THE TRUTH ABOUT LIVING IN AUSTRALIA ON A WORKING HOLIDAY VISA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
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Hey everyone, I thought it was really important to share this video as I don’t want this channel to just be a highlight reel. It would be great to know any suggestions/ advice if you have also been to Australia on a working holiday visa and how you found the whole process/ experience being out here.
As an Australian citizen here, I recently went through a period of 6 months trying to find any job with zero response. I also have an extensive professional background. I finally managed to land 2 jobs, both of which still don't offer enough hours to live off. Times are tough even for our own citizens.
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I deal with people on WHV all the time. The reality is you cannot "get a job doing doing whatever you want". Employers offering high end jobs don't want working holiday makers because they are too transient. They don't want to train up people who are not settled and will likely move on after 6 months. So sadly, the reality is that you can get work but it is doing the jobs that Australians don't want to do; Restaurant, hospitality (chefs are in demand), cleaning, hotel work, fruit picking, odd shifts. Work in remote areas, rural areas. Plus I agree accommodation sucks, lots of people live in their cars. I used to live in NSW and moved to SE Asia and now work remotely because I found I just couldn't save any money living in Australia. Good luck.
spot on, only bars and cafes take "backpackers"
Thanks for the honesty and sharing your experience.
Here's the irony of your and my situation. I was a physiotherapist in Hong Kong making about HK$80K (US$10K) per month. I left HK 2 years ago and went to the UK where the only job I could get was stacking shelves in Lidl for 11 quid an hour. The long, dark and wet winters are very depressing, but I do enjoy spring and summer here.
Melbourne is a little "better" than Sydney right now. But the big picture on the world is not really promising. Also it is hard to point a good path with little information, yet Australia was always a win for few people, the Australians, the ones that can really adapt for the environment.
If you are a doctor, nurse, engineer, teacher or any professional you need to be a bit more organised before coming to Australia. There is a demand for them, just sort out your qualifications and go through an agency.
Also try elsewhere than Sydney. Try Canberra, Wollongong, Newcastle, Gold Coast, Noosa for smaller regional cities. Or smaller towns if you don't mind semi-rural. There are also the other capital cities. You may simply be looking in the same place as everyone else. Now that Britain and Australia have signed the young workers agreement, the door is open to everyone.
Question: do you get a job before relocating, or do you start looking once you're there?
@@frankwoods6821 Depends on your skills and who your employer is likely to be.
Many small businesses will expect a face to face or less so an online interview and prospect of you starting promptly when they need you.
Put yourself in the position of the employer. Medical staff for example it can be done with documented qualification and recommendations using an agent. There is a high demand for drivers, especially bus drivers and they will even train you, but they want you to be working long enough to cover the time and cost of training you.
@@peterbreis5407 I meant for jobs that young working holiday makers get, generally speaking. Should I get to a smaller town first or apply before I get there. I'm currently in Sydney.
@@frankwoods6821 You failed to say what you can do or what your experience is or how long you are here or whether you are used to hard physical work. So I can only speak generally.
Use the job seeker sites. Talk to other backpackers who may be moving on and leaving a vacancy. Ask in every cafe, hotel, supermarket, shop and have a simple CV ready to give them. Small business people love initiative and people who are obviously eager to work.
Rural jobs are hard work and can be a trap, you are a captive of whatever remote farm job you land in.
Cities are the usual waiting, cleaning, accomodation, super markets etc. Try Canberra which is smaller but still big enough. Less backpackers but within reach of Sydney or other places you might want to explore. Canberra is super prosperous with a bigger demand for workers. But I am not in the workplace so can't give first hand experience.
Bus drivers are in super demand if you intend to stay longer. Like I said they'll train you and modern buses are dead easy, especially the electric ones. If you get bus driver licence, you can get a job just about anywhere in Australia and it goes towards a heavy vehicle licence which means general transport, mines etc..
