Night bird players deserve it tbh 😂 Honest I always take it upon myself to focus them and shoot them down every time I see one. They r so overpowered and most players can’t aim well enough to hit them so they basically never die if you just trust ur team to take care of it. So I take the “if I don’t who will” approach
Every single one of u should start to realise that annoying the heli gets u killed cause the pilot wanna make sure u won’t shoot 1 more rocket at him. Go cry somewhere else🤣
@@jzryc Every single one of yours should realise that annoying the infantry will just get you shot out of the sky because its not hard to down any heli with an M5 recoilless launcher boi. We'll make sure you regret getting in that pilot seat every time. Go cry somewhere else🤣🤣
As an Aussie I often see Ashe in matches and it feels like your whole team is just getting farmed. Sure you can be good at something in the game, more power to you, but to have a 100-2 KDR screams of a broken mechanic, and the little bird has always been OP in the right hands. When it gets to that level of imbalance the whole team starts hunting him down. I'm a reasonably good wildcat operator and when he's in the bird I feel like its my duty to hop in the wildcat and just camp around the map and focus exclusively on him, to either kill him or at least protect some airspace for my team to the detriment of what else I'd rather be doing in game. So the fact he starts getting Liziled en mass I'm not surprised at and is really just imergent gameplay to counteract the threat that he is. You can't blame people for that, they're fighting against an imbalanced vehicle. All the other stuff about stream sniping and bullying etc is of course unacceptable behaviour and despicable but if the little bird wasn't so good at the top end of skill levels I doubt any of this would've happened in the first place. I can't remember off the top of my head if like the stealth heli's that got nerfed and now have to choose between having flares or repair function, I think the bird can still rock both, really it too needs to choose from either, not have both, forcing good players to hide for extended periods after they've taken damage.
Totally agree. He never gets out of the night bird. I don't harass him, but I will get the rockets out as I get sick of not being able to move in the game without him killing me and everyone else.. it destroys our enjoyment, so maybe he needs to stop complaining and try playing in something different or infantry..
Yeah I think people who get good at the night bird don’t know how much of an apathetic play style it is. That and they’re not capping flags. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen a night bird kill over 80 players and still lose. What they’re doing is sending players back to flags that are being capped at a higher rate than usual. I don’t enjoy camping but I’ll do it on flag if I’m one of the only people there, or I’m out of smokes. But most of all I’m attempting to win the game. Which these night bird farmers don’t understand. Why get good at something that’s obviously a glitch while also not trying to win the game or challenge yourself? Post 2042 debut no one is saying “good kill night bird”
I had a feeling this was the issue. Completely don't agree with the username use and that aspect but don't blame them ganging up on you when you wreck the game and team by staying in the Nightbird.
@MrCoconutv3 well, I don't consider myself a top infantry player. I just like playing the game and not getting killed by a chopper 20 seconds out of spawn.
But hear me out if I had 5 or 6 servers available and every day I played someone in a nightbird killed me every 2 seconds that'd ruin the game for me too
Teaming up to take Ash (and others like him) out in-game? Sounds like an inevitable consequence for content creators who think the game exists for their own self-aggrandizement. Plenty of videos where streamers love to be OP and dominate using jets, helos, etc and promote their own massive kill/death ratios. Sounds like a part of the community is tired of it and are fighting back. The only harassment offense I see here is the use of his dead friend’s name…ban-able offense that, IMO. But, so long as they aren’t hacking, I don’t care if a team of Davids have gathered to take out the Goliath who ruins the gaming experience for the average person who just wants to have fun playing the game.
The guy have been caught using mouse macros and some other tools to put him in advantage against other players. He gets stream sniped because players are tired of it. The dead friend name thing was too much and totally uncalled for. But in reality, what Dice can do about this? The streaming platform is totally outside of Dices scope and they have no jurisdiction there. He can stop streaming but that is not feasible for Ashe. Is a gray area that I am sure Dice is not even going to take action against it.
Streaming is not in their control however the harrassment itself is taking place on their platform, so yes it is DICEs problem, they even list it as a reason for their report because of that. Regardless what he uses, harrassment is not only unethical, and is likely to lead into worse avenues if not dealt with. Its not ok for people to do it in any circumstance.
I'm two sided on this. Seeing how this dude plays in that littlebird is devastating for infantry. Air vehicles are blatantly overpowered in every battlefield they're in. It's NOT fun for the infantry being farmed and it ruins the gameplay for ground troops. When people complain about that they get the same responses. "Get good". "Get a launcher". "Work together to take it out". And that's what's happening here. A bit extreme but it isn't so fun anymore when a good portion of the team continues to work together to destroy your air vehicle now is it? That said though, the following is uncalled for especially naming yourself after someone who killed themselves. That's scumbag level bullshit that I would ban for under principle. All that aside though, you don't get this level of harassment without doing something to attract it. The way dude is playing ruins the game for a LOT of ground players. Like I and many other literally leave games when this shit happens or there's a condor flying around being an unkillable gunship. It's bullshit and that's what attracted the hate to begin with. Now I know the next question being "How can you punish someone for being genuinely good?" which, fair enough. You can't prevent the players from banding together against you. It's the other things they're doing though though that make it unconscionable and perma-ban worthy. What even can dice do? You can't stop people from joining on someone to get in a game nor can you punish those people for killing you repeatedly. I guess with revives you could do what they do in other battlefields and put you in a gray screen with accept or deny so you can just skip the revive and go to the score screen or something but there's really nothing that can be done outside of playing on those persistent portal server things.
Using his deceased friends name is messed up, harassment and trolling is not cool either.. However from someone that plays on those servers and has watched his streams i can tell you some facts. To start with i cant believe this is even getting reported and made into a thing (Beyond the harassment), as he does not deserve the attention. He cries when people team up to try take him down.. well shall we just let him go 100/0 plus every game or try combat him?. He really hates it and has a massive whinge on his stream, expects to fly and ruin servers with impunity. He also has been known to camp the uncap multiple times, and also has been caught using macros on stream to grab the chopper while he was AFK. Again, not condoning any harassment, but don't take this guys narrative 100 percent and feel sorry for him. Once a cheat, always a cheat. The core issue here however is not Ashe, it is the broken Night Bird- flies so unrealistically with zero weight or momentum. Also pilots should not get rewarded so many points for just getting easy kills and not capping flags (like Ashe who generally has zero), 1 point for kills with vehicles on infantry instead of 2 and they would have scores in parity with Infantry and not annoy people so much.
Agree with your comments. DICE should nerf the unrealistic flight characteristics and put a limit on ammo carried. All vehicles for that matter should be required to resupply ammo at either a designated location and/or a mobile supply truck.
The way they do it deserves a ban but if you only fly the most OP heli in the game, consistently ruin the game for 64 players in a region where player numbers are low so that people cannot really escape from it and even make money with it, then you cannot expect much sympathy either.
@@ShaDoWxGaMeSChannelMore often than not you get team mates who don't know how to deal with good pilots. I've got Lis on Tier 1 already and let me tell you, it's not much fun to dedicate your whole play time just to kill pilots.
Well, you know it’s hilarious! Aside the bad joke with his friend death, all the other was fun stuff! Really liked that all of them attacked him in coordination. We have lives, we have families, we have little kids, and when we would like to play for 30-60 minutes to get away from everyday routine is a PITA to have someone nerd in a little bird raping the whole team!! So, no, I don’t feel pity for him.
3 Points: 1. Teaming up and targeting a single player like this, and doing it constantly, is bullshit. And the revive thing is completely unacceptable under any circumstances. 2. Hogging vehicle jocks are a complete nightmare for the rest of the players in a game like this, especially those flying aircraft like helicopters and jets whose flight characteristics are ten times more divorced from reality than the rest of the characters and vehicles in the game. 3. To avoid both 1 and 2 above, game developers should place more realistic limits on what such vehicles can do. At the end of the day, to create a vehicle which can, through enough practice, become virtually impossible to counter, is to invite player apathy and the kind of backlash we see here. I have tried shooting one of these choppers down after being killed by one a dozen times in a row and getting very pissed off about it. If the pilot is good enough, the task is pretty much impossible. Some of these "aces" have so thoroughly internalized the game metrics involved in shooting them down and developed the tactics to avoid it that it becomes a joke. The moral implications aside, perhaps it's worth asking just why it took practically an entire clan teaming up with AA launchers to keep this guy out of the sky. Rant over.
I play in the OCE servers. I would like to enjoy my game as well. In the OCE community we always have just player who decides to concentrate on one vehicle and farm everyone else. It happened in BF4, BF1 and BF5. I will not name names but everyone in the OCE community know the players I am talking about. It comes down to balance and the lack of it. As soon as the infantry have the upper hand over vehicles the weapon becomes nerfed. Fliegers is probably the best example in BF5. Some players love to exploit the in-balance and have fun at the expense of other players. I know this opinion will not be very popular.
Yep I agree. I'm an OCE player and after being farmed by ASHBF so many times, tend to spend most of my game trying to down his nightbird. I don't think the game is improved by anyone with a 120+ score at the end of the game.
When devs make overpowered or broken mechanics / weapons / vehicles in a game it's up to players to refrain from using them. DICE have no clue on how to balance infantry and vehicles (especially air vehicles) as seen in the past 3 BF installments where anyone PTFOing onto objectives is just farm meat for pilots who don't care that they're ruining the experience for a whole team by abusing this terrible imbalance; I consider this extreme toxicity. Only way to stop it is to end the PTFO and turn into an anti-vehicle player, but that's not the point of BF and is no fun at all. So I fully understand when some people die one too many times from the air over and over when they're just trying to play the game. I have very little sympathy for this guy, how many rounds has he ruined for countless people? Doesn't feel nice when you die with nothing you can do about it, hmm?
L take. Get better. Get on their level with the same or another vehicle or learn how to counter. Get yourself good players to play with to counter better players. If hes ruining peoples match its all their fault anyways, blame yourself for being bad not others for being good. Backwards ass mentality. Especially when its only 1 player whos solo with no friends, even more reasons why you are wrong. He can get targeted by 60+ people if needed, if 60 cant take on 1 its all your fault for being bad. And btw the whole point of vehicles is to be stronger than single players, the catch is you got a cool down when you die and you cant respawn back in instantly unlike infantry who can literally spawn in every 10secs and overwhelm with numbers, skill is not even needed if you got numbers or basic PTFO to counter 1 player. Also infantry have strong enough counters that allows them to solo vehicles, so I dont see how can yall complain when you can sit with Lis 400m away and one shot helis and jets while being completely safe.
Exactly, the little bird is very OP at max skill levels. It needs a nerf, always has. Prehaps force the pilot to choose between flares and repair, not rock both.
i have played a couple of games with him not stream sniping, but it brings a lot of people to actully do nothing but taking action against him with AA because it ruins the experience for everyone else.
I don't get it. Dude kills everyone over and over in his broken heli - good. People get tired of it and turn the tables - bad, bad! Scandal! If anything I admire the rare instance of many people working together to achieve something.
@@roshaanreddy8107 that sucks, but is also mentioned once for a second, while the whole video is about people shooting him down. Helis are broken. They might work if the game had some teamwork, hut it doesn't. DICE balances vehicles around how the game is supposed to be played, not how it is played. The fact is in a random match, a heli main is basically untouchable and frustrating for everyone. Nothing should be able to go 60-0 in a somewhat balanced game.
