@VITEX you have no idea how stupid and ignorant you just proved yourself, and your likes, to be, with a comment like this. you don't even know what you don't know. Australia was beautiful until the likes of you infested it..educate yourselves or puss of pissy!!
Correct it’s unbelievable how government run ummmmm let’s say corporations/businesses almost always stuff up regardless. They are effing hopeless but will always be there to pick up their pay check
Let me shed some light on this problem. The traditional owners keep telling us that they were invaded. So according to International Law they (the invaded) have no say in anything, we the conquerers are the Legal Owners now.
they were invaded, they then didnt have any say in anything for centuries until they started protesting, along with other white Australian citizens, and were eventually granted equal rights, citizenship and land rights by the government.
@@Peter_Thorpe you don't even know how stupid & ignorant you're comment shows you up to be. the only words you did get right here is, TRADITIONAL LAND OWNERS & they do a better job of looking after this beautiful country than you,or any of your likes ever could do....so puss of pissy!! shut up and get an education on said topic, before you gush shyt
I thought aboriginals didn't own land !!..isnt that what they tell us..you don't own the land you are of the land..as is every person born here..black or white..
Wouldn't you expect that the 'mistaken' traditional owners, would have said "Sorry, we are not The traditional owners of this area, please contact The real traditional owners" instead of just turning up?
Should honestly be happy they get any recognition,if the Spanish came here ,instead of the English,they would be a footnote in history,if they're lucky,
@@jimothygreen8879 To become an owner you must first make a purchase...who did you get the land off? How did you pay? What were the terms? Original inhabitants yes...owners no.
Well they have a point. The Victorian Government appointed an interstate group of people from Tasmania and Western Australia as the "traditional owners" of most of the Melbourne area. These people do not live in Victoria and by their own admission their families have not lived in Victoria since the 1820's. This decision was made by an Orwellian Council headed up by Mathew Storey and Rodney Carter. I no it sounds absurd - but it is!
Would somebody please reveal how much money these people are paid for performing these made-up 'ceremonies'. An event at New Farm I attended one year the woman doing the ceremony even told us that she was not from there but was doing it anyway. (for the money I suppose).
"you suppose"... dont be a dickhead. They dont get any money. What have you done for anyone lately besides yourself? easy to throw stones at others when no one is throwing stones at you hey?
@@MrBennyrick77 They don't get paid? According to whom? I KNOW they get paid. Everything involves money these days; attending meetings, performing, everything. I just want to know how much. And as for what I have or haven't done for anyone; Why would I have to answer to you? Are you one of those people who think they own Australia and everybody else has to suck up to you?
Indigenous people don't own the land . Neither does anyone else. " It's like two fleas arguing about who owns the dog they live on. " To quote Crocodile Dundee.
In case you hadn't noticed,NZ is the WOKE capital of the Southern Hemisphere. Who else is more qualified to carry on with this nonsense than a WOKE kiwi?
When is White European Week here in Australia? Where we can celebrate the achievements of white people in Australia or are we going to need more than a week?
@@az-yq3rk : why should any of us want to know about indigenous culture?...do they want to know about my Irish ancestors?...I'm sure they don't....as I don't care about theirs....all I know is that they get $37.5 billion of Aussie taxpayers money annually according to the Productivity Commission, and the Gucci big city blacktavists like Stan Grant, Marcia Langton etc still want more.....you sound like just another middle-class virtue-signalling dweeb....and I live in Sydney's inner West where's a big urban indigenous community......and we get along just fine...cos we're all Aussies...
Many on this council are there for the wrong reasons . They do not have the interest of the majority of ratepayers at heart. It’s only Alex and Marcia that have any kind of logic about them. To be on council you must have actually worked , earned a pay cheque so you know and understand what it means to earn your own finances. Many on this council have never worked a day in their life’s .. let’s hope at the next election the people realise their mistakes and vote for representatives who actually focus wholeheartedly on the community and its ratepayer.
@A rtie Fishal I don't want tax payers funding bs, that's how it concerns me. not just aboriginal related either. but that was what was mentioned in this article. and what's it to you what I am concerned about?
@@jimothygreen8879 please show me where I said anything like that. truly wonderful strawman right there. you should be ashamed of yourself for jumping to such conclusions. and asking yourself why you did.
