SPENCER - Movie Review
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Thought it was a breath of fresh air from the usual boring royal bio pic. One of the best of the year! Oscar nom for Kristen Stewart!
I am not gonna lie I felt suffocated by this film. I loved this film.
Diana meets Henry's six wives in a hallway: "Hello Diana. Come play with us. For ever, and ever, and ever....."
I get so annoyed when people say that a score is doing heavy lifting in a negative way. The score should do heavy lifting
I really disagree with you here, but still, you have such a way with words that I almost was convinced I was wrong in liking it. I thought the appearance of Anne Boleyn felt more like Diana’s coping mechanism, of course also serving as some sort of metaphor.
My favorite of the year so far!
I think you have the most specific set of standards when it comes to liking a film. But I still appreciate your film critiques. I tend to get emotional during movies, and the emotional aspect of this film really got to me. One of the most thematically and visually engaging movies I’ve seen in a while.
The whole film is just like a dream sequence. Not bad at all though.
I feel like you misread the whole film.
Oh Maggie I can't trust your judgment on this because movie SEEMS like something I would watch! lol
Licorice Pizza, The Power of the Dog, Spencer... this year belongs to Jonny Greenwood.
Best movie of the year so far in my opinion
Average film - nothing special
Speaking of Diana Spencer being of noble birth:
It seems weird how *this movie* would completely ignore that and *sensationalize her like some kind of tragic, common Cinderella.*
Even though its script writer, Steven Knight, is British, it's like this movie *portrayed her through the American (or otherwise, non-British) gaze.* Perhaps a ploy to try to appeal to shallow film-goers who simply want a *more "relatable" story-line!*
I honestly think people should just leave Diana alone. Let her Rest In Peace. Didn’t she die because people were unhealthily obsessed with her? She was like the rest of us, a person with problems. Why sensationalize it? Yea, the film looks great but for what end?
If they had to make a movie about her, it should have been more nuanced, perhaps exploring her relationship with her mother and lovers? But still, they dig up her legacy for awards. Cheap
@@richgranados11 While people love to dream about princesses, I suspect they would hate to meet a real one in real life.
@@Suite_annamite I mean, they’re hardly any left isn’t there?. Monarchies have been on the down ever since the French Revolution. This movie wants to make Make Monarchies Great again. It wants to romanticize being born rich, aristocratic and misunderstood. No thanks.
I think you’re underestimating how much she came across that way irl
I went in expecting a much more nuanced portrayal of Diana, just seems like an interesting figure. While I did appreciate them focusing on a specific time zone, honing in on her very life instead of her death, the people around her, instead of forcing this overall importance upon her. I did however agree that the final touch of character wasn't quite there. It was kind of like watching a PTA film but not being overwhelmed with nuance and intrigue by the end.
I thought the point in the film about how the general public and media feed into and perpetuate the royal family's behaviors and traditions was interesting, as it allowed room to empathize with the royals instead of viewing them as complete villains with no nuance to them. I interpreted the ending as an illustration that Diana achieved a brief moment of freedom and fun with her family, but she will never escape to a normal life. Once the news spreads about her departure, the cameras will always be following and watching. I agree with your point about the "on the nose" symbolism though
Every film based on Diana has to make her image into a saint its just more profitable
The beginning of the movie was a little more promising than the later half. I think the score was highly effective and sort of carried the dissiray of the film. Also Kristen Stewart's performance was very good. For me though, the film got lost in its aesthetic and never really left the surface, even in its surreal moments. Emotionally charged though, definitely relatable for most.
I feel as if the "A Christmas Carol" allusions/narrative is being overlooked when it comes to this movie.
Looking at some of the indoor dinner footage and I get Barry Lyndon vibes with the infamous Zeiss f/0.7 lenses and the custom made candles. Not that the movies are anywhere near in terms of craft and story telling but it does remind me of it.
The costumes look exquisite btw, I can certainly see it being front runner for Best Costume Design this year at the Oscars along with WSS and Dune.
K-stew is my jam, my jelly, my peanut butter and my peanuts.
