I still hope they will eventually add a regen mechanic to his kit, like maybe making him regen health when he's losing rage or something like that. It's just so weird for wolverine to not have some kind of health regen.
I feel like that would be broken. He alr has that extra health passive and gets so much value from kidnapping tanks. But im in plat elo lol i cant speak for the pros
Spiderman got a NERF actually. You can't animation cancel his overhead flip double punch attack thing anymore. Basically he got bug fixed/nerfed on his damage.
i practiced it a lot, i got it off perfectly i think probably 40% of the time in ranked, when i realized it would take A LOT of practice to be super consistent i left spidey alone dont wanna way the team down, feel bad for the players that where absolute gods with him, i got about 18 hours with him
-That Namor/Luna team-up buff might be a problem, like a big one -Squirrel girl ult might not be the worst in the game anymore(might actually be one of the better ones now) -Black Widow still not getting enough love -Keeping an eye on that change to Luna ult swapping between DMG and HLT -Seems like the devs really like Punisher, rightfully so he's a casual character that can stay strong at any rank -Wanda buff has me very curious(sexually)
-Moon knight ult buff sounds really good -Psylocke ult notes sound confusing so we'll have to see -Hopefully Cap is not the worst or 2nd worst vanguard anymore
@w_out7631 its the same you just got use to its quirks, learn to position the enemy to your left and try looking down (seriously tried it in practice range) and you will hit more
Your take on rocket is how I feel 100% I feel like most situations I can't alternate because it's too slow so I just end up spamming heal even though rocket has great damage potential
This is also the first time I red the Patch Notes.. HOLY Namor's spawn are too freakin broken now and he's already a good ranged DPS but now it's like you're getting 2 heroes damage from 1
@crackedblack1410 I think they addressed the weird hit registration with vibranium marks not properly resetting his dash, so I think BP will be fine. His speed is what keeps him alive more so than his bonus health, anyway
@@Mr.Ford3350 while that is true, since they didn't buff his cooldowns, as missing only one dash usually kills you if ur not at full health, less extra HP means he will get wrecked even quicker. And are u sure that they've fixed that bug?
Happy that Rocket got a few buffs, he's easily the most fun support. I don't know how he got them in the first place given how he has a surprisingly high pick rate AND high win rate at higher levels, despite the consensus being that he's more on the weak side by those that don't play him
Most people who play rivals are bad at rivals or other games, just a fact, a game as popular as this is bound to have a large unintelligent vocal minority.
I agree. He was super fun during the alpha cuz you could easily put out 10k dmg as raccoon in a match. I wish they had gone for a weapon dmg buff rather than healing but atleast youll be able to shoot your gun more often if your healing orbs do more per shot.
@akaiYaMa9 He does NOT need a damage buff, poor dive characters and frontline tanks get shredded the moment he starts shooting at them. You want them to die even FASTER?? I think you probably mean an increase to his weapon's effective range, which I think would be fine. Going from 10m to 15m before falloff damage occurs would probably be fine, but his damage can easily get out of control if they start buffing his gun
@@Mr.Ford3350 no, the buff I was hoping for was an increased projectile speed. Currently his gun feels like a water hose where you're trying to hit someone beyond 10 meters you have to lead your shots several feet in front of them. In a game where you have heroes moving in every single dimension, flying, and ghost dashing nonstop through you, I don't think it's a lot to ask that my bullets go where my curser is pointing rather than hitting where my curser was 2 seconds prior. I've find it very strange that he's carrying a mini gun that shoot bullets that are projectiles rather than hitscan but maybe there magical slow bullets 🤔
He is nowhere near Luna or Mantis levels, and his ult is arguably the second worst strategist ult. The only time you’d really want to pick Rocket over Luna or mantis (you still want one or the other, preferably Luna) is if you have punisher/Bucky. His mobility and BRB are super good though.