Im a New South Wales Man from the Sydney region of the Australian Nation , I herby open these parks and pieces of Gym equipment for the use of all and Sundry , These proceedings are now closed , Drinks , finger foods , party pies , calamari rings are now available in the Marshalling area , Bon Appetite
I have to laugh, the oldest civilisation on Earth and they don't even know who owns what, how on Earth are we not going to hurt someone's feelings? But its our fault, of course.
The original Australians could care less than the politicians think they care, and the originals are actually grateful for the infrastructure that came from the centuries of innovation. What they would likely have hatred for is the dealings with China.
I live in Cairns and really they are just left in the streets , bottle shops on every corner and a whole lot of nice sayings like we all hear....the acknowledgement!
Alot are so lost and angry and big groups on the streets ....what do you do ? They have shut down places in the parks so they CANT go and sit were they like to be ....
wouldn't want this to be miscostrued as an sincere apologie from the plantation owners or the robboer barons ! when will we see clean hands in equity !1there must be full disclosure before we can move forward ! just another of there cruel mockery !!
Can we celebrate European ancestry, culture and ethnicity? Indigenous, doesn't mean righteous. The Maori were warrior slavers too. Humans are human. And all our ancestors did things we would never consider. People get conquered, it's that simple. D.M.
Decriminalise to grown your own marijuana and watch how the communities chill. Canberra's crime rate has dropped since marijuana has been decriminalised.
We are all born on the same planet therefore we are all indigenous people. It's like a bunch of fleas arguing over which one owns the dog that they live on.
To be honest most aboriginals don't care that much. At my old workplace they were honouring during the start of a meeting. One of the staff was aboriginal (her ancestors country) said " yeah thanks just hurry up". Some laughed. They still did it. At the end she said if they did it again she'd go walk about mid shift. Another didn't care either way. I'm sure some do.
You couldn't make this stuff up. This fiasco would be laughable if it wasn't so destructive. That said, never underestimate the destructive power of a useful idiot...
Just goes to show how superficial the 'honouring ' is. Nobody makes the effort to even check the details... It's like OH+S...take 5s. You can't demand respect, and what you can demand isn't worth shit.
I think you guys are being a bit mean ridiculing the councillor referring to "Tores' Straits Islanders, as she seemed to say. It is clear she is a New Zealander and may not have lived in Australia that long. How fluent would Aussies be speaking a Maori place name? Be fair.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hopelessly out of touch, let’s just throw the B Team out there, that will do we will at least look like we care.!!! Disrespect at its worst the usual virtue signalling.
Gotta pander to .25% of the populace to show how virtuous you are. "Traditional owner" is such a silly concept. Shall we contact the Turks and tell them they need to honor the traditional owners of Istanbul?
Gotta respect Alexander Lew for voicing this.
Ratepayers should band together and don't pay rates.
Councils are illegal corporations, Shouldn't be paying the fake bills anyway.
@@outback7092 Exactly.
If you don't pay rates they take your home and sell it.
@@Bushkaboo Which is why rates shouldn't exist.
@@Bushkaboo educate yourself. Common law and 1901 constitution. " Councils" are illegal corporations.
The rainbow serpent is going to be really annoyed about this...
@VITEX you have no idea how stupid and ignorant you just proved yourself, and your likes, to be, with a comment like this. you don't even know what you don't know. Australia was beautiful until the likes of you infested it..educate yourselves or puss of pissy!!
I think the serpent is satan......... oh actually he does use the rainbow flag also, now that I think about it.
1/4 of 1% is that the total? Talk about patronising a noisy minority?! How many in the council? Now there's a very, VERY weak minority
Wouldn't expect anything more from any level of gov.
Correct it’s unbelievable how government run ummmmm let’s say corporations/businesses almost always stuff up regardless. They are effing hopeless but will always be there to pick up their pay check
It's time for us to be offended instead of worrying about offending.
Abolish Local Councils- a useless level of government whose functions could be subsumed by State Governments
Three referendums said no to councils but the corporation still forced them on us.
Exactly , just think of the money we'd save .
Agreed. I mean everything is outsourced anyway.
Billions of dollars, yea sounds about right, and no body wins.
Hey Man, I like your cat.
Councils ,just another inept branch of government .
They are all pathetic
Let me shed some light on this problem. The traditional owners keep telling us that they were invaded. So according to International Law they (the invaded) have no say in anything, we the conquerers are the Legal Owners now.
they were invaded, they then didnt have any say in anything for centuries until they started protesting, along with other white Australian citizens, and were eventually granted equal rights, citizenship and land rights by the government.
