New Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk Offroad | Jeep Badge of Honor Trail
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2023
- In this video we head out to Uwharrie National Forest on another event of ours. Join us as we get to see the new Jeep Grand Cherokee in action on the Jeep Badge of Honor trail Dickie Bell. We were also Joined by 2 Gladiators, a wrangler and a 4 Runner. See how they did on these challenging trails.
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For more flex/suspension travel in the WL, the suspension has to be in the second to highest setting. More travel means more traction. This also will help make use of the disconnectable sway bar. The highest setting is meant for clearing an obstacle a tall obstacle then going back down to the second highest level. Also if he was in 4 Low, the transmission starts out in 2nd gear so the driver will have to manually shift in to 1st if they want lower gearing in 4 Low.
Glad to see a new WL out having fun.
The WL did good! It took some technical lines and made it through. Tire size and it’s weight are definitely a limitation, but for 99% of the stuff out there the Trailhawk can do just fine and still be a civil drive on the road as a daily driver. I hope that guy enjoys wheeling it!
It weighs less than the WK2 platform
I like these videos you guys make and thank you for showing the GCTrailhawk (I have the 2013) ..but who ever put a cable hook New Grand Trailhawk tow hooks is not the best idea. Rope hooked to cable OK. If you can avoid ....I bet his rubber protection on the new RED tow hook on the Drivers side may be scratched? I say this since it happened to me. Rope when necessary cable when Mandatory (my rule 1 in towing)
Appreciate the WL coverage.
Mo Men Tum...I know, easy to sit here on my couch. But man, a little energy to carry you through. Thanks for the video.
I love what you all do I do trails with my 2014 grand cherokee limited
‘24 WL74 here never off road before. Can’t wait to start!!
Can't wait to make my way out there with my GX. Got a lot of out of town trips but home to be able to join a group out there. Maybe late june or July.
I’m bummed I missed this one. Looks like a great day in the trails.
Missed ya!
Really good video. Also nice to see Brad wearing proper footwear.😃
one thing i have learned on trails is momentum is your friend i believe that's why the GC was having such issues. I know he was making sure he had clearance but alot of the struggle was stopping on the hills with mud which makes things alot more tricky. I just traded in my Gladiator for a new grand cherokee myself and im enjoying it so much have been on a few trails with her and im impressed. I do have the Rocky Road lift on mine and 34's it has amazing clearance and so much fun on the trails.
Which trim did you get? Trail hawk? How’s the air suspension if you did?
Still like wk2 need new tires looking at ko2s
I'll still take a 4 runner if im off-roading. If you want a venture to the off beaten trail... drive a jeep.
If you want to make it back.....drive the 4runner.
I've watched a few of your videos, and there's a few GCs that have Toe Hooks with a Bull Guard added. For a 2019 GC, I've been looking for to add a Bull Guard with the Existing Toe Hooks. Do those that have both of these customize the Bull Guard?
the trailhawk final drive ratio of 47.4:1 better than the 4 runner! seems the 4 runner struggled due to old crap tires and not airing down enough. easy fix.
I should have waited 2 years for this version. Instead, I got the Rubicon 4xe. P.S I had a 2014 Overland
It was great seeing it in action!
Articulation is the key as to why some of the Jeeps made it up the obstacle. FYI when you spot, use one form of directives, driver passenger or hand signals. Try not to go back and forth.
Whats the difference in tires from the 4runner/grand cherokee and the wrangler/gladiators?
Question, does the new trail hawk have trac or drive for traction control?
I have a Gladiator Rubicon, all stock suspension and tires, will I need a lift to do this trail?
You ever come to New England and do any trails?
The tire problem should be an easy fix with a spacer
Who exactly put up those half-assed guard rails? Look kind of shabby, but what's the purpose of them?
Is the TH 2022 or 2023 ?
I would like to see how your WK2 will do on that trail to compare WL and I notice that you not driving your WK2 on the trails.
We have two videos of our wk2 on that trail. We were they last year in it and the year before.
Other than towing and breakover was there anything that your Grand Cherokee Trailhawk did better than the gladiator off-road? I'm just wondering if there were any anomalies. I'm also curious about the new one.
It's surprising how much understeer that red 4runner had on that obstacle. You could reduce the understeer by putting it in two-wheel drive that would definitely induce oversteer. I don't know if he would have moved forward but something to try if you can't steer the vehicle actually take it out of four-wheel drive and the rear wheel drive will help the back end come around.
It's a suspension balance issue. Tinker's adventure talks about it with the FJ. You need either independent suspension all the way around or solid axles all the way around for balanced suspension based on what I've seen.
As for disconnecting the front sway bar, people have to remember that that actually reduces functional ground clearance so if you don't really need the flex and you would rather have the clearance I would leave it connected.
WL Driver here. I felt for the most part I could follow the rest of the group everywhere. I havent driven it off road much, so I think some of the issues seen may also be inexperience and some caution on my part. Mud was my kryptonite lol. Bigger tires or a small lift, and additional underbody protection would have made it easier I think. Those are issues for the WL since there is a lack of aftermarket support for it right now and some technical issues caused by Jeeps design.
@@alex-ng1ij yeah. I have a video or two where when I have a wheel chock on two tires and I'm in the mud it has problems. I actually found that 26 PSI is pretty good for the regular Cherokee Trailhawk. When went to 22 , I lost some side to side control. Granted , my tires are mild all tetrians so I need the bite.
