Anybody else stunned that Puma gets no love from 99% of runners despite the Nitro line being incredibly good? Just bought my first pair ever at nearly 60 years old! Been running off & on since I was thirteen.
Great video as usual. I got the FR Nitro last year and been using them on and off. They spent a bit of time out when I got the Boston 12s, but now realising that the FRs are better feeling at that easy pace, and the Bostons can be a bit stiff. Glad to see Puma are getting the recognition they deserve for a range of great shoes. Prices have been good too - often reduced shortly after release.
I’m a neutral runner, always have been, but have been suffering a double whammy of an insertional Achilles tendinopathy and post Tib overload following my last marathon effort in Chicago! These have been fantastic in supporting my heel during runs. I have quite narrow ankles and heels so I had to use all the lace holes to have a proper lock down. The ride is very smooth
The FR nitro is one of the easiest to recommend to other people, blindly. It's a stability shoe that doesn't feel restrictive. It's also a shoe than can handle easy, tempo, to threshold paces. I guess my only gripe with it is the snug fit, especially in the toebox.
I have 500 miles already in these shoes. They still perform great. After 350-400 miles they have loss some of the outsole in the outside area of my heels, since I underpronate, but they are still good to go. I bought them 9 months ago when I started to train for an Ironman for my easy runs/recovery days. I can say that they are well above any of my expectations, and saved me a lot of money
I've just past 100 miles, but the traction on the outer area already scuffed almost smoothly though the rubber outsole still thick enough, I wonder if this similar with your experience..?
@@sigitnugroho7523 Yes, after 200 miles started to lose some rubber. And after 350-400 miles it reached the foam part. But they still are good to do some light work. Now for my long/easy runs I use the velocity nitro 3
I'm just going to keep stocking ForeverRun Nitros because they are awesome cheap and how currently constructed are right up my ally. I don't need or use stability shoes. I'm more of a sprinter but these cover alot of bases for alot of runners. ❤ Team Puma for the Win
I prefer the step-in feel of the FRN compared to the DN2. Both are great shoes but FRN puts that smile on my face when I go for my easy, long run in them.
Thanks for the review 👍 I'm a stability shoe user, flat feet and heel strike. I've only ran 7 miles in my pair so far and they felt a bit clunky so glad to hear that they will break in a bit. I normally use Asics GT1000/2000 and Kayano but they have not been so good lately (older models, not tried current models due to cost), so have been looking at other brands. I also have Puma Deviate Nitro Elite as my first pair of racing shoes so was already aware of the Nitro foam. Just need to use the ForeverRun more now 😉
I only have old versions GT1000-10, GT2000-10 and Kayano 28. GT1000 is fine for shorter runs or some speedier runs/workouts, nothing too fast. GT2000 much the same. Kayano is good for long runs, I did a half marathon race in them after I got an injury with Neutral racing shoes. All are "ok" there's nothing special about any and don't feel as good as the older Kayano 25 and 26 I had. I want to get a pair of the current GT2000 when they go on sale to compare as they are meant to be a jump up in performance/feel. I have other shoes like the Puma ForeeverRun Nitro, New Balance Vongo v5, Mizuno Wave Inspire that feel better (to me anyway)
These are my go to shoe for long runs. Really great at just cruising along at nice steady pace and with the Puma grip can handle any weather and light trails.
Interested in trying this one. Looking for a replacement for my beloved Glideride 3 😢 and I think you recommended the Forever Run or the Supernova Rise as alternatives. Great review as always Mike 👍🏻
Great shoe , as a larger runner 6’1” and weight 210 lbs I really recommend this shoe , I agree it took a tiny bit of break in but just love it now . Can pick up pace and not too soft . I too got a good price on mine . Sort of an underrated shoe I think. I tried deviate nitro 2 and it didn’t work for me .
Big Puma vibes! They appear to be putting it Saucony. The Deviate Nitro & Nitro Elite 3 could create a storm this year and topple many shoetubers lists… Kofuzi I look forwards to your reviews on these and the new ASICS Super shoes as they are launched.
Not a great fit in the ForeverRun initially, but hoping changing the insoles will do the trick. After trying 2 different insoles, managed to buy one with some give in it, and used a combination of the Puma insoles and a Scholl insole underneath to achieve a close fit.
