Are the Oilers Likeliest to Win the Cup in 2025?
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- They got to the Final this spring, so they just need that one last win to hold the trophy aloft. Is this going to be their season?
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Keep Stu happy, cause he's the kinda guy who'd take a team friendly contract when he's ready
@@BloodRider1914 you know him?
Bowman’s gm he doesn’t know what cap management is
Not if Corey Perry has anything to say about it.
He won it in his first appearance, and it will come full circle. Always does 😉
Jeff Skinner won't even let them make the playoffs
Getting old
@@kengurney5725 lol buffalo was the issue not skinner. now skinner isnt a sabre he will win the cup with the oilers this season just like a bunch of former sabres have in recent years. O,Rielly, Eichel, Okposo, Reinhart and soon to be Skinner.
@@kengurney5725 ... oh oh!
they said it was cup or bust last year, but i feel that is even more the case for next season
I hope The Hockey Guy is inducted into the Hall Of fame some day..his knowledge is exemplary...
Yes, I agree. He needs his name in the Hall of Fame.
He needs to take some of his youtube $ and invest in some visual equipment 😂
“I don’t want Stan Bowman as an advisor, but I’d take Scotty Bowman”
Thanks dude. Any time I hear the name Scotty Bowman you just know he is one of the reasons that hockey is great 👍
@@yoholmes273 he is also the only reason his son was in the position to cover up sexual assault and protect a predator
@@popeluigiNashville has an entire team of predators, disgusting
@@popeluigi You all keep saying that and you know ZERO facts. Did you read the 70 page report from the independent lawyers who reviewed the case? You realize Bowman WAS NOT the perp, right? #2 - he was a ROOKIE GM you know that, right? #3 - HE DID REPORT IT - to his BOSS, and the HR DEPARTMENT, did you know that? Did you know it was then in the hands of his BOSS and the Chicago HR DEPT - and it was those people that COVERED IT UP! Criticize his record as a hockey GM all you want, but he did his time as a 'fall guy' and has done 1000x more for abuse victims in the past two years then you've done you're entire life. You really should read that 70 page report before you start casting stones.
@@KptKrunch9481 or you can admit that he failed to anything more than the minimum required. Then on top of that sucks at being a GM lol
as an oilers fan, i will gladly take any GM that is not Stan Bowman
Please hire Jim Benning
Oilers fan? I feel sorry for you.
Jeff Jackson has to be the GM
@@ronfehr7899Ron you are on deaths door, and I don’t feel sorry for you
You got it, Mike Babcock is going to begin his GM career just for you
Your take on Skinner and trouble about consistency while being really good at times was on point
"I've never seen a goalie go from looking so good to looking so bad"... oilers fans have and his name is Mike Smith
Devon Dubnyk
Would like to see Mark Hunter as GM as well, and also glad to see Pickard get some recognition, and stability as well. Even if he doesn't put up amazing numbers this year or anything, he's a solid backup, which you know what you get with him, every time he's in the crease.
Best of luck this season, to both Stu, and Pickard. 🍻
Those 2 are why I dropped 100 saying the Oilers miss the Playoffs.
The light green marker is hard to read. Maybe only for me but if more have the same issue then it might be an easy fix.
Love the channel and I’m a forever sub.
At first i was like "what green marker"? But holy cow its almost invisible lol
There’s been rumours that McDavid, Draisaitl and Bouchard are willing to take team-friendly contracts and god do I hope they’re true.
Bouchard has to make more than Nurse. Mcdavid and Draisaitl team friendly is going to be 11 plus.
@@ryanmacke150McDaving taking 15 and Draisaitl taking 13.5 would still be extremely team friendly.
@@ryanmacke150and they certainly won’t be underpaid !!
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There’s no chance! With their new GM it’s all down hill from here for a few years for sure. It will be interesting to see what team Leon will go to
😂😂😂😂
@@SirManfly Boston?
Unless he makes a bunch of stupid moves, Bowman has nothing to do with it . They still have a great chance
@@josephfarr2988 With all the contracts coming up he’s definitely going to play a big role. he’s not his dad!! He will mess it up. That’s a fact.