My next tires might be the venom power terra hunter. These are some of the most aggressive tires available for my vehicle if you don't go with a 32. I don't know what's available for yours but that's a pretty aggressive tire. My friend has those on his Tundra and they have amazing grip. I would say they grip probably better than my Cooper AT3 4S tires on gravel and mud.
I don't remember if the new Grand Cherokee Trailhawk has crawl control "selec speed" But one thing I thought of doing and I'll probably make a video about it is to find a hill where I barely have traction and put it in crawl control at the lowest speed and then test all the different tire pressures that I want to test and just see which one works best and that should give me my answer because the crawl control creates a really scientific way of doing it because there's so much speed control and it's a computerized test basically. I haven't seen a video of anyone doing that so I'll have to do that . Feel free to steal my idea lol.
@off-roadingexplained8417 What is your tire size? Thanks.
@@Andremx12 I'm running 265 65 17. (30.6 inches) with a 2 inch teraflex lift . 0.75 inch wheel spacers . This is a regular 2016 Cherokee Trailhawk not a grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Very minimal fender liner rub , no suspension arm rub (because the wheel spacers fixed that completely) no pinch weld mod or trimming. Breakover angle after lift and tires is 28°. Approach and departure are both over 35° or higher. I also added 1.25 inch spring rubbers in the front and 1 inch spring rubbers in the rear. This causes NO change to ride height but does improve functional (while moving) ground clearance due to the fact that it basically converts the suspension to progressive rate. Handling is also DRAMATICALLY improved. I also use a front strut tower brace as the one for the dodge dart I'd an identical match.
Off road tire pressure is 26 PSI , on road is 29 PSI (this is the correct street pressure with the larger tires according to load inflation tables. This holds the same load or more as the stock tires did at 36 psi).
Interestingly, I had no loss in corner travel index at 22 psi even though the springs are stiffer with the rubbers. I can't explain it but that was the result.
@@alex-ng1ij Props for taking it off-road. What was your tire pressure on the trail?
Its a shame the ELSD in the WL platform doesn't work as well as it does in the WK2 platform
Its sad that Jeep only produced this Trailhawk (WL) model for 1 year. It's now only available as a 4xe/Hybrid which has more weight and significantly higher price and reduced payload.
Yep. They kinda killed it.
Wrong tires, that Carolina mud mite as well be snow,, a very aggressive mud terrain is needed
31:05 we are all new at one point, so I am not hating by anymeans, but the nonchalant look, arm out the window and one hand on the wheel while doing technical stuff like this, is a great way to ruin your day and fork out some big bucks for broken parts down the road
That new grand Cherokee is beautiful but if those 33” tires are as big as you can go that definitely changes the game
33? Those are 30.5” tires
i have one you can put 35's on with the lift
Would you say that the WL has better articulation than WK2?. Also, it seems to me that Quadra Drive 2 is a little bit slower in the WL than WK2.
I really didn’t see a difference between the two outside looking at it. I didn’t drive it though.
@@ProdigalOverland interesting. I thought sway bar disconnect could give the WL an edge.
New Trailhawk have a 3.7 or the Hurricane?
It’s got the 3.6. This year you can only get a trailhawk in a 4xe. So this one is rare now.
Does the new Trailhawk have a Hemi engine?
Yes
Is this the EV Trailhawk?
I have a 2020 5.7L Hemi Trailhawk in Sting Gray with is a Color that I just LOVE but I was told that Jeep had dropped it on the Grand Cherokees. My Trailhawk is fully loaded that I love and has been keeping up with many Rubicons as long as the trail does not get too Crazy since I am still running the Factory Tires but I have assisted a few NEW Broncos that have gotten stuck and I have pulled them out with a tow strap.
Yep. Only available in the 4ex configuration. Not sure I trust Jeep electronics.
@@weirdshibainu SAME here! The Uconnect NAV Touch Screen is starting to Delaminate on my Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and I only have 17,800 miles on her! I do not trust EVs or Hybrids for Off Roading too many things that can go WRONG! Give me good old Solid Engine like the Hemi V8 or the P-Star V6 even the Older But 100% Bullet Proof 4.0L Inline 6 that all Jeeps had from the early 60s to the early 2000s is allot better than EVs. The New Hurricane Twin Turbo might be fine for an Alfa Romeo Sports Sedan but that is not the type of Engine you put in a JEEP and if that is the way the Brand is going we are going to see an ICON go the way of the Dinosaurs and that is a SHAME!
@@af22raptor23503 Yeah. Subjecting complicated electronics to off road abuse seems like a recipe for failure. Sorry for your troubles.
@@weirdshibainu I have only taken my Trailhawk off roading a few times. The Touchscreen came delaminated due to Central Florida Heat and Humidity. For what I have read on different forums the Touchscreen issue is across all platforms Chrysler, Ram, Dodge and Jeep that used the same 8.4 inch UConnect.
31:12 OOOOF
@6:40 when you are realize it needs a bigger tires that is hard to fit into Cherokee
4Runner did well
He does a great job!
seems like the wk2 trailhawk is superior to the new one.
The fact that that don't offer a rear locker in these is flat out pathetic on jeeps part 🙄🤦
The last real "Jeep" was the TJ (the JK and JL's are absolute trash underneath except for the Transfer case and the axles, everything else is mini-van garbage), this is just more cute-ute junk from Fiat. As always, if you want the best 4wd you buy or built a TOYOTA.
Toyota is crap
Wish I had money to fix issues from driving like this but I live in NY and Biden’s the President so everything’s triple the money lol
Guys you you ought to have seen the real off road in Russia. Try some videos and you ll realise that your trails and routs are baby stroll😂