I feel the exact same in Melbourne! I also find places often take advantage of working holiday people like unpaid trial shifts etc😞 it’s so tough out here and definitely not spoken about enough
aww im so glad to hear im not the only one who feels like this! It really is super tough :(
I needed someone to look after my bed-ridden wife for a few days while I travelled to Melbourne from Peth for my sister's funeral. Had I thought, I would have gone to a backpackers. I was prepared to pay $150 a day for 5 days cash. So food and accomodation included, and use of my car. I don't need my wife looking after any more, but I do need some busy bees to tidy and clean the house that I let go and cannot do at my age. Prepared to spend $2.000
Hi Claire. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I can sympathize with you greatly. Currently in Melbourne on the holiday work visa and disappointed by the job market. It’s even hard for native Aussies to find a job. Everyone is on the casual type of work. Full time is almost non existent. Public transportation sucks, groceries are expensive and the cost of living is ridiculous for the crap that it is. The money isn’t right either. All the talk of Australia having high minimum wage doesn’t matter because after tax and low hours of work you made nothing.I’ve been here for a month and deciding to leave by the end of the next month. It’s just not worth it. I’m a bit upset because I had high hopes and did my research. Printed out copies of my resume, got as many certificates and updated qualifications, saved up at least 10k before leaving the states etc… I feel like I did everything possible and still I got nothing. It’s month 2 now and I’m regretting coming here. If I wanted to struggle I could’ve just stayed in the states. I wasn’t really struggling back home, just working extra hard and wanted out of the “rat race”. I’m glad I saved enough to leave. Hopefully things get better in Australia, but I think it just wasn’t for me. I hate to be a downer and would love to encourage you, but I saw way more cons than pros while living here.
Aww im so sad to hear that! Have you tried a different city? We've recently moved to a smaller city and things do seem better. Might be worth a shot before you give up on Australia and head home?
@@clairemather I was thinking of going to Sydney or Cairns, but I’m quite exhausted at this point. Every move I make is risky. This is supposed to be a “working” holiday visa. I did some of the holiday part and trying to do the working part. If I can’t find a job and have to use my savings to supplement my current living situation, it just seems counterproductive. I feel like I would be better off going home with money to help me readjust than go home broke. I’m trying not to give up. The Facebook job groups are also useless and filled with scammers. Like you said in your video, there’s so many qualified and over qualified WHV holders that are professionals in their home country. They’re coming to Aussie for a supposed “better opportunity” and finding that the golden years are gone. I’ve had a few locals tell me if I came several years ago I would’ve enjoyed my time. Apparently Australia hasn’t recovered from COVID and there’s a transitional period with inflation, food shortages and a housing crisis. There’s really nothing more I feel I can do. I’m also alone and that hasn’t been the easiest on my mental. I wish I had a partner or group of friends to share this experience with, maybe that would’ve helped more. I don’t feel like the walls are crashing down I just feel like they’re blocked everywhere I turn. Having a sufficient amount of savings is what’s saving me. I’ve seen and heard some sad stories of the younger crowd that’s 18-25 that only came with 4K. I’m thankful I don’t have that problem and I want to leave before I have that problem.
@@karzymimi42 Another problem for you is our accepted migration intake and those people need permanent housing and jobs- usually in the city. Go to the country areas onto farms for jobs or to the city for less desired jobs to make money to continue your tourist dreams. My highly qualified daughter had a hard experience getting employment suitable to her qualifications and expertise when she was in the UK.
i am a retired Aussie in my 60s and like a lot of other people living the grey nomad lifestyle we travel this country extensively., We are currently doing a lap right around the mainland with a caravan from the cities, the small country towns to the remote outback regions. There are 2 things that stand out more and more every time we hit the road. The pubs, clubs, restaurants, tourist attractions, resorts, accomodation etc. are all being staffed by foreigners here on some type of temporary visa. The other thing which is even more confronting for me as an Australian is that every service station regardless of brand or remoteness is now being run by Indian staff. How are so many Indians been allowed to come here on temporary visas to do unskilled work we dont even have a WHV agreement with India ? This government is selling out the country as well as the future of young Australians with their BS immigration policies.
Have you tried recruitment companies? Like temp agencies here in the uk
Lol. I'm paraphrasing: "If we have to do a job we hate and have to live in a crappy place because of the price of housing, the benefit of the outdoor lifestyle might not be worth it". Hello. Welcome to 2.5 million Sydneysiders real life. Australia is an expensive place to live and the divide between those who can just afford to live and those who enjoy a wonderful lifestyle without financial worry is getting wider. You love the lifestyle, the beaches etc, which is great, but most locals can't afford to live near the coast. I'm not sure what jobs you were expecting to walk in to on your working holiday visa, but plenty of Australians aren't working in the the fields they studied for, or working to capacity. Unemployment figures are low, but the real figure to look at is 'under-employment'. People only offered short-term contracts, or less hours, part-time, casual status without paid leave. Many people are now working multiple jobs just to cover the increased cost of living. Australia is a wonderful country to live in, with an enviable outdoor lifestyle, but it's not handed out, you have to work hard.