Seems like this type of films are always afraid to make beloved historical figures flawed or unsympathetic due to backlash
I just began watching your videos. I been watching for a month now. Allow me to say that you are so beautiful, cute, smart and creative 💘. I hope you keep going and never stop making these.
maybe it's because we were very high, but my girlfriend and i enjoyed it a lot. she told me she was the verge of tears for almost the entire runtime.
I’m interested in watching this movie because of the director. I’ve seen some of his work before and I like his style. He’s also a very nice and articulate person in interviews. I agree with you on Jackie. It looks great and had some great moments in it but ultimately I was a little bored by the end.
Do you take requests? Would you please review Larrain’s film Neruda? I quite liked that one a lot and it was my introduction to the director. And I’d love to hear you’re thoughts on it.
Honestly i was magical and i loved it and kristen's performance was breathtaking
Is there any chance you could do Upstream Color, please? I would love to hear your take.
I'm a fellow movie fan but you're channel is such an refreshing and new way of seeing movies in such an detailed and brilliant way love your thought out and entertaining reviews keep it up you're doing it so well
I think ppl are making the mistake in thinking this film is about Diana when it’s not. It’s a fable (with all the baggage that entails) using Diana and her persona to contextualize it.
I love this movie and I’ve had a hard time rationalizing why. There’s something in it, in the obviousness of the metaphors, in the camp appeal in Stewart’s Performance, in the anxiety of Larrain’s camera.
There’s this entire streak in the movie (that is more in the direction than the writing) about how childish Diana is. Something so fascinating about that.
Also the idea of “she’s just a normal girl” where she gets along better with staff better than the royals also feels like a subversion.
It felt more for me that it’s so sad that the only ppl she can relate to are the ppl paid to respect her no matter what and her children who look up to her like a goddess.
There’s something in this movie, underpinning it beyond just the anxiety. That tops over into absurdity in a way I find captivating.
There’s a grim fairly tale element to the whole thing. I’ve called it CARNIVAL OF SOULS smooshed together with BARRY LYNDON.
You got me at Carnival of Souls and Barry Lyndon. I'll watch it now.
@@denniszenanywhere let me know what you think.
@@iansmart4158 I saw it in a rundown theater and the audio was bad, I could hardly understand what was being said. So I left in the halfway point. I see why you're calling it Carnival of Souls but it felt more like Repulsion. I am afraid I am on the side of DeepFocusLens in her assessment of the movie. Great cinematography too but I find it lacking in narrative content. It could also have been more grounded. I wonder how Pride and Prejudice writer-actor Emma Thompson would have treated it if she wrote it. As for Kristen's acting, I didn't like it. I may have preferred Krisen channeling Jessica Lange in Music Box. One of the best acting performances I've seen and very natural, not too studied. Perhaps Spencer is not the type of film for me. I'll need to watch it again when it comes online.
@@denniszenanywhere funnily enuff, I rewatched it’s today and all my little quibbles about the movie have evaporated.
Even some of my doubt in the stewart performance were gone on rewatch. I think it’s an extraordinary performance. All feeling and gesture, truly rewatching allowed me to ignore the accent and really put attention on the little things. Her strut, her hands, her eyes, gestures. It’s a pretty full-bodied performance.
Also also, it feels more Carnival of Souls to me because Repulsion is about invading space and bodies but Spencer felt more like the world was constantly watching and closing in.
The first scene where she asks for directions and everyone is just staring at her ominously. Then there’s the way Her husband looks at her without saying a word.
It’s never a threat on her person but just an overall vibe of maliciousness which feels very CoS to me.
@@denniszenanywhere to be fair this film purposefully didn’t have a traditional narrative/storyline because it’s mean to be a psychological look on what finally made Diana separate herself from Charles and the Royal Family.
You are right that it’s not for everyone and some won’t completely get it at the first watch.
I couldn’t agree more with your critique. I wanted to love this film and Kristen’s performance, but it just wasn’t there.
Oscar nom! Let’s go!
I agree with you!
Best best actress Kristen Stewart🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Interesting take. I really liked this movie but can see how it isn't for everybody. I got to watch Jackie now since we are at polar opposites. I'll probably love it.
Well said.
Yeah!
