RE-ZONING Property in Cochise County + A Typical Boondocking Day
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.พ. 2020
- We knew it would take several months to try to re-zone this property. Thankfully the sellers have been willing to work with us while we try to do this, and the county has been super helpful at answering all our questions. We're getting closer to our big meeting with planning and zoning so we'll know more in the coming months!
While we're waiting, we're trying to decide what to do first. Water? Solar? Shed to store tools? Fencing to keep out the free range cattle? So many options.
Also, ever wonder what we do all day boondocking? We bring you along for the ride in beautiful Ajo, AZ.
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My son and I just returned from a hike (-25c ) and i can say is your kids are going to learn so much about life doing this .... you folks are totally on the right track to freedom .... well done and cheers from Northern Canada
The smart people I observe building out there first build a shade shed for their RV rig. Then they build it strong or get a 40 foot container delivered for one side. Shade creation means you can stay OK for 4 extra months a year. Then they build whatever house they want and building to code but without inspections. Take lots of pictures. Do things right. Then get a swamp cooler hooked up with solar electric for the fan. If you get some total roof area of 100 ft X 100 ft, that can bring in 600 gallons with 1 inch of rain. Then get 2 large water tanks to capture rain water. I would build everything of masonry and steel but build small so you can afford it. Then add on as you save up. Don't go into debt. Don't build with wood or hippie crap. You can actually make adobe bricks that can create a quality garage/shop that has some AC effect. It just takes a long time to get enough bricks made, your daily workout. I would do that. There is a serious trend away from cities for the next two years so whatever you build that is actual quality, is not going to be lost value. You are going to be gaining the whole time. I hate to say this but you want Mexican concrete and steel construction so go visit Mexico and see how they build for 100 years and the buildings last 200 years, not 25 years.
This is really great info, thank you! Bought land last Fall in Cochise, moving out in 18 months, learned a lot from what you shared.
Really like your Family all helping cooking
Love and Rainbows
I'm not a weirdo😂But I jus think this woman is so so cute, and amazingly courageous (You put off Belinda Carlisle vibes)
You have a lovely family.
In Elfrida at the fire dept you can get a meter for their well and haul water. It is $30 a month for the first 1000 gal and a small fee for more. It can get you started. I found this out from a local. Not well known. Water catchment is my ultimate goal. I will be in Mcneal. Good luck.
This is so helpful- we’ve just started to look into hauling water. Thanks!!
Watching this from the future, such a long road
You have a life and family everyone is most likely jealous of. Good luck to you.
Im so glad I found you guys! My husband and I are just about to embark on the same adventure🤗 I am definitely cheering for you, and I appreciate you guys sharing your story.
Starie Moore thanks so much! We’ve already met so many people in the area doing the same thing. It’s a great community. I hope your process is much easier than ours 😁
I hope it works out for you all. Good luck with your plans..
Good luck guys! I hope it all works out for you.
Pam Kaufman thanks! Fingers crossed!
Cochise county is our favorite wintering area. What a great adventure your embarking on, land ownership. Good luck with it all.
Thanks! We really love this area, too.
That sounds complicated. We wish y’all the best. (We got very lucky with our land. Someone had already done the septic and there’s a well. Very nice videos!!!😊❤️👍
MidlifePrices that’s so nice. Looking forward to figuring it all out.
I haul water for a living Alberta Canada.
How ever my company also drills up to 500 feet if the area is known to have water but there are no gaurentees.
Went , Through That Up Here In Mojave County..They, Sent A Letter To All Land Owners In Your Area And They Inturn Have 30 Days To Respond Took Us About 90 Days .. Fun And Games Plus A Few Hoops...You,Will Make It..
If you don’t already follow them, you might want to look at the TH-cam channel Life Uncontained. They have a very good solar setup for powering their home off-grid as well as a system for storing 7500 gallons of water that is caught off their roof. Hope the re-zoning of the property works out for you all.
Thanks Julie, we will check it out!
I love they're channel 💜💜💜
You guys who are so into hay bails and earth bags......it creates a structural problem with the weight of a roof. You can't resell it for beans. You want adobe or build out of 12 or 10 or 8 inch block. Then fill the blocks with dirt to get the Adobe effect. You can get a mortgage and insurance. It cannot burn, no need for fire insurance. Forget rezoning. The county people are not idiots. They are trying to guide you into building a quality home. Why not build a normally strong house and save the hay bail ideas for a chicken coup or a garage. Block can be stucco ed over to look like adobe. Want to secure a roof to bails of hay with a 75 mph wind storm coming to a theater near you? Neither Curtis nor Luke want to try to rezone lots to see them abandoned after a wind storm, and the county can't get a bid at a foreclosure sale because it's a windblown goat flock. Nobody wants wind blown hand me down clothes landing on their property. Try to care about more the person reading this. Be your own good neighbor. A cement block costs 2 dollars. Try pounding earth into a tire and then moving it into place. A ruined back isn't worth a dime. Fill up an earth bag and it still looks like some ugly worm and it's round on top of round, structurally defective from the start. But 5k worth of cement blocks can get you a house worth 50k and you can handle whatever nature throws at you. I differ to the story of the three little pigs. Be smart, ask the locals.
