The Ghosts Above | Renan Ozturk | Sony Alpha Films
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I can't imagine documenting while fighting to breathe and stay alive. Ultimate professional! I'm blown away.
💯 We had the exact same thought! Just unimaginable to do all these things at the same time. It really shows how Renan's passion and mission fuel him, even in the worst moments.
It's not really that hard though.
They had to pin this comment because otherwise ya'll would see the truly horrible ones lmao 😂😂
That’s way you practice
'Blown away' by its' winds . . . or, is it 'bl
The quote in the film about climbing the mountain being selfish becomes abundantly clear when you watch this film.
Amy mountaineering film shows you how selfish these people are. And they all act like all accepting all knowing hippies to compensate
What a crock! At 26:00 describing why he’s there. For his friends, family and us, the viewer. Going looking for a long dead climber is all about those that planed and payed for this trip. Totally selfish, in my opinion.
I'm honestly impressed at how in-agreement this comment section is, and it was my impression as well; that the visuals are unmatched with a score on nearly as high a level, all tarnished by how their plan was so poorly communicated. And then to watch the guy unclip from the rope to roam around looking for the body, CLEARLY against the sherpas wishes. Like...c'mon. They say "not your risk" but that doesn't mean it's not stressful for the sherpas and that they don't internalize that. It brings me back to the Everest special with Russell Bryce where Tim Medvetz wouldn't come down and Phurba Tashi is freaking out on him. To lose someone is personal for the sherpas, if you're going to put them through that they all need to be in unison and agreement.
Side note...narration kinda weak. Had a real "full of myself" tone to it. Some poignant moments for sure but definitely trying to hard at times.
the sherpas are more scared of the Chinese government then someone dying
Climbers were liars. No honor in that.
The Sherpa's have 4 things hanging over their Heads; their lives, their clients lives, the iceberg at Hillary's landing and the Chinese CCP intelligence branch who are monitoring their every movement.
During Irvin's climb, they had just come out of the trench warfare of WWI, China started their invasion of Tibet, and Russia was having their color revolutions. These two were the first westerners, paving the way to trek to the very top of Mt Everest. Later, China wanted to beat their chest to claim the first country to conquer the 26k foot mountain, but they could hold that claim as long as Irvin and his partner's bodies were somewhere up there. China had the incentive to look, retrieve and conceal Sandy Irvin's body because it was widely known he was packing cameras w/tripods. Camera means evidence, to support or disclaim the assertion westerners were the first to get to the top of Mt Everest. Sandy Irvin's partner's body was found in the late 1990, renewing the possibility the CCP may not have found Irvin's body and cameras.
Yeah, narration was SUPER weak. For all their skill in other areas of videography etc, they should've had the respect to hire a professional to do it. Also, the sound mixing was off. Hard to hear the narrative basically the entire time.
Oh yeah, and complete disrespect of the Sherpa people taints this entire endeavor. I'm surprised they thought that this would land any other way with viewers. And, oh, if they DID find Irvine, the reaction would have been the same!! What a waste.
A quest to find Irvine ends up as a summit trip. How exactly did they begin this trip without telling the sherpas what they wanted? Amazing the lengths people will go to hide a personal check box moment as "ooh respect to the Sherpas "
They did and the sherpas said they wouldn't go because they would get blacklisted for attempting a search mission. So instead, they tricked the sherpas into risking their lives and livelihoods by saying they were going just to summit.
Agree. Completely shameful. And they have the nerve to documented.
@@pavelclaudiopatino419It was all about the summit! Nat Geo, threw this Irvine thing, as a bonus! $$$ Chinese , does not allow such routes, to be used! Its like the wild west out there! They catch you , taking a different route, other than, the modern route! There likely to, make you have an accident! Especially, if no one is looking! They would just say, oh, that climber fell! The Chinese, do not want anyone, poking around up there! They have to protect, they were the first ( 1960 ) expedition! Which, I truly believe, they didn't summit! 😂
@@christopherreinsmith1401 I completely agree with your last sentence. Pictures or it didn't happen.
If the Sherpas don’t reach the summit during a season their ranking goes down which might mean less pay or unemployment next season. It also looks really bad if your tourist dies. They just want to go up, come down, get paid and go home. It’s a job
Visually, inexplicably brilliant! However, "It's his risk" "you don't have to take it with him" yeah, but he's up there with you and responsible FOR you, innit? The last bit killed the mood ngl
Those dudes are very experienced, the Sherpa’s were a formality
The tone in the closing reveals the monk was right when he said climbing is about greed.
Perhaps for some.... Climbing is an adventure.... and adventure is a wonderful part of life.