@@athmaid who made him play video games for a living? Them using his deceased friend and making it impossible for respawn is not cool, but shooting him down constantly? That's just a taste of his own medicine.
So the question really being posed is: is it right for many people to make one guy miserable, or is it right for one guy to make many people miserable? I'm not gonna kick the guy while he's down, but there are moments in gaming when you turn off your inner kill robot and just have fun. Your guy who is making whole teams miserable needs to find the off switch and LET people have fun. From a game perspective there are many options to nerf Little Bird spammers: have them run out of gas, change AA missile ammo counts and behavior and so on. Bottom line, your guy is not just the victim here.
Keep in mind that I don’t know who AshBF is, but it’s not his fault that he’s developed the skill to be as effective as he is. Is it okay for less skilled poker players to cheat against more skilled ones because they haven’t put the time in? It’s not okay.
@@kelseydonoghue158 If it's all about his skill level, he can satisfy everyone else and himself by playing against AI lobbies. But we're talking real people here. If I'm dropped into a noob lobby and start rolling I don't keep my foot on their neck. At some point you need to recognize that not everyone is on your level and you are depriving them of having some fun. For most humans, depriving people of fun is undesirable. So I take my foot off the gas and let them get their shots in, maybe kill me a few times and hopefully they start having fun. For those who are too young to remember this, back in the day when you ran across a guy like this in an arcade who was exploiting game mechanics to shit on ppl you'd stop playing, put your quarter up on the screen and take a step back and let them play by themselves until they were done. This guy needs some of that.
While using a dead mates name is taking things way too far, I don't have a lot of sympathy for streamers getting sniped if their actions are ruining the game for everybody else. OCE has a few really skilled chopper pilots and I've seen them empty servers. Why do we need to have our game ruined so they can get views?
It seems streamers are happy putting out 150 kill 0 death perfect round nightbird videos with other players feeling 'griefed' by the nightbird pilot. But when the streamer is being 'griefed' you want to cry to your mom. Lets get real here 'It's just a game' do you think footballers start crying when they are marked by 2 or 3 players all game? No they are adults playing big boy rules. Stop whining like a little child, "If you cant take a joke you shouldn't have joined the army".
Lmao I can tell you are one of them bots who gets farmed in pubs 24 7. If a skilled pilot gets on streaks its all your fault for allowing it, since you are shit at the game. The pilot still doesnt know where you are on the map nor he literally prefires your location or straight up spawnkills you. Hes getting targeted by 20+ people who know EXACTLY where he is in the map at any given time and do not give a shit about the rest of the match, they kill him upon spawning in, than loop him in a revive limbo he cant escape if he goes infantry, unless he quits the server. You are just mad you are a bot at the game. And btw killing helis with Lis is the easiest thing ever, but this comunity REFUSES to get better at the game and instead of blaming it on themselves, blame it on good players. Get on their level or learn to counter them. There is a dozen counters to the nightbird right now in the game so if someone goes on 100+ killstreaks its all your fault, not the good players fault. If you think you are a "big boy" than dont complain about getting wasted by a Pilot whos leagues better. What these guys are doing isnt "countering" a player, they are pin pointing his exact location on the map at any given time by watching the stream and prefiring his position. Thats not a normal or fair scenario when playing the game. The Pilot or any good player who doesnt cheat doesnt know were the enemies are while his stream snipers do. Doesnt take much brain cells to figure it out. This is all coming from a guy who doesnt like Ashe btw.
Seems like an easy fix would be to delay the stream to the max allowed on Twitch, 5 minutes. Using his dead friends' real name, however, is unforgiveable. For this reason alone, these trolls should be banned.
That essentially gives you 5 minutes of peace. If you take notice of the amount of people doing it to this guy...all they have to do is all queue...check scoreboard when they get into a game and then call over the rest (you just have to press "join" on them in friendslist). It doesn't help him he's in an underpopulated area (BF2042-wise) since that just makes it easier to find his games as there are less options.
@@ashanisyra4784 Gotta admit, I really don't know much about the streaming world. I would imagine that trolls like these would be difficult to manage in any game.
@@ashanisyra4784Alternatively he could maybe use VPN. South America servers are also underpopulated in specific game modes and I use it to connect to North America or Europe.
i) Adding a 5 minute delay will destroy his stream, since he would be unable to interact with his chat ii) Adding a 5 minute delay still doesn't help as 2042 has a tiny playerbase, and places like OCE only have like 1-2 lobbies going at the same time so the snipers can always find him whenever they want
Honestly i can see the revive function being harrasment but the lis missiles is a different story. If you have a pilot in the air that can litterally farm the whole server it makes it unenjoyable to play. So litterally they are just banning togeather to get rid of the biggest threat to the game in this case ash.
For 10+ months with 20+ ppl who also are in his team? Thats griefing and not a realistic scenario. They are also pin pointing his location by watching his stream and targeting him. When Ashe or any other player for that matter, play, they dont have a way to know exactly were their enemies are in the map at any given time. They dont give a shit about winning or losing the match either nor about having a good time. They join solely to kill 1 person. Its not hard to understand. The fact you even got likes only shows the comunity is on massive copium. Just get good at the game and counter "sweats".
@@IlNamelessKinglI if there was more proof to support that claim that they only taeget him beyond these 20 second clips of him in a nightbird, like seriously if this guy just waits around a whole game to use a nightbird. Like they spam the lis rocket BECAUSE HES IN A HELI, which is the #1 way to get rid of these. You dont see clips of him on foot with this kind of spam only in helicopters. Like what is a medic supposed to do to get rid of these farming people. Nothing! Litterally you only have 2 real options in dealing with these people. 1 being the m5 if you can aim and the same goes for the lis rocket. This is nothing more than a team getting rid of enemy air. Now for the revive and freind name thing, that shits wrong and these people should get banned for that offence. But the lis rockets no.
@@lonegun4078 🤦🤡 I literally saw one of the streamsnipers upload 2 videos on YT, that are like, 3 4 5 mins long each, of him killing Ashe. Its not just "20secs". Yeah in most of those clips hes in a Scout Heli, so what? And you only make me laugh with your "medic" statement. Lis, Stingers, Soflams, Thor tanks, Jets, MAA, Lis, the 50 cal sniper, Railgun, Tows, AA stations, and so many more counters are in the game to kill Nightbirds and other helis. This streamer plays solo most of the time and servers get up to 60 players in each team, you are telling me 30 to 60 people cant stop 1 single player from farming? With the dozens of counters in the game? Thats all YOUR FAULT. Its not even a debate here, you arent powerless when facing helis, yall need to learn what team work, ptfo and counters are. Also BF was never about infantry only. Every BF player should know how to atleast use 1 or 2 vehicles, if you cant, its all your fault for not adapting
@@lonegun4078 Have you checked his VODS in twitch? Yes he goes on foot, but each time he does that, he either gets lizzed and shot down by a 5 to 13 man squad everytime. But he can go againts them easily right? Also about getting rid of nightbirds, liz, soflams, Flak (Brawler, Recon buggy, hovercraft), AA tank, Railgun, Railgun tanks, AA missles, Condor, Hind, Jet, Rocket launchers (I feel like the rockets got faster, making it easier to kill the nightbirds). There are alot of ways to kill the nightbirds, it just seems like you and your team didnt try enough.
Aside from the Lis missiles, the quickest way to get rid of the nightbird is with the new AA flak canon. It can kill one in seconds. If I can't get him easily with the lissile, I just call in the jeep with the AA and take care of business. It's a beast that I hope they don't nerf.
I think one of the big issues is that because when there is so little servers in Australia when you play the same time as him every game you come up against him. I’m from Australia and so many times I have stopped playing because Ashe is on. If you only came up against a player like that every so often you wouldn’t notice him.
This is what the defenders of him don't seem to get. They wine about his game being ruined but say screw all of the people who he ruins games for. Imagine how many people can't enjoy a game of Battlefield because this dude is terrorizing them all game long. They're the same people to moan about team play and say it's the core of the game and yet have no issue with a single person wiping entire teams.
I think the Night bird should be removed,those tiny helis just farm blueberrys....I've played engineer just to take them down....Lis rocket can't get them,and they run and hide and crack flares when you get a lock on .....Rinse and repeat, whole match
it is also pretty abusive to just be camping on a heli, killing every player on ground, that is also harassment!!! that guy just take a shot of his own medicine!!!
LOL wouldn't it be funny EA comes to the aid of ASH to try help him... and it turns out he's cheating... I watched 100-1 video he just posted not long ago and all through the video his latency indicator has him in the RED at 225 yet he has no lag at all... I find that peculiar
I play from South Africa, and I also have all the counters on red lol, but I usually won't actually lag unless my connection is unstable. If he has an otherwise stable connection, no hiccups in available bandwidth and network traffic stays normal, it should also be fine for him, too.
Being honest though, most pilots on this game abused the living shit out of macros to certify their spot in a heli everytime and the 3rd missile glitch, and other exploits to climb the leader board and typically talk shit if you use anything except a silenced pistol to snipe them out of their vehicle, I have no sympathy for any one trick ponies
Meh. Apart from their changing their name to same as his friend, Ashe deserves all the hate directed at him. Toxic behaviour by Ashe begets toxic behaviour.
Vehicle only players have it coming for them. If they're gonna ruin your day, might as well get revenge. I think it's great that he's being constantly killed, it's good team play - gang up on the most dangerous threat.
go back to COD if you dont like vehicles, he spents a thousands of hours in heli and ofc he is very good. So you can go even in super mario its for players like you, crying babies in reddit.
Not a real issue for the average player. This is a TH-camr problem I can’t relate to. Ghost, this channel used to be so good. Now it’s just like the rest, hate clicks and entitled social media “creators”.
If he removed the macro that basically locks the nightbird out from everyone using it I MIGHT feel sorry for him. But ultimately he locks it out so he can make money from streaming on Twitch! Tell me im wrong. Everyone is allowed to have fun playing a game they enjoy, so turn off your stream and go have fun. One thing you will learn hard and fast is Australians doesnt do "Feeling sorry for people"
we also hate being harrased while trying to play a battlefield game by someone that just does not get out of the little bird and ruins the experience for everone else
"Being Harassed" in a game LMAO... come one bruh... not like he doesn't have macros and stays in spawn screen until he can get on his armored flying vehicle like a coward, and shit talking anything anti AA or even people who uses any of that, maybe he earned some of that by himself. But, I agree, using the bug on him is indeed scummy and the troll re-naming his account, despicable.
That's fucking hilarious. Especially the revive glitch. Fuck that guy. Sure, it's not his fault he's "good" at flying the chopper but at the same time, he spawn camps the chopper and uses it for entire games absolutely destroying the game for everybody else. He single handedly takes out every enemy ground vehicle, air vehicle and every enemy who isn't inside a building at a relentless and honestly just absurd pace. It's overkill and it's not fun for the other 63/127 people in the game including his own team mates. He basically assumes control of the entire game. You want to run some engineer and hunt down tanks? Tough shit, Ashe is going to kill them the second they drive out of their spawn. Want to take a jet and do some dog fighting? Tough shit, the enemy won't have a jet in the sky to fight because Ashe is damn near turning his chopper upside down to aim up and instantly take them down. It's genuinely not as simple as a good player getting harrassed. If he was a decent pilot, got a chopper, maybe killed a tank and racked up 10-15 kills, died, respawned on foot until he died again then regained the chopper if it was available, nobody would have a problem. As it stands, nobody else can get a chance to use it in his lobbies and once he gets it you might as aell just quit because you won't take him down and he's almost definitely going to kill you 30 times. As strange as it sounds because yes, it is part of the game, the second he joins a server he's almost guaranteeing that nobody else is going to have any fun on either team. As far as I'm concerned, fuck that guy. Join his game, let him dominate you for 40 minutes straight and then tell us how you feel. You'd be reporting him for hacking and rage quitting faster than you could reload your AA.