Ohhhh dear! Looks like I will struggle with this one. My friend wants to see it. I'll keep stumm
How do you know you will struggle with this one when you haven't even seen the movie yet don't be influenced by this snidey review judge for yourself you might not struggle with the movie you might actually enjoy it i tend to find most of the movies she dislikes i end up enjoying..........
@@TechNoir-wz5icHey there. Appreciate your input. Don't worry, I don't always agree with what M says here. I was just a bit unsure anyway, after seeing the trailer. Even Mark Kermode in the UK said there is lots in the film that's a bit 'on the nose'. I will probably watch it anyway, as my friend wants to go. Cheers 🇬🇧
This movie was a steaming pile. 100% agree with your points. I actually groaned, "this movie is SO BAD!!" when Diana "was" Anne Boleyn!?!? Stupid KFC product placement at end. Just dumb
Thank you! I thought it was terrible as well, I did not feel like she hey Diana very well either.
I loved this film, just like I loved “The Many Saints..”. However, at 44 years old I guess I am just too easily pleased.
naw u right bro. spencer is a masterpiece, im 18 and i think so. age dont matter, u got good taste
You should review A cop movie, it is a mexican documentary available in netflix. It is directed by Alonso Ruiz Palacios he is one of my favorite directors. ;)
Have you seen No (2013)?? By the same director Pablo Larraín. It's great Imo
Can i DM you anywhere? Want to discuss a film script!
I liked the movie, but it’s bizarre. It’s almost like Pablo Larrain was given a biopic, but he would have preferred something more in line with Kubrick, or Lynch, and that’s what he did. We ended up with this freaky mash-up of Princess Di, and The Shining.
The movie was very pretty but I have to agree with your view points 🙂👍
THANK YOU for this review, after coming out of the cinema and seeing all the overhwelmingly gushing reviews I thought I was insane but your review says absolutely everything that is going on in my mind after seeing this film haha 🤣
The rather disturbing cult around Diana is sadly the only way she'll ever be portrayed in films. I only hope we one day can see Christopher Hitchen's brutally honest image of her (*and* media's canonization of her during her life). That of a naive, young woman who literally believed she was becoming a Disney princess and fully embraced it because she was woefully inexperienced in life (even for her young age) and the goings of the world. Despite her not doing anything but dressing fashionably she became a saintly figure for a large part of the public. If not a serious film this could make a great satire about media's and the public's infatuation about celebrities they know nothing about.
Alas, nil nisi bonum.
Kristen Stewart is ironically well-cast in this role. While she may have depth as a person she lacks the ability to portray layers as an actress and it's all about the surface. Diana's personality was all surface too. I therefore don't see a talented actress aching to portray her. If Diana was a fictional character she would be considered flat and poorly written.
She knew it was coming. She knew what she was up against. She suffered. She died.
If you look at it like the royal family had her killed it’s more interesting. Despite the seemingly happy ending we all knew what was coming. The final scene of Charles walking into the room… plotting.
This read makes it more interesting.
Also she’s standing right outside the Tower of London on the end shot. Where Anne Boleyn spent her last days and was executed. What’s to stop them from doing it to her….
Idk it can be more complex. As a character study it’s compelling. I can’t imagine finding parallels in Anne Boleyn’s story. She’s singular. And dead. We can only make presumptions.
I think ultimately what’s most interesting is we look at her like a celebrity. She’s a royal. There’s 1,000 years of crazy shit royals did. Documented. Wives killed. Nephews killed. Brothers killed. All she was saying was “it could happen…”
You need to see Ema, it rocks
She knew it was coming. She knew what she was up against. She suffered. She died.
If you look at it like she was in constant fear because she did not fit… it’s heavier. It wasn’t just the fear of ostracizing… it was death. Hence Anne Boleyn metaphor.
I don’t think it needs to be subversive… the blatantness is what’s compelling. People are conspiring against her yet there isn’t an out despite the constant public scrutiny. Protect the monarchy at all costs.
Also she’s standing right outside the Tower of London on the end shot. Where Anne Boleyn spent her last days and was executed. What’s to stop them from doing it to her….
Idk it can be more complex. As a character study it’s compelling. I can’t imagine finding parallels in Anne Boleyn’s story. Diana’s singular. And dead. We can only make presumptions.