Bro how is the psylocke change a buff? She does the same thing just deals damage to barriers so when dr strange puts a shield she doesnt hit him like she did bit she hits the barrier. Thats 100% a nerf
Logan's EHP with undying animal is 600 before and 583 after, that's not a nerf to his ability at all, just an adjustment, this is basically a free +50 max hp
Not sure if you’re aware but they fixed the bug on Spider-Man that allowed him do a continuous combo from the air by doing an ability cancel into a hook back in the air. It now makes him finish the animation so you can’t do the complete combo anymore.. definitely a nerf.. one of if not his best combos
I’d really like Magik to have slightly faster atk speed, she just feels clunky to play right now even when you combo properly. I think smoothing out her swing some would feel a lot better
As a spidey main, i am so in agreeance with ur thoughts at the end. I get why they are so worried about buffing spiderman, cuz like widow if they buff the wrong things or by the wrong amounts, he would be BUSTED. also I guess they wanna make him really deserving of that 5 star difficulty. Like him and psylocke are the only ones with it, yet tbh he has to work SO MUCH harder than her. She feels more like a 3 or 4 star to play. But im not just agreeing cuz i main him. I actually dont want him too strong either. I just want him SLIGHTLY stronger than Season 0 and he'll be completely fine. 275 health might be a bit strong for how mobile he is, but i agree with the cooldown reset if ur target lock gets blocked and the webswing resets were a cool idea, but another risky one. Just buff his damage slightly and make his webshooters refill faster or give the option to reload. Those are the biggest things id say. Great video bro
Team ups are still too strong. Makes solo queue almost impossible if they have, and you don't. Forcing someone to play a character they either aren't good at, don't like, or never played will never be good in a team game.
Invisible woman has big AoE short/medium-range healing, and her ult is another luna ult in AoE healing. As I see it Black Panther is the only real AoE counter to clumped teams, and he just got considerably nerfed---I fear for the clumping/Goats meta taking over.
Glad other people are calling out Rocket's cd between primary and alt fire being the thing that needs tuning. He's so fun to play but feels a bit lacking in some ways from other strategists currently
i really dont get why they dont fix cap shield , like in no way being unable to pull it midair is fair while strange wips it out when ever he wants with no 1 second cooldown delay
The venom ult you mentioned would be really inconsistent due to different HP targets for example 500hp -25% (125hp) then -25% [(base health)125hp] {assuming target is full hp} Lets say 500base but target is at 300 -25% (75) -25%(125hp) it would basically flip his ultimate play style instead of being really good at starting fights it would be a good fight ended I think the issue would come with the shields he gets I believe that would be too strong but idk I’m a casual plat
I'm guessing they want Namor as an antiflank or defensive hero but in real use he's just going to be a flanker or super aggressive hero lol he's going to be a slasher villain.
@@dijiii Lot of people play him as flanker on side angles season 0 already. Have you played the game? lol That is one of the metas and it's gonna be worse in S1. "He has no movement" He has a great escape button and three turrets.
Maybe this is just me, but i feel like they could've done more for wolverine. The extra health is great, but there's other things in his kit that need improvement.
glad iron fist was untouched lw sad banner didnt get any good buffs and rlly happy logan got 350 health but dont know why they lowered all his other stuff, he needs it bc he is a tank buster.
The Jeff ulti fix is a godsend. I can't even tell how many times I get eaten when floating as Storm. It made 0 sense The namor buff is truly questionable, must be the main of one of the devs
A lot of these changes are retartet, tho I’m most happy about storm getting buffed. Hela and hawkeye got no real nerfs which is a damn shame. Hela did not need a health nerf as if that’s her issue, she needed her daggers to be further limited or at least a longer delay in her throws. Hawkeye needs a reload on his arrows, give him like 3 arrows while keep everything the same and require him to reload.
So guess I'm technically low elo. Gold may as well be at least. But the only problem with iron fist is if you're a flyer and he just constantly sticks on you. with storm changes I might be able to punish him for being able to infinitely fly and stick on me, even if I fly around corners. But that's really the only gripe. He does need something, but I don't know what, without turning him into a menace. Perhaps the devs are also trying to figure that out.
If they nerfed bp like that without fixing his bugs he might be unplayable. He's already heavy countered by flyers and people that can react dodge his dash or cancel it, like for instance if bucky charges at you same time he wins the duel and ur not getting a refresh or damage, star lord can easily right click the dash so u dont get a reset and gets fucked, also fly which is obvious problem, scarlet witch who also got a buff can ez dodge with her fade out, a well timed smoke grenade of punisher, etc, etc, etc. His bugs go beyond no hit reg on occasional marks aswell, so hope they atleast fixed the bugs bcus imo the most fun hero. And it wouldn't be so bad to give a little bit of shield when he does his ultimate now that they nerfed his base shields on dashes through marks, think that would be a decent compensation cus he dies too often at the charge up of his ult
I hate to be that guy. I know Mantis is easily in the top 5 heroes right now. No debating that, but nerfing her movement speed buff is a gut punch. I’ve spent dozens of hours getting comfortable with her mechanically and it feels a bit like wasted effort. Getting changes to your main hero’s movement speed, projectile speed, projectile drop, or anything of that nature just sucks. Increase the base time to regen her seeds, reduce her self or ally damage buff %, reduce the duration of her buffs, reduce the radius of her sleep…do literally anything except this type of nerf where we have to relearn the hero’s mechanical feel.