@@sergeantcrow but it is greed because that ambition and adventure enriches you and you alone, particularly when you pursue it at others' expenses like this group did
I’m pretty sure the monk was right!
@@sergeantcrow I came back to watch it again. I checked in on my comment. I thought it was important to say that I have climbed over 400 mountains, including a couple in Tibet. I've been to the Ronbuk monastery.
@@SolaceEasy Thanks.. That's impressive.... and a lot of valuable experience and education.
"Climbing is also a form of greed"- Tengboche rinpoche.
BUDH
That is not "climbing" that is disturbing!
Climbing is selfish, self centered and narcissistic, I love it. What a dichotomy!!!
@Himey Lemkin Look up Wim Hof...
@@georgeshaw8925 What "climbing".....climbing not exist, only pendulums of idiots bipeds! So pathetic and naive idiots that without ropes, without sherpas, without jacks, without ladders, without ropes, without oxygen and without nails, you don't climb a single meter! Failed fools!
This documentary has stunning cinematography and photos, but, let me get this straight - the team's main objective was to search for Andrew Irvine's remains but they did not disclose this to the Sherpas until the last minute. And in the end, everyone went for the summit instead of spending their valuable time searching for the body.
To be fair, they had no way of disclosing the intentions up front as the Chinese will not allow any searches for the "old English".
Yeah, I think another issue is that once you release that info about the most prestigious/high-profile find on Everest (Irvine's body), you'd be flocked by other teams trying to get in. It was why the 1999 Mallory find was so secretive, they didn't want anyone on the mountain (apart from the small team of highly experienced climbers) to know they were looking for Mallory. Even when Conrad found the body, he used their code 'eat some Snickers' over the radio, which meant Mallory had been found.
@@arneboveng3756 that's not true. that's the Sherpas' jobs.
If that had been the main objective they wouldn't have wasted time summiting. Looks more like a ruse to get Nat Geo to foot the bill to me, but of course I can't say for sure.
@@skullsaintdead Fascinating! Thanks the info...
The camera work and cinematography are amazing! And 34:15 who knew there were birds so high up? But hiring the sherpas under false pretenses and then intentionally disobeying the sherpas was such a serious ethical breach. I’m astounded that people who respect the mountain and respect the sherpas could treat them this way.
That’s a Raven most probably. Only they can survive at such low temperatures and fly at high altitudes. Ravens are also incarnations of dead mountaineers according to some climbers. They are also ominous, protecting climbers.
I did not enjoy this, I have to be honest. No respect for the sherpas. No respect even for their own lives.
@@veronicafernandez7211 Those are two separate criticisms but with regard to
the second one, undoubtedly the searchers wouldn't respect themselves if
they didn't make the effort and keep their word to themselves and others.
they use the lift that the mountains create to conserve energy
The birds feast on the dead climbers.
I found myself nodding at the beggining when this guy talked about respecting the sherpas, only to be dissapointed towards the end when they did anything but that.
All mountaineers seem to be insufferable middle class w⚓s.
SERIOUSLY
I almost went off on you. At firsts I thought you were being offensive towards the Sherpas
Just when I was thinking I would be the only one feeling this way💔, I came here and read your comment first
People make out these Sherpa’s to be magical beings. They have an advantage being born and live at altitude. These guys are normal people they aren’t saints some beat their wives some are hThey make 6 figures a year and complain they don’t get paid enough.
Talk about ironic I feel bad for watching this beautiful film. These sherpas deserve a lot more recognition for putting up with stuff like this.
Putting up with what? He took his own risk.
Showed considerably more respect for 10 foot of rock and snow at the top of a mountain than he did for the lives and livelihoods of the team of Sherpas that he proclaimed to be the 'champion' of.
Ego rules
Couldn’t agree more. Typical elitism.
Privileged ignorance,
You have no clue who you're talking about. The irony, People talking about privilege and what someone hasn’t done for the people. Maybe go look him up first
He went something like 20 feet off the trail for a short rest to pay personal homage to an historic figure he had studied. It didn't even look dangerous to me. This whole kerfuffle, rife with indignation and judgmental moralizing, is way too overblown. IMHO.
We are a strange species, capable of honor and deceit and both at the same time. This film shows that well, and I appreciate that the narrator at least admits his on hubris and infidelity at the end. Every film or piece I've watched on Everest has that same reality, that when the quest for the mountain starts most begin to think of themselves and themselves alone.
I've been a fan of Ozturk and Synott, but this felt off. If the goal was to investigate for Irving's body, then at the very best, this was a poorly organised mission, and at the worst, a plan where deceit was the intention all along. Troubling.
it's particuarly puzzling given that someone was obviously flying a drone... why not use the drone to search target areas for irvine's body?
