Hey Joe, I’ve seen great reviews on this rail including yours but I saw a guy that says his moves about 2 mm back and forth and that that would keep him from mounting a laser on his. Have you noticed any movement on yours? He does have a Colt so maybe it works slightly better on the Sport 2. Just wanted to see if you experienced this as well or if it’s snug and solid?
Thanks for the vid. Thought I had to choose between swapping out the barrel nut/gas block/front sight or swapping out the entire upper. This is exactly what I needed.
Can't you just take off the front sight? You need to change out the barrel nut and gas block as well to run a full size mlok rail? Sorry if that's a dumb question as this is my first AR. I'm just not a fan of the sight post sticking out the rail. Just looks a little odd. I had put the shorter size quad rail on mine but I like the mlok look and feel a little better. Do they sell a shorter mlok rail that just goes up to the front site do you guys know? Thanks
Thanks for the recommendation, mine came in today. was a PAIN getting the old rail off, what I ended up doing was wrapping a wire into the holes on the rail and than when I Pulled the D ring down i was able to pull the wire and it came out so much easier. makes the M&P look tenfold better.
Just so you folks know, there are companies who make FREE FLOAT HAND GUARDS, NO DELTA RING, that will still accept your A2 front sight. I have one on my sport 2 now. I had to change the delta ring for a barrel nut, but that was about it. I'll post some pics or make a link to the pics of mine, and I'll do a super quick takedown, and rebuild video so you can see for yourself their is NO DELTA RING, and the hand guard is truly FREE FLOATING! Bolted directly to the piece that goes on behind the barrel nut, and accepts the pins for the hand guard, as well as the gas tube. Also, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE YOUR A2 SIGHT OFF TO INSTALL THIS FREE FLOATING HANDGUARD. It's beautiful and super easy to install. You do need an armorer's wrench though.
I have a Sport II as well, and I've been dying to find something I can use to extend the real estate of my handguard. Just ordered this 5 minutes ago! Thanks for the video.
Hey bro, was just wondering if you felt any movement on it or if it feels solid? Wanted to know in case I put a laser on if there’s any movement or not.
@@yishaihalpin1121 I have not felt any movement in mine. others have commented they have felt movement but i am not sure if it is on the M&P or a different rifle.
Thanks for the great video. You inspired me to pick one up. Question though, do you have a suggestion for where a sling hook would attach to in the front? It seems this handguard covered the obvious sling attachment point along the bottom of the barrel
I just got a Ruger 556 and my thoughts on changing the hand gurdwara but I want to keep the stock front sight and I found your video. Perfect. I'm ordering one now. Thanks for shearing. also I just subscribed to your channel. BTW where you from? Thanks for sharing. 👍🏼
The smith and wesson sports 2 was my first rifle only because it was the only ar I could find. But it's reliable, cheap but something I'll never sell. I've upgraded to a lantac
Looks good, I have this rifle but with the railed gas block instead of the a2 sight. Have a mbus pro flip up sight on gas block. This hand guard should work nicely
@@jt3366 I have not bought it yet. But I have gotten a reply from another question I asked from someone who did. They said it worked great on their m&p with railed gas block. I will be making the upgrade next rime I'm home. I'm an over the road trucker
Your video is still doing the lords work. I just copped one of these for my M&P15 Sport II. Excited to install. How would you say it's been treating you since installing?
New to attachments not new to firearms so bear with me........can you put a rail on the bottom for a grip of some sort is that a thing or do I need to look for a guard with a bottom rail and if that's the case where and what should I look at. Thanks
Yes you can put a M-Lok picatinny rail on the bottom to mount accessories if the accessory isn't M-lok. Here is whats included: VISM AR15 M-LOK Carbine Handguard One Short (1.5 M-LOK slots/ 5 slot Picatinny) Picatinny rail section One Medium Length (2.5 M-LOK slots/ 9 slot Picatinny) Picatinny rail section
Hi I am having trouble with the mounted front sight ring that held in the old handguard and was wonder how you got it to fit on there. It isn't the sling mount in the way, its the ring for some reason
I do plan on getting a sight for it. just trying to figure out what to get. i recommend this hand guard based on my experience with it so far. Install was easy and appearance is great!