They need to add ammo to the chopper or require it to resupply at base. That man's skill with the night bird is insane. I would leave the server if that death machine was constantly killing me.
The fact that one dude in a light heli can hold in check half of the enemy side (on the 64 player server) is beyond broken. And most pilots aren't as skilled as Ashe guy, they just abuse the mechanics.
I don’t think DICE would find it preferable to have players leaving the game because a handful of OP professional players are ruining their experience.
I really don't know why they didn't carry that over from BF5. That was the one reprieve infantry would get from 102-1 pilots farming them. It would definitely bring all air vehicles in on their leash a bit.
He's in Australia. These people can't really get away from the dude without joining a server with crazy high ping. It's not fair that he gets to ruin games for other people and has an issue when his game is ruined. Screw him. Pilots have been annoying in BF for YEARS and some people are doing something about him making their games miserable.
As someone who almost never plays with vehicles i truly hate when i die due to a heli or a plane, so the first part where the bullies shoot him down was fun, it would be funny if they do it like 1 or 2 times and then quit, but they where obviously spamming him the whole time. Now all the other things in the video should be insta ban. Like making fun of his lost friend. :( But i hope he keeps on going strong and not let them win this.
Man this crazy. Grown men talking about bullying. Smh sounds like good teamwork. The friend taking his life is a bit much. Naming your tag that is pretty bad. But we as men gotta be stronger. Shouldn't be crying and taking our lives over a Make believe Video Game! 🤦🏿
DICE and EA won’t ban anyone since the BF2042 community is so small. I’d honestly rather have DICE and EA focus on hackers/cheaters than stream-sniping.
LOL wouldn't it be funny EA comes to the aid of ASH to try help him... and it turns out he's cheating... I watched 100-1 video he just posted not long ago and all through the video his latency indicator has him in the RED at 225 yet he has no lag at all... I find that peculiar.
@@MJVH777 lol yea. He could be using a VPN. Lots of streamers use them to gain an advantage over others and to make them look better to their followers than they really are. Lol
considering that people like this are infront of their PC all day sitting on their parents wallets just waiting for him already kind of confirms that their life is pretty miserable. I feel sorry for them.
Holy shit I feel this personally. Even today there is people on PS4 that I destroy for 10 matches in a row and they will keep going back for more without stopping or leaving the server 😂 My friends get stream sniped aswell still even after 10 years 😂
Well he is killing the whole server and the server teams up to kill him , talking about double standards, why should someone accept being killed every 2 mins by the same guy you either fight back or leave the game, goes for both parties. HOWEVER, following ash to every server using his friends name is not acceptable. spawn trapping on the other hand has been in bf forever, community server even put “nukes” in so the trapped team can get out of spawn. Stream sniping it not good for the streamer but in the end he decides to share his screen to the public and public uses it against him either he stops streaming or uses a VPN to connect to different servers.
Dice will not ban one of them since the problem is not on their side but because of a decision ash makes - streaming his game. And why should be a single person more privileged to protection than everyone else “just because he is a streamer” You go outside with a sign that shows “punch me” and you don’t expect to get punched ? And then get mad for getting punched ?
@@Maxcismbecause stream sniping and harassment is a bannable offense if you've seen any of the dice/BF ToS updates lol I get it tho, Streamers shouldn't be at an advantage in any way, but they also shouldn't be blatantly harassed like that.
Since DICE is so incompetent in this low player game, this is Another reason why re-adding community rental servers and Server Browsers will help against this harrassment.
If he's not doing anything wrong only using the chopper, then the others aren't doing anything wrong using what the game gives them to combat air vehicles. It's actually the point of coordination they wanted for battlefield. A bunch of engineers is devastating but some engineers with an angel and Irish and call in a jeep with AA on it and they'll stop getting in air vehicles all together its a game
Well now you know infantry feels playing against endless nearly invincible aircraft and getting insta killed at spawn. This is like most pc lobbies getting spammed transports, little birds, or jets.
@@MrCoconutv3 yeah, it's a skill issue playing against ultra maneuverable choppers with unlimited flares that can bounce off the ground and buildings (even rotor down) and still keep flying. It literally shouldn't be possible for any vehicle in this game to go 100-0 or even 150-0 in a match..But yeah man, skill. I bet you're one of those chopper pilots that farms in OP vehicle and when they manage to kill you you just sit in respawn screen until another op vehicle is available..
Yes but you are nice. You are not arrogant. It is his attitude that we don't like. There are plenty of good streamers like Silk for example. That doesn't get that heat. I do not condone anyone stream sniping. Or using someone's friends name that is not here any more. He has brought this on himself. Have you played against him?
I go out of my way to kill helicopters, especially when i’m playing helicopters, and I have a disliking to people who are just no-lives and play nightbirds 24/7, so I can kinda understand people being fed up with Ashe and going out of their way to kill him. However just targeting him like that 24/7 is not ok. Using his dead comrade’s name is horrible. I am a Battlefield streamer as well (TikTok LIVE), and i’m much bigger than Ashe or any of the other BF Twitch streamers, and luckily I don’t have to deal with this stream sniping. Occasionally I have one or two but it’s never a problem like this. I kinda feel bad but that the same time I don’t because this is a situation that can be handled by Ashe, he can always change his name or set a delay or both. Whoever was using his friends name needs a permanent ban from Battlefield.
Its genuinely sociopathic and inhumane to harass someone with their deceased friend. Its the biggest self report that these type of people have no friends at all, its down right evil.
It's crude, its offensive, it's in bad taste...hell it's even moronic and scumbaggy. But _"genuinely sociopathic, inhumane, downright evil"?_ ... Lol What a bunch of hyper-exaggerating snowflakes you kids are 🤣🤣 *Murder* is evil, *child abuse* is evil, *Hitler and the Holocaust* was inhumane and evil...but _trolling in a video game?_ ..Seriously? Grow up lol 🤣🤣
Its an mean act to bully some one whit a dead friend . It is how even not being . A sociopath. U say its genually yet u di not even seem to know the definition of it . U do not know the bullies motives . So u cant even try and make a conclusion .
If you're streaming, you're putting yourself out there for stream sniping. You don't have to stream. Or delay your stream. Also, heli abuse is the most annoying part of this game. When heli pilots go 100-0 in a game, how many people shut the game off forever?
This is a losers mentality. I don't fly or use armor that much but there's a great amount of skill required to be able to do that. I don't like getting killed by air vehicle s but it's not so much the pilots that are annoying its the teammates and their lack of teamwork or awareness that makes it seem worse than it is. I get matched up against From-the Heavens, FlexlanesTTV and Luke Skyfarmer constantly and they're all really good pilots but they can choose to play the way they want just as much as the guy camping 10,000ft away in a tank who I can't kill cuz he's outbound in spawn
yeah this pisses many people off, because the Nightbird is broken mechanics and is popular for streamers who exploit the hell out of it. It's easy farming because dice forgot to put some serious Rail gun on the ground, so it can follow the bird. Nevertheless, this is no reason for harassing someone in such ways, and when you dig deeper, you'll see that his Bird exploiting was not the reason that these guys took action. Everything should always be look at from different angles. Some guys on discord said that he fucked around and then found out a lot. Maybe some political comment, woke bullshit or other stuff what a stream should never touch. Let's hope this morons get bored fast and this stops. Waiting for dice doing something, may be some of the mentioned brutal expectation.
@@joshstraka9579 yeah, that's your opinion and I don't share it. No one should be going 100-0 in a chopper. It shouldn't be possible. And they don't respawn until they get a chopper. You can have your opinion but you're wrong. And you're a loser if you think it's ok to farm servers every game with ridiculously op choppers.
At first, that guy is nowhere near a saint. He is a toxic player, and should be banned from the game. Second, I don't agree with the harassers either though. However, this case points out at least half of the thing I have been pointing out since BF1, and policies that DICE has implemented, that the community disagreed. For example, if they haven't cancel private servers, with admins, like we had until BF4, it would be very easy to kick, or even ban these guys in a minute. You could apply a rule for X number of Stingers/GTM per team (like many servers did with bolt action weapons). So many options to make the game better. On the other hand, DICE had as priority to ban certain words in chat... Only English of course...
He brings it on himself.. his own arrogance is his enemy. I dont condone using his mates name though,.. that is fucked up. But seriously every time their is a counter to his nightbird he whinges and it gets changed.. thats fucked up too
No sympathy. Someone's right to buy a game and create a stream and destroy my right to just buy a game and just play it. Without getting the shit farmed out of me. Does not trump my right. The only people you will end up with tools that stream.
Pfff….it’s a game. To kill or get killed. If you kill me one too many times and gloat online like you did 89-0, you’re gonna get it in anyway legally posdible. End if story. No bitching. And knowing that in real life he would’t even dare to look back at me, he rruins my little time of fun.
Seems like a double edge sword to me, not much fun playing a map where you can't move without being taken out by a seemingly untouchable nightbird or stealth pilot who seem to be able to pull miracle flares out their arse!
if you played battlefield on the regular like myslef as a casual gamer then you would understand having like the max of 2 or 3 servers to play on and you keep getting put into a game with him and he just shits on everyone. you would also understand where a lot of people come from when we say its fucking anoying
Is everyone gonna do a video because Enders made a video about it? Jesus Christ. Maybe ash should get off centrelink touch grass ppl are sick of the little bird abuse in the game I don’t condone anyone killing then selves or being harassed but clearly ppl are sick of seeing little bird pilots killing everyone in a game with no deaths
Yeah, but I watched some Enders videos and in my opinion he is a cocky jerk. The videos I watched, the only thing he did was cut on the game - never had anything good to say about it. I'm thinking, man, if you hate this game so much then go find a game you enjoy and play that. I commented on one of his videos and he doesn't like when you dare to disagree with the opinion of the great Enders. He is famous and you are 💩. I quit watching him. Maybe you had a better experience with him. But I have to base my opinion on what I experienced.
As someone who plays on OCE servers and has died to Ashe and his Nightbird, I can understand both sides of this. Nothing excuses toxic behaviour and I do think this group has taken it way too far. But joining a game and being repeatedly destroyed as someone who mainly plays a ground soilder, it starts to ruin the fun of it..... To the point where you can't play or enjoy the game. There are smaller numbers of players on our servers down this side of the world. Often only 1 or 2 x 128 player games at peak hours, or even just 1 x 64 player server on off peak, so you can't just leave to another server to get away from it. Again, I respect the skill and time taken to hone those skill to become a better play or excel at a vehicle, but given the small number of active servers in OCE, it's either a case of put up with dying constantly to his chopper or stop playing the game and be done with the game.
The Revive glitch exploit is BS and Using his friend's name is BS. But I don't know what you expect dice/EA to do about this? Sure ban players that are exploiting, but you know that won't stop this. What about all the other people that just show up to shoot rockets at this guy are they to be banned too? How can this be resolved? EA doesn't have to support your streaming career and neither do any of the other players in the game.
