Motley Crew Episode #28 - Jimmy Nutts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ค. 2024
- Hey friends! Welcome to another episode of Motley Crew, a livestream chat show where I talk to my friends about books and life. Tonight I've got the one and only Jimmy Nutts from The Fantasy Nuttwork joining me for a chat. We probably will talk about Game of Thrones at some point. Pull up your chair and a favorite beverage, and join in the chaos.
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How can anyone read Bran's chapters in A Dance with Dragons and not be impressed with the increasingly creepy tone, trippy dreams, subtle worldbuilding and the characters?
Bran isn't my favorite but I agree that the writing was really well done.
Well, I certainly wasn't intending to binge this replay in one go, but here we are. You two are just such natural entertainers, I loooved this casual chat 🥰 Also, I feel like you two are both some of the most inspiring booktubers when it comes to being open about mental health and I love you for both for it!! Such a fun chat, thanks a lot for the great fun ☺
Thank you so much, Esmay! I'm glad you enjoyed the chat. Jimmy is always an entertaining conversation! :)
The mental health side of nearly any discussion of literature is always gonna be really interesting.
You two have elevated it imo
@@billyalarie929 thank you 💜
YES! 🤘🏻😀🤘🏻 TOM BOMBADIL IS AWESOME! I’ve been trying to sell Tori on that take for months. 😆
*sigh*
Watching the playback, and about 2/3 of the way through and the talk about mental health and not conforming to some kind of nonexistent standard is so good. It always makes me want to start a channel, but what could I bring that hasn't been said. Then I hear Jimmy, "I'm an idiot, why should an author listen to me?" and it makes me laugh because both of you always seem to have great reviews and thorough thoughts about books. Thanks for the chat!
Thank you so much for watching, Adam! I'm glad we could add a laugh to your day. Every voice matters, you'd be more than welcome in the Booktube sphere!
Jimmy is a class act. Such a great chat - thanks for hosting Tori :)
Thanks so much for watching, Zammar! I had a great time chatting with him.
I really loved this. This was legitimately one of the best discussions I've watched in a while.
Thank you so much for watching!
Good chat
I struggle so much with the Hobbit! 😂😂 But not Lord of the Rings, which is a bit confusing
That's totally fair! I've heard people struggle both ways!
Paksennarion FTW!!!! Tori, You will appreciate it even if you don't like it a lot.
Awesome! I’m really looking forward to it!
2:32:49 the goblin himself did exactly this and I think that was a great video. I actually fall asleep to it now just because of how soothing it is
Don’t be a moon calf Jimmy.
My favorite fantasy series is Thomas Covenant. It is not grimdark, though I get while some call it that. It is an opera high fantasy in book form. I have a hard time recommending it to people though as the "protagonist" commits an atrocity at the start (Or does he?) and people will stop reading right there.
I loved the first 6 Covenant books. They are so under-rated. I haven't read the latest ones and have heard they aren't worth the read.
@@knotslip8862 Well, I have read all ten and loved all ten. Some of the best scenes are in those last 4 books, scenes you'll remember forever.
I've had it recommended to me but I am hesitant simply because of what I've heard. I may get to it someday, you never know!
@@ToriTalks2 Yeah, it happens on page and it's rough. But there is purpose behind it that no one else has ever used and most people miss. Still, when people stop there I can't blame them.
@@Montie-Adkins Cool, i own them so maybe I will read them to complete the series. Thanks.
I'm on draft 4 of revisions for my scifi book I'm writing, and yeah, its only a hundred pages long(so far, still adding stuff lmao) and it is exhausting, just level of scrutiny I have give the thing. Maybe its the 7 different characters you follow(3rd limited, if you're wondering, so each chapter is split by "viewpoint" as I call it) maybe I'm just real bad, but yeah, taking so long to get through this draft
Definitely so much work to keep it all straight and do it justice! Best of luck with the rest of your writing. 🔥🤘🏻
I read Prince of Nothing and I may go back to the series but I feel R. Scott Bakker is not for me
Currently reading Warlord Chronicles and I'm liking it a lot, just finished book one today
About Malazan: how dark is it?
Because I loved ALL of Realm of the Elderlings, and felt like all of it was done for a distinct purpose and all the dark upsetting things were turned for the better, if that makes sense. All of the characters grow and rise from the trauma they experience.
But I couldn't do Game of Thrones because things just kept getting worse and worse, more and more bleak, and so cynical. It's like the bleak world is slowly draining the characters of all goodness.
So where's Malazan on that spectrum?
Great question. Malazan deals with a lot of very dark themes, but like you found in RotE, everything is done very purposefully. Erikson has a really solid approach to writing human experience, and in my opinion, it's not gratuitous.
I find it less bleak than Game of Thrones. I wanted to keep going with Malazan, where Game of Thrones just left me mostly depressed and sluggish, not really wanting to continue the series. I think Erikson does a better job overall of letting you feel your own way about what's happening in the story. He presents characters and their lives and their struggles in a very intimate way despite the scope of the world.
Does that help at all?
@@ToriTalks2 YES. THANK YOU.
Do you have any advice going in? Audiobook, physical.... Is it something to carry around and read bits and pieces or is it a sit down and focus for the whole chapter type book? I've of course heard the "it's confusing!" "No it's not!" dialogue, so yeah, just wondering if you (as someone who loves it) have any misconceptions you can dispell for me
@@thomasray Absolutely! I would actually recommend against the audiobooks, they didn't consult Erikson on the pronunciation of names and things, and it's not super well produced imo. I would definitely read it physical.
I would try whenever possible to sit down and commit to larger portions of it at a time, if you can. And I highly recommend just letting the story unfold, don't try to "figure it all out" all at once. Let the characters lead you through it.
I don't think it's confusing necessarily as much as just vast in scope. There's SO much history and lore and detail in it. But where Erikson really excels is grounding you in intimate character experiences despite the scope of the world they're in.
Malazan is extremely dark a lot of times and some moments of despair will weigh on you like a mountain, but it also always balances that out with extremely cathartic moments of beauty, acts of compassion and humanity. There are true heroes in these books. The main overarching theme of the series is compassion after all and if you should know one thing about Steven Erikson is that he writes theme like nobody else can.
@@ToriTalks2seconded!
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