@@joemartinez7630 When you do get one if you can make a video on it would be great ! I just ordered the hand guard can’t wait till it gets here now I just have to change the horrific fin grip with something “California compliant” an probably throw on a angled fore grip thanks for info though
I have the M&P sport 2 with the gas block that has an integral picatinny rail and I can’t find a handguard that has the cut out for this, any recommendations on one?
Have you tried mounting anything like a laser on this handguard?? I mounted a Sightmark LoPro and noticed the laser kept drifting. Replaced the LoPro 3 times and same problem. Then I noticed the handguard itself was moving.
Thanks for this comment, this is exactly what I was wondering about just in case I was gonna mount a laser. I’m thinking I won’t, at least not on the rail. But should be just fine with a fire grip and flash light at least.
That is just my experience with the handguard. You may have a better fit with yours. Worst case you mount a laser device and it drifts. Return the Vism handguard and get something that mounts better.
This is exactly why I never understand why people would buy a handguard like this instead of a free float and low profile gas block from a reputable company. If you can get away with this and it works awesome but your comment is far from the only one mentioning the handguard moving. If that’s the case it defeats half the purpose of having one because you can’t zero anything on it. I put a low profile gas block and a BCM MCMR on my m&p sport 2 and it works great. More expensive but you get what you pay for
Thanks for the instructional video. Was looking to upgrade the pew pew. Have the same model. One of my biggest gripes was the length then I seen this rail online and they had your video on their website and it looks good! So I see it’s been a year since you made this. How’s it holding up? Any regrets?
See I’ve been asking people here on the commenting section if any of them have noticed this wiggle in case I wanna mount a laser, cause if there is wiggle room I’ll make sure not to. What kind of rifle did you put this on if you don’t mind me asking. Cause I wanna put this on the sport 2 like the video.
@@yishaihalpin1121 I actually tried this on two uppers, one was a PSA upper and the other was an M&P, they both had similar amount of wiggle. If the laser is an absolute deal breaker go get a set of free float handguards and chop down your front sight into a low profile block.
That completely depends on your overall set up. Here is the link for the Q&A on the site. www.opticsplanet.com/questions/questions-vism-ar15-m-lok-carbine-handguard.html?_iv_page=4
www.opticsplanet.com/vism-ar15-m-lok-carbine-handguard.html
Hey Joe, I’ve seen great reviews on this rail including yours but I saw a guy that says his moves about 2 mm back and forth and that that would keep him from mounting a laser on his. Have you noticed any movement on yours? He does have a Colt so maybe it works slightly better on the Sport 2. Just wanted to see if you experienced this as well or if it’s snug and solid?
@@yishaihalpin1121 i have seen this. I am thinking the sport 2 is the best fit for this.
PSA get MAGPUL MOE SL AR15/M4 HAND GUARD (CARBINE LENGTH)- MAG538 $33.20. Can attach M-Lok anything.
Just bought mine thanks for the video and the link dude!
@@kylebailey2884 I'm glad I could help.
We had the magpul editions as police. That package has the upgraded lower, stock, grip, and handguard. Those were great rifles.
Looks Amazing, i ordered mine a couple days ago. Can’t wait to install
Thanks for the vid. Thought I had to choose between swapping out the barrel nut/gas block/front sight or swapping out the entire upper. This is exactly what I needed.
That was my thought process until I found this!
Can't you just take off the front sight? You need to change out the barrel nut and gas block as well to run a full size mlok rail? Sorry if that's a dumb question as this is my first AR. I'm just not a fan of the sight post sticking out the rail. Just looks a little odd. I had put the shorter size quad rail on mine but I like the mlok look and feel a little better. Do they sell a shorter mlok rail that just goes up to the front site do you guys know? Thanks
Very nice! Just installed my UTG PRO Super Slim M-LOK 15". Makes a huge difference. That Delta Ring is a bugger.