The season is a marathon and as it unfolds there are many surprises. I see the Oilers as a cup contender, but we are still in pre race at this moment.
Oilers will eventually win a cup soon. They keep getting closer and closer and closer.
hi! new hockey fan here and i’ve been trying to learn as much as i can before the start of the regular season! when shannon is talking about the stats of the goalies, what do those numbers stand for? i understand the goals against percentage but do the numbers before that also talk about the number of games played, etc?
I love my oilers. And I want to believe it’s cup time next year. But they always let us down so if we get bounced in the first round I won’t be shocked
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It's odd what the result of a final can do. Naturally I never count on a team to repeat as usually they don't have the drive to win again. Oilers vs Rangers is my pick for the finals but I always wouldn't be surprised to see EDM lose to a team like Vegas/Colorado
More likely Dallas or hell even Winnipeg
Vegas and Colorado are much much weaker then the Oilers are this upcoming season 0% chance that happens
Vegas is bad now
I agree making it back to back to the finals is very tough easier said than done , but for Vegas and Colorado Those teams lost a lot of pieces… if any team in the west is beating Edmonton on paper it’s Nashville
@@BloodRider1914 Im at the point with Winnipeg where until they win a round, I'll always predict them to lose round 1
Too-early-to-tell Prediction: Dallas and Edmonton meet again in the WCF but Dallas wins this time. Dallas wins the 2025 Cup, Benn unexpectedly retires, Jason Robertson named team captain starting in 25-26, Johnston locked up long term now wearing #16
Um….no
sure, sure. The oilers will be 5 minutes left in the game seven SC final up 3-1 and then the rapture happens!!! ARGH!
If they had a solid backup situation like NJ with Allen they would probably be the favourite but Skinner can still get better
He can definitely still get better but I think he’s proven that he’s good enough. I think people are unreasonably hard on him when he really isn’t as much of a problem as SOME of our D-men are 😒 if anyone is going to hold us back it’s going to be them
I want to see Keith gretzky he is out AHL gm he knows what we have.
the difference with the Oilers (in their favour) is McDavid works his ass off to improve his game. That work ethic rubs off on the rest of the team, particularly the young guys, he's similar to Crosby in that way. And polar opposite to guys like PLD, Zegras, Laine, etc.
There is a lot of pairity in the league. Edmonton is at the top or at least very near it. Winning the cup is possible but there are at least 3 teams with an equal probability to win.
All with better goal tending
Love the channel
draisatl and macdavid has to take team frendly deals if they want to win.
Agreeing to play in Alberta is already a team friendly deal. How much more can they expect?
Nurse didnt take a paycut as an RFA. Why should 2 of the best players in the league have to as UFAs?
Sure, u can say the same about the elite talent in all 32 teams. Lol.
They’re the best at what they do, why are they taking random discounts. If they want to do something cheeky, they can take one year deals at $1mil each to join the avs and win. Lol
Not looking likely. Heard Draisetl wants 14m+.
Why would anybody take a discount to live in……Edmonton……Alberta……
Especially when either of them can go anywhere they want, and make as much as they want. I was really surprised mcdavid singed his first contract there😂
still seems like a streaky team to me, but hopefully they can stay stable this season and make a deep run.
Look what happened to Vegas and Colorado after their run
Hopefully Kane is on LTIR until mid april
I hope the Oilers do win the Cup this upcoming year. Their defence is hopefully going to improve again this upcoming year. Not sold on their goaltending.
What you need to win the Cup is staying healthy throughout the playoffs.
Kane is on Robidas Island.
Due to salary cap issues it is this year or never.
I wouldn’t be surprised if mcdavid takes a team friendly deal when it’s time to renew. You know he has wants to stay an oiler and win a cup. If he takes a team friendly deal then they have even more cap space to go get some supporting talent
Seems pretty clear this team is going to have 1-2 more years before their window to win starts to close. Draisaitl's extension is going to be VERY pricey, same for Bouchard's. And then in 2026 they're going to have to be prepared to pay McDavid about $15mil... It's going to be quite hard to build a deep roster with McDavid making ~$15m, Draisaitl making $12-13m, and Bouchard making ~$10m.... And then there's the Nurse contract.
