Fantastic to have a more content from your RC racing. Even better it’s an Xray which my son and I run, sadly not a 24 yet 😅 Can I ask what pinion you run?
Good review on this buggy and your points are of similar to mine. I got this buggy on the release day, I stumbled onto the shock cap issue straight away (noted to the xray team) when assembling.after 2 meetings they were leaking badly aswell. I found that overall it wasn't as nice a build as the previous 23 car and general overall quality lacked the usual standard you recieve. Definitely penny pinching on the chassis weights, car is way underweight out of the box. Medium plastics too is no good for a carpet car. I ran this for 3 meetings and can honestly say it was a huge let down after all the hype. It isn't on par with the 23 car imo and needs alot of work £££ to get it to the same level.understeers badly and chews front tyres off, I tried a ton of set up and some option parts (1 deg rear toe d block) various other parts and decided that was enough for me and swiftly parted ways. Be good to hear your thoughts after more running 👍🏻
I've given this a proper run today and have to say that my instinct about the front being too stiff and the droop being too limited was right. I run on medium grip carpet (closer to outdoor levels of grip), and by putting the front shocks on the inside hole on the arm, and winding the rear shocks out 2mm I got the steering I needed and a big improvement on the jumps and landings. Overall I'm pretty happy with where the car is after a couple of tweaks, understeer not an issue for me but I am only an average driver. However I will also be selling it, not because of any problem with the car, but because something else has caught my eye...
@@fiveeight0sixsix b7 by chance 🤣... I ran my old faithful xb2 23 today just suits me better. We are all different and different things suit different people. 👍🏻
Interesting car. Just found that they have released this new 2wd! I usually purchase AE but have always heard Xray has an excellent reputation for quality vehicles. Seems like you may have sold the vehicle, but you were talking about the droop on the car. You also have a Three Degree arm setup. It looks like it has pills, so if you wanted more droop without purchasing the arms, you could switch pills to bring the arms in. That would narrow the back of the car a small amount. I don't know if the frame would interfere with the arms at that point but you would not have to purchase the longer rear drive CVs.
Fair point, and I believe I mentioned changing the hub inserts in the video. But then you are also reducing track width. You should be able to make changes in isolation, I want the car to have enough droop and also be maximum width, XRAY don't supply the parts for that in the box, and in fact they become very expensive options.
Good question. Boring answer is that I think all the cars are so similar, and so adjustable, you can get them handling the way you want with only a few small changes. Straight out of the box I think the Yokomo is a better build, but the XRAY has a slightly better setup. I don't have a 6.4, I do have a 6.3 that has never been on carpet, but I'm pretty sure that the carpet setting on that would also be pretty close.
I feel like I should qualify my boring answer. The Yokomo setup is not so good out of the box BUT I think you will spend less money getting a good setup on the Yokomo. The XRAY is missing a few parts in the box that will cost quite a bit to bring it to the "equivalent" racing spec of the Yokomo.
I used to run exclusively Xray for many years but i feel the quality and general ingenuity has been lacking for many years now. Plastic shock caps, plastic hubs, plastic servo horns . Steel turnbuckles, None of it says premium to me and the cars look very bland in black plastic . Even my 10 year old Tamiya db01 RRR has alloy shock caps . I run primarily 8th and it has taken until the 23 model to get quick release diffs . I think I would rather try one of the newer kids on the block like tekno or s workz or sparky if I was shopping for a new rc car . Having said that I do still have a partially assembled 19 spec X-ray xb8e I will finally finish and race this year . Videos coming this summer. Having said all that I hope you enjoy your racing! .
Its amazing all the different platforms by companies look like each other. HB, xray, losi, mugen 2wd buggy's look identical
Fantastic to have a more content from your RC racing. Even better it’s an Xray which my son and I run, sadly not a 24 yet 😅 Can I ask what pinion you run?
21 pinion with a 6.5 motor
Good review on this buggy and your points are of similar to mine.
I got this buggy on the release day, I stumbled onto the shock cap issue straight away (noted to the xray team) when assembling.after 2 meetings they were leaking badly aswell.