I'm not defending stream-snipers, it's a terrible practice and it needs to stop, especially when it's done to harrass players, but can anybody explain to me WHY it's happening to Ash specifically? Cause I've never seen an example of targeted harrassment such as this one - what did he do to have all of the server (even his teammates) going after him?
so the harassment is completely out of hand and the whole friend thing is insanely screwed up, but iam pretty sure it has to do with the fact that getting killed by a scout heli is extremely frustrating, especially if they are good, as u can see he can still do pretty well with an entire server with stream snipers on him the entire time, if anything its a reflection of two things, thousands of hours spent training, and a game developers that couldnt care less with anything
@@cgarc056 No, they do this to "humble" him. They view Ashe's Arrogant and Cocky attitude to be toxic so they harass the guy for 10 months. There might be more to this but this is what I got from their vids (Spaggy, trees, etc)
Used scripts for over a year to ALWAYS have the little bird. Denied it for everyone else on his team, again and again. OCE is a small community, people tend to get shitty when this happens. More to the point, he can kill 60-70-80 people in a game and have maybe 1-5 deaths but he will carry on like a pork chop over those 1-5 deaths. Some of the videos of him losing his shit are hilarious. He dead set has mental issues. He comes across as a full of himself fukstik. Aussies don't like people like him.
1 this revive thing they do must be on PC? 2 host they're own server on portal? 3 otherwise, boo hoo, a bunch of players banded together to beat me in a video game
DICE should make vehicle need to refill their ammo and flares to the base,except the fuel. Because it will give Infantry time to push. You see,it feel useless playing Infantry on a large map like Conquest when there is a very skilled Driver or Pilot that Has Unlimited Ammo,Flares,And can Repair so Fast. They can farm Infantry so easy.
This is not going to go down well but hey . I get the revive Bug that should never happen and also using the name of the co-pilot that is going too far and is something that they should be held accountable for But as regards to just spamming missiles when he gets into the heli what are they doing ? They are trying to stop the guy from flying the Nightbird and going on a rampage as he is so good So if they want to go onto the same server and stop him then thats their prerogative thats how they want to play fine it could be turned around that if he wants to just fly the nightbird and just stomp over eveyone in the game then again its his prerogative personally i dont think he should feel good about just flying and nothing else and streaming the endless kills on players that can't counter him, mainly because there is no SBMM in BF 2042 so he knows he will be in your words bullying the other players . Anyone who is that skilled against much less skilled players is bullying if they go around and use just the nightbird knowing that all he will do is get loads of kills for the stream. So as far as i am concerned if he wants to do that then he has to put up with what they are doing neither is against TOS but morally i think both are as bad as each other. I would also add that he is in a very priviliged position if he makes his living from streaming and can play for hours and hours and get really good wher most playing the game have to go to work or school and because of that he gets a massive advantage and to use that to in effect Bully other players just for views is just as wrong in my book. So if he wants to play that way then he has to accept that he will Pi$$ people off so they will do the same to him. But i will again say that the revive bug is def wrong if they are using that.
Difference is he isn't targeting anyone in particular, and as we can see he's easy to take out with just one squad even. They're following him around on the map and from server to server. That's not a normal gameplay tactic, that's targeted harassment. There is a middle ground between not doing anything and spawn killing the guy
So there are people that harass people that harass people in planes and helicopters. That’s hilarious. Now he knows how everyone else feels playing against helicopters teams.
Its your fault that you allow helis to farm tho. There are AAs, Flaks from the jeeps (those are getting netfed tho), Jets and other helis, Thor tanks, Lis missiles, Soflams etc etc... to counter 1 single Nightbird player. If a 30 to 60 ppl server cant counter a single player, no matter what hes in or what hes doing, its all your fault. People need to turn on their brains when they play. It doesnt even take a whole lobby to counter 1 guy btw, just saying if 30 or 60 cant, its clearly a skill issue in the enemy team. All you need is like 4 people who know what they are doing, hell even less sometimes.
Gameplay bullying antics are out of control. A couple weeks ago I had a situation happen where a guy on my team would trap me in a loop where he'd revive me, then kill me, then revive me, kill me, etc... putting me in a position where I had no control over anything until he stopped. I'm not even a streamer or creator either... my guess is it was something he was doing to amp up his revive numbers, as he had the most revives for the match, and I was the random victim... either way, it's straight bullshit and people like that should be banned.
There is nothing more disgusting that a nightbird sweatlord ... that makes me want to quit the game ... so untill that stupid chopper gets nerfed u will get that same frustration back 😂❤
So committing criminal offences is OK as long as he's a "cheater" in your eyes.. Let me guess sexual assault is fine for you as long if the person being assaulted is wearing what you consider inappropriate clothes, drink, or somehow "asking for it" hey? Idiocy. And don't come back with the "oh that's different" response. Criminality is criminality no matter if it's SA or what is allegedly happening to him
@@youlooklikeagoodjoe A macro. Lmao. My guy, he binds the button to spawn in, on the mouse wheel or enter button, in game, thats how he manages to get the Helicopter at the start. Everybody else can do the same. Even then, its all about connection who gets the vehicles. On consoles there are no such things or macros, whoever has better connection takes the vehicles, even tho they might be shit at the game and waste it. Even then, you just wait for them to die, most likely they wont wait for it again and you take it next. There is nothing wrong or insane about this shit. If yall go after such meaningless shit, it just shows copium. At worst Ashes or anyone else who does the samw, wastes 5mins to wait for it. Its not deep or a big deal. In 2042 they even made a system were if you die, you get a cooldown longer than the vehicle spawn, to allow other people to spawn in the vehicle. I think thats dumb as fuck, because blueberries might waste it or use it as a taxi/allow the enemies to steal it, but they made it like that, it is what it is. Still hes not cheating in the REAL sense by using walls, aimbots etc...while those stream snipers are quite clearly cheating in a sense, since they know his position at any given time and they can hoard every vehicle and straight up spawnkill him.
@@youlooklikeagoodjoe And btw, You know those same guys who are stream sniping Ashe, got channels, and its clear as day they are using the same exploit or macro, even in older games like BF4? Like imagine calling that shit a reason to streamsnipe someone when those guys do the same 😂😂😂😂😂
Having expert streamers that make average players experience a little too be desired. Totally not skills based. Do streamers are fair game as they leverage their skill to dominate the average player.
Its peoples fault for not being good stop playing the victim card and do better. This comunity is filled to the brim with ""casual"" players who got thousands of hours under their belt and are still bad, instead of getting better they blame it on better players. Its ALWAYS the players fault for allowing Pilots to farm. Im a very good Pilot and I had matches, especially in previous games, were I couldnt do jack shit in the match, only because the people in the enemy team actually had some team work going on even tho those players were not as good individually. If someone goes on 100+ streaks its always the enemy teams fault for allowing it. And btw, countering enemies and stream sniping are 2 different things. If a good player gets in a server and gets countered by the people inside, thats fair game. If you are streaming your match and 20+ people all join only to shoot you without a care in the world for themselves or the match and literally pin point your location by watching on your stream, thats not the same thing, because the streamer or a good player whos not streaming doesnt know the enemy location at all given times, they go with the flow of the match. Those 20+ people are pretty much wall hacking him.
Wtf can you do tho when he is in the game killing you 1000 times. Make you also wanna quit or stop playing bc there is one who is just overpowered with the heli. It's the wrong way of doing it sure, they should not do it but people getting tired of people like that and just wanna take him down.
I hear ya, but I always try to take out the heli players too. It’s not fun when the other team has a heli pilot that’s 47-0 and due to that, the opposing team has all bases capped. I know I’m going to get ratioed but it’s true. While it’s not fun for him to be targeted, he alone makes the game not fun for others. I don’t agree with spawn killing him at all, but as the saying goes, “heavy lies the crown”.
Creating acc with his deceased friend name is very fcked up and beyond any normal sense. Bugging someone's character is also wrong and weird. They should let the man play since he wasn't done nothing wrong. Keeping someone out of the sky and killing him whenever he goes airborne - here I can't go against the people. People have been abusing helis since the BF4 and Dice is unable to balance properly planes/helis and AA systems. The game should be fair and square for everyone regardless of their way to play.
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"I am being stream sniped and harassed so hard in bf2042, that I was able to start a Hazard zone lobby."
Lmao, this hits so hard.
Night bird players deserve it tbh 😂
Honest I always take it upon myself to focus them and shoot them down every time I see one. They r so overpowered and most players can’t aim well enough to hit them so they basically never die if you just trust ur team to take care of it. So I take the “if I don’t who will” approach
I feel your pain lol. Hate it when teammates just let an enemy vehicle wreck house unopposed...
Same always shoot them instantly if I see a good chopper pilot. You good flyer? Me good lizz player now DIE noob and play normal.
I agree!
Every single one of u should start to realise that annoying the heli gets u killed cause the pilot wanna make sure u won’t shoot 1 more rocket at him. Go cry somewhere else🤣
@@jzryc Every single one of yours should realise that annoying the infantry will just get you shot out of the sky because its not hard to down any heli with an M5 recoilless launcher boi. We'll make sure you regret getting in that pilot seat every time. Go cry somewhere else🤣🤣
As an Aussie I often see Ashe in matches and it feels like your whole team is just getting farmed. Sure you can be good at something in the game, more power to you, but to have a 100-2 KDR screams of a broken mechanic, and the little bird has always been OP in the right hands. When it gets to that level of imbalance the whole team starts hunting him down. I'm a reasonably good wildcat operator and when he's in the bird I feel like its my duty to hop in the wildcat and just camp around the map and focus exclusively on him, to either kill him or at least protect some airspace for my team to the detriment of what else I'd rather be doing in game. So the fact he starts getting Liziled en mass I'm not surprised at and is really just imergent gameplay to counteract the threat that he is. You can't blame people for that, they're fighting against an imbalanced vehicle.
All the other stuff about stream sniping and bullying etc is of course unacceptable behaviour and despicable but if the little bird wasn't so good at the top end of skill levels I doubt any of this would've happened in the first place.
I can't remember off the top of my head if like the stealth heli's that got nerfed and now have to choose between having flares or repair function, I think the bird can still rock both, really it too needs to choose from either, not have both, forcing good players to hide for extended periods after they've taken damage.
Totally agree. He never gets out of the night bird. I don't harass him, but I will get the rockets out as I get sick of not being able to move in the game without him killing me and everyone else.. it destroys our enjoyment, so maybe he needs to stop complaining and try playing in something different or infantry..
Yeah I think people who get good at the night bird don’t know how much of an apathetic play style it is. That and they’re not capping flags. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen a night bird kill over 80 players and still lose. What they’re doing is sending players back to flags that are being capped at a higher rate than usual. I don’t enjoy camping but I’ll do it on flag if I’m one of the only people there, or I’m out of smokes. But most of all I’m attempting to win the game. Which these night bird farmers don’t understand. Why get good at something that’s obviously a glitch while also not trying to win the game or challenge yourself? Post 2042 debut no one is saying “good kill night bird”
I had a feeling this was the issue. Completely don't agree with the username use and that aspect but don't blame them ganging up on you when you wreck the game and team by staying in the Nightbird.
Well as a ground pounder, I can't stand the "151/3" Nightbird pilots that makes MY game play miserable.
I've never seen any of the top infantry players complain about vehicles. They always farm. Skill issue maybe?