Make a video on Auckland city.
Hi Claire, talk to Kat Turner ( her latest video is up today) they are in Sydney now.
There are many technical jobs opening there as per their government data, computer networking,cybersecurity,programmers,doctors people should consider that.
The problem for you is that you are only available for work for a few months. Employers want long term workers, they don't want to be endlessly interviewing people. Where I work out in the NSW Central West (Orange, Bathurst etc.) There is LOADS of jobs, but the problem is compounded sometimes by the backpackers themselves, who complain about everything, making the employers unwilling to take them on. This is not a black and white issue. If you want to come out this way then you can find work. Good luck with everything :)
A lot go fruit picking, work on farms. I don't know any farms in Sydney.
I would love to work on a farm, ideally with animals too. But be near the beach, do you know where I could go?
What is your name and what are you doing in Australia?
I've come across your video this morning I'm actually looking to do this in 2 years time by that time I will be turning 34 but I'm hoping after spending 2 years in Australia with money saved from there and go on and travel around South east asia 🌏 personally I think being in a city is the worst everyone wanting to be in Sydney or Melbourne alot of competition there I'm guessing why not go further out Try somewhere although when I come over i will be giving up everything here like job and living at home etcc I've known for a long time I wanted to travel but this time I will have total 12 years retail day work and night work so
Sounds like a great plan! All the best 😃
@clairemather you hope find a job out there too all the best 👍
I don't know a lot about Sydney, but I hear its an expensive city to live in. It occurs to me that short term jobs are jobs for people without advanced skills and qualifications, and if every pack backer heads to Sydney because its so nice and sunny and they're all looking for these short term jobs so they can travel and stuff, then its going to be hard to get those jobs. What few jobs there are these days are usually for people who want to stick around for years, otherwise the employer will need to repeat the process of finding workers all over again in 3 to 6 months, which isn't realistic.
Yep totally appreciate that. We're actually in Gold Coast now so hoping that there might be more opportunity here
The economy is beginning to turn with the cost of living pressures and falling consumer spending. It is not as good as it was last year for the kind of work you are looking for.
The first thing i would do , is get out off Sydney , and Job sites like Seek , dont bother with them sites , Crap. Go and see people face to face for work ASK hey
You're on a working holiday so of course prioty will be given to Australians, the tourist or retail jobs pay a decent enough hourly salary with more flexiblity.
Omg, i was planning to go on a WHV in January and now im so worried 😢 im hoping its easier for me because im not plannng to stay in Sydney and id love to work on a farm or something but be near thw beach, do you know where would be good?
Heya! I’m so sorry that my video worried you, that wasn’t my intention at all, it was just to show that it isn’t as simple as turn up, apply for a job and you’ll get offered something straight away ( which unfortunately I think a lot of people expect- I know that was definitely the impression I was under before coming out to Aus from friends and family and social media). There is definitely pleanty of work out there and having been here for a while now, I would say your best chance is to be slightly away from the main tourist ‘hot spots’. I’d say you’re more likely to get something in Queensland or northern New South Wales rather than staying around Sydney. Also don’t apply for things online, if you can go in person and enquire about potential jobs, chat to people you meet, see if they know anyone/ anywhere that’s looking for workers and also try to stay in the same place for at least 4/5 months, that way you make yourself more appealing to employers so that they aren’t just hiring you for a month or two, training you up and then you leave and move on elsewhere and they’ve wasted that time and have to find someone new. Hope that helps and hope you end up having an amazing time in AUS 😃 x
As someone who has hired staff in the past, if you can only work for 6 months you're probably going to have to go for the more transient jobs like retail or hospitality. "Career" jobs are way less likely to hire someone thats only going to be here for a few months.
Also, get out of sydney. It's the most expensive place in Australia.