I remember doing morning runs on basketball shoes (dont know anything about shoes) when i was in high school. After running i feel so tired although i run daily. Today ive just had my puma dev. nitro 2 I just did a quick 5 km run and didnt even feel that much tired. Never knew running shoes feels this good
Hi Kofuzi. Oddly I had the opposite experience with this shoe. Felt fantastic out of the box and for the first 40-50 miles then I began to fall out with it. It began feeling’big’ and clunky’ and the upper rather than mould to my foot shape seemed to get baggy especially around the heal where the material was ‘gappy’. I wondered at that point if I should have gone down half a size but the shoe length was ok. In the end I stopped reaching for them and sold them on in near perfect condition with around 70 miles on them. Ian 🇬🇧
I was on the fence about getting this one after already owning the Magnify Nitro 2 ( which , as a heavier runner, I absolutely love!). But then found a pair of the white with neon pink and yellow Futrograde colorway on clearance at DTLR for $29.98!!!!! At that point it was a no brainer . I've used a couple of times now...but I think I have to break them in a bit more. At this point they feel a bit dead. But hey for $29.98 +10.95 shipping I'm not complaining. (DTLR's horrible cust service notwithstanding).
Really appreciate that you give it some time and get back after a 100 miles. Things usually change with the miles. Think I will give these a try. Love the Deviate nitro 2 and need a new daily shoe.
I absolutely hated the Foreverrun. I found it slappy, had heel slip and terrible lace pressure on an oddly thin tongue that bunches. I really like Puma and also think the Deviate Nitro 2 is fantastic. I'm onto my second pair. The Foreverrun though, I don't even think the foam felt particularly great, but was probably the best part. I'd take the original Magnify Nitro over this anyday. I actually prefer the original Magnify to the Magnify 2 as well, but that's a different issue. Just my completely subjective experience of course and the person I sold the Foreverruns to is apparently happy with them.
It’s a great time to be a runner. When one shoe doesn’t work for a runner, there are many other options that can. Glad to hear you’ve found alternatives that work for you.
Puma isn’t trying to be like anyone else. They are doing their own thing and I respect that. Most brands all have some major aspect in common now except puma. Just snagged the velocity nitro 3s and I really love the fit and the ride
If you were going to choose the ForeverRun Nitro or the Velocity Nitro 3 for your easy runs which would you go for? I have the Deviate Nitro 2 for my faster runs so this would be for easy only. Thanks, I love the content.
@althurules I don't know if they are inherently unstable...but they are soft which could bother some people with stability issues. I have some running specific superfeet in mine. They do have a nice wide base which does add a bit of stability.
Perhaps, but the Tempus is more explicitly stability oriented. And it’s more about bounce than cushion, as in the ForeverRun I do believe the ForeverRun will be changing to be more stability oriented, so maybe they will get closer
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I think that depends. Is 4k/min near your easy pace? If so, then yeah. These will be nice for you. If that’s more of a threshold effort, I would not recommend these
Not a shoe on my wish list so commenting mostly for the algorithm. Interesting that the nitro changed inside of 100 when I've put well over 100 in my DN2 and it still feels fresh. So nitro ≠ nitro. It has to be a different formulation.
There are a lot of variables when it comes to supercritical foams. There is the core puck of material (could be Eva, could be Peba). And then there is the gas. Nitrogen gas gives us nitrogen foam. CO2 (and nitrogen I think) gives us hyperburst.
I've got them and don't enjoy running faster in them. They feel a bit heavy and clunky, especially if you're used to lighter shoes. If you like Puma try the Liberate Nitro (pretty cheap), or Deviate like Kofuzi said.
How is the fit between the forever run vs the deviate nitro 2? Do your toes fit the same in the FR and the DN2? The problem I had with saucony was that I love the Guide 16... And the tempus was supposed to be an upgrade to that. But the fit is completely different. I don't fit in the same size tempus as Guide. Not sure why they did that.
Different shoes may have different fits depending on their intended use. It's kind of like how a seat in a minivan fits very different than a seat in a sports car. The fit is more snug in the Deviate Nitro 3 than the ForeverRun. If you've experienced sizing issues in the past, I might consider a half size up or perhaps try the wide version.