@@ordinaryhand so true
* I R V I N E
@@MeanGeneSanDiego people make mistakes, settle down.
@@ordinaryhand the body is most likely buried or else he would have been found by now. Only Mallory's upper back was visible and the sun and weather had bleached it white.
Beautiful documentary, highlighting the stupidity of these rich climbers as the epitome of an 'antagonist' working hard to undo the 'protagonists' work (e.g. Sherpas). This documentary shows more about "greed" (as the elder Sherpa put it) and the somewhat warped / paradoxical understanding of these climbers, thinking they are helping shed light of the problem, but blinded with the fact that they *were the problem* that they are trying to highlight.
Bitter sweet at the end as it is visually stunning, with great cinematography and incredible storytelling. However, the visuals gets skewed by their overall message.
Rich climbers? 😂 Renan was a dirtbag climber for like 2 decades.. you’re probably not a climber so I’ll just let you know, dirtbag=homeless
Well said
Absolutely well said. 💯
Well said...breathtakingly well said
My brother was a mountaineer in the making and he sat beside me and taught me a lot about it . Last year on october he lost his life in an avalanche caused in Uttarkashi india while his advance mountaineering training. Ever single time i come across this , it breaks me with all the memories i have attached to him. I just want to thank the team for producing such a gem and the documentary will continue to grow with me till my last breath.
I'm so sorry for your loss
condolence
@ankurdhar_Im so sorry you lost your brother. You have some bittersweet memories to hold forever.
How tragically sad, I’m sorry. 😔
At 10:06 , Saying “this is the hardest thing they’ve ever done”, meanwhile their Sherpa guides are lugging all their gear and extra amenities on their backs while burning twice the amount of energy just for their scavenger hunt
😂👏🏽👍🏾
Modern day slaves 😢
Yes if you want to climb a mountain you have to have little brown men to carry your clogs
Not if the mountain is smaller.@@juliesheard2122
Well ya, because they’re climatized much better and it’s their job
“I ground myself by thinking about my family & friends” ... but you deceived the sherpas & their family & friends
👍
He is a champion of indigenous people lol,
This is filmed and photographed so well. Having said that, I’m super disappointed that the team waited until they were on the mountain to disclose the true goal of the climb. How selfish, disrespectful and manipulative.
Yeah, it was a bit disappointing they explained that quite late. Was there a reason for this?
Perhaps they would have refused to go if they knew
I totally agree that is was disrespectful and manipulative. Bad mountain vibes and etiquette.
The Chinese would not have approved it 😐
Yes, disrespectful and manipulative, but I appreciate how they at least worked with the Sherpas on a compromise and (except for the guy at the end) respected the Sherpa's judgment and position on the climb.
His voice is like being in the death zone. And if the Sherpa tells you, “no, no, no,” and you still go, they should leave your disrespectful self on the mountain.
…..and they lied to the sherpas
100% agreement on both counts.
🌬️🌪️🌹
They should be aware of the ghost
I literally sat here for thirty minutes with my mouth open because I did not anticipate the pictures to be this breathtaking. Piece of art.
The garbage or the mountain?
@@snowturd The eye of the beholder. 😉
Visually stunning, but the film and the expedition I think unintentionally highlight almost everything that is wrong with modern-day mountaineering...
Stunning is correct! I was thinking the same thing. Especially when he said, “not only were we risking our livelihoods, but also theirs”...
He was discussing few truths in the best possible way 🙏🏻🌏
okokomm
hj
Kmmm
Definitely not unintentional.
@D. W. llll
21:26 "These guys are heroes"
Proceeds to deceive them, and put all of their lives in risk for personal glory.
👍
some of them are the best mountaineers on the planet. The sherpas shouldn't even be with them but thats what the Chinese government requests. And thats how the sherpas get paid
@@snsproduc I thought this was Nepal's side
@@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001 It's Nepal's side. The China thing is just to justified some lies and deception to the Sherpas so they don't feel guilty if any of the Sherpa died.
@@nutzhazel it's the Chinese side. The north side. Mallory and Irving climbed from that side as it was in pre war Tibet and British
This shows the most stunning images I have ever seen of Everest. Amazing cinematography and photography.
the documentary is more about own summit climb rather than exploration for the lost one,
Is it just me or did they wax about respecting the Sherpa people for 30 minutes only to blatantly deceive them about their plan?
Yupppp
I can see why this may seem that way. I asked myself the very same question. But what the sherpas wanted was to summit while Renan and Mark did not care about that since they had other plans with this expedition. I didn't know this detail before seeing this either but app the sherpas can get blacklisted by the Chinese government if they don't summit. So the fact that Mark went off trail did not go against their plans even though the sherpas were not happy about it. The biggest problem the sherpas had was to not summit which ultimately they did. That's my interpretation anyway
they're also some of the best mountaineers on the planet. And its bad regulation that they have to be there with the sherpas (they should be on their own without the sherpas but the Chinese government is dumb). Their much more experienced than the sherpas.