J Mac I agree with everything you say except for one: that the county is trying to "guide" people into building a quality home. They don't care about that. What they care about it losing revenue and, more importantly, control over another land owner. What is the point of buying land if the government has the right to tell you what to do with it? It is clear that the county and government in general do not look kindly on those who live off grid. Off-griders are harder to control. Up north in Concho and St. James, the feds roll around periodically silently harassing the landowners and looking sketchy. They will roll up on property, cross trespass signs and snoop around to their hearts content. It really is disgusting. Freedom is a complete illusion in this country. The older I get, the more clear this becomes to me.
Where in the process of combining two lots together in Cochise county. We will be starting our Strawbale home in the coming year.
Everybody looks so different from your hyperadobe build that I started watching... And all in about a year.
Yep.
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This is great information, thanks. Could you elaborate on what exactly a "hard time" actually means? What happens that makes it so hard?
Haha good question. We’ve heard it’s kind of like an interrogation where they want you to prove your stance and reasoning. There may be snide remarks? Not sure we’ll know more when we go through it 😁
The half built cabin style homes were designed by engineers And they don’t need special permit zoning.
Escaping permits and inspections may sound great however whatever you build and all of your efforts and resources may create a homestead that is neither bank financeable or insurable and would significantly limit any future sale of the property and your improvements.
Not necessarily. We know several people out here who have sold their opt out homes. But we don’t plan on selling anyway:)
Who does something like this with an intention of selling. Mine would be handed down to family after i am gone.
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Is this Pima County? For some reason I thought Cochise County was the only county you could really opt out ?
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My name is Karen Vucurevich Cripe and I am the Chanel fanilies
Abandoning the road... Does that mean the property on down the road would become land locked?
Jay Drummond great question. There’s only one property behind ours that wouldn’t have direct access but we’re hoping we may be able to buy that lot, too.
What do you do about sewage?
You have to have a septic installed, even with the opt-out. Having a plan for the septic is part of the site plan submission process.
Y'all are so damn cute. What is the secret to your happy marriage?
Hum..I guess we just like each other.
Do y'all have saguaro cactus 🌵 on your property? I keep thinking I see one every so often. 💖
Sadly, no - we're a bit too high in elevation for them.
@@TinyShinyHome Thanks so much for taking your time to answer me! You must have been somewhere else when I saw the cactus in the background. Thanks again! Love watching your videos! Gets my day started happy. Lum 💖
I would visit anyone out there who looks successful at doing the desert homestead and study what they do. If you take all the good ideas and ask why and understand about it and how the systems work more don't work..........you are going to gain an edge. But do not bring California thinking out there and forget east coast building ideas. Stick built houses are crap in the desert. You can say....... No, its grasslands............it's like Kansas..........ummmm, no, its SCRUB DESERT so lower your expectations so you are not disappointed. Did your land cost you 10k an acre like real livable land costs? Yeah so water capture is an angle and dealing with dry heat and wind storms are a threat but so what? You have a piece of America for a song. You can get land for 300 to 500 an acre with 2wd vehicle access. Just don't buy too much because it's worth less. Not worthless just worth less. The taxes on a 40 or an 80 are a kill joy. You need your porridge just right, 4 to 10 in RU4. You can write your land needs on an index card and walk into a Mormon church and ask around. The best deals come from ranchers and they want to see who they are selling to. They can split off a corner of a large lot very easily. Many would even carry the note. Yes, 10 acres for 3k. I bought 4 acres for 1.5k. I got 4 acres for 1.2k. I just closed on 20 acres for 8k. Took me a year to pay it off, no lawyers, no RE agents, no interest, with warranty deed. If I kissed the earth there, I don't know if I'd try to spit it out. It has a view of 45 miles looking out and mountains towering up along 180 degrees. So we're in a depression and RE is going to crash........so what? People need a place to live. Urban RE is all crap to me. So is the suburbs with zoning restrictions out the past. This land can jump to 1k an acre very easily and much of it already has. You can't grow citrus but you can grow apricots and nut trees well. You'll see me holding a cup out in a rain storm seeing my glass getting half full. The naysayers are always half empty. I'm posting this so you can hopefilly gain a dream and avoid any scheme.
You should have bought land in Apache County.
@Keyzer Soze Apache County has the least restrictive codes of any county in AZ.
@Keyzer Soze Yes, Apache county is the least restrictive by far.
@@patricklee780 not anymore
@@eradicator187 Your evidence?