Awesome! i hope you like it. The delta ring can be a pain for sure.
Thanks for the recommendation, mine came in today. was a PAIN getting the old rail off, what I ended up doing was wrapping a wire into the holes on the rail and than when I Pulled the D ring down i was able to pull the wire and it came out so much easier. makes the M&P look tenfold better.
Sometimes that D-ring can be a pain. I hope yoou enjoy the new rail.
For $12, they make a tool for removing the handguard
@@TheKirkChristian Thank you for that
Thanks for this video. I just bought the mp15 sport and wanted to change the hand guard but didn’t know what to get 👍👍👍
I hope it works out for you!
i ordered a hand guard the size of the original and i’m definitely changing out for this one 🔥 great vid can’t wait to upgrade mine
I couldn't be more happy with mine.
Which which one did you order the original size one I’d like to look at options, but is one is bad ass
@@Arod06 i ordered the 13.5 in length one.
Thank you for the video. I just ordered one today 👍🏻
Awesome! I hope it works well for you. mine fits perfect for the Sport II.
Very nice..... I’ve never used them on any of my builds but it looks solid.... great vid... just sub’d.
Thank you for that. This seems to be a very solid piece.
Thanks for the video man! Now I know which one I’m gonna get!
Do it! Hahaha. I love it so far.
I like it. I used to love the stock but I’m starting to like the one you installed. Thanks for the video
I am glad you enjoyed! It is a nice upgrade.
Awesome video! Nice job.Thank you. Went right over and bought one.
Awesome! I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
I just ordered my forearm thanks for the information.
Excellent video, Joe! I learned a lot. Thank you.
Thank You!
Thanks for the vid. Thats exactly what i looking for. Just purchase mine today.
Awesome. I hope it works out for you. It fits my M&P Sport II perfectly!!
Just got this for my Bushmaster XM-15e2, fits great!!
Bad Ass!!
Awesome hand guard I’m going to price it now I’ll be sitting down. Pound off the sling mount. You can mount anything you want. Thank you
NICE 👍🏽 certainly and solid alternative to swapping from drop-in to floated. 👌🏽
wELL SAID
Looks great. Thanks for the video.
Just so you folks know, there are companies who make FREE FLOAT HAND GUARDS, NO DELTA RING, that will still accept your A2 front sight. I have one on my sport 2 now. I had to change the delta ring for a barrel nut, but that was about it. I'll post some pics or make a link to the pics of mine, and I'll do a super quick takedown, and rebuild video so you can see for yourself their is NO DELTA RING, and the hand guard is truly FREE FLOATING! Bolted directly to the piece that goes on behind the barrel nut, and accepts the pins for the hand guard, as well as the gas tube. Also, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE YOUR A2 SIGHT OFF TO INSTALL THIS FREE FLOATING HANDGUARD. It's beautiful and super easy to install. You do need an armorer's wrench though.
Now this is what I’m looking for, that Delta ring just looks a bit goofy
No pics and no link just a bunch of bullshit spit. Thanks for nothing.
Can you share the names of the ones you’re referring to?
Don’t be shy, why don’t you tell us the companies??
It's called a 2-piece handguard. Midwest industries has them, as well as a lot of other companies
Thanks Joe, im picking one up for my Sport II 👍
Right on! Let me know how it fits.
Very nice I like it simple enough to put on
The more simple the better for me. And the build quality is a plus!
thanks for the video and the link to the website, your rifle looks spectacular, right now I'm buying the handguard for my rifle, thanks
Thank you I appreciate that! I hope yours comes out just as good.
I have a Sport II as well, and I've been dying to find something I can use to extend the real estate of my handguard. Just ordered this 5 minutes ago! Thanks for the video.