@@alexsavulI think the point was that the sherpas wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t for them in the first place. It’s pure negligence only going up some of the way knowing that they had to go all the way.the fact that they did summit doesn’t negate the initial Lack of respect those men had for their lives.
Yes, yes, that’s exactly what they did.
‘I just had to go.’
In the end, it was all about him.
I think they were oxygen deprived when they decided to post this
This is one of the most beautiful, cinematic everest video I have ever seen, but the moment they went againest sherpas orders I instantly lost all respect for that team. Sherpas who are risking their lives and livelihood for the teams safety, but get ignored just in ordered to maybe change something in the history books, I'm happy he found nothing, leave history where it belongs....
Nobody is on that mountain against their will.
Well put.
@@jonde4445 What kind of a job are you in?
@@jonde4445 the Chinese threatened to blacklist those sherpas if they stayed with their original plan. There is more to this story than is being told to the public.
@@zach_jameson_ How so?
Selfish and self absorbed, disrespected the Sherpas. Took 20 min to peel off and check "the spot" out. You guys are part of the problem on Everest and proved it.
Mmmmmm - cup of tea and a kit kat in the Death Zone and if it all goes horribly wrong at least i'll recycle into a back rest for fellow ' adventurers '. Summit Fever ? Sounds and looks like a very expensive form of self harm to me.
@@twiglet2214 lolll
"I won't stand on the top of the mountain out of respect, but I'll use this dead body as a back rest."
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Is it me, or the ending with the fading footage of the sunset with the music makes it so surreal, almost touching the underworld of mysteries, haunting death, like the line between life and death blurs… Dang… pretty effective ending (and gorgeous scenery) to a relatively purposeless movie.
Absolutely beautiful cinematography, and photography under such adverse conditions. For such a dangerous and rigorous expedition, it was disheartening that the Sherpas weren't fully aware of the teams intentions, considering the vital role the Sherpas play as team members. I appreciate the intention of highlighting the valuable role that Sherpas play in an Everest expedition, so it was rather confusing to see how some of their concerns were disregarded by the crew.
Couldn't agree more, that's what was going through my head too. It was a real unprofessional expedition without the team aligned on a common goal. That's how people die on expositions and all for the glory to be the ones who found his camera.
Sounded like a bit of a mistake. At the end of the day didn't it amount to just a few minutes?
I was confused in general about this--because the whole "plot"/"purpose" of the film really ended up being one guy climbing like 20 feet in a different direction, which was barely even filmed? Was that really worth disrespecting the Sherpas for?
@@gbaker125 Yes, quite the search...🙄....
@@gbaker125 You could not have said it better. ;) Overall, the cinematography was amazing, but the storytelling lacking. The movie became a strange, self-involved pity-party "Oh I'm so serious and this is all so dramatic", and the attempt at poetry became just randomness. If they wanted to emulate Terrence Malick... this is not how he does it. That being said, the visuals are exceptional, stunning.
Also, he definitely did want to be there. No one forces you to go by gun point.
The climbing of Everest has become an obscene spectacle. 90% of these people don’t belong up there.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was higher. The number of people actually making 8000 meter climbing the end of a long apprenticeship of decades in the mountains.
Guess you've never had climbing fever before ..
100% of these people.
100% of these people don't belong up there
@@kdavis4910 could say that about the moon but we still went there..
Thankfully my obsession with everest and mountain climbing is confined to documentaries books and images. Gratitude to the sherpas and the climbers who share their journeys 🧗♀️
Incredible cinematography, unfortunately completely undermined by the deceit of the crew and their lack of morals - they themselves epitomise the elitism and selfishness of many mountaineers.
Why exactly?
I agree 110%
They communicated with sherpas and changed their route, they could not disclouse their plans from the start dew to the restrictions China imposes on every climber. They could be denied to climb at all. Maybe watch the whole dicumentary and analyse the info before speaking up?
@@ar_tseg653 I watched it all, they acted like spoilt children, thanks.
Morals? From people that go to climb Mt Everest?
Why didn't they tell the sherpas the plan from the start? Could it be because they KNEW the sherpas would not be on board if they did.
Created drama to enhance the script.
Very mixed feelings about this. Outstanding cinematography, footage, pictures and beautifully finished with a haunting music score. For the whole project to be tarnished by an absurd decision to drop off the route while descending to "search" an area having previously been told by the sherpas this was an ill advised plan. As the senior sherpa said climbing has become incredibly selfish and the crew very clearly reinforced this opinion by disregarding their own safety, and therefore also directly the safety of their sherpas. Very skewed logic and a damning indictment of just how far the media will go for an exclusive.