I found that overall it wasn't as nice a build as the previous 23 car and general overall quality lacked the usual standard you recieve.
Definitely penny pinching on the chassis weights, car is way underweight out of the box. Medium plastics too is no good for a carpet car.
I ran this for 3 meetings and can honestly say it was a huge let down after all the hype. It isn't on par with the 23 car imo and needs alot of work £££ to get it to the same level.understeers badly and chews front tyres off, I tried a ton of set up and some option parts (1 deg rear toe d block) various other parts and decided that was enough for me and swiftly parted ways.
Be good to hear your thoughts after more running 👍🏻
I've given this a proper run today and have to say that my instinct about the front being too stiff and the droop being too limited was right. I run on medium grip carpet (closer to outdoor levels of grip), and by putting the front shocks on the inside hole on the arm, and winding the rear shocks out 2mm I got the steering I needed and a big improvement on the jumps and landings.
Overall I'm pretty happy with where the car is after a couple of tweaks, understeer not an issue for me but I am only an average driver.
However I will also be selling it, not because of any problem with the car, but because something else has caught my eye...
@@fiveeight0sixsix b7 by chance 🤣... I ran my old faithful xb2 23 today just suits me better. We are all different and different things suit different people. 👍🏻
Interesting car. Just found that they have released this new 2wd! I usually purchase AE but have always heard Xray has an excellent reputation for quality vehicles. Seems like you may have sold the vehicle, but you were talking about the droop on the car.
You also have a Three Degree arm setup. It looks like it has pills, so if you wanted more droop without purchasing the arms, you could switch pills to bring the arms in. That would narrow the back of the car a small amount. I don't know if the frame would interfere with the arms at that point but you would not have to purchase the longer rear drive CVs.
Fair point, and I believe I mentioned changing the hub inserts in the video. But then you are also reducing track width. You should be able to make changes in isolation, I want the car to have enough droop and also be maximum width, XRAY don't supply the parts for that in the box, and in fact they become very expensive options.
@@fiveeight0sixsix Thats true, the setting would reduce track width, but it would only be a small amount.
if you dont mind me asking what weight did you have to bring your car up too and what was the weight it had out of the box roughly?
1474 is the minimum weight. Out of the box with an lcg lipo the car is only around 1400.
Ahh, you were the dude who left early on Sunday. Disappointing.
You could've borrowed my spare esc!
(craig, black yokomo)
Thanks, but to be honest rushing around and borrowing electronics is a bit more than I want to do on a race day!
I got the dirt kit but don’t know which gearbox to dry
High grip packed dirt
You could go either way. I'd probably start with the dirt gearbox and if you lack steering try with the carpet version.
So what’s better out the box, 6.4, Yokomo, X-ray?
Good question. Boring answer is that I think all the cars are so similar, and so adjustable, you can get them handling the way you want with only a few small changes. Straight out of the box I think the Yokomo is a better build, but the XRAY has a slightly better setup. I don't have a 6.4, I do have a 6.3 that has never been on carpet, but I'm pretty sure that the carpet setting on that would also be pretty close.
Nice review
I feel like I should qualify my boring answer. The Yokomo setup is not so good out of the box BUT I think you will spend less money getting a good setup on the Yokomo. The XRAY is missing a few parts in the box that will cost quite a bit to bring it to the "equivalent" racing spec of the Yokomo.
I used to run exclusively Xray for many years but i feel the quality and general ingenuity has been lacking for many years now. Plastic shock caps, plastic hubs, plastic servo horns . Steel turnbuckles, None of it says premium to me and the cars look very bland in black plastic . Even my 10 year old Tamiya db01 RRR has alloy shock caps . I run primarily 8th and it has taken until the 23 model to get quick release diffs . I think I would rather try one of the newer kids on the block like tekno or s workz or sparky if I was shopping for a new rc car . Having said that I do still have a partially assembled 19 spec X-ray xb8e I will finally finish and race this year . Videos coming this summer. Having said all that I hope you enjoy your racing! .
And that's the same with every kit on the market.