@MrCoconutv3 well, I don't consider myself a top infantry player. I just like playing the game and not getting killed by a chopper 20 seconds out of spawn.
But hear me out if I had 5 or 6 servers available and every day I played someone in a nightbird killed me every 2 seconds that'd ruin the game for me too
so u become what u hate. kinda ironic
Teaming up to take Ash (and others like him) out in-game? Sounds like an inevitable consequence for content creators who think the game exists for their own self-aggrandizement. Plenty of videos where streamers love to be OP and dominate using jets, helos, etc and promote their own massive kill/death ratios. Sounds like a part of the community is tired of it and are fighting back.
The only harassment offense I see here is the use of his dead friend’s name…ban-able offense that, IMO. But, so long as they aren’t hacking, I don’t care if a team of Davids have gathered to take out the Goliath who ruins the gaming experience for the average person who just wants to have fun playing the game.
The guy have been caught using mouse macros and some other tools to put him in advantage against other players. He gets stream sniped because players are tired of it. The dead friend name thing was too much and totally uncalled for. But in reality, what Dice can do about this? The streaming platform is totally outside of Dices scope and they have no jurisdiction there. He can stop streaming but that is not feasible for Ashe. Is a gray area that I am sure Dice is not even going to take action against it.
Finally, someone bringing up the issue of mouse macros!
thanks that was what i was asking too... so semi-cheater...
Now it's starting to make sense. He deserves it imo but the friend issue crosses the line. How did he get caught???
@@eded711There's no semi cheater, either you're a cheat or not and it seems this guy is a cheater!
Streaming is not in their control however the harrassment itself is taking place on their platform, so yes it is DICEs problem, they even list it as a reason for their report because of that.
Regardless what he uses, harrassment is not only unethical, and is likely to lead into worse avenues if not dealt with. Its not ok for people to do it in any circumstance.
How people find doing this funny is beyond me, especially with the dead friend thing. It's borderline psychopathic
Yeah it is messed up they act like children have nothing better to do with their life
@@benboren3332 You must be a blast at funerals.
Lol xddd what about normal players xdddd oh no the content creator xdddd
But fr the name thing was fked up
The things evil people do behind the safety of a screen. ITs disgusting.
It is internet boys....we all know how it is
I'm two sided on this. Seeing how this dude plays in that littlebird is devastating for infantry. Air vehicles are blatantly overpowered in every battlefield they're in. It's NOT fun for the infantry being farmed and it ruins the gameplay for ground troops. When people complain about that they get the same responses. "Get good". "Get a launcher". "Work together to take it out". And that's what's happening here. A bit extreme but it isn't so fun anymore when a good portion of the team continues to work together to destroy your air vehicle now is it?
That said though, the following is uncalled for especially naming yourself after someone who killed themselves. That's scumbag level bullshit that I would ban for under principle. All that aside though, you don't get this level of harassment without doing something to attract it. The way dude is playing ruins the game for a LOT of ground players. Like I and many other literally leave games when this shit happens or there's a condor flying around being an unkillable gunship. It's bullshit and that's what attracted the hate to begin with. Now I know the next question being "How can you punish someone for being genuinely good?" which, fair enough. You can't prevent the players from banding together against you. It's the other things they're doing though though that make it unconscionable and perma-ban worthy.
What even can dice do? You can't stop people from joining on someone to get in a game nor can you punish those people for killing you repeatedly. I guess with revives you could do what they do in other battlefields and put you in a gray screen with accept or deny so you can just skip the revive and go to the score screen or something but there's really nothing that can be done outside of playing on those persistent portal server things.
Couldn't give a stuff about *any* streamer TBH 🤷🏻♂️
Using his deceased friends name is messed up, harassment and trolling is not cool either.. However from someone that plays on those servers and has watched his streams i can tell you some facts. To start with i cant believe this is even getting reported and made into a thing (Beyond the harassment), as he does not deserve the attention. He cries when people team up to try take him down.. well shall we just let him go 100/0 plus every game or try combat him?. He really hates it and has a massive whinge on his stream, expects to fly and ruin servers with impunity. He also has been known to camp the uncap multiple times, and also has been caught using macros on stream to grab the chopper while he was AFK. Again, not condoning any harassment, but don't take this guys narrative 100 percent and feel sorry for him. Once a cheat, always a cheat.
The core issue here however is not Ashe, it is the broken Night Bird- flies so unrealistically with zero weight or momentum. Also pilots should not get rewarded so many points for just getting easy kills and not capping flags (like Ashe who generally has zero), 1 point for kills with vehicles on infantry instead of 2 and they would have scores in parity with Infantry and not annoy people so much.
Agree with your comments. DICE should nerf the unrealistic flight characteristics and put a limit on ammo carried. All vehicles for that matter should be required to resupply ammo at either a designated location and/or a mobile supply truck.
@@BrewtownFlyer Wtf no
The way they do it deserves a ban but if you only fly the most OP heli in the game, consistently ruin the game for 64 players in a region where player numbers are low so that people cannot really escape from it and even make money with it, then you cannot expect much sympathy either.
Theres a milllion ways to kill vehicles in this game. What are you even talking about?
@@ShaDoWxGaMeSChannelMore often than not you get team mates who don't know how to deal with good pilots.
I've got Lis on Tier 1 already and let me tell you, it's not much fun to dedicate your whole play time just to kill pilots.
Well, you know it’s hilarious! Aside the bad joke with his friend death, all the other was fun stuff! Really liked that all of them attacked him in coordination.
We have lives, we have families, we have little kids, and when we would like to play for 30-60 minutes to get away from everyday routine is a PITA to have someone nerd in a little bird raping the whole team!! So, no, I don’t feel pity for him.
3 Points:
1. Teaming up and targeting a single player like this, and doing it constantly, is bullshit. And the revive thing is completely unacceptable under any circumstances.
2. Hogging vehicle jocks are a complete nightmare for the rest of the players in a game like this, especially those flying aircraft like helicopters and jets whose flight characteristics are ten times more divorced from reality than the rest of the characters and vehicles in the game.
3. To avoid both 1 and 2 above, game developers should place more realistic limits on what such vehicles can do. At the end of the day, to create a vehicle which can, through enough practice, become virtually impossible to counter, is to invite player apathy and the kind of backlash we see here.
I have tried shooting one of these choppers down after being killed by one a dozen times in a row and getting very pissed off about it. If the pilot is good enough, the task is pretty much impossible. Some of these "aces" have so thoroughly internalized the game metrics involved in shooting them down and developed the tactics to avoid it that it becomes a joke. The moral implications aside, perhaps it's worth asking just why it took practically an entire clan teaming up with AA launchers to keep this guy out of the sky.
Rant over.
I play in the OCE servers. I would like to enjoy my game as well. In the OCE community we always have just player who decides to concentrate on one vehicle and farm everyone else. It happened in BF4, BF1 and BF5. I will not name names but everyone in the OCE community know the players I am talking about. It comes down to balance and the lack of it. As soon as the infantry have the upper hand over vehicles the weapon becomes nerfed. Fliegers is probably the best example in BF5. Some players love to exploit the in-balance and have fun at the expense of other players. I know this opinion will not be very popular.
Yep I agree. I'm an OCE player and after being farmed by ASHBF so many times, tend to spend most of my game trying to down his nightbird. I don't think the game is improved by anyone with a 120+ score at the end of the game.
This is so fucking true
When devs make overpowered or broken mechanics / weapons / vehicles in a game it's up to players to refrain from using them. DICE have no clue on how to balance infantry and vehicles (especially air vehicles) as seen in the past 3 BF installments where anyone PTFOing onto objectives is just farm meat for pilots who don't care that they're ruining the experience for a whole team by abusing this terrible imbalance; I consider this extreme toxicity. Only way to stop it is to end the PTFO and turn into an anti-vehicle player, but that's not the point of BF and is no fun at all. So I fully understand when some people die one too many times from the air over and over when they're just trying to play the game. I have very little sympathy for this guy, how many rounds has he ruined for countless people? Doesn't feel nice when you die with nothing you can do about it, hmm?
L take. Get better. Get on their level with the same or another vehicle or learn how to counter. Get yourself good players to play with to counter better players. If hes ruining peoples match its all their fault anyways, blame yourself for being bad not others for being good. Backwards ass mentality. Especially when its only 1 player whos solo with no friends, even more reasons why you are wrong. He can get targeted by 60+ people if needed, if 60 cant take on 1 its all your fault for being bad. And btw the whole point of vehicles is to be stronger than single players, the catch is you got a cool down when you die and you cant respawn back in instantly unlike infantry who can literally spawn in every 10secs and overwhelm with numbers, skill is not even needed if you got numbers or basic PTFO to counter 1 player. Also infantry have strong enough counters that allows them to solo vehicles, so I dont see how can yall complain when you can sit with Lis 400m away and one shot helis and jets while being completely safe.
100% agree. If I notice a farmer on EITHER team, I just leave. It's unfun, even if it's "benefiting" my team.
@@MagunKnight same, I leave every time. Kinda having a hard time feeling bad for Ashe, especially since he's been toxic before in the past
Exactly, the little bird is very OP at max skill levels. It needs a nerf, always has. Prehaps force the pilot to choose between flares and repair, not rock both.
i have played a couple of games with him not stream sniping, but it brings a lot of people to actully do nothing but taking action against him with AA because it ruins the experience for everyone else.
I don't get it. Dude kills everyone over and over in his broken heli - good. People get tired of it and turn the tables - bad, bad! Scandal! If anything I admire the rare instance of many people working together to achieve something.
you gonna ignore the dead friend thing?
@@roshaanreddy8107 that sucks, but is also mentioned once for a second, while the whole video is about people shooting him down. Helis are broken. They might work if the game had some teamwork, hut it doesn't. DICE balances vehicles around how the game is supposed to be played, not how it is played. The fact is in a random match, a heli main is basically untouchable and frustrating for everyone. Nothing should be able to go 60-0 in a somewhat balanced game.
@@roshaanreddy8107 Ashe can get farmed for all I care. The dead friend thing is sad tho
He isn't making their game unplayable though, otherwise they wouldn't be able to turn it around so easily. And it's not their job to play either
@@athmaid who made him play video games for a living? Them using his deceased friend and making it impossible for respawn is not cool, but shooting him down constantly? That's just a taste of his own medicine.
So the question really being posed is: is it right for many people to make one guy miserable, or is it right for one guy to make many people miserable? I'm not gonna kick the guy while he's down, but there are moments in gaming when you turn off your inner kill robot and just have fun. Your guy who is making whole teams miserable needs to find the off switch and LET people have fun. From a game perspective there are many options to nerf Little Bird spammers: have them run out of gas, change AA missile ammo counts and behavior and so on. Bottom line, your guy is not just the victim here.
Keep in mind that I don’t know who AshBF is, but it’s not his fault that he’s developed the skill to be as effective as he is. Is it okay for less skilled poker players to cheat against more skilled ones because they haven’t put the time in? It’s not okay.
@@kelseydonoghue158 If it's all about his skill level, he can satisfy everyone else and himself by playing against AI lobbies. But we're talking real people here. If I'm dropped into a noob lobby and start rolling I don't keep my foot on their neck. At some point you need to recognize that not everyone is on your level and you are depriving them of having some fun. For most humans, depriving people of fun is undesirable. So I take my foot off the gas and let them get their shots in, maybe kill me a few times and hopefully they start having fun. For those who are too young to remember this, back in the day when you ran across a guy like this in an arcade who was exploiting game mechanics to shit on ppl you'd stop playing, put your quarter up on the screen and take a step back and let them play by themselves until they were done. This guy needs some of that.