Hey man! Found myself curious about temps and midsole performance while watching. Have you found some midsole materials perform better/worse during cold weather running? Cheers ✌🏻
I've been on record saying that I believe the cold effect on foam is overstated. I think your feet feel cold more than the foam does. and I would not change a shoe choice based on temperature alone
The only midsole I've tried that felt different at temperature extremes was the first generation Adidas SL20 with Lightstrike. It was okay in warm weather but felt like cork in cool and cold weather. Great fitting shoe, okay in warm weather or on a synthetic track in cooler weather.
@@ulquiorrasciffer04 Is magnify2 better than invincible/ nimbus 25? How would you rate the midsole bounce/upper of magnify2 compared to invincible/ nimbus 25 ?
Hey Kofuzi, I'm a big fan💖Hope your'e having a awesome day. Please help me out here- I have a budget of buying only 1 pair of running shoe, and I have to do everything with whatever shoe I'll buy, from doing daily training, and speed workouts, to running half-marathons. My personal best in Half-Marathon is 1:30 min and i consider myself a speed runner. My next goal is to finish half-marathon in 1:10 min. Which one pair of shoe should i grab?
I might suggest that you look for walking reviews. You might find more helpful advice there. Alternatively, try running in the running shoes to see if any running reviewers have similar or different running experiences to you.
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Anybody else stunned that Puma gets no love from 99% of runners despite the Nitro line being incredibly good? Just bought my first pair ever at nearly 60 years old! Been running off & on since I was thirteen.
This is my daily trainer (easy/recovery runs). I agree with what Kofuzi said; once the shoe breaks in, it is so great to run into.
Great video as usual. I got the FR Nitro last year and been using them on and off. They spent a bit of time out when I got the Boston 12s, but now realising that the FRs are better feeling at that easy pace, and the Bostons can be a bit stiff. Glad to see Puma are getting the recognition they deserve for a range of great shoes. Prices have been good too - often reduced shortly after release.
I’m a neutral runner, always have been, but have been suffering a double whammy of an insertional Achilles tendinopathy and post Tib overload following my last marathon effort in Chicago!
These have been fantastic in supporting my heel during runs. I have quite narrow ankles and heels so I had to use all the lace holes to have a proper lock down.
The ride is very smooth
The FR nitro is one of the easiest to recommend to other people, blindly. It's a stability shoe that doesn't feel restrictive. It's also a shoe than can handle easy, tempo, to threshold paces.
I guess my only gripe with it is the snug fit, especially in the toebox.
Just hit 300 miles on my Nimbus , and I found a pair of these so cheap I couldn’t resist. Looking forward to racking up the miles on them!
I'm at 300 on my Invincibles and the outsole is crumbling fast!
I’m only at 300km with my nimbus and I couldn’t see much sign of wear at all
Not only excellent for daily trainer, also for office shoe especially the knit version 💪🏼
I love using the knit version without the laces. They look clean af.
@@ClaimhSolaris geee... I better try that! Thanks
I have 500 miles already in these shoes. They still perform great. After 350-400 miles they have loss some of the outsole in the outside area of my heels, since I underpronate, but they are still good to go. I bought them 9 months ago when I started to train for an Ironman for my easy runs/recovery days. I can say that they are well above any of my expectations, and saved me a lot of money
I've just past 100 miles, but the traction on the outer area already scuffed almost smoothly, I wonder if this happened to you too..?
I've just past 100 miles, but the traction on the outer area already scuffed almost smoothly though the rubber outsole still thick enough, I wonder if this similar with your experience..?
@@sigitnugroho7523 Yes, after 200 miles started to lose some rubber. And after 350-400 miles it reached the foam part. But they still are good to do some light work. Now for my long/easy runs I use the velocity nitro 3
I'm just going to keep stocking ForeverRun Nitros because they are awesome cheap and how currently constructed are right up my ally. I don't need or use stability shoes. I'm more of a sprinter but these cover alot of bases for alot of runners. ❤ Team Puma for the Win
Stock up while you can
I prefer the step-in feel of the FRN compared to the DN2. Both are great shoes but FRN puts that smile on my face when I go for my easy, long run in them.