So much depends on skinner. Bad in 2023 playoffs but does a 180 mid 24 playoffs and makes it to the dance was it a 1 hit wonder or is he actually getting better? If its the latter i can see success
I like the Oilers to at least make it back. I think it’s likely they win it IF they make it back to the finals. This is kinda McDavid and Draisatl last shot to get er done unless Draisatl does resign. Personally I think he’d be a fool to stay when he could break out and become a C and 1st
Line center for any team in the league (not captain but 1st line center by far.)
The only place he isn’t top line center is where ? Toronto? Obviously Edmonton 😂. Imagine if Chicago scooped him up on a deal…my gosh.
Hunter has enjoyed the fruits of a franchise in junior that spends more than others. Bryan Lawton should be a front runner imo
Broberg and Holloway will each sign for 1-1.3 million AAV. Once they send down Ryan, Stecher, and J. Brown, they will be cap compliant. If Holloway and Broberg take a couple extra hundred thousand, they can send Perry down instead of Ryan and be cap compliant that way.
Puck Luck, Health luck.. who knows.
keith gretzky or brad holland. we don't need and external hire for GM this time
I hope I'm wrong but no, they're not the likeliest. The simplest reason being: the Panthers defied the odds by making it back to the final the year after losing in the final. No matter how good a team is, there's a reason it doesn't happen very often.
I honestly don't think so. Unless McDavid and Draisetl both stay and can improve from last season's performances. Which is asking a LOT imho.
I doubt it . They kind of dismantled the team
I certainly wouldn’t have have them as the favorites, but they are top 5
Their F are formidable. D less so
yes
Future cap outlook for the Oilers is abysmal. Already over the cap and we're talking about giving McDavid a "huge raise," then of course you're setting a very high bar for Draisaitl. You have Holloway and Broberg as RFA's. Of course, Evan Bouchard is going to need a crazy Canadian-level contract...because players obviously aren't considered good by Canadian standards unless they make over $9m. The hope lies in Kane being too unwell to play...or trading an injured Kane after next February to a team on his list? Or maybe do a Vegas and keep him on LTIR until the playoffs? Additionally, Oilers are paying a goalie tandem $3.6m, which awesome, but maybe not sustainable. I haven't looked at their prospect pool, but haven't heard there is anything with a lot of upside there, other than maybe Matthew Savoie?
Interesting sidenote...no amateur pundits seemed to predict the Oilers hiring Bowman as GM.
I say no because they are not balanced enough as a roster to go back to the Cup Final. A 2nd consecutive year of reaching the Cup Final will be a lot harder. I don't see their playoff path being so easy this year.
Not balanced in what way?
@@Marixa1979 Their d-group is average at best. I give more credit to Knoblauch for how he coached the team to play better team defense. The Oilers defense still has weaknesses that can be exploited by other teams. Stuart Skinner is a decent starting goalie(he still can be inconsistent at times as the Oilers high powered offense can mask his weaknesses), but Pickard is a journeyman backup. It should have been they upgraded the backup.
Oilers are so much better than last year. Not just because of Arvidsson and Skinner, both of whom could easily post career highs in points and goals if they stay healthy, but also because the young players (Bouchard, Stu, Holloway, Broberg) look like they're ready to take another step forward.
Their PK is godly, the PP could be better than ever, the top 6 is ridiculous, the bottom 6 is ridiculous, the forward group as a whole is the best in the league by a country mile, Stu is going to silence a lot of people with his play, the defense should be improved now that Desharnais is finally gone and Broberg is in, and the team is motivated, experienced and hungry. I would expect this team to be an absolute wagon next season, and anything short of winning the cup is an unforgivable disaster.
The only question marks are a) why the hell did they resign Perry, and b) who goes to create cap space? I would think either Ceci or Kane, and I'm fine with either one. Or maybe they just put Kane on LTIR and bring him back for the plaoyffs, Vegas-style. Whatever the case may be, this team is going run over a lot of teams this season.