While using a dead mates name is taking things way too far, I don't have a lot of sympathy for streamers getting sniped if their actions are ruining the game for everybody else. OCE has a few really skilled chopper pilots and I've seen them empty servers. Why do we need to have our game ruined so they can get views?
This exactly
It seems streamers are happy putting out 150 kill 0 death perfect round nightbird videos with other players feeling 'griefed' by the nightbird pilot. But when the streamer is being 'griefed' you want to cry to your mom. Lets get real here 'It's just a game' do you think footballers start crying when they are marked by 2 or 3 players all game? No they are adults playing big boy rules. Stop whining like a little child, "If you cant take a joke you shouldn't have joined the army".
Lmao I can tell you are one of them bots who gets farmed in pubs 24 7. If a skilled pilot gets on streaks its all your fault for allowing it, since you are shit at the game. The pilot still doesnt know where you are on the map nor he literally prefires your location or straight up spawnkills you. Hes getting targeted by 20+ people who know EXACTLY where he is in the map at any given time and do not give a shit about the rest of the match, they kill him upon spawning in, than loop him in a revive limbo he cant escape if he goes infantry, unless he quits the server. You are just mad you are a bot at the game. And btw killing helis with Lis is the easiest thing ever, but this comunity REFUSES to get better at the game and instead of blaming it on themselves, blame it on good players. Get on their level or learn to counter them. There is a dozen counters to the nightbird right now in the game so if someone goes on 100+ killstreaks its all your fault, not the good players fault. If you think you are a "big boy" than dont complain about getting wasted by a Pilot whos leagues better. What these guys are doing isnt "countering" a player, they are pin pointing his exact location on the map at any given time by watching the stream and prefiring his position. Thats not a normal or fair scenario when playing the game. The Pilot or any good player who doesnt cheat doesnt know were the enemies are while his stream snipers do. Doesnt take much brain cells to figure it out. This is all coming from a guy who doesnt like Ashe btw.
Sweaty air players totally wreck this game for everyone else. They're killing him fair and square with in-game mechanics. He's just salty.
Seems like an easy fix would be to delay the stream to the max allowed on Twitch, 5 minutes. Using his dead friends' real name, however, is unforgiveable. For this reason alone, these trolls should be banned.
That essentially gives you 5 minutes of peace. If you take notice of the amount of people doing it to this guy...all they have to do is all queue...check scoreboard when they get into a game and then call over the rest (you just have to press "join" on them in friendslist). It doesn't help him he's in an underpopulated area (BF2042-wise) since that just makes it easier to find his games as there are less options.
@@ashanisyra4784 Gotta admit, I really don't know much about the streaming world. I would imagine that trolls like these would be difficult to manage in any game.
@@ashanisyra4784Alternatively he could maybe use VPN. South America servers are also underpopulated in specific game modes and I use it to connect to North America or Europe.
Maybe against TOS but he could use a VPN and play on european servers. Dice should implement a streamer mode as well that hides all player names
i) Adding a 5 minute delay will destroy his stream, since he would be unable to interact with his chat
ii) Adding a 5 minute delay still doesn't help as 2042 has a tiny playerbase, and places like OCE only have like 1-2 lobbies going at the same time so the snipers can always find him whenever they want
Honestly i can see the revive function being harrasment but the lis missiles is a different story. If you have a pilot in the air that can litterally farm the whole server it makes it unenjoyable to play. So litterally they are just banning togeather to get rid of the biggest threat to the game in this case ash.
For 10+ months with 20+ ppl who also are in his team? Thats griefing and not a realistic scenario. They are also pin pointing his location by watching his stream and targeting him. When Ashe or any other player for that matter, play, they dont have a way to know exactly were their enemies are in the map at any given time. They dont give a shit about winning or losing the match either nor about having a good time. They join solely to kill 1 person. Its not hard to understand. The fact you even got likes only shows the comunity is on massive copium. Just get good at the game and counter "sweats".
@@IlNamelessKinglI if there was more proof to support that claim that they only taeget him beyond these 20 second clips of him in a nightbird, like seriously if this guy just waits around a whole game to use a nightbird. Like they spam the lis rocket BECAUSE HES IN A HELI, which is the #1 way to get rid of these. You dont see clips of him on foot with this kind of spam only in helicopters. Like what is a medic supposed to do to get rid of these farming people. Nothing! Litterally you only have 2 real options in dealing with these people. 1 being the m5 if you can aim and the same goes for the lis rocket. This is nothing more than a team getting rid of enemy air. Now for the revive and freind name thing, that shits wrong and these people should get banned for that offence. But the lis rockets no.
@@lonegun4078 🤦🤡
I literally saw one of the streamsnipers upload 2 videos on YT, that are like, 3 4 5 mins long each, of him killing Ashe. Its not just "20secs". Yeah in most of those clips hes in a Scout Heli, so what? And you only make me laugh with your "medic" statement. Lis, Stingers, Soflams, Thor tanks, Jets, MAA, Lis, the 50 cal sniper, Railgun, Tows, AA stations, and so many more counters are in the game to kill Nightbirds and other helis. This streamer plays solo most of the time and servers get up to 60 players in each team, you are telling me 30 to 60 people cant stop 1 single player from farming? With the dozens of counters in the game? Thats all YOUR FAULT. Its not even a debate here, you arent powerless when facing helis, yall need to learn what team work, ptfo and counters are. Also BF was never about infantry only. Every BF player should know how to atleast use 1 or 2 vehicles, if you cant, its all your fault for not adapting
@@lonegun4078 Have you checked his VODS in twitch? Yes he goes on foot, but each time he does that, he either gets lizzed and shot down by a 5 to 13 man squad everytime. But he can go againts them easily right?
Also about getting rid of nightbirds, liz, soflams, Flak (Brawler, Recon buggy, hovercraft), AA tank, Railgun, Railgun tanks, AA missles, Condor, Hind, Jet, Rocket launchers (I feel like the rockets got faster, making it easier to kill the nightbirds). There are alot of ways to kill the nightbirds, it just seems like you and your team didnt try enough.
Aside from the Lis missiles, the quickest way to get rid of the nightbird is with the new AA flak canon. It can kill one in seconds. If I can't get him easily with the lissile, I just call in the jeep with the AA and take care of business. It's a beast that I hope they don't nerf.
I think one of the big issues is that because when there is so little servers in Australia when you play the same time as him every game you come up against him. I’m from Australia and so many times I have stopped playing because Ashe is on. If you only came up against a player like that every so often you wouldn’t notice him.
Interesting, but is he streaming every night? In Aus I play often, mainly breakthrough, haven't seen this sort of thing happening there.
Yeah mainly conquest
This is what the defenders of him don't seem to get. They wine about his game being ruined but say screw all of the people who he ruins games for. Imagine how many people can't enjoy a game of Battlefield because this dude is terrorizing them all game long. They're the same people to moan about team play and say it's the core of the game and yet have no issue with a single person wiping entire teams.
I totally support when people keep toxic nightbird pilots out of the air. The using a name from a deceased player is messed up though.
I think the Night bird should be removed,those tiny helis just farm blueberrys....I've played engineer just to take them down....Lis rocket can't get them,and they run and hide and crack flares when you get a lock on .....Rinse and repeat, whole match
it is also pretty abusive to just be camping on a heli, killing every player on ground, that is also harassment!!! that guy just take a shot of his own medicine!!!
LOL wouldn't it be funny EA comes to the aid of ASH to try help him... and it turns out he's cheating... I watched 100-1 video he just posted not long ago and all through the video his latency indicator has him in the RED at 225 yet he has no lag at all... I find that peculiar
I play from South Africa, and I also have all the counters on red lol, but I usually won't actually lag unless my connection is unstable. If he has an otherwise stable connection, no hiccups in available bandwidth and network traffic stays normal, it should also be fine for him, too.
Being honest though, most pilots on this game abused the living shit out of macros to certify their spot in a heli everytime and the 3rd missile glitch, and other exploits to climb the leader board and typically talk shit if you use anything except a silenced pistol to snipe them out of their vehicle, I have no sympathy for any one trick ponies
Meh. Apart from their changing their name to same as his friend, Ashe deserves all the hate directed at him. Toxic behaviour by Ashe begets toxic behaviour.
Vehicle only players have it coming for them. If they're gonna ruin your day, might as well get revenge. I think it's great that he's being constantly killed, it's good team play - gang up on the most dangerous threat.
This isn't team play. It's harassment. If you think it's team play you are clueless
go back to COD if you dont like vehicles, he spents a thousands of hours in heli and ofc he is very good. So you can go even in super mario its for players like you, crying babies in reddit.
@@JJones-cl4dm Because he uses macros to steal the vehicle slot the mass lissles are warranted. Anything outside of that is not
Not a real issue for the average player. This is a TH-camr problem I can’t relate to. Ghost, this channel used to be so good. Now it’s just like the rest, hate clicks and entitled social media “creators”.
If he removed the macro that basically locks the nightbird out from everyone using it I MIGHT feel sorry for him. But ultimately he locks it out so he can make money from streaming on Twitch! Tell me im wrong. Everyone is allowed to have fun playing a game they enjoy, so turn off your stream and go have fun. One thing you will learn hard and fast is Australians doesnt do "Feeling sorry for people"
Bingo.
we also hate being harrased while trying to play a battlefield game by someone that just does not get out of the little bird and ruins the experience for everone else
"Being Harassed" in a game LMAO... come one bruh... not like he doesn't have macros and stays in spawn screen until he can get on his armored flying vehicle like a coward, and shit talking anything anti AA or even people who uses any of that, maybe he earned some of that by himself. But, I agree, using the bug on him is indeed scummy and the troll re-naming his account, despicable.
That's fucking hilarious. Especially the revive glitch. Fuck that guy. Sure, it's not his fault he's "good" at flying the chopper but at the same time, he spawn camps the chopper and uses it for entire games absolutely destroying the game for everybody else. He single handedly takes out every enemy ground vehicle, air vehicle and every enemy who isn't inside a building at a relentless and honestly just absurd pace. It's overkill and it's not fun for the other 63/127 people in the game including his own team mates. He basically assumes control of the entire game. You want to run some engineer and hunt down tanks? Tough shit, Ashe is going to kill them the second they drive out of their spawn. Want to take a jet and do some dog fighting? Tough shit, the enemy won't have a jet in the sky to fight because Ashe is damn near turning his chopper upside down to aim up and instantly take them down. It's genuinely not as simple as a good player getting harrassed. If he was a decent pilot, got a chopper, maybe killed a tank and racked up 10-15 kills, died, respawned on foot until he died again then regained the chopper if it was available, nobody would have a problem. As it stands, nobody else can get a chance to use it in his lobbies and once he gets it you might as aell just quit because you won't take him down and he's almost definitely going to kill you 30 times. As strange as it sounds because yes, it is part of the game, the second he joins a server he's almost guaranteeing that nobody else is going to have any fun on either team. As far as I'm concerned, fuck that guy. Join his game, let him dominate you for 40 minutes straight and then tell us how you feel. You'd be reporting him for hacking and rage quitting faster than you could reload your AA.
Bro is calling stream sniping "Harassment"
They need to add ammo to the chopper or require it to resupply at base. That man's skill with the night bird is insane. I would leave the server if that death machine was constantly killing me.