Thanks for the review 👍 I'm a stability shoe user, flat feet and heel strike. I've only ran 7 miles in my pair so far and they felt a bit clunky so glad to hear that they will break in a bit. I normally use Asics GT1000/2000 and Kayano but they have not been so good lately (older models, not tried current models due to cost), so have been looking at other brands. I also have Puma Deviate Nitro Elite as my first pair of racing shoes so was already aware of the Nitro foam. Just need to use the ForeverRun more now 😉
Hope you enjoy!
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I only have old versions GT1000-10, GT2000-10 and Kayano 28.
GT1000 is fine for shorter runs or some speedier runs/workouts, nothing too fast.
GT2000 much the same.
Kayano is good for long runs, I did a half marathon race in them after I got an injury with Neutral racing shoes.
All are "ok" there's nothing special about any and don't feel as good as the older Kayano 25 and 26 I had.
I want to get a pair of the current GT2000 when they go on sale to compare as they are meant to be a jump up in performance/feel.
I have other shoes like the Puma ForeeverRun Nitro, New Balance Vongo v5, Mizuno Wave Inspire that feel better (to me anyway)
These are my go to shoe for long runs. Really great at just cruising along at nice steady pace and with the Puma grip can handle any weather and light trails.
Good morning. I am a neutral runner but Like to Kofuzi. Have a wonderful day.
Interested in trying this one. Looking for a replacement for my beloved Glideride 3 😢 and I think you recommended the Forever Run or the Supernova Rise as alternatives. Great review as always Mike 👍🏻
Found a pair for under 40 bucks at Ross Dress For Less. Great shoe! I like your reviews.
Same, sitting in Ross atm trying them on. Don't need 'em. Gonna get 'em anyway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Great shoe , as a larger runner 6’1” and weight 210 lbs I really recommend this shoe , I agree it took a tiny bit of break in but just love it now . Can pick up pace and not too soft . I too got a good price on mine . Sort of an underrated shoe I think. I tried deviate nitro 2 and it didn’t work for me .
Absolutely love it!!! I hope they release ForeverRun Nitro 2
I've got the Triumph 20, I enjoy running on it, but I don't think it's stable, especially if you're a heel striker.
Big Puma vibes! They appear to be putting it Saucony. The Deviate Nitro & Nitro Elite 3 could create a storm this year and topple many shoetubers lists…
Kofuzi I look forwards to your reviews on these and the new ASICS Super shoes as they are launched.
Not a great fit in the ForeverRun initially, but hoping changing the insoles will do the trick. After trying 2 different insoles, managed to buy one with some give in it, and used a combination of the Puma insoles and a Scholl insole underneath to achieve a close fit.
I remember doing morning runs on basketball shoes (dont know anything about shoes) when i was in high school. After running i feel so tired although i run daily.
Today ive just had my puma dev. nitro 2
I just did a quick 5 km run and didnt even feel that much tired.
Never knew running shoes feels this good
The right shoes can make a huge difference
Hi Kofuzi. Oddly I had the opposite experience with this shoe. Felt fantastic out of the box and for the first 40-50 miles then I began to fall out with it. It began feeling’big’ and clunky’ and the upper rather than mould to my foot shape seemed to get baggy especially around the heal where the material was ‘gappy’. I wondered at that point if I should have gone down half a size but the shoe length was ok. In the end I stopped reaching for them and sold them on in near perfect condition with around 70 miles on them. Ian 🇬🇧
I mean, let's be honest, doesn't really look like a running shoe but rather a gym one.
Exact same for me
Great shoe I’m 190 and a mid foot striker. I think the forefoot foam has compressed a little bit for me
Thank you for the mileage update!
I was on the fence about getting this one after already owning the Magnify Nitro 2 ( which , as a heavier runner, I absolutely love!). But then found a pair of the white with neon pink and yellow Futrograde colorway on clearance at DTLR for $29.98!!!!! At that point it was a no brainer . I've used a couple of times now...but I think I have to break them in a bit more. At this point they feel a bit dead. But hey for $29.98 +10.95 shipping I'm not complaining. (DTLR's horrible cust service notwithstanding).