I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
Great handguard. I have this too
Exactly what I’ll be doing after I pick mine up.
I would love to hear how it fits on yours after you get it!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Thanks for sharing such valuable input! 😎
I hope you enjoyed! Thank you.
Good vid.. I was thinking of upgrading to this as well..
Thank you! I love the way it looks now.
Bad ass just ordered one thanks for the video
Awesome! Thanks.
That's a great fitting handguard
Thank you! I agree it fits very well.
It’s nice I’ve got one on mine there are definitely lighter handrails out there
Super sexy.. I added the 15in to mine to give just enough for the muzzle brake to stick out. Kool vid
Thank you!
It’s a very good hand guard for the price I have one in a 15 inch with the A2 cut out. Hit the range and enjoy
I agree 100%! Thanks
Hey bro, was just wondering if you felt any movement on it or if it feels solid? Wanted to know in case I put a laser on if there’s any movement or not.
@@yishaihalpin1121 I have not felt any movement in mine. others have commented they have felt movement but i am not sure if it is on the M&P or a different rifle.
Good job buddy, looks great!
Thank you!
Looks great man. I'm going to st the exact same one. 🤘🇺🇸
AWESOME! Hope it works out for you.
Thanks for the review!
I hope you enjoyed!
@@joemartinez7630 appreciate the link, mine came in and looks great and more room for tactical light etc is worth it.
@@awesomedave8484 I hope you like it and are satisfied.
Thanks for the great video. You inspired me to pick one up. Question though, do you have a suggestion for where a sling hook would attach to in the front? It seems this handguard covered the obvious sling attachment point along the bottom of the barrel
I do not believe the guard covers the sling point on the bottom of the barrel.
it fits to optics ready version ?
I just got a Ruger 556 and my thoughts on changing the hand gurdwara but I want to keep the stock front sight and I found your video. Perfect. I'm ordering one now. Thanks for shearing.
also I just subscribed to your channel.
BTW where you from?
Thanks for sharing. 👍🏼
Thank yo so much for your support. I'm from Northern New Mexico.
I wonder if I’ll fit the optic ready version
This is what I needed! 👍🏿
I agree!
dude was definitely thinking of getting a different guard rail for mine because the stock one is so bad. nice tutorial!
Thank you!
Excellent job!!!
Thank You
Looks great! 👍🏽
Thank you!
The smith and wesson sports 2 was my first rifle only because it was the only ar I could find. But it's reliable, cheap but something I'll never sell. I've upgraded to a lantac
Awesome. S&W is a reputable company that makes quality firearms.
@@joemartinez7630 it's funny how people with money talk down to others who can only afford cheap rifles.
@@joemartinez7630 I do have a question. When you installed the hand guard, did you have to do any sort of modifications to install it properly
@@mr.joshua204 No modifications were done. This hand guard is made to fit the M&P Sport 2. You just take the old one off and install the new one.
Why not show installing it?
I really like this. I’ll be getting it for mine too! Thanks for the info.
Looks great!
Thanks!
Looks good, I have this rifle but with the railed gas block instead of the a2 sight. Have a mbus pro flip up sight on gas block. This hand guard should work nicely
So far so good. I like it!
@@joemartinez7630 mine even came with mlok handguard, but this extended one looks like a massive upgrade.
@@ridge69 It really changed the appearance, and in my opinion, its way better then the plastic hand guard it came with.
@@jt3366 I have not bought it yet. But I have gotten a reply from another question I asked from someone who did. They said it worked great on their m&p with railed gas block. I will be making the upgrade next rime I'm home. I'm an over the road trucker
@@JJ-rm4lw still on the road. Should be home by the end of the month.
How did you measure the old one to get the right size
Any options you know of if i dont want it to go past the from A sight
Will this work for the optics ready version?
That’s beautiful!!!
Thank You! It does change the look.
@@joemartinez7630 i’d love to get one myself. I literally just bought one of these rifles two days ago.