Are we celebrating all their innovations and accomplishments
@Brett Goym and some bloody good Malcolm Douglas adventures
Shows their real interest in showing any respect…NONE!
Not to sound rude or anything but what achievements? Aboriginal were here for what 60 or 70,000 years yeah? And still in the Stone Age?
So wait, an aboriginal group managed to colonise the traditional land of another aboriginal group? Shall we memorialise this as Invasion Day?
Maybe changing the date will fix it...
and if that invasion was on you and your family? this is actually recent history, you don't even know what you don't know. puss of pissy
@@az-yq3rk and why we wonder it being so recent the traditional owners didn't know..
Sounds like the traditional land owners didn’t know where they belonged either…..
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lol
@@Peter_Thorpe you don't even know how stupid & ignorant you're comment shows you up to be. the only words you did get right here is, TRADITIONAL LAND OWNERS & they do a better job of looking after this beautiful country than you,or any of your likes ever could do....so puss of pissy!! shut up and get an education on said topic, before you gush shyt
@@az-yq3rk LOL!
So the wrong tribe went with the lie? Who is accountable for this crap?
My my, won't Lidia Thorpe jump in on this.
No one too blame but just send money.
'Not wanting to offend"? Like playing the wrong national anthem.
That woman calling them "tors" is a kiwi... WTF. Send her home
@@whoknows3584 yep. What's she doing in that role? That's as bad as that horror show that was the footy woman from NZ.
The traditional owners died a long time ago. We need to stop this bullshit!
Yessssssssss now
@@duddles222 we would know more have not been for u lot. Think before becoming a keyboard warrior jerk
I thought aboriginals didn't own land !!..isnt that what they tell us..you don't own the land you are of the land..as is every person born here..black or white..
Wouldn't you expect that the 'mistaken' traditional owners, would have said "Sorry, we are not The traditional owners of this area, please contact The real traditional owners" instead of just turning up?
And miss out on the appearance fee?
Just another example of greed and/or how much the tribes hate each other.
Just wondering how many aboriginals are paying rates or taxes, they sure don't mind first world services and handouts.
Funny how it always turns out these gestures are never really about the people they're claimed to be about.
Should honestly be happy they get any recognition,if the Spanish came here ,instead of the English,they would be a footnote in history,if they're lucky,
Oh imagine if it were the Chinese here first..
Freedom camping on bare land, doesn't make them owners
so living somewhere for 10,000 years doesnt make you an owner?
@@jimothygreen8879 NO
@@davidgayford what does?
@@jimothygreen8879 To become an owner you must first make a purchase...who did you get the land off? How did you pay? What were the terms? Original inhabitants yes...owners no.
@@jimothygreen8879 In 10,000 years "the owners" have made no improvements and we support them with our taxes.
Well they have a point. The Victorian Government appointed an interstate group of people from Tasmania and Western Australia as the "traditional owners" of most of the Melbourne area. These people do not live in Victoria and by their own admission their families have not lived in Victoria since the 1820's. This decision was made by an Orwellian Council headed up by Mathew Storey and Rodney Carter. I no it sounds absurd - but it is!
Who really cares. Neither of them are owners
Would somebody please reveal how much money these people are paid for performing these made-up 'ceremonies'. An event at New Farm I attended one year the woman doing the ceremony even told us that she was not from there but was doing it anyway. (for the money I suppose).
"you suppose"... dont be a dickhead. They dont get any money. What have you done for anyone lately besides yourself? easy to throw stones at others when no one is throwing stones at you hey?
@@MrBennyrick77 They don't get paid? According to whom? I KNOW they get paid. Everything involves money these days; attending meetings, performing, everything. I just want to know how much. And as for what I have or haven't done for anyone; Why would I have to answer to you? Are you one of those people who think they own Australia and everybody else has to suck up to you?
There are 13 packages.
Start at $800
Go to $6000
@@MrBennyrick77 You are contradicting you’re self pleb. Now go back to sipping fence paint outside 7/11.
@@kristianburrows4667 no dickhead I am not. Maybe you should learn to read.
Indigenous people don't own the land . Neither does anyone else. " It's like two fleas arguing about who owns the dog they live on. " To quote Crocodile Dundee.
nice one!!!
Poor Alex, i can imagine how hard is for your voice to be heard within these "great reset" mafia....
Victoria the incredible state!!!!!
The Mayor of Stonnington, Kate Hely, is a Kiwi.