I think ultimately what’s most interesting is we look at her like a celebrity. She’s a royal. There’s 1,000 years of crazy shit royals did. Documented. Wives killed. Nephews killed. Brothers killed. All she was saying was “it could happen…”
I really hate that people keep reading it as a liberation story.
I'm in Love
Best review of Spencer so far, in my opinion.
Spencer For Hire?
I disgaree with you on this film. I loved this. Not everything has to be entertainment. Some films should go deeper into the unknown side of famous figures. Or even be cinema.
The Green Knight is great too. But i don't mindlessly praise something. But was shocked to see the low audience scores for the movie. So, i understand.
I haven’t seen it but the first thing I thought from the trailer was The Shining
A bit of a downer of a film.
The ending was odd, like the end belonged to a different movie.
The jazzy music score was unexpected, but worked well.
Also, why are all modern film makers compelled to show a throw-up scene? Every single movie contains a scene where a character has to randomly puke.😡
Great review. Totally agree. Thanks
Dear I think you are a little too harsh, especially about the ending. It is not about KFC, but who orders it, "Spencer". May be we need more substance and less cliché, for me the problem is not Stewart or the script but the direction that can´t decide if this is horror, a psychological study on madness or bulimia, or some sort of a bio that bids for freedom. I would have fleshed out a little more Diana's character and past (with flashbacks) and used the sterotypical royal characters for horror purposes, except for Charles they shouldnt even speak. Your are right about many things. In Rebecca a maid was enough to drive Fontaine´s character's crazy. Here we have dozens of people harassing Spencer. I would have started with a fairly normal Diana to then have her disintigrate as hours go by. Here she is always too anxious. Stewart overacts, and that is not her fault, but the director. Yes, Rebecca, The snake pit, or The innocents handled similar material better, with less fanfarre. Sorry for Stewart and Spencer.
Someone's probably already pointed it out, but Anastasia isn't Disney ☝️
Apart from that, I like your review, I disagree, but you're still very fair towards the film I think
Totally agree! Great review!!
It's honestly way better to watch The Crown.
Its not. The crown is good but very generic compared to spencer
I thought you were going to review that bad Mark Wahlberg Netflix movie.
I totally agree with your assessment of the film. The Anne Boelyn (spelling?) thing was interesting at first, but was overworked, and failed to "land" anywhere. Anne B. at the top of the stairs was horribly mismanaged. Too bad so much of the movie is so well-done. Her weird interactions with the maids, for example. The creepy dinner scene/fantasy with the eating of the pearls is straight out of a silent horror film - the camera staying on the faces of the ghouls "naively" longer than necessary. The scene of Diana crossing the moonlit field to her childhood home looks like something directly out of Daphne du Maurier. The Queen and Charles were very well-cast, but the characters aren't allowed to DO enough.
I do feel like you were a bit harsh on this film. I didn’t love it either but a lot of the stuff you criticize could be seen as intentional. The ridiculous performances and scenes taken from other stories seem to add to the films camp and it’s that aspect I feel that went unacknowledged in your review. I don’t think this is a typical Oscar bait film by any means. It’s rather silly and strange. I do think it is shallow in its style and commentary. It’s clearly going for an almost Del Toro thing by reshaping reality through the fantastical lens, trying to understand reality through poetic fiction and fairy tales. It doesn’t really stick the landing though.
I agree a lot. Seen most reviews praising the film so much and I agree it was stunning to look at and hear. But i feel Dianna was made to seem crazy, getting upset over every little thing. I ultimately feel as if they didn’t fully understand Diana as a person. She was kind but also strong and would never have gotten her kids involved in their issues. Just felt they didn’t portray her as well as they should have. Feel the crown did a better job in doing so.
Sadly in real life, Diana did confide in William about her issues even when he was a young child. I don’t fully blame her though, and it’s important to remember that she was a human being.
Great movie and great video too.💯👍
Yeah. The subject matter is too thin to withstand any rigorous scrutiny.
I don't have a problem with critics being honest about a film they didn't like at all but when it crosses the line into mocking and ridicule for instance in this case 11:57 to 12:00 that's what i take issue with there is something about your style of reviewing that just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.......and your problem with the way the royals were depicted in this movie as oppressive and villainous well from my memory its actually pretty accurate i remember in 1997 i was 16 at the time when princess Diana was killed in that car crash the utter lack of emotion from the Queen and the Royals made the Headlines and the queens infamous flat emotionless speech about Diana after her death stuck with me during that time so i think your criticism of the way they were depicted in the movie is way off.......