At least you'd do the sensible thing
The fact that one dude in a light heli can hold in check half of the enemy side (on the 64 player server) is beyond broken.
And most pilots aren't as skilled as Ashe guy, they just abuse the mechanics.
I don’t think DICE would find it preferable to have players leaving the game because a handful of OP professional players are ruining their experience.
I really don't know why they didn't carry that over from BF5. That was the one reprieve infantry would get from 102-1 pilots farming them. It would definitely bring all air vehicles in on their leash a bit.
He's in Australia. These people can't really get away from the dude without joining a server with crazy high ping. It's not fair that he gets to ruin games for other people and has an issue when his game is ruined. Screw him. Pilots have been annoying in BF for YEARS and some people are doing something about him making their games miserable.
As someone who almost never plays with vehicles i truly hate when i die due to a heli or a plane, so the first part where the bullies shoot him down was fun, it would be funny if they do it like 1 or 2 times and then quit, but they where obviously spamming him the whole time. Now all the other things in the video should be insta ban. Like making fun of his lost friend. :( But i hope he keeps on going strong and not let them win this.
Just note there's a difference between harassing and teaming up against a really good player Just like double team in basketball
Man this crazy. Grown men talking about bullying. Smh sounds like good teamwork. The friend taking his life is a bit much. Naming your tag that is pretty bad. But we as men gotta be stronger. Shouldn't be crying and taking our lives over a Make believe Video Game! 🤦🏿
DICE and EA won’t ban anyone since the BF2042 community is so small. I’d honestly rather have DICE and EA focus on hackers/cheaters than stream-sniping.
LOL wouldn't it be funny EA comes to the aid of ASH to try help him... and it turns out he's cheating... I watched 100-1 video he just posted not long ago and all through the video his latency indicator has him in the RED at 225 yet he has no lag at all... I find that peculiar.
@@MJVH777 lol yea. He could be using a VPN. Lots of streamers use them to gain an advantage over others and to make them look better to their followers than they really are. Lol
I'm high asf and I was honestly laughing my ass off at this
considering that people like this are infront of their PC all day sitting on their parents wallets just waiting for him already kind of confirms that their life is pretty miserable. I feel sorry for them.
Bf4 players try not to be the most annoying players in the world challenge (impossible)
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Holy shit I feel this personally. Even today there is people on PS4 that I destroy for 10 matches in a row and they will keep going back for more without stopping or leaving the server 😂
My friends get stream sniped aswell still even after 10 years 😂
Warzone players already took that title
Well he is killing the whole server and the server teams up to kill him , talking about double standards, why should someone accept being killed every 2 mins by the same guy you either fight back or leave the game, goes for both parties.
HOWEVER, following ash to every server using his friends name is not acceptable.
spawn trapping on the other hand has been in bf forever, community server even put “nukes” in so the trapped team can get out of spawn.
Stream sniping it not good for the streamer but in the end he decides to share his screen to the public and public uses it against him either he stops streaming or uses a VPN to connect to different servers.
Dice will not ban one of them since the problem is not on their side but because of a decision ash makes - streaming his game. And why should be a single person more privileged to protection than everyone else “just because he is a streamer”
You go outside with a sign that shows “punch me” and you don’t expect to get punched ? And then get mad for getting punched ?
@@Maxcismbecause stream sniping and harassment is a bannable offense if you've seen any of the dice/BF ToS updates lol
I get it tho, Streamers shouldn't be at an advantage in any way, but they also shouldn't be blatantly harassed like that.
Since DICE is so incompetent in this low player game, this is Another reason why re-adding community rental servers and Server Browsers will help against this harrassment.
Maybe the clown could use another vehicle and/or be infantry. Imagine that for an idea
das actually kinda funny nvn the part where they named themselves after his friends name is pretty fucked up
Exactly.
All aircraft only players do is basically harass infantry all day. You make playing BF mostly terribe
If he's not doing anything wrong only using the chopper, then the others aren't doing anything wrong using what the game gives them to combat air vehicles. It's actually the point of coordination they wanted for battlefield. A bunch of engineers is devastating but some engineers with an angel and Irish and call in a jeep with AA on it and they'll stop getting in air vehicles all together its a game
Well now you know infantry feels playing against endless nearly invincible aircraft and getting insta killed at spawn. This is like most pc lobbies getting spammed transports, little birds, or jets.
Ashe himself has been toxic before in the past. I guess him playing victim is working out for him
@@BourbonBandit-Players like Silk come across as decent human beings.
Gashe just comes across a fukwit.
skill issue
@@MrCoconutv3 yeah, it's a skill issue playing against ultra maneuverable choppers with unlimited flares that can bounce off the ground and buildings (even rotor down) and still keep flying. It literally shouldn't be possible for any vehicle in this game to go 100-0 or even 150-0 in a match..But yeah man, skill. I bet you're one of those chopper pilots that farms in OP vehicle and when they manage to kill you you just sit in respawn screen until another op vehicle is available..
@@BourbonBandit- Doesn’t justify people using his dead best friends name. Thats horrible.
Yes but you are nice. You are not arrogant. It is his attitude that we don't like. There are plenty of good streamers like Silk for example. That doesn't get that heat. I do not condone anyone stream sniping. Or using someone's friends name that is not here any more. He has brought this on himself. Have you played against him?
I go out of my way to kill helicopters, especially when i’m playing helicopters, and I have a disliking to people who are just no-lives and play nightbirds 24/7, so I can kinda understand people being fed up with Ashe and going out of their way to kill him. However just targeting him like that 24/7 is not ok. Using his dead comrade’s name is horrible. I am a Battlefield streamer as well (TikTok LIVE), and i’m much bigger than Ashe or any of the other BF Twitch streamers, and luckily I don’t have to deal with this stream sniping. Occasionally I have one or two but it’s never a problem like this. I kinda feel bad but that the same time I don’t because this is a situation that can be handled by Ashe, he can always change his name or set a delay or both. Whoever was using his friends name needs a permanent ban from Battlefield.
Its genuinely sociopathic and inhumane to harass someone with their deceased friend.
Its the biggest self report that these type of people have no friends at all, its down right evil.
It's crude, its offensive, it's in bad taste...hell it's even moronic and scumbaggy. But _"genuinely sociopathic, inhumane, downright evil"?_ ... Lol What a bunch of hyper-exaggerating snowflakes you kids are 🤣🤣 *Murder* is evil, *child abuse* is evil, *Hitler and the Holocaust* was inhumane and evil...but _trolling in a video game?_ ..Seriously? Grow up lol 🤣🤣
Its an mean act to bully some one whit a dead friend .
It is how even not being .
A sociopath.
U say its genually yet u di not even seem to know the definition of it .
U do not know the bullies motives . So u cant even try and make a conclusion .
Using his deceased friend's name is a scumbag move. The other stuff is funny.
If you're streaming, you're putting yourself out there for stream sniping. You don't have to stream. Or delay your stream. Also, heli abuse is the most annoying part of this game. When heli pilots go 100-0 in a game, how many people shut the game off forever?
But they’re calling themselves after his deceased friend and they all watch his stream just to kill him and make crappy videos on it.
This is a losers mentality. I don't fly or use armor that much but there's a great amount of skill required to be able to do that. I don't like getting killed by air vehicle s but it's not so much the pilots that are annoying its the teammates and their lack of teamwork or awareness that makes it seem worse than it is. I get matched up against From-the Heavens, FlexlanesTTV and Luke Skyfarmer constantly and they're all really good pilots but they can choose to play the way they want just as much as the guy camping 10,000ft away in a tank who I can't kill cuz he's outbound in spawn
yeah this pisses many people off, because the Nightbird is broken mechanics and is popular for streamers who exploit the hell out of it. It's easy farming because dice forgot to put some serious Rail gun on the ground, so it can follow the bird. Nevertheless, this is no reason for harassing someone in such ways, and when you dig deeper, you'll see that his Bird exploiting was not the reason that these guys took action. Everything should always be look at from different angles. Some guys on discord said that he fucked around and then found out a lot. Maybe some political comment, woke bullshit or other stuff what a stream should never touch. Let's hope this morons get bored fast and this stops. Waiting for dice doing something, may be some of the mentioned brutal expectation.
@@tie_fighter96 yeah, I'm not talking about that. And it seemed to be one idiot.. idiots are on the internet, that's nothing new.
@@joshstraka9579 yeah, that's your opinion and I don't share it. No one should be going 100-0 in a chopper. It shouldn't be possible. And they don't respawn until they get a chopper. You can have your opinion but you're wrong. And you're a loser if you think it's ok to farm servers every game with ridiculously op choppers.
At first, that guy is nowhere near a saint. He is a toxic player, and should be banned from the game.
Second, I don't agree with the harassers either though.
However, this case points out at least half of the thing I have been pointing out since BF1, and policies that DICE has implemented, that the community disagreed. For example, if they haven't cancel private servers, with admins, like we had until BF4, it would be very easy to kick, or even ban these guys in a minute. You could apply a rule for X number of Stingers/GTM per team (like many servers did with bolt action weapons). So many options to make the game better.
On the other hand, DICE had as priority to ban certain words in chat... Only English of course...
He brings it on himself.. his own arrogance is his enemy. I dont condone using his mates name though,.. that is fucked up. But seriously every time their is a counter to his nightbird he whinges and it gets changed.. thats fucked up too
Shouldn't bring up his dead friend's name but shouldn't except people to let you fly around 150-0 either.
No sympathy. Someone's right to buy a game and create a stream and destroy my right to just buy a game and just play it. Without getting the shit farmed out of me. Does not trump my right. The only people you will end up with tools that stream.
Man someone give this guy a violin... wahhhhh
Pfff….it’s a game. To kill or get killed. If you kill me one too many times and gloat online like you did 89-0, you’re gonna get it in anyway legally posdible. End if story. No bitching. And knowing that in real life he would’t even dare to look back at me, he rruins my little time of fun.
They should nerf the choppers so EVERYONE can enjoy playing, problem solved!
Seems like a double edge sword to me, not much fun playing a map where you can't move without being taken out by a seemingly untouchable nightbird or stealth pilot who seem to be able to pull miracle flares out their arse!
if you played battlefield on the regular like myslef as a casual gamer then you would understand having like the max of 2 or 3 servers to play on and you keep getting put into a game with him and he just shits on everyone. you would also understand where a lot of people come from when we say its fucking anoying
Is everyone gonna do a video because Enders made a video about it? Jesus Christ.
Maybe ash should get off centrelink touch grass ppl are sick of the little bird abuse in the game I don’t condone anyone killing then selves or being harassed but clearly ppl are sick of seeing little bird pilots killing everyone in a game with no deaths
This shit funny as fuck
So the night bird who’s job it is to harass ground players and make it so they don’t want to play gets harassed. Meh cry more
Dice only goes after harassment if it's about their devs. Just look at what happened to enders all he did was criticize there actions.
Yeah, but I watched some Enders videos and in my opinion he is a cocky jerk. The videos I watched, the only thing he did was cut on the game - never had anything good to say about it. I'm thinking, man, if you hate this game so much then go find a game you enjoy and play that. I commented on one of his videos and he doesn't like when you dare to disagree with the opinion of the great Enders. He is famous and you are 💩. I quit watching him. Maybe you had a better experience with him. But I have to base my opinion on what I experienced.