What kind of council elects a Kiwi to be Mayor?
Maybe that’s why she mispronounced Torres.???
In case you hadn't noticed,NZ is the WOKE capital of the Southern Hemisphere. Who else is more qualified to carry on with this nonsense than a WOKE kiwi?
When is White European Week here in Australia? Where we can celebrate the achievements of white people in Australia or are we going to need more than a week?
Well said. Most likely in the minds of millions of Australians.
I wouldn't be surprised if an inner-city Melbourne council honored the "short black with an extra shot" people. The Cappuccino mob.
Lol🤣
what, do you think you're funny? you don't even know what you don't know. go get some Aboriginal Culture and History education or puss off pissy!
@@az-yq3rk : why should any of us want to know about indigenous culture?...do they want to know about my Irish ancestors?...I'm sure they don't....as I don't care about theirs....all I know is that they get $37.5 billion of Aussie taxpayers money annually according to the Productivity Commission, and the Gucci big city blacktavists like Stan Grant, Marcia Langton etc still want more.....you sound like just another middle-class virtue-signalling dweeb....and I live in Sydney's inner West where's a big urban indigenous community......and we get along just fine...cos we're all Aussies...
I know who the traditional owners are the ones paying rates on the properties. The rest of it is pure stupidity
Yessssssssss 100x100
Many on this council are there for the wrong reasons . They do not have the interest of the majority of ratepayers at heart.
It’s only Alex and Marcia that have any kind of logic about them. To be on council you must have actually worked , earned a pay cheque so you know and understand what it means to earn your own finances.
Many on this council have never worked a day in their life’s .. let’s hope at the next election the people realise their mistakes and vote for representatives who actually focus wholeheartedly on the community and its ratepayer.
One easy way to solve this......the "country" is Australia. No confusion then! That would bring all people together regardless or race, clan or creed.
aboriginal heritage council, and who is paying for their existence? and how much are they being paid?
@A rtie Fishal I don't want tax payers funding bs, that's how it concerns me.
not just aboriginal related either.
but that was what was mentioned in this article.
and what's it to you what I am concerned about?
@@John-gm8ty you dont want aboriginal culture to be preserved...? but we should preserve western culture?
@Ardern Horsehead so only the last 250 years of history matters to you, not the previous 50,000?
@@jimothygreen8879 please show me where I said anything like that.
truly wonderful strawman right there.
you should be ashamed of yourself for jumping to such conclusions.
and asking yourself why you did.
@@John-gm8ty what do you think the aboriginal heritage council does?
Get rid of all Councils...
LOL....give them a bottle shop gift voucher and they wont care less. A step forward for Political correctness.
Pretty much
Achieved absolutely NOTHING in 40000yrs now expects everything for NOTHING
Literally the least important issue in our society 🤦♂️
Im a New South Wales Man from the Sydney region of the Australian Nation , I herby open these parks and pieces of Gym equipment for the use of all and Sundry , These proceedings are now closed , Drinks , finger foods , party pies , calamari rings are now available in the Marshalling area , Bon Appetite
Beer ? 😎
@@paulveenings6861 Yes , Its all you can Drink Mate 👍
@@haroldmclean3755 I’m in . 🙂
I have to laugh, the oldest civilisation on Earth and they don't even know who owns what, how on Earth are we not going to hurt someone's feelings? But its our fault, of course.
"Civilization".
Alexander Lew brilliant assessment
Maybe the councillors should return their own properties to Aboriginals?
So they still fighting with themselves lol
The original Australians could care less than the politicians think they care, and the originals are actually grateful for the infrastructure that came from the centuries of innovation.
What they would likely have hatred for is the dealings with China.
Cool
I live in Cairns and really they are just left in the streets , bottle shops on every corner and a whole lot of nice sayings like we all hear....the acknowledgement!
Alot are so lost and angry and big groups on the streets ....what do you do ? They have shut down places in the parks so they CANT go and sit were they like to be ....
The traditional landowners where the strongest tribe of the time.
Why am I not surprised?
Funny how the Labor and Greens parties British counterparts don't feel the need to acknowledge the 'traditional owners' of British land isn't it?
Picts !?!?!?
@@oliverrowe8805 Caledones, Brigantes, Parisi, Iceni, Dubunni, Cornovii etc etc.
Should this insult not be settled in the traditional aboriginal manner? Spears at dawn.