Her cynicism is just so negative.
@@shadowseer07 That's what critics are supposed to do. Give their positive and negative of whatever movie they are critiquing.
I thought it was a fair criticism of Stewart’s acting.
Wow. My prediction that you would address Spencer with essentially a "meh" was way off. As soon as you said "more like a Disney princess" I'm just like yeah, she's straight-up savaging the fuck out of this one.
This is a really good review, in part because you describe the film so vividly I now feel like I've watched it myself.
I remember watching the wedding early on a Saturday morning also I
Watched “Shampoo” with Warren Beatty from 1975 last night remember when movies were mature and interesting to watch and performances were expected? Anyway watching that got me thinking about that and movies like Network etc
I find you very interesting and perceptive but you missed this one- a great film.
I think she doesn't deserve to be in Diana's biography role movie, cause she has ever had an affair in a real life with a married man and she is not continuing her sequel movie"hunstman" because of the published scandal.
Totally Agree !! Especially about Stewart !
Even though I'm interested in seeing this, I have a reservation. I discovered Diana's death in the Sunday morning paper. I was crushed. Afterwards I spent hours watching the funeral. Finally I had to turn it off because I realized the depression was eating me up. It wasn't mentally healthy. I don't want to revisit that feeling.
Honestly, I like Emma Corrin's Diana over Kirsten Stewart's portrayal. Kirsten Stewart definitely nailed the mannerisms and portrayed the expressive emotion to raw levels. But I feel Emma's portrayal is more nuanced and subtle, where you feel more bottled up pain with no real cathartic release.
agree, this movie is too pretentious, and more wimpier and pettier than the real diane. big ass fail.
Hated the film and I think you hit on why. Felt like an empty shell of a movie on an icon, did nothing for me.
Pablo haters ain’t nothing new talking bout unoriginal lmao
One of those films where I can totally recognize it's a bad script full of underlined obviousness, but I just got swept away by the storytelling anyway. Ghostly movie really, not just in terms of Diana, even everyone else around the palace other than the two princes feels like an oppressive phantom.
I can empathize with you on that. I'm that way about Hitchcock's Rebecca (1940). I fully get swept up in the melodrama every time, despite its flaws.
"Actual content of the narrative." What does that even mean?
The "meat" of the narrative. Characters, subplots, etc..
@@deepfocuslens I'm not sure that's what cinema is all about. I rather see it as a necessary evil (quite often unnecessary, in fact) to hang the actual cinematic qualities on. Altman used to talk in such terms, and I agree with him.
@@sandorx4 I agree. And I mentioned that many great postmodern filmmakers could cleverly implement very abstract and unique visual metaphors within a more skeletal narrative, and it works brilliantly. All films have narrative. All films have content within that narrative. This film for me was full of cookie-cutter, overwrought ideas that provided nothing beyond a shell of depth. Seems a bit counterintuitive to the overall intent. That is my complaint.
Not feeling it. Content of Narrative? I would not call it content. What you put in youtube is content. I mean creators. This movie is cinema. Direction, cinematography, screenplay, editing. It's a psychological fever dream which dares to explore its subject with depth and nuance. Until......you offend everybody how this is not diana because this is not her. That's idiotic. To all the ones in audience who gave it a negative review based on potrayal of diana, did you know her personally? Were you close to her? This was a different and more intimate look at her, beyong the media and people's perception of 'princess'. Remember, they are people too. She might be an icon, but she is no different than us. So, it makes sense that this portrays her in this way. Monotonous and melancholic.
So whatever you think, its good. And more than that, biographical films have little to no creativity, as its difficult to fictionalize true events you heard or witnessed.
This is what i had to say.
For me, the journey to her childhood home wearing the dinner dress is surrealist not actual. I am not even sure in reality that her childhood family home is that close to Sandringham Castle. This is more a psychological character study, rather than a historic bio.
can't wait to see this movie, looks amazing. it sounds like you're in the mood to just rant for the sake of it.
this film was boring and pretentious af and it felt really exploitative. I don't understand the hype and love. Love your take on it
Bad movie... I've watched it few weeks ago. I can't connect with main character at all and there's a lot of propaganda in it. Production is good and that's all.