Yep its totally understandable that they dont want short term staff in 'career' roles, its just tough when it seems really tricky to get roles even in retail and hospitality :/
it takes me an entire day just to craft a cover letter tailored to a freaking supermarket job sigh
Hi 🌳
So is the 88 days rule being scrapped? So I won’t have to do any specific work?
only if you're from the uk!
@@clairemather yes that’s me!
@@finreedequestrianfrom July 1st yea
Jobs in Perth Western Australia
I hate to say that, unfortunately, the job market here is very tough as well. Only very specific areas are hiring.
Sydney would be the last place i would look for a job
The sad truth is that right now isn’t a good time to be moving to Australia because of the housing and job shortages. It all started during the Pandemic when the Australian Government took the position of closing the country for a period of time from everyone, this rightly or wrongly impacted businesses here because of a shortage of workers and customers. When the Pandemic restrictions were lifted plus a more leftist big government administration in Australia was elected, they’ve over compensated by approving almost a 200% increase of the usual Visa quota for the year in 2023, now they are struggling to reverse it as it’s impacting both the housing and jobs market which you are currently experiencing.
door knock and ask there heaps of job they will not came to you
Hi Claire I think your absolutely beautiful😍 I considered moving and doing farm work, but I don't think I can stand spiders and snakes, so visiting would be a better option for me, if I can stand a 12hr flight 🤣 I wish I could give you advise but sometimes reality kicks in and you gotta do what you gotta do and usually the answer is standing right in front of you, and the answer is usually the one you don't want to hear.
There are few spiders and snakes that you would come across. I have lived in Australia for 72 years and have never come across a snake or a venomous spider ! As for hours of travel, Aussies go overseas all the time as we are great travellers and think nothing of doing a 23 hour flight ! It's a 'grin and bear it' attitude. If it's too much, have a stop-over along the way. Aussies living in Tasmania in the south take SIX hours once sighting the northern coast of Australia to get home by plane !
Hey C. M. Hey from Dubai 🎉, you looking cute ❤
As an Aussie I am definately not in favour of bringing in immigrants at the current rate like this government has been doing. Like other countries we still need to target skilled professionals but for unskilled, semi skilled positions or those on temporary student visas the number needs to be cut back and a cap put on it. Popular destinations like Australia, Canada. NZ are all suffering from over immigration it is putting pressure on housing, essential services and other infrastructure. Why would an Australian PM in this current climate sign an agreement with Britain to lift the age limit, extend WHVs to 3 years and remove all the requirements on where they should work ? The sad truth for those arriving on WHVs is that they have also allowed 760,000 international students to come here on temporary study visas and they are also competing for housing and the same type of temporary work. There is more need for labour in regional areas yet everyone that comes to Australia wants to live in the biggest cities like Melbourne and Sydney and with more and more arriving its no wonder that they cant find work. The opportunities for people to come here on working holidays, find reasonably priced accomodation and have plenty of employment opportunites are in the past it seems this federal govt. may have killed the golden goose with their poor immigration policies.
The rest of the world is full of ozzies on working holidays, why can’t you have some back ?
Wish I would have known those numbers before paying and coming to Australia. The situation really is getting out of control for you guys. Will sadly return to Belgium.
Most of the immigrants in Australia are originally from the UK all running away to Australia 🦘 for the longest.
@@iancouper3644 what BS the number of people coming into Australia on WHVs swamps the number of Aussies doing the same overseas. Most countries dont even have WHVs, the number of people in Australia on just student visas is 700,000 so with a country of only 27 million people where are we supposed to put all these people who are arriving on temporary visas.
@@user-bi8wp6wy3l Don’t worry about immigration, none of the political party’s will do anything about it. They like immigration as it brings in more money. Better get used to it in Australia and the the rest of the world. Political parties will promise they will do something but they know most countries need immigration. So they’ll blame something for their plans not working until the next lot get voted in and they’ll do the same.
May as well get used to it. Not gonna change.
That’s how refugees feel. They were doctors etc too in their country and they work at supermarkets in the UK.
Many young folk don’t know how difficult it was in the past to find work, it’s starting to get back to how it was decades ago.
The whole working holiday lifestyle is maybe coming to end.
Snobby backpackers are the worst kind tho
Perhaps it's the way of the Universe to tell you not too stay too long in Australia, I'd worry about the climate changing conditions in the coming years if I were you