Well said
Yup, dangerous vanity project dressed up in ridiculous verbosity.
Totally agree.
Agreed. This left a bad taste in my mouth.
Totally agree
You rocked my soul…. May the mountain Gods protect you… always .. Arkadash … respect from Yunanistan
Climbing is about greed - the best learning from the video which you guys proved it to be true!
The Sherpas deserve more respect than what was shown by this climbing party. Stunning photography, and intriguing history... but planning and group decision making should be paramount in a climbing party. Instead, this team opted to bait and switch the plan, only to disregard the objections of the Sherpas to that plan. A deceitful endeavor, highlighted by Renan's narration acknowledging the disrespect to this region and people in climbing Everest... only to proceed with their selfish objective despite these observations. Considering the experience of those involved: why was this planned in such a dishonest manner.
I've always wondered who reached the top of this mountain 1st and to think that George's remains were found 75 years later, absolutely amazing
I have no proof but I think climbers knew where Mallory's body would be. Until then no one had the initiative to find him.
I've always had a fascination with the Himalayan mountains. And while I would LOVE to see the view from the peak of Everest, the stars, the clouds below me, the 360 sunset.... If I was able to go, I would not. I respect the mountains and I will enjoy them from afar.
the more I watch this now the more I realize how selfish, unprofessional, arrogant and dramatized this project is.
Quote: "Launching to solve this mystery, and maybe even summit" shows how their own agenda was always the primary focus, but they never truly shared this with the Sherpas. This shows such a shear disregard for their safety and so much disrespect toward the Sherpas, even after stating how they were a "champion of indigenous communities" and wanted to "cast them in a non-cliché manner".
They also did not leave for their summit push until around 10:30 which is much later than what the Sherpas typically aim for, and didn't look terribly organized doing so.
The claims about 'dumpster diving' and scrounging for random food are also ridiculous, as they are clearly eating pre-packed food that they or the Sherpas would have brought - just trying to be so dramatic about the whole thing.
Great cinematography, exceptionally poor show of character.
Could it be that trying to solve this mystery was only a smoke screen for their wish to summit? That maybe they just came up with this alleged "detective agenda" in order to not have to admit to having the same profane dream that other mountain-tourists have, that is to just once be at the highest point on earth and to snap a picture of themselves?
You summed it up well 👍😏
Extremely disrespectful of the Sherpas who risk their lives every day. Absolutely disgusting
LOL, bet that the comments below werent what the company/producers/crew/climbers were expecting. Bravo for the call out!
A visually stunning tribute to the hubris of man
The line of climbers to the summit has become obscene. Guides are chasing dollars. People who should not be there are buying fame, thrills and sometimes death . Sherpas are poorly treated, abused and underpaid. Most of all is the huge amount of waste being left behind with no concern at all. This had become an insane activity.
Absolutely incredible film..the world's highest dump just below the worlds highest graveyard..such incredible selfish honesty
To me they're wrecking the mountain. Where is the dignity in that?
@@cindykauffman8294 well every bit of that which is left behind will eventually return to the earth from whence it came.
@@cindykauffman8294 I agree. Every scrap taken onto the mountain should be removed. In Europe you often pay a city tax as a tourist. Why not tax climbers for a clean up.
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r Cleaning up everest is not an easy task. Hence why it's scattered with stuff.
None of that garbage is hurting anything. It's just metal and plastic sitting on rock. No different than if was in a landfill or storage shed.
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This is the most incredible photography and filmography I have ever seen captured of the Everest area and summit.
Stunning cinematography but the attempt to anchor the narrative into a search for Sandy Irvine was weak.
Why was that week to try and anchor the narrative in the reason why they were there in the first place or ever at all????? I’m not sure what you presume as the shadowy underlying purpose since they all had vowed to never go there and climb that mountain let alone summit because it was ethically against everything they believed- which is the foundation of the ultimate narrative in which they become the thing they hate the most. So of course the reason they were there was to find him and that’s the only thing that was able to bring them there at all after years and years of never wanting to or needing to climb that mountain. It wasn’t important to them personally to summit.
For people with the experience you have in Nepal, and Tibet, and your knowledge of Sherpas, why on earth did you not tell them of the expedition goal from the outset. I'm amazed you didn't. Were you genuinely respecting those Sherpas?
Lol i feel like the whole plot was just to make a everest summit video, but they tried to twist it into something bigger for the views and to be ”politically correct”. They just wanted to summit, one guy took a of turn of like 20m from the route, which was barely even filmed... i don’t think they had any REAL intention of finding the body from the get go. Just a way to make a summit video more interesting.