A lot of Bouch's success is playing with McDavid and Draisaitl on the PP. Oilers will sign all three and people will be surprised how cheap we get them for (not saying they will be cheap). Also, with cap set to be around 100m 3 years from now (without the money pit known as the Arizona Coyotes gone and their 40m deficit a year drain on the NHL teams and assuming UTAH does the exact opposite which is being predicted) Oilers will be fine.
A lot of Leon’s and McDavid’s and Ekholm’s success is also due to the great play of Bouchard ! 🤷🏻♂️
So McDavid isn’t going to miss beginning of season? All I found was he still has a back issue. Nothing about missing time.
Definitely
Well, they do have several ex-Sabres and it seems they go on to win the Cup after leaving so there is that I guess. :D
I'm pretty biased tbh but yes i dont think anyone will keep up with them this upcoming season but i guess we'll wait and see.
After saying the Oilers were cup-capable for the last few years as an Oilers fan, I am scared by the amount of people who think we can win. I -- and the team -- likes the doubt. They'll still get the doubt and hate, but the more the better.
remember what happens for a
2012 Canucks? Lost in game 7 then lost in 1st round next year 😅 Oiler is the next 😂😂😂
Remember what happened last year? Panthers lost in the final but came back and won this year. Whats your point?
Corey Perry is a jinx.
Corey Perry drags teams to the Stanley Cup finals. Leafs only chance to make it out of the Atlantic is to sign Perry!
He’s not, he has a cup
Not anymore. Every Perry finals loss was in his first season with that team.
Probably the best team on paper at the moment. If nischuskin and landeskog come back I’d say Colorado is the favorite
Goaltending and inconsistent play from some of their top D men will be their Achilles heel. They can’t put all the weight on the top 6 forwards and 1 defenseman.
No, I don't think they will make it back. They missed their opportunity.
Favourites to win the cup I recall after 2006 too then they fell off once Pronger left.
Who left that is as impactful as Pronger though lol?
Ok? Who left?
ummmmm..... the oilers in '06 were mostly an AHL team, with a few deadline acquisitions via the TDL, and the fact St. Louis was WAAAAAAAAAAAY over the cap. Even with Pronger, they were a scrappy underdog all post-season. fun fact, that was the first time that both cup finalists failed to make the post-season, the year after. It's far more likely --- given the personnel both on the ice, and off... that we are on the cusp of witnessing a dynasty...?
The 2006 Oilers were nowhere near as stacked, Pronger pretty much dragged them to that SCF.
Heeeeeelllll no, it's rare enough just to make back to back finals appearances outside of Florida teams. The Oilers are too streak based.
Streak based? The Oilers hot streak started on what game 16 and ended in game 7 of the Stanley cup final?
2024-5 Oilers are better than last year’s team, so being Cup favs makes sense.
not an EDM fan or hater. given that the oilers have no GM at this time, with ken holland out and jeff jackson filling in...the double-J did a pretty good job with free agency. most , if not all of their assets are returning.
that said, the oilers best chance for the stanley cup is 2025. once they get the new contracts coming in for bouch-bombs, draisaitl and mcjesus, that's going to be $40m to pay 3 guys. as a team achieves success, guys make a name for themselves and you can't afford to pay everyone what they deserve.
i like that they figured out a way to get rid of campbell's contract. there's still fat to be trimmed, with ceci and nurse's contracts. that's $12-13m of garbage walking around. to stay competitive you gotta make as close to all your salary cap dollars count as you can. if EDM can legally use LTIR to put evander kane there, i say go for it.
for now, barring injuries, i see EDM as the presumptive favorite to be the western rep in the SCF.
Draisatl will be much closer to 14M than 10M, and there is no way on earth they are getting a discount on Bouchard.
Bowman hired. Everyone please speak up. This hire cannot stand.
Literally did a double take when Botteril's name came up. He did inherit a huge mess from his predecessor in Buffalo, Tim Murray.
@@Bowman1999 your wrong, Tom Murray did a great job in Buffalo and had a center core of eichel and orielly. Both won a cup ?? lol
Deadmonton is cursed forever.
