Carl Fontana, Kai Winding, Urbie Green and Trummy Young play "Undecided" with Dick Hyman, Lyn Christie and Bobbie Rosengarden. 1971 Gibson Jazz Party at the Broadmoor Hotel in Colorado Springs.
It does come down to a matter of taste but here’s my litmus test: which trombonist’s solo holds your interest for its entire duration? It’s the difference between just playing a series of impressive licks vs telling a story. The former is more technique and mechanics while the latter approaches pure art. Total respect for all four of these greats, but by the criteria I described above, I think Carl stands alone.
I'd love to have the skill of one of these great trombonist's, OK that won't happen so i'll just play like Arthur Carr, Frank Rosolino would have fitted in well with these four, great stuff.
JJ SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THIS...HE STARTED THE MULTI-NOTE-FAST-PHRASE MOVEMENT, AND GAVE BIRTH TO ALL THESE GUYS, EXCEPT TRUMMY...HE AND KAI WERE MUSICAL BONE PARTNERS ON SEVERAL CD'S!
+davesenior1 It was Kai, Carl, Urbie and then Trummy; but I only got Kai by process of elimination because he didn't sound himself here IMO. Carl as always was hard to match!
+Gerald Nichols I don't understand your IMO comment - They are all so unique you shouldn't need to think about it. They are all instantly recognizable (as I said, Kai definitely here). Comparing is pointless because they all have something different which I'm sure we could discuss forever. Anyways, I love 'em all. Happy listening...
+Cousin Dupree Wouldn't say Carl was the only one worth a listen, but you've got a point. This just demonstrates how, no matter the tempo, no matter how hard-driving, hard-swinging the tune might be, Carl Fontana always played with an exquisite sense of melody and taste. He also was a master at using the mic, which perhaps is why he never sounded "blatty."
Urbie just passed this week - RIP to all these greats.
Wow! Four giants of the trombone. They are all "the best."
They are leaving a huge body of art that becomes more valuable and enjoyable as the years pass,
Kai first in , right out of the starting blocks fantastic !
Kai, Carl, Urbie, Trummy
how did you manage that?
Thanks for opening my ears to the great Carl Fontana - wow what a phenomenal player, who I had never had a true appreciation for up until now.
Trummy plays a damned nice solo. They each sound typical and individual. Kai, Carl, Urbie, Trummy. I love this!!!
This is great! Really made my day. I think at one point I wanted to sound like everyone of these guys.
This is just a blast! Incredible range and power. Wow.
Great all of them!
Yahoo for these greats!
I bought the double album this is on when it was new. It remains one of the favorites in my record collection.
Fantastic listening
I would have loved to be there to see these giants play in person.
Brilliant!
Ira must've missed this.....
magnificent
It does come down to a matter of taste but here’s my litmus test: which trombonist’s solo holds your interest for its entire duration? It’s the difference between just playing a series of impressive licks vs telling a story. The former is more technique and mechanics while the latter approaches pure art.
Total respect for all four of these greats, but by the criteria I described above, I think Carl stands alone.
this cooks
WOW these guys are as good as Urbie
I'd love to have the skill of one of these great trombonist's, OK that won't happen so i'll just play like Arthur Carr, Frank Rosolino would have fitted in well with these four, great stuff.
JJ SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THIS...HE STARTED THE MULTI-NOTE-FAST-PHRASE MOVEMENT, AND GAVE BIRTH TO ALL THESE GUYS, EXCEPT TRUMMY...HE AND KAI WERE MUSICAL BONE PARTNERS ON SEVERAL CD'S!
Carl also played relatively softly in volume and the other guys are letting it rip more
It's all good! What can I say?
❤
Thanks so much for posting this!!! Great stuff! Any ideas on the order of the soloists?
like because of names
I own the MPS box. Nice test of strengt by a bunch of great trombone players although Trummy is a bit ropy.
Carl was second, who was first?
Third?
Fourth was Trummy.
I'll have to play it again.
Kai and Urbie were not distinctively themselves, I thought.
The first is distinctly recognizable as Kai. The rest speak for themselves too...
+davesenior1 It was Kai, Carl, Urbie and then Trummy; but I only got Kai by process of elimination because he didn't sound himself here IMO.
Carl as always was hard to match!
+Gerald Nichols I don't understand your IMO comment - They are all so unique you shouldn't need to think about it. They are all instantly recognizable (as I said, Kai definitely here). Comparing is pointless because they all have something different which I'm sure we could discuss forever. Anyways, I love 'em all. Happy listening...
DON'T AGREE ON CARL & URBIE...THEY NEVER CHANGED!
You can literally the upstream in Kai's playing.
Fontana's the only one worth a listen. The other three are so blatty and their styles aren't as distinguished.
Cousin Dupree
Are you totaly def.
+Cousin Dupree Wouldn't say Carl was the only one worth a listen, but you've got a point. This just demonstrates how, no matter the tempo, no matter how hard-driving, hard-swinging the tune might be, Carl Fontana always played with an exquisite sense of melody and taste. He also was a master at using the mic, which perhaps is why he never sounded "blatty."
Their styles are clear as a bell. Are you a new listener to jazz trombone?
YOUR HEAD, ESPECIALLY YOUR EARS ARE SHOT!
ANOTHER MUSICAL DUNCE! THEY ARE ALL KICKING ASS!