@@Zezam_ definitely not, these guys have way more impressive summits in the bag then everest
Interesting supposition.
It not being an empowerment group from the start is a leadership failure of this expedition imho.
@@Zezam_ even more insane...this is only one of the docs of this expedition. Lost On Everest, which i think is the main doc for Nat Geo technically, spends over half the run time talking about Irvine and consulting with an Everest historian who spent *years* researching where Irvine's body could be. i was simply stunned to watch the last 30 minutes of them focusing on the summit and not even having a plan for a search. i almost wish it had always been an excuse to summit, but if it was, it was insanely cruel to a lot of people.
Fantastic camera work which really shows how incredibly difficult the route is, and that Mallory and Irvine went up there by themselves with only the most minimal equipment. Either they summited or they did not, and perhaps if they ever find Irvine's body and his camera, the mystery will be solved. But whatever the truth is, obviously they died of fatigue and altitude sickness and the cold on the way down. There is no way they could have returned alive.
Mallory died from a fall, maybe Irvine was seen by the 60 Chinese expedition, maybe he wasn't, I doubt they'll ever find him now.
Wow. This cinematic and those camera shots are absolutely mind blowing. So beautiful, so scary, so in awe. Thank you for this 🙌
Lovely cinematography but I was really surprised. There was a lot of talk by the climbing team about how much they respected the sherpas, but then they didn't communicate properly and deliberately took certain actions that put the sherpas and their livelihoods at risk. Maybe the full story isn't included in the film but doesn't seem very respectful to me.
I totally agree. Disingenuous.
I was thinking the exact same. Seemed a little gung ho about their mission. Seemed a bit novice. I wonder if it was an idea about not being there that was decided afterward, and while filming was more focused on actually wanting to be pro climbers striking on a mission on their own.
Claims to know Sherpas very well. Gets surprised when they object all not summiting idea. Seems strange
@Terry Johnson this was after the lie of omission
@@Cody-gr2kc If that's what they wanted, that summit is very very very far from pro mountaneering: jumaring to the summit with oxygen tanks carried in the back of a bunch of sherpas. Not piolet d'or stuff precisely. The shots were beautiful though
That ending timelapse is probably the greatest I've ever seen! WOW
100% I felt like it was a lord of the rings trailer lol
Stunning. Other worldly.
I was wondering how they kept the camera locked in place for that whole timelapse !!!!
@@vidiot57 there's a Tibetan monk that lives up there and all he does is hold the camera for the tourists. It's 100% exploitation.
Bruh Sony documentaries are off the charts! Great background music, story and the most insane and important aspect of Sony, their heart stopping snapshots! Sony never fail to deliver. Amazing.
Sherpas are 5 times tougher then navy seals...
Doubtful! Interesting that you felt a need to make the comparison though!
Apples to oranges
this film has completely summarized the dishonesty of some of the cast and crew. amazing. and sony being a part of it as well.
wait you didn't tell the Sherpas what you were doing until a couple weeks in???
idk that doesn't sit right for me
Idk it seemed like more of a request to me, and what better way to convey your respect than in person. I could see the film going the other way by respecting the Sherpas declination of the idea and highlighting that storyline.
@@westonzor how.. they litterly risked other people lives to promote a camera and get a shot...
and not enough food, no spare regulator.......
they gave the sherpas the ultimate say in the end which is extremely fair.
@@westonzor You are manipulating the word respect to suit yourself. Despite the flowery rhetoric from this guy no respect was shown to the sherpas either at the time of hiring or at base camp or let's not forget after the summit.
I think the documentary was to find Irvine's belongings but in the end they just went to summit and finished it off
I was thinking the same.
The cinematography was incredible though.
The dramaturgy is insane; that's the level of filmmaking!
A clear picture of priviledge complemented by the usual soundtrack of almost understanding the working man's efforts. While the pictures are beautiful and so forth, this does clearly highlight that even this well-intentioned documenter is really serving one master: his own fame amongst friends and his followers. Maybe I have it wrong here mate but this was deceit. It has ruined a beautiful picture.
Nope, you don’t have it wrong. Deceit and lies throughout. Pure lip service.
I couldn't agree more. Massive ego trips disguised with the "gentle soul" trope. I'm beyond tired of the mountaineer narrative : You chose to get there ; assume the consequences and shut up. You live, you die, it's on you ; the drama is yours. If you make a spectacle of it, you're an egomaniac who wants to profit from your own suffering or your friends'. Change the tone : Show the pictures and don't douse the whole thing in melodrama.
Here come the Americans with their Nikons and drones. More Woke mountainneering blathering about Life/Death and My Famous Career. You guys just don’t get it.
