant of people and they became lost and were not able to ''Get Back''... ( there is more to my observation and story) . I gather we all have our own path...and it is different for all of us. I would just like to remind people there is a choice... and all of our brains are different just like the trees' roots...yet, somewhere we all fit into the constellation that is the sky in the eve.
The Shamans Cave... I wanted to let you know that I listened to session 3 tonight in Sandra’s new class and we did a journey about plants... I have a completely different outlook then what I had 2 days ago... what really spoke to me was become into a relationship with a plant...etc. ask if there is a message. Something else that shifted my perspective was that the plants are the teachers to the Shaman. ( hope I got this right) it is so freeing in that it is imperative that we/I get to know a plant and learn from it just by connecting with it and making a commitment. I went to Rose and received a beautiful message . Blessings to you and thank you for being you. ❤️
@@graciegail just saw this message. Thank you for sharing so openly and honestly.
Powerful! My chain, hand rail was loopy, misshapen, dark, dirty, torn - you name it! (Especially in my youngest years.) After the wind healing, it came into perfect alignment, gleaming golden in all its perfection. Thank you both!
Thank you for the talk and journey. I m a cave woman too! Lived 3 years in Hampi caves, in south India, 25 years ago, where my spontaneous visions started! Simply and deeply loving your show! One Love
Thank you for sharing.
This was a really powerful but sometimes sad journey for me but what came through really clearly was that even when the rail was shaky or non existent I was always on solid ground. I think this is the spirit that Sandra was referring to xxxx
I was surprised at the condition of mine. Overall it was pretty solid, but needed some readjustment.
I feel like this was what I needed to hear today. I want to have that trust and be that calm within my spirit when there is a storm around me. To raise that vibration and trust that I'm exactly right where I am. This is my struggle.
Thank you Sandra and Renee. Trust is an issue which has continued to beckon me deeper, one layer (or several) at a time.
Stay strong..
Great little journey. I'm still reeling back from it.....thanks, john
Thank you for sharing.. You have a stronger handrail now.
For me the journey was way too fast and I didn’t have time to go from one decade to the next to the next to the next that quickly .I will probably try the journey at home later when there’s a rattle and a drum and I have all the time that I need, so I think it’s a good idea just I don’t journey that quickly good to see that other people do And thanks for the guidance
Yes, we understand that it may require tending to the journey a second time or even more. We have decided to keep them to a time frame to fit the format.. Please let me know how it goes when you go back on your own @Raven Blakely.
I wonder if this could relate to another life time. I seems to see myself in an empty plan with yaks
So happy to be back with you on this beautiful sunny day in CA. I was wondering about time. It seems as though I need to do the journey's over and over and not getting the results I am anticipating. Can you share with us how often you journeyed and how long it takes to be able to get to where you first trusted that what was happening truly is happening...How many journeys does it take?...LOL Please share this part of your beginning with journeying. Namaste
At the beginning of my journey work, I thought nothing was happening. It was. Sandra spoke yesterday about journeying for 30 years. We need to act as if, until the miracle happens.
@@TheShamansCave Thank you for your response Renee, maybe Sandra can also chime in. Did plant medicine help your to connect to other realms. I know it does but how do you bring that into a journey with out medicine. Thanks so much. I still have not started your Winds course but I will. I have my whistle and have been using it. It's pretty amazing how the wind responds! Hugs!!!!
@@denisemiceli2748 I will mention to her that there are comments here, but I am the tender of this feed; still she said it in her talk yesterday, that journeying everyday for 30 plus years no matter what, is what works for her. It is different for everyone, and your experience is yours and it counts.. There is a word in your thread that you may want to consider. What if you removed your anticipation and expectation and instead work with what does come. I was doing journey work for 10 years before I ever took plant medicine. The reason I did the medicine is there were parts that no amount of other healing helped. It was the Wind Spirits that were the game changer for me. They communicate when I take wind walks.
I love how the wind responds.
@@TheShamansCave Thank you Renee for sharing you wisdom. As soon as I typed anticipation, I knew that is what I was doing instead of trusting. Thanks for affirming.
Yes, I have trust issues, so much I won't have another partner living with me again, and I won't allow anyone to care for my critters so Idon't far from home and it must be a day trip not gone all day. I use to trust "myself" but after my experience with the Dobermans dying of cancer, I felt I failed them and I could no longer trust my healing abilities and I am still in the process of forgiving "me." Yes, I am very hard on Tammy and I get angry with her a lot. With your and Sandra's help this may get easier, I am glad I am not alone with trust issues, it is hard. Yesterday I was very angry with my Soul, it is said the Soul comes to earth in this body with an agreement of experiences, so far (almost 60) 75% of my life experiences is about suffering, I became angry with my Soul when listening to Robert Moss "Soul Recovery" that parts of our Soul leave us when we have trauma, be it emotionally, child abuse, divorces, car accidents etc. why in the world would my Soul, agreeing to life experiences leave when times are tough leaving me behind???? What came to me, perhaps it was because I wanted to die, literally, and perhaps in order for my Soul to survive by leaving this body, it kept me from taking my own life. I am not sure if this is correct thinking as to why the parts of our Soul leave us, I can understand the "young Soul, child age" leaves out of fear, I was conceived and born into a dysfunctional family mentally, sexually and physically abusive, I know exactly why my 4, 6 and 7 Soul child-self's left. Thank you for you both!
I hope you continue on your healing path.. We do recover, and then we help others heal too.
@@TheShamansCave Yes, I went through Soul Retrieval years ago, shortly after meeting Sandra in Sedona, I wanted Sandra to do this for me but there was not enough time, so I had a practitioner in Tucson do this for me. When she was finished and shared what her experience was, finding my 4, 6 and 7 year young child-selves I knew exactly what she was talking about. But I can tell anyone, not child abuse, adult abuse and divorce compares to watching loved ones die from cancer before your eyes, nothing compares. I know Renee you spoke of moving forward from how I got there and focus on moving forward, I understand for myself I have self-healing work to do before this can happen. Yes, it is my plan to do this, after I complete Sandra's course I will look into Robert Moss' Soul Recovery course, I am reading his book for now and I understand dream healing, journeying, messages and teachings so with this knowledge I want to become my own Shaman for my Soul. To succeed is to move forward hand in hand with my Soul Spirit. I am getting closer to finding my part of the Soul who left me through my dreams, with Robert Moss' help. I have a wonderful circle of teachers and this I will not question for myself, you Renee, Sandra and Robert ;) I am in good hands!
@@tammycurry4843 Are you signed up for the Spring Equinox Class this week? thepracticalshaman.com/spring-equinox/ I trust you will gain more insight about resistance.
@@TheShamansCave Yes I am can't wait, yes I use to be a healer and the light for others, I agree when we recover we help others and I look forward to being a much more powerful healer and light to come....more so then ever before! ;)
With new eyes!