Puma really nailed it. The more you use foreverrun nitro for run, it become more comfortable. Also got mine for $59, I just couldn't resist. 🤓
Great price
Really appreciate that you give it some time and get back after a 100 miles. Things usually change with the miles. Think I will give these a try. Love the Deviate nitro 2 and need a new daily shoe.
Picked these up for 40 bucks! Can’t wait to hit the road.
nice!
I absolutely hated the Foreverrun. I found it slappy, had heel slip and terrible lace pressure on an oddly thin tongue that bunches. I really like Puma and also think the Deviate Nitro 2 is fantastic. I'm onto my second pair. The Foreverrun though, I don't even think the foam felt particularly great, but was probably the best part. I'd take the original Magnify Nitro over this anyday. I actually prefer the original Magnify to the Magnify 2 as well, but that's a different issue.
Just my completely subjective experience of course and the person I sold the Foreverruns to is apparently happy with them.
It’s a great time to be a runner. When one shoe doesn’t work for a runner, there are many other options that can.
Glad to hear you’ve found alternatives that work for you.
Have you tried the ForeverRUN's non-stability sibling the Magnify NITRO 2 and, if so, how would you compare the two?
I haven’t tried it, but as far as I know, the magnify does not have that blue layer of foam that I like so much
Puma isn’t trying to be like anyone else. They are doing their own thing and I respect that. Most brands all have some major aspect in common now except puma.
Just snagged the velocity nitro 3s and I really love the fit and the ride
What’s the thing that the alpha fly and adidas adios pro 3 have in common?
just bought this at a 50% discount, loving it so far
Where?
Also where
Awesome!
Just picked a size 10.5 for 35 bucks today. Unplanned purchase, but couldn’t resist because of the price. Hope they work out
that's a very good price
It's a little disconcerting to hear how so many people got them for so little when I just got them for 110 (euros)!
Awsome video as always, can you make a review of nikes infinity run 4? Or maybe its in the works...
I do not currently have plans to review that shoe
If you were going to choose the ForeverRun Nitro or the Velocity Nitro 3 for your easy runs which would you go for? I have the Deviate Nitro 2 for my faster runs so this would be for easy only. Thanks, I love the content.
Thank you for Great review kufuzi I bought velocity nitro 3 a month ago do you recommend this shoe to be my rotation staff ❤❤❤
Would love to know your thoughts on this vs the Magnify 2. Magnify 2 feels amazing as well but Im not sure if its stable enough.
Do you find magnify2 unstable?
@althurules I don't know if they are inherently unstable...but they are soft which could bother some people with stability issues. I have some running specific superfeet in mine. They do have a nice wide base which does add a bit of stability.
I have not tried the Magnify
Sounds similar to the Soucony Tempus in terms of the tech
Perhaps, but the Tempus is more explicitly stability oriented. And it’s more about bounce than cushion, as in the ForeverRun
I do believe the ForeverRun will be changing to be more stability oriented, so maybe they will get closer
If money was no object, would you take this or the Superblast for a 20mi run?
Superblast, especially since I don’t typically do long slow distance anymore but instead include some quicker miles within the long run
That’s all I needed to know, thanks man! I can always trust your opinion.
funny stuff ..I ran in these this week. felt great for my feet
Glad you’re enjoying them!
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First, ig. Thanks for the quality vid Ko!
Great review! Can these shoes handle 4k/min pace?
I think that depends. Is 4k/min near your easy pace? If so, then yeah. These will be nice for you. If that’s more of a threshold effort, I would not recommend these
Is the magnify nitro 2 a better option than the forever run nitro if I don't need any stability?
The MN2 is a great all rounder. I have both and I find the MN2 to be more versatile. It can do easy runs and long and can takes strides inbetween.
I haven’t tried the magnify before, but it doesn’t have the dual foam approach of the forever run
EddBud has run in both I believe. Check his reviews.
Not a shoe on my wish list so commenting mostly for the algorithm. Interesting that the nitro changed inside of 100 when I've put well over 100 in my DN2 and it still feels fresh. So nitro ≠ nitro. It has to be a different formulation.