But the documentarian said that he never even wanted to be there! Right at the end he said it. Sure, literally everything else was a total lie, but he never wanted to be there, believe that.
@@phpn99 I agree. I'm not a climber, but I've done enough to have respect for the strength, stamina, and will power to climb Everest. Even still, I was fatigued by the incessant drone of music and monotoned narration, and confused as to how one supposedly reveres the lives at risk while remaining determined to put them at risk. And even hurdle corpses on the way.
I wish this would have simply been a story of respecting Sherpa during a summit attempt. The cinematography is unlike anything I've seen and stands on its own. Instead, we have a video that disrespects the Sherpa people, disrespects the spirit of the mountain, and perpetuates the stereotypes of western climbers at Everest.
"Western climbers" are the only reason the Sherpa are there in the first place.
@@jonde4445 I believe so, too!
Absolutely stunning film. Beautiful and scary at the same time. One of the best things I've ever watched.
The hypocrisy of these film makers is the most overwhelming thing about this film. Paying lip service to the devastation caused by the commercialisation of Everest and the vulnerability of the Nepali porters only served to highlight their wilful contribution to everything they were supposedly against. They added to the crowds and litter on the mountain that season and put undue, unfair, unagreed risk on their supporting Nepali porter team. Such ego, arrogance and disrespect in the name of a search that could have been conducted with a drone is shameful.
The words and actions in this movie are so polar opposite. If respect for the mountain and Nepali people are genuine values they hold, I only hope they can learn from truly reflecting on this documentary and see it for what it really is.
Watched a lot of mt Everest videos and Documentary, feel like these are the best scenes ever taken on that mountain.
Hey, Thank you!
I totally agree 🎉🎉🎉
Then, you have not watched John Gupta
Beautifully filmed but ultimately dishonest. Also, it's appalling that Mount Everest has become a giant waste dump due to the sheer number of people who sign up for expeditions.
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Glad u said that,I saw those cans and other garbage everywhere.
@@ClaraLV878 I understand one could smell the stench from human excrements accumulating on a daily basis without disposed of properly.
@@Nugliscious yes and it seemed like its becoming Great Wall of China,bodies everywhere
I have yet to see a video on TH-cam re how they clean up the mountains or what plan is in place.
awesome Docu about my Fatherland!!
keep the mountains clean
The only exclusive documentary which shows the real dangers in climbing Everest with beautiful and most stunning photography n vidoes... hats off to your team...
Sherpas carry 3 times the weight in gear of the climbers, in the death zone, while babysitting megalomaniacs all to satiated a glorified bucketlist item. Wow.
If it weren't for them, they'd have no money, it's like a tourist attraction, and they live of wealthy people. If sherpas didn't help, there would be very few people trying, and no job for sherpas
@@lukamajetic1290 Sherpa is an ethnic group, not a job. They were there long before mountaineers showed up. Not suggesting you’re completely wrong as there is some truth to why you say for SOME, but you definitely don’t know much about the Sherpa people by that statement.
Thats colonialism for you
Yes, they are quite incredible!
Agree... the community of mountain climbers talking about beauty, environment, are nothing more than abusers of a local ethnic group, corrupting them with money, polluters of a desolate area, all for a selfish goal... and we are to admire these people? It's not as if they are exploring the unknown. The status of exploration has already been awarded... It's for a personal trophy - status and recognition in the community...
While the cinematography is beautifully done, I can't help but express my disdain on how the sherpas were treated. Also I feel that this expedition was nothing short of a dead end. Why risk your life trying to find a man that has been missing nigh 100 years? Mallory was found 20 years ago by pure chance. The mountain has claimed many thrill seekers, and the sherpas that guided them. We should all respect the mountain, and those whose lives it has claimed, by leaving it alone. It is not worth risking more lives searching for someone who is long gone, and who is part of Everest for eternity. Sorry for the gripe, that's just my feeling toward all of these expeditions being carried out by these thrill seeking millionaires looking for glory, and risking their lives, and other in the process.
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Spot on, friend.
To try to solve one of the biggest mystery of modern era? Btw, likely in 2024 a british expedition will take place for the 100 years anniversary. Don't think they will find anything (Irvine didn't fall with Mallory, so can be everywhere on the mountain) but certainly I don't blame them.
Mallory wasn't found by chance. It was a dedicated and well resourced search team that found him. Irvine was most likely been removed by the Chinese sometime between 2000 and 2008. After initially finding him and the camera in 1975, which they took and are rumoured to have botched the development of.
If no one went climbing anymore the Sherpa’s won’t be happy like u think my friend. That is almost all of their income
Beautiful documentary full of contradictions. Nobody is perfect and life is not always fair. It's refreshing to see honesty even when it seems harsh. Brilliant stuff.