Great review 🤘🏻💯
Thank you!!
Looks Great!
Thank You!
That replacement hand guard looks good.
Thanks!
Your video is still doing the lords work. I just copped one of these for my M&P15 Sport II. Excited to install. How would you say it's been treating you since installing?
Thank you! No complaints so far. I love it.
I purchased a UTG Pro about a decade ago, and i believe it ran me about $120- 140, so im alittle jealous of this $75 price you got ....lol
I know the feeling
Will this work on a AR Ruger instead of the S&W?
Will the 15 inch version work on a Ruger ar 556?
thanks bro, just got a one!
Awesome, congrats.
thank you thank you
Sweet! I'm trying to swap mine out too!!
☝️😀👍
That's exciting!
New to attachments not new to firearms so bear with me........can you put a rail on the bottom for a grip of some sort is that a thing or do I need to look for a guard with a bottom rail and if that's the case where and what should I look at. Thanks
Yes you can put a M-Lok picatinny rail on the bottom to mount accessories if the accessory isn't M-lok. Here is whats included:
VISM AR15 M-LOK Carbine Handguard
One Short (1.5 M-LOK slots/ 5 slot Picatinny) Picatinny rail section
One Medium Length (2.5 M-LOK slots/ 9 slot Picatinny) Picatinny rail section
Thanks for the video bro but do you know if this fits on most ar or just the sport ? I have a core NATO sport .
I believe just the sport 2
Hi I am having trouble with the mounted front sight ring that held in the old handguard and was wonder how you got it to fit on there. It isn't the sling mount in the way, its the ring for some reason
What rifle are you installing it on?
@@joemartinez7630 I actually figured it out, one of my rails was in the way for install
Are you planning on putting a sight on it in the future ? Looks great I have the same rifle still debating what hand guard to get
I do plan on getting a sight for it. just trying to figure out what to get. i recommend this hand guard based on my experience with it so far. Install was easy and appearance is great!
@@joemartinez7630 When you do get one if you can make a video on it would be great ! I just ordered the hand guard can’t wait till it gets here now I just have to change the horrific fin grip with something “California compliant” an probably throw on a angled fore grip thanks for info though
@@joemartinez7630 Check out 704 tactical for sight reviews.
@@pricelessppp Thanks i will do that.
Sup Joe, I have the Colt LE 6920 with the Delta Ring and A2 front sight block too, do you think this will fit the LE 6920?
I am not sure if this would fit the colt. it sounds like it might. you may have to ask the company.
@@joemartinez7630 good idea, thanx bro
Looks badd ass i love it
Thank You!
I am going to get one. Great Vidy
Thank you
Does anyone know if this will fit the sport 2 that came with the red dot and has the gas block sight post ?
I'd like to see a video where you add the attachments in different positions to see how it looks
Great Idea!
Nice job 👍
Thank you!
I'd just like to get a strap for the standard stock set up
Looks great and great price. After having for a while what are your thoughts now?
I still enjoy it. i will do a update once a get more rounds through it.
I have the M&P sport 2 with the gas block that has an integral picatinny rail and I can’t find a handguard that has the cut out for this, any recommendations on one?
I'm sorry I don't.
Thank you. Happy to get out of 1970
Have you tried mounting anything like a laser on this handguard?? I mounted a Sightmark LoPro and noticed the laser kept drifting. Replaced the LoPro 3 times and same problem. Then I noticed the handguard itself was moving.
I have not mounted anything on it yet.
Thanks for this comment, this is exactly what I was wondering about just in case I was gonna mount a laser. I’m thinking I won’t, at least not on the rail. But should be just fine with a fire grip and flash light at least.
That is just my experience with the handguard. You may have a better fit with yours. Worst case you mount a laser device and it drifts. Return the Vism handguard and get something that mounts better.
