How anyone can put two bits in a horses mouth is beyond me! In the right hands a curb is much softer than a snaffle. A curb will give a soft signal before it goes harsh, a snaffle is either on or off. To activate a curb to the same degree as a snaffle you have to pull 2-4x the distance.
Exactly what you said at 7:09! Modern dressage riders can’t ride with the extremely light contact required with a curb. If you ride with a curb alone and your seat, the results are incredible! But, they are not the flashy high steps wanted in modern dressage.
First of all let me say i really enjoyed your video. I think the cannons of a curb bit is the fulcrum, the rein rings are the effort, & the curb chain/strap is the load. The reason why you get tongue compression is because the fulcrum is sitting on soft tissue. Horse's pick up and carry the curb bit with their tongue {if trained correctly} to the point that they can hold a curb bit in their mouth without a headstall/ bridle. It's still a lever, but the bridle/ headstall ring is not the fulcrum. Curb chain/ strap adjustment is extremely important and 45 degrees is WRONG. People think a looser curb chain/ strap is kinder on the horse which is not the case.
Hvis is an amazing video🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 well explained and illustrated, I hope this can make a difference, and I will share every time someone says anything about moment in time or the double bridle 🤗🤗 gold 💛
The way the reins are being held in the live horse video shows the curb and snaffle reins crossed. In addition to that, the curb rein is being held thumb toward the bit in a hard grip. The way the double bridle is supposed to be ridden is with the snaffle rein controlled by the ring finger and the curb by the pinky finger while also lightly pinched between the thumb and forefinger. Riding the way shown in the video is used when you need brute force to slow an animal's forward motion and keep them from running away, it's got no place in the finished horse. I also doubt that the rider holding the reins in this manner is going to have any awareness of the force they're exerting. I also think that this kind of force is totally counter-productive, as the horse is going to lose a lot of sensitivity if they're ridden this way and will literally not be able to feel the changes asked for through the mouth.
I thought you where a student and you just hadn't got to the part of your course that explained how bits work. For the love of God tell me you aren't teaching people about bits. Not only are wrong about how curb bits work you are also wrong about how snaffles work. You need to stop and forget what you think you know because it's wrong and start again. To get you started in the right direction the curb bit in your video is a first class lever a single jointed snaffle like you would find in a double bridle is a second class lever. Here is a idea for you get a horse skull, get some bits, and see how they actually work.
It definitely isn’t the design it’s the poor work ethic of most riders and coaches that don’t understand that if you can’t achieve softness and collection in a snaffle there is not a bit that fixes poor horsemanship.
Fantastic presentation. How anyone could use that bit after watching this is beyond me!
How anyone can put two bits in a horses mouth is beyond me!
In the right hands a curb is much softer than a snaffle. A curb will give a soft signal before it goes harsh, a snaffle is either on or off.
To activate a curb to the same degree as a snaffle you have to pull 2-4x the distance.
Exactly what you said at 7:09! Modern dressage riders can’t ride with the extremely light contact required with a curb.
If you ride with a curb alone and your seat, the results are incredible! But, they are not the flashy high steps wanted in modern dressage.
First of all let me say i really enjoyed your video. I think the cannons of a curb bit is the fulcrum, the rein rings are the effort, & the curb chain/strap is the load. The reason why you get tongue compression is because the fulcrum is sitting on soft tissue. Horse's pick up and carry the curb bit with their tongue {if trained correctly} to the point that they can hold a curb bit in their mouth without a headstall/ bridle. It's still a lever, but the bridle/ headstall ring is not the fulcrum. Curb chain/ strap adjustment is extremely important and 45 degrees is WRONG. People think a looser curb chain/ strap is kinder on the horse which is not the case.
Hvis is an amazing video🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 well explained and illustrated, I hope this can make a difference, and I will share every time someone says anything about moment in time or the double bridle 🤗🤗 gold 💛
The way the reins are being held in the live horse video shows the curb and snaffle reins crossed. In addition to that, the curb rein is being held thumb toward the bit in a hard grip. The way the double bridle is supposed to be ridden is with the snaffle rein controlled by the ring finger and the curb by the pinky finger while also lightly pinched between the thumb and forefinger. Riding the way shown in the video is used when you need brute force to slow an animal's forward motion and keep them from running away, it's got no place in the finished horse. I also doubt that the rider holding the reins in this manner is going to have any awareness of the force they're exerting. I also think that this kind of force is totally counter-productive, as the horse is going to lose a lot of sensitivity if they're ridden this way and will literally not be able to feel the changes asked for through the mouth.
I thought you where a student and you just hadn't got to the part of your course that explained how bits work. For the love of God tell me you aren't teaching people about bits. Not only are wrong about how curb bits work you are also wrong about how snaffles work. You need to stop and forget what you think you know because it's wrong and start again. To get you started in the right direction the curb bit in your video is a first class lever a single jointed snaffle like you would find in a double bridle is a second class lever. Here is a idea for you get a horse skull, get some bits, and see how they actually work.
It definitely isn’t the design it’s the poor work ethic of most riders and coaches that don’t understand that if you can’t achieve softness and collection in a snaffle there is not a bit that fixes poor horsemanship.