To answer the title question: no. not in the slightest. The Oilers still lack scoring depth, they lack a competent defense as long as Darnell Nurse and Cody Ceci are taking valuable roster spots, and their goaltending is still rough, Skinner can be solid but very inconsistent and Pickard should not at all be in the NHL let along as a yearly back-up. They'll make playoffs because they have Draisaitl and Bouchard but they'll be out in the 2nd round probably.
Oilers will win! Can not wait!
If Shannon had waited 24 hours to post this one...
Canadian team and bowman
No you’re wrong. Calgary is winning the Stanley Cup and the grey cup
honestly flames making playoffs is less likely then the oilers winning the cup. and i dont care about the cfl. not until the Eskim, I mean Elks can put together a quarter decent team.
They aren't, because 31 other teams are looking to win the cup too. While several teams aren't realistic picks to win the cup all 31 other teams want to beat them.
Canucks are one addition on D away from wining but as of right now, yes it is the oilers
LOL
Canucks got worse bro
@@michaelkeller5927neutral offseason in Van. They improved their offensive depth, but got weaker on the back end. If they can use their winger depth to land a d-man, they’ll be a better team than this year. They won’t get as many points cuz they were ridiculously lucky in the first half of last season, but they could be a better team in the playoffs (if they get that d-man).
@@djardine2520 they did NOT improve depth.... the got worse, no way debrusk makes up for the huge loss of lindy
@@jamess1021 they got six players, three forwards and defencemen for the cost of Lindy and big Z. That is the definition of improving your depth.
Different year different results not even guaranteed to get past first round gotta play the games first
I honestly haven’t seen anything that has indicated they CAN’T win the cup next season. I think their chances of winning are as good as any of the top contenders going into next season.
If they were truly as close as it seemed... I'd wager they have lost less of their roster than Florida did. So I'd say sure, at least a top 4 favourite.
Inshallah, I hope so
Not any more :-)
It's great to see the multi-decade rebuild has finally produced a decent team .
Hey it worked for the team that just won the Stanley Cup.
Multi decade rebuild. Stanley;cup final game 7 2006. One win from conference final in 2017. How is this multi decade?
Roster, schmoster.
As a Leafs fan, hearing Mark Hunter's name made me go find this Steve Dangle tweet from last year.year:
"Mark Hunter was the Leafs’ Director of Hockey Ops for two years and Assistant GM for two years. That’s his only experience in a *professional hockey* front office. He’s 60, and it’s cool that he’s 60, but if you’re gonna go inexperienced (he is), go young. How is his name out there."
Give Mark Hunter a chance.
As an oilers fan, I’d be so mad if they hire Bowman
I dunno if I'd call them the clear favorites but as long as Leon and Connor are healthy they'll be one of the top contenders every year. Just so much that need to go your way to get there over the course of a season...
St Louis
Bro what? They don't even have a good chance to make the playoffs lmao
inshallah
Nah papa leon and Daddy McDavid want the $$$ and nurse already got the $$$$ 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Quick answer: yes
No way, panthers are far more likely to repeat
Short answer: NO
The Canucks will end the season with more points. Playoffs are a crapshoot. Save this comment.
NURSE...😥
They hired Stan Bowman as GM, so no, no they aren't likely to win ever again. Poor McDavid
He won't affect them that much this upcoming season so they better win it now or never before Bowman screws it up
I would say rangers before oilers
Don't be ridiculous. Canadian teams aren't allowed to win the cup.
NO!
And now, after their GM selection, we all wish they don’t even make the playoffs. Sorry oilers fans
50 /50 ! maybe like Florida, they lose, then win the next year: hopefully Mc Drysaitl does n t have to play with a broken rib ! and finger !
They have a ceiling they are a canadian team so they arent winning it
I hope not!!! I'd like to see them out of the playoffs.
You'd probably like to have hair too, but that won't happen either
@michaelkeller5927 Actually the hair problem doesn't bother me. I saw it with older relatives, so I knew it was inevitable.
As for what I said, I realize that it's wishful thinking on my part. But hey, a guy can dream.