There are a lot of variables when it comes to supercritical foams. There is the core puck of material (could be Eva, could be Peba). And then there is the gas. Nitrogen gas gives us nitrogen foam. CO2 (and nitrogen I think) gives us hyperburst.
How's this foam's cushion softness feel vs the magnify 2?
how about sizing.. its like tight or wide feels? better true to size or better up halrf size?
It isn't clear when you're talking about pairing option. So the foreverrun is for easy & recovery run?
Can these shoes be used for tempo and interval...or Puma DN 2...?
I've got them and don't enjoy running faster in them. They feel a bit heavy and clunky, especially if you're used to lighter shoes. If you like Puma try the Liberate Nitro (pretty cheap), or Deviate like Kofuzi said.
For tempo runs, def DN 2. These are for easy, longer runs.
Would his be a good daily trainer option?
Hi Kofuzi im wondering Will there be a review on Skechers go run ride 11?
I do not currently have plans to review that shoe
How is the fit between the forever run vs the deviate nitro 2? Do your toes fit the same in the FR and the DN2?
The problem I had with saucony was that I love the Guide 16... And the tempus was supposed to be an upgrade to that. But the fit is completely different. I don't fit in the same size tempus as Guide. Not sure why they did that.
Different shoes may have different fits depending on their intended use. It's kind of like how a seat in a minivan fits very different than a seat in a sports car.
The fit is more snug in the Deviate Nitro 3 than the ForeverRun. If you've experienced sizing issues in the past, I might consider a half size up or perhaps try the wide version.
I love my Nike Metcon sneakers but I have been looking for another running shoe that isn't clunky (aka no thick soles). Do you have any recs?
I think pretty much any daily trainer will be an upgrade. The Metcon is not intended for running, really
Will you be doing a review on the new Hoka cielo x1?
It’s in the queue
Hey man! Found myself curious about temps and midsole performance while watching. Have you found some midsole materials perform better/worse during cold weather running? Cheers ✌🏻
I've been on record saying that I believe the cold effect on foam is overstated. I think your feet feel cold more than the foam does. and I would not change a shoe choice based on temperature alone
The only midsole I've tried that felt different at temperature extremes was the first generation Adidas SL20 with Lightstrike. It was okay in warm weather but felt like cork in cool and cold weather. Great fitting shoe, okay in warm weather or on a synthetic track in cooler weather.
Im a little bit confused. What's the difference between foreverrun and Magnify Nitro?
Mild stability Foreverrun good for recovery run or easy run. Magnify nitro more on daily workout.
For me magnify nitro is more of a invincible/ nimbus 25
Foreverrun is more of a pegasus/vomero type of shoe .
@@ulquiorrasciffer04 Is magnify2 better than invincible/ nimbus 25? How would you rate the midsole bounce/upper of magnify2 compared to invincible/ nimbus 25 ?
Don't waste your money, buy triumph 19, bouncy for easy to uptempo, superb
hey kofuzi! are you going to be running the la marathon this spring?
I do not currently have plans
Any idea when the FR Nitro 2 will be released?
I don’t have info
nice video
Thanks
Hey Michael. I have a flat foot and most shoes pinch me in the arch area. Is this wide in the midfoot?
I have flat feet and these don't pinch me...but everyone is different. Go try on a pair if you can.
Can you use these for sprint training?🤔
I would look at the liberate or velocity from Puma
I just picked these up at Ross today for 40 bucks! This is only my second running shoe (using the ghost 15 currently), hopefully these work for me
What a great price!
Could you run a half marathon in them?
yes
Hey Kofuzi, I'm a big fan💖Hope your'e having a awesome day. Please help me out here- I have a budget of buying only 1 pair of running shoe, and I have to do everything with whatever shoe I'll buy, from doing daily training, and speed workouts, to running half-marathons. My personal best in Half-Marathon is 1:30 min and i consider myself a speed runner. My next goal is to finish half-marathon in 1:10 min. Which one pair of shoe should i grab?
Using this as a walk shoe, another over marketed very average shoe by the shoe tubers… 5/10
I might suggest that you look for walking reviews. You might find more helpful advice there.
Alternatively, try running in the running shoes to see if any running reviewers have similar or different running experiences to you.
I mean, honestly, they look more like a gym shoe.
For some people, that would be a great positive