I agree with you. I thought the film was more artistic than something that could really have been. It does not seem like a fable that could have been based on a real tragedy. I feel that Diana's personality was not captured. I do not think the film shows who Diana was really was. Diana was known as "shy Di" when she was alive. I don't think she would have been as aggressive as this Diana. A lot of the film depended on viewers understanding what we believe happened to happened to Diana in the real world before she died. The Diana in the film feels entitled. The ending worked for this film, but the entire film was odd ... too many metaphors, and probably mixed. I do not believe that Stewart used the correct voice for Diana, who had a voice and did not whisper. Sally Hawkins is a wonderful actress. I was disappointed with this movie and It was really built up to be something moving.
I hated Jackie, so I’m sure I would dislike this one too. I’ll give it a chance when it comes to cable/streaming.
Diana's story has been done to death already. The whole world saw it played out at tedious length in the media. I doubt there's much new to say about it at this point.
Kristen Stewart knows that doing a dead on impression of a historical figure in a biopic is a direct road to an Oscar nomination. She's trying to show that she can do this kind of highly technical performance.
Pretty rude to assume that. Stewart was asked to play the role, she didn’t actively seek it out. Furthermore, she has been very passionate, respectful and vocal about Diana as a person.
@@ambivalent3995 yes exactly. And it explores Diana’s personal identity, separate from the Princess of Wales that was seen by the public - hence why it’s called Spencer.
This movie was a big, dumb, pretentious turkey. IT was just endless banter between cartoonish robotic people. It has no point or purpose.
The way you describe this director having not seen any of his films, he seems like he's trying to appeal to the modern "feminists" by using historical women (first Jackie Onassis now Princess Diana) while pretending to be artsy and as you said, trying to win Oscars.
The films from his home country CHILE are very different from his English stuff. He’s a big history guy, re-contextualizing it in his movies.
Also he writes very few of his scripts. Both Jackie and Ema were written by others and he came on to direct. He doesn’t originate his stories usually.
Really interesting how it seems to be women who are kristen stewart's harshest critics. nevertheless she was f'n brilliant no question about it.
I felt very similarly about the movie....itsbeautiful but I was bored the whole movie... also Anne Boleyn compareson is fair actually,many history tudors have compared Anne to Diana but in this movie they focused on this a little too much inmy opinion
Thank you for an in-depth analysis. I got a similar impression when I watched the trailer. Going to pass on this one.
Sometimes trailers can be a misrepresentation of the film itself i think it's sad that after this review you are going to give a pass on this movie don't take this review as gospel give the film a chance and make up YOUR own mind lol.............
I watched Maggie’s review before seeing Spencer, and Spencer is my number 1 favorite movie of 2021. There’s a chance you may love this movie.
Lol it's ridiculous how so many critics are gushing over this Oscar bait but when I saw the trailer the problems you have with it is almost like a soundbite of what I feared it would be like! 😂
Thank you I hated this film thought it was unbearable
You are very intelligent, indeed. But you got this one wrong. A fascinating film and a true breakthrough for Kristen Stewart. Best performance of her career by far. Your review is a clear example of how meaningless critics are, due to the fact that all opinions are just subjective diatribes. Just as you love 2001, there are those that would rather die than watch it a second time. I'm sorry, but my respect for you has just taken a major plunge.
Maybe she didn't get it wrong, her opinion might just differ from yours.
LOL you're projecting so much. You are hilariously wrong. Which is clear by many of the comments here.
Great analysis. Truly an awful film...I also can't think of any great Kristen Stewart performances, there are way more actresses that deserve that kind of attention and casting.
In my opinion Stewart does not give a great performance. She still has the same constipated look in her face, she doesn't reflect someone with grace and style. I really don't understand the hype surrounding her.
i thought she was incredibly great in Cafe Society
@@basehead617 I don't agree. To me she only has one expression and a monotone voice, a truly boring actress.
What the fuck are you talking about? This movie isn’t trying to be horror. Not even close lol