This is exactly why I never understand why people would buy a handguard like this instead of a free float and low profile gas block from a reputable company. If you can get away with this and it works awesome but your comment is far from the only one mentioning the handguard moving. If that’s the case it defeats half the purpose of having one because you can’t zero anything on it. I put a low profile gas block and a BCM MCMR on my m&p sport 2 and it works great. More expensive but you get what you pay for
Thanks for the instructional video. Was looking to upgrade the pew pew. Have the same model. One of my biggest gripes was the length then I seen this rail online and they had your video on their website and it looks good!
So I see it’s been a year since you made this. How’s it holding up? Any regrets?
Everything is holding up good so far. i have no complaints or regrets on changing the hand guard. I think changing the stock hand guard is a must!
Does any one know if this will work on a Windham Weaponry flat top ? I have Magpul Pro iron sights on top of my gas block.
Will this work on the optics ready version that doesn't have the a2 front sights on it?
Probably better options than this handguard since you don't have to already deal with the A2 FSP sticking up.
Just ordered mine but I'm annoyed because I already installed the pressure pad on my 6in handguard haha.
Do they make this for mid length gas block AR 15?
I am not sure.
Is there any wobble in yours? I have the same type except in keymod and i have play in the handguard.
I do not notice any wobble at all. It seems very sturdy.
My has a wobble too on my Anderson upper.🤷♂️Have you figured out a fix or mod.I really love the look on it but the wobbling in annoying.
Sweet
It is!!
Nice video! Is this the 13.5 inch version?
YES
My magpul moe handguard seems a bit off from the top too, maybe it’s normal.
I don't have any experience with the Magpul hand guard but the VISM one fits perfectly.
how do i know what size to order. my stock handguard is over 8.5 inches?
Go on the website for the guard and look on the Q&A section to see if anyone has a similar question to yours. You may find the answer there.
Do you need to change the gas block to upgrade to this handguard?
I did not have to on my M&P Sport 2
@@joemartinez7630 do you have a foregrip on yours? Or one you recommend for the original handguard?
@@TheHomestead209 I do not have a foregrip on this.
Can you mount the flashlight to that hand guard?
Yes it is capable of mounting accessories.
I ordered one a few years back and it's got like a millimeter of wiggle vertically but after a while i quit noticing it lol
See I’ve been asking people here on the commenting section if any of them have noticed this wiggle in case I wanna mount a laser, cause if there is wiggle room I’ll make sure not to. What kind of rifle did you put this on if you don’t mind me asking. Cause I wanna put this on the sport 2 like the video.
@@yishaihalpin1121 I actually tried this on two uppers, one was a PSA upper and the other was an M&P, they both had similar amount of wiggle. If the laser is an absolute deal breaker go get a set of free float handguards and chop down your front sight into a low profile block.
Great! and you didn't have to sacrifice your front sight.
It's made just for this model!
@@joemartinez7630 I have the same riffle and have been looking for something like this.
@@nolagospeltracts8264 Mine fits like a glove. Its a nice improvement from the plastic hand guard.
Kinda making me want to upgrade mine
I don't regret it.
I'd like this on my adams arms standard
Midwest Industries all the way homie, Made in the USA 🇺🇸
USA!!
Its been a year are you still liking the handguard?
No complaints or regrets after a year!
Omg I need dis
I don’t regret getting it!
Does it get hot quick? After how many rounds if so?
I have not experienced this issue yet. I normally don't go through to many rounds at a time.
@@joemartinez7630 thank you for the reply, just got mine in the mail today bout to put it on after work!
@@johnnyg3787 Bad Ass! I hope you are as happy with it as i am with mine.
Will this fit on my palmetto state armory carbine?
That completely depends on your overall set up.
Here is the link for the Q&A on the site.
www.opticsplanet.com/questions/questions-vism-ar15-m-lok-carbine-handguard.html?_iv_page=4
Does it make the rifle heavier…?
it does add weight since the stock handguard is plastic. it is not to noticeable but i can imagine it can get heavy over extended use.