When you can see the curvature of the earth, THEN YOU HAVE PROVEN YOU HAVE BEEN THERE! Unless someone can prove otherwise. This video is awesome and real!
I'm still having difficulty breathing and I'm in my living room. Incredible. Just incredible.
the most incredible thing is seeing a raven at 8300 meters. all these guys with space suits and oxygen and the raven is just flying like meh... thats insane
It's a Gorak
@@sharktooth2888 No it’s not, it’s a common Raven.
One of the very best films I've seen of Everest. Raw and powerful.
I feel like I just watched a mad fusion between an Everest doc and Dune(film) large, raw, human and incredible.
This is incredible. The last 30 seconds is the most powerful scene I've ever seen.
visually brilliant but as an expedition its was dishonest. You disrespected the Sherpas and I hope people remember that in the future
Well said.
taking the risk annihilates the fear , the more cautious one is the more are the chances of getting back.
U X illegally occupying it, what else.
@@user-np1vy7oo2h don't hero's on mountains just folk you can trust and you obviously don't know any better
Big applause to Logan Nelson! What an epic soundtrack!
No words for this film. Every second absolutely stunning. Everyone should watch this.
What a load of overblown hype!
Quick tip, listening on mute greatly increases the quality of the video!
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Wish I'd seen your comment before I watched it. Had to work to make out what was being said due to the "mood music" in the background. Probably
only heard about 1/4 of what was said.
@@KSparks80 I know. Loll at mood music...
@@KSparks80 i dont care for the music.
Rarely comment but I just can't believe the disgusting behaviour from the Sony team, the sheer arrogance and lack of awareness in springing a change of plan at 0 hour on the sherpers and then when finding out how against it they were, went and did it anyway. Honestly such hypocrisy after talking about what a raw deal the sherpers get they wilfully put them at additional risk by going off plan. They epitomise the worst of the this sort of tourism, the tone at 26:30 is disgraceful, as if the team have no comprehension of the potential consequence of their decisions on other people. The team and Sony really need to have a long hard look at themselves and the impact they are having on others as a result of their actions. Truly despicable.
Really, the most stunning film I’ve seen in the last 10 years.Music,narration, writing for the screen, editing- Breathtaking! Thank you for featuring this on UTube.
If you've ever been on a guided climb you would know what these guys did is just dangerous and selfish. Ruined the whole film for me. Next time have respect for the sherpas lives, they aren't your pawns.
it was probably not that dangerous - the dude behind the camera was part of the 3 person group who summited Meru for the first time; Everest is a cakewalk in comparison. ie. these guys know how to handle themselves out there and likely did not need guides.
sony Artisan photographer Renan Ozturk takes some amazing photos in some amazing places. But geez he also knows how to hype some drama. hes certainly having fun in that voice over booth
This is an amazing film. The music should be removed entirely, as the images and natural sounds convey the emotion the cinematographer is attempting to demonstrate. It simply distracts, instead of complementing this fantastic piece.
best documentry on everest
This film is beyond hypocritical. You risked the lives of these poor Sherpa for your benefit.
Idk man I think they screwed up but I think that is the point. “climbing has become selfish”. They’re proving that sherpa’s point with their own failure of an expedition. Proving the greed that is climbing these days. I think it is a warning.
Lol. Climbing Everest with Westerners is Sherpas main and sometime only one job source.
No retraining programs in this area.
Isn't that what every single climber on Everest does on every single climb?
Utter respect for the camera crew .
No one shoots film/video like Renan. He's simply the best.
EDIT: Sundogs from 34:22.
Fantastic photography! Don't think I've ever seen better. Great job Renan! You were awesome. Same for your trip on Meru.
Lack of communication from the beginning ......why wouldnt you explain the goal from the beginning to the sherpas.....and why would you assume they would be happy not to summit.....they are just as determined and ambitous as any western mountaineer but more enduring in every way.
Very beautiful cinematography and masterful storytelling but I feel like the sherpas were deceived and taken advantage of in this film. Ironic and hypocritical
@U X lol this guy thanks for the laugh buddy
The best documentary I have seen on himalaya.. The cinematography, direction amidst death in every step is mind blowing.. Hats off to all the crew
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Absolutely gorgeous. Shout-out to the Kodak camera(s) buried on that mountain.
Unbelievable how climbers are capable of taking all that stuff up but they can't take those shredded tents and all that garbage down
Exhaustion
It's only rich people climbing this mountain. They live their lives thinking someone else does the cleanup.
It has no effect on the local wildlife. Think this is an issue go and take a look at the oceans and land fills.