Wrong smoke ceremony..anything other than WEED..
Maribyrnong City Council has some the highest rates, but nobody cares
They tried to go woke, but went choke instead lol
wouldn't want this to be miscostrued as an sincere apologie from the plantation owners or the robboer barons ! when will we see clean hands in equity !1there must be full disclosure before we can move forward ! just another of there cruel mockery !!
Um um um um um ?
I agree, there is no genuine care.
Such a bunch of hypocrites.
It's sometimes tough to handle the culture rights for the outsiders.
Can we celebrate European ancestry, culture and ethnicity? Indigenous, doesn't mean righteous. The Maori were warrior slavers too. Humans are human. And all our ancestors did things we would never consider. People get conquered, it's that simple.
D.M.
Decriminalise to grown your own marijuana and watch how the communities chill.
Canberra's crime rate has dropped since marijuana has been decriminalised.
I thought the poor councilor was about to faint. I think he may have been looking at himself in the desk monitor.
What tribe did the Boonarong steal the land from ?
We are all born on the same planet therefore we are all indigenous people.
It's like a bunch of fleas arguing over which one owns the dog that they live on.
Which Public Servant with what grudge was responsible for this vexatious action.
Why put rates up?........ it's fraudulent scams
To pay for all this rubbish
What a load of bollocks and money!
Bruce Pascoe is outraged.
Forget Bruce, what about Thorpe?
25per cent of stonnington.
My God they must be rich as stonnington is proper wealthy suburbs
Typical government...couldn't organise a drink in a pub...but only because they are really concerned with filling their wallets...
To be honest most aboriginals don't care that much. At my old workplace they were honouring during the start of a meeting. One of the staff was aboriginal (her ancestors country) said " yeah thanks just hurry up". Some laughed. They still did it.
At the end she said if they did it again she'd go walk about mid shift.
Another didn't care either way. I'm sure some do.
Stonnington Council has an adolescent Mayor!
Hang on. Did the 2 different potential Traditional Owners not know who was the real owners? Or, are they in dispute to who is the Traditional Owners?
Still more percent than elizabeth warren
1:40 "*Using* the correct traditional owners". Says it all.
THE LAND BETWEEN THE PUB & THE FOOTY CLUB .
Same as Mandurah in wa absolutely fkn stupid why on earth put up rates when the country is sinking in debts
Come on Alexander …. How come ya made a complete mess of this?
Haha
How very Imperial of Stonnington Council. Granting land to people
What a load of crap.
What a shock that is.
The mayer doesn't seem to know how to pronounce Torres as in Torres Strait, but then Rowan didn't know how to pronounce Malvern. Oops.
The blonde sounded kiwi....
Sackem,,,
They got flushed down the LOO , forgive the pun .
1/4 of 1% of the area's population amounts to 290 people. How much did this event cost?
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Who did they acknowledge?
Chanel or Gucci?
You couldn't make this stuff up. This fiasco would be laughable if it wasn't so destructive. That said, never underestimate the destructive power of a useful idiot...
Will there be tribal warfare now?
Just goes to show how superficial the 'honouring ' is. Nobody makes the effort to even check the details... It's like OH+S...take 5s.
You can't demand respect, and what you can demand isn't worth shit.
The guest guy acting sus as, vote out blue!
Sweep them of the land most High Yahuah...damn devils
Why do these ignorant people speak in public when they can’t decide what the next word they’re going to say um um um um um ?
I'm white my husband is darken Jung and at all meetings they are selling their land? What's the go?
Well it is all about virtue signalling.
I laughed so hard, I just snorted tea out of nostril.....
Is this young man, Alex scared shitless or …..
I think you guys are being a bit mean ridiculing the councillor referring to "Tores' Straits Islanders, as she seemed to say. It is clear she is a New Zealander and may not have lived in Australia that long. How fluent would Aussies be speaking a Maori place name? Be fair.
Stonnington Council , these people have been here for thousands of years and you still don't their names , So out of touch with the local community .
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hopelessly out of touch, let’s just throw the B Team out there, that will do we will at least look like we care.!!! Disrespect at its worst the usual virtue signalling.
Just virtue signaling. When serious needs of people could be met.
Ahh the racial equality industry is about as genuine as the 'green' industry...
Gotta pander to .25% of the populace to show how virtuous you are. "Traditional owner" is such a silly concept. Shall we contact the Turks and tell them they need to honor the traditional owners of Istanbul?
What incompetents