Enders is no big loss.
As someone who plays on OCE servers and has died to Ashe and his Nightbird, I can understand both sides of this. Nothing excuses toxic behaviour and I do think this group has taken it way too far. But joining a game and being repeatedly destroyed as someone who mainly plays a ground soilder, it starts to ruin the fun of it..... To the point where you can't play or enjoy the game. There are smaller numbers of players on our servers down this side of the world. Often only 1 or 2 x 128 player games at peak hours, or even just 1 x 64 player server on off peak, so you can't just leave to another server to get away from it. Again, I respect the skill and time taken to hone those skill to become a better play or excel at a vehicle, but given the small number of active servers in OCE, it's either a case of put up with dying constantly to his chopper or stop playing the game and be done with the game.
The one thing I can't stand more is people so sensitive over events the take place in a video game. Listen yourself, it's cringe!!
I know right. Little boys crying for their mom when they realise life is not fair. Gen Z self entitlement on steroids.
The Revive glitch exploit is BS and Using his friend's name is BS. But I don't know what you expect dice/EA to do about this? Sure ban players that are exploiting, but you know that won't stop this. What about all the other people that just show up to shoot rockets at this guy are they to be banned too? How can this be resolved? EA doesn't have to support your streaming career and neither do any of the other players in the game.
Granted, the name thing is f up. But this is the internet. Adapt and overcome. Dont want to be bullied online in a game? Turn it off.
I'm not defending stream-snipers, it's a terrible practice and it needs to stop, especially when it's done to harrass players, but can anybody explain to me WHY it's happening to Ash specifically? Cause I've never seen an example of targeted harrassment such as this one - what did he do to have all of the server (even his teammates) going after him?
so the harassment is completely out of hand and the whole friend thing is insanely screwed up, but iam pretty sure it has to do with the fact that getting killed by a scout heli is extremely frustrating, especially if they are good, as u can see he can still do pretty well with an entire server with stream snipers on him the entire time, if anything its a reflection of two things, thousands of hours spent training, and a game developers that couldnt care less with anything
He uses mouse macros to get the heli super fast in the menu. Also, he isan overall annoying d***
@@cgarc056 No, they do this to "humble" him. They view Ashe's Arrogant and Cocky attitude to be toxic so they harass the guy for 10 months. There might be more to this but this is what I got from their vids (Spaggy, trees, etc)
Used scripts for over a year to ALWAYS have the little bird.
Denied it for everyone else on his team, again and again.
OCE is a small community, people tend to get shitty when this happens.
More to the point, he can kill 60-70-80 people in a game and have maybe 1-5 deaths but he will carry on like a pork chop over those 1-5 deaths.
Some of the videos of him losing his shit are hilarious.
He dead set has mental issues.
He comes across as a full of himself fukstik.
Aussies don't like people like him.
he used macros
1 this revive thing they do must be on PC?
2 host they're own server on portal?
3 otherwise, boo hoo, a bunch of players banded together to beat me in a video game
Too many sweats in helis so i dont see a problem its just a game🤷🏽♂️
Using his dead friends name though? Thats too far
Putting the namer tag as him friend that passed in January is sick man 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
It's typical forces humour, unbelievable snowflakes on this channel.
DICE should make vehicle need to refill their ammo and flares to the base,except the fuel.
Because it will give Infantry time to push.
You see,it feel useless playing Infantry on a large map like Conquest when there is a very skilled Driver or Pilot that Has Unlimited Ammo,Flares,And can Repair so Fast.
They can farm Infantry so easy.
No wonder dude is so good, he’s been playing on hard mode since day one.
I hate heli pilots because Nightbird is OP as F but this is overboard stupid.
This is not going to go down well but hey .
I get the revive Bug that should never happen and also using the name of the co-pilot that is going too far and is something that they should be held accountable for
But as regards to just spamming missiles when he gets into the heli what are they doing ?
They are trying to stop the guy from flying the Nightbird and going on a rampage as he is so good
So if they want to go onto the same server and stop him then thats their prerogative thats how they want to play fine
it could be turned around that if he wants to just fly the nightbird and just stomp over eveyone in the game then again its his prerogative
personally i dont think he should feel good about just flying and nothing else and streaming the endless kills on players that can't counter him, mainly because there is no SBMM in BF 2042
so he knows he will be in your words bullying the other players .
Anyone who is that skilled against much less skilled players is bullying if they go around and use just the nightbird knowing that all he will do is get loads of kills for the stream.
So as far as i am concerned if he wants to do that then he has to put up with what they are doing neither is against TOS but morally i think both are as bad as each other.
I would also add that he is in a very priviliged position if he makes his living from streaming and can play for hours and hours and get really good wher most playing the game have to go to work or school and because of that he gets a massive advantage and to use that to in effect Bully other players just for views is just as wrong in my book.
So if he wants to play that way then he has to accept that he will Pi$$ people off so they will do the same to him.
But i will again say that the revive bug is def wrong if they are using that.
Difference is he isn't targeting anyone in particular, and as we can see he's easy to take out with just one squad even. They're following him around on the map and from server to server. That's not a normal gameplay tactic, that's targeted harassment. There is a middle ground between not doing anything and spawn killing the guy
I would imagine that the solution to this issue is to not spawn in the night bird....
So there are people that harass people that harass people in planes and helicopters. That’s hilarious. Now he knows how everyone else feels playing against helicopters teams.
Its your fault that you allow helis to farm tho. There are AAs, Flaks from the jeeps (those are getting netfed tho), Jets and other helis, Thor tanks, Lis missiles, Soflams etc etc... to counter 1 single Nightbird player. If a 30 to 60 ppl server cant counter a single player, no matter what hes in or what hes doing, its all your fault. People need to turn on their brains when they play. It doesnt even take a whole lobby to counter 1 guy btw, just saying if 30 or 60 cant, its clearly a skill issue in the enemy team. All you need is like 4 people who know what they are doing, hell even less sometimes.
Gameplay bullying antics are out of control. A couple weeks ago I had a situation happen where a guy on my team would trap me in a loop where he'd revive me, then kill me, then revive me, kill me, etc... putting me in a position where I had no control over anything until he stopped. I'm not even a streamer or creator either... my guess is it was something he was doing to amp up his revive numbers, as he had the most revives for the match, and I was the random victim... either way, it's straight bullshit and people like that should be banned.
How did your team mate kill you after they revived you ?
@davidp2272 he'd revive me then immediately shoot me, and on and on. Friendly fire was active.
There is nothing more disgusting that a nightbird sweatlord ... that makes me want to quit the game ... so untill that stupid chopper gets nerfed u will get that same frustration back 😂❤
Get over your self, so it's OK for you to kill everyone but no one can kill you, it's just a game, lol 😂
He gets stream sniped because he's a cheater and everyone in oce is sick of it
So committing criminal offences is OK as long as he's a "cheater" in your eyes..
Let me guess sexual assault is fine for you as long if the person being assaulted is wearing what you consider inappropriate clothes, drink, or somehow "asking for it" hey?
Idiocy. And don't come back with the "oh that's different" response. Criminality is criminality no matter if it's SA or what is allegedly happening to him
Hes not a cheater tho stop being delusional
@@IlNamelessKinglI if he’s gonna use a macro then yeah, that’s cheating
@@youlooklikeagoodjoe A macro. Lmao. My guy, he binds the button to spawn in, on the mouse wheel or enter button, in game, thats how he manages to get the Helicopter at the start. Everybody else can do the same. Even then, its all about connection who gets the vehicles. On consoles there are no such things or macros, whoever has better connection takes the vehicles, even tho they might be shit at the game and waste it. Even then, you just wait for them to die, most likely they wont wait for it again and you take it next. There is nothing wrong or insane about this shit. If yall go after such meaningless shit, it just shows copium. At worst Ashes or anyone else who does the samw, wastes 5mins to wait for it. Its not deep or a big deal. In 2042 they even made a system were if you die, you get a cooldown longer than the vehicle spawn, to allow other people to spawn in the vehicle. I think thats dumb as fuck, because blueberries might waste it or use it as a taxi/allow the enemies to steal it, but they made it like that, it is what it is. Still hes not cheating in the REAL sense by using walls, aimbots etc...while those stream snipers are quite clearly cheating in a sense, since they know his position at any given time and they can hoard every vehicle and straight up spawnkill him.
@@youlooklikeagoodjoe And btw, You know those same guys who are stream sniping Ashe, got channels, and its clear as day they are using the same exploit or macro, even in older games like BF4? Like imagine calling that shit a reason to streamsnipe someone when those guys do the same 😂😂😂😂😂
Having expert streamers that make average players experience a little too be desired. Totally not skills based. Do streamers are fair game as they leverage their skill to dominate the average player.
Its peoples fault for not being good stop playing the victim card and do better. This comunity is filled to the brim with ""casual"" players who got thousands of hours under their belt and are still bad, instead of getting better they blame it on better players. Its ALWAYS the players fault for allowing Pilots to farm. Im a very good Pilot and I had matches, especially in previous games, were I couldnt do jack shit in the match, only because the people in the enemy team actually had some team work going on even tho those players were not as good individually. If someone goes on 100+ streaks its always the enemy teams fault for allowing it. And btw, countering enemies and stream sniping are 2 different things. If a good player gets in a server and gets countered by the people inside, thats fair game. If you are streaming your match and 20+ people all join only to shoot you without a care in the world for themselves or the match and literally pin point your location by watching on your stream, thats not the same thing, because the streamer or a good player whos not streaming doesnt know the enemy location at all given times, they go with the flow of the match. Those 20+ people are pretty much wall hacking him.
No one has the right to harrass and attack another. Two wrongs don't make a right. Even more so if harassing/stalking is a criminal offwnce.
he deserves it maybe if he didn't sit in a chopper all game ruining everyone elses game he wouldn't get the hate
The "Kill then Revive" thing has been around a long time it happened to me once when I was playing 2142. The only escape is to quit the round.
Don’t farm kills in a OP vehicle making narcissistic video titles.
Wtf can you do tho when he is in the game killing you 1000 times. Make you also wanna quit or stop playing bc there is one who is just overpowered with the heli. It's the wrong way of doing it sure, they should not do it but people getting tired of people like that and just wanna take him down.
The whole game feel like you playing call duty even feel like battlefield fail
The helicopters and tanks are to powerfull. Bring back the smaw. The hind can take 2 tankshells.
I am all for this. Some noob continually using the same vehicle to the detriment lf others.
I hear ya, but I always try to take out the heli players too. It’s not fun when the other team has a heli pilot that’s 47-0 and due to that, the opposing team has all bases capped. I know I’m going to get ratioed but it’s true. While it’s not fun for him to be targeted, he alone makes the game not fun for others. I don’t agree with spawn killing him at all, but as the saying goes, “heavy lies the crown”.
This is pretty bad
The little bird sweats are annoying tho
1:13😂😂😂
Hell yeah 😂😂😂
made me giggle ngl 😭
But when you say the devs aren’t doing their job then that’s when the line in crossed
Creating acc with his deceased friend name is very fcked up and beyond any normal sense.
Bugging someone's character is also wrong and weird. They should let the man play since he wasn't done nothing wrong.
Keeping someone out of the sky and killing him whenever he goes airborne - here I can't go against the people. People have been abusing helis since the BF4 and Dice is unable to balance properly planes/helis and AA systems.
The game should be fair and square for everyone regardless of their way to play.