Agreed, as a mantis main, the easiest way to nerf mantis was to reduce her damage output a little as that is where she’s kinda OP. Reducing her movement speed is low IQ move. Idk what these devs are thinking. I regret spending money on this game now. I broke my own rule of sinking 350 hrs at least before putting money into a free game but I drank the kool aid and thought the devs couldn’t do wrong. Seriously some of these changes are idiotic
300 x 2/1 = 600 350 x 5/3 = 583 While he'll have higher base health, his effective health when using his e will be slightly reduced. Factor in the constant damage and healing when he goes in, and he should be noticeably less tanky.
@@hermitmoth6118 was thinking the same , but it's a really good buff when you realise that most of the time you are not in E ability and Hawkeye can't 1 shot you at 350 hp
The Hawkeye thingy is huge. 17 less HP at max compared to 50 more HP the rest of the time seems decent. 700 effective HP in his passive is already a lot. 700 effective HP with his skill would be huge buff.
Where do you get those numbers bro? I don't understand, if 40% of 350 is 140 if we add up will be 490 and 50% of 300 is 150 if we add up us 450 in total, where you getting those numbers
@@ElLacrita He is talking about damage reduction , we get 50% damage reduction we effectively get DOUBLE the HP. How you may ask? if 50% damage was reduced then we will only take 50% of the damage and 100/50 = 2 and 2*300 (previous health) = 600hp Now let's see for the new S1 change- now we have 40% damage reduction so we only take 60% of the damage , 100/60 = 5/3 and (5/3)*350 (new health) = 583.33
@@ElLacrita Your mistake is in thinking that he gets bonus health; rather, his health gets harder to take. Effective health is base health x defence, meaning to kill a wolverine using his e before the patch, you need to deal 600 damage. Post patch, he'll take 3/5 (60%) damage with base 350 health, therefore 5/3 of 350 is his effective health.
when streamers do patch notes videos, it’s hard for me to follow when you don’t read out each hero’s name before the changes. i’m often at work listening and can’t watch much
bro requesting Luna and Mantis to be 250hp when he never plays as a strategist is crazy 💀💀 It's already insufferable being the main target of the enemy team, imagine with 250hp... instant death, spawn, instant death again. Nobody will ever play them.
im hoping they make the game better on low fps like console, it makes some of the heros kinds trash. the speed difference on all heros for 50-60fps on xbox series x vs a pc running 120-240fps is kinda insane. very noticable with black panther and wolverine
I just finished playing all heroes for 1hr or more in S0 and the are releasing S1 lol also what do you guys think about the new battle pass , is it worth it?
"you gotta be careful with her" is the way the devs designed and balanced Black Widow. Balanced as if she won three World championships in a row. Meanwhile others got balanced as if it was their first day at Kindergarten. Result: black Widow is a failed character design and wasted slot of the roster in her current state. And the "buffs" in season 1 are not gonna change that. Bottom winrate mid season. Again.
@ i think ur exaggerating a bit because she _is_ weirdly designed but the issues of her kit and everything just come down to the balancing because they addressed what id believe would be _some_ of the big issues to be, such as her sprint taking too long to recharge, and her kick being too hard to hit theres definitely still stuff they need to address tho, like being unable to sprint while reloading, and her batons just being flat out _useless_ in terms of damage AND range(i WISH there was more incentive to use them because they seem like theyd be actually interesting to use if they werent useless), but i dont think shes such a massive failure in terms game design like you say she is a balancing failure would be the accurate term i think
@keiz5052 idk how much you played her but it is clear to me that her biggest problem by far is the reload after every shot. If she is designed to not be able to headshot kill then it is a departure from the core of this archetype and questionable why she even exist. Playing her is just playing on hard mode for no reason other than liking sniping. Hela is just better.
This is actually a big nerf to Wolverine's power spike & effectiveness in his role, but a heightening of his power floor. He has less EHP (583 vs 600 on live) with his E active. This is even more pronounced with how healing works with damage reduction (due to his EHP increase going from +100% to +66% with these changes). Healing was worth 2x as much on Wolverine than other heroes, and would increase his effective health pool accordingly, which is now much less pronounced. Since Wolverine was rarely going in & using his whole health bar with CD's down, this change is much less beneficial than detrimental.
hawkeye canot oneshot 350hp now，350hp is a big buff
I still hope they will eventually add a regen mechanic to his kit, like maybe making him regen health when he's losing rage or something like that. It's just so weird for wolverine to not have some kind of health regen.
I feel like that would be broken. He alr has that extra health passive and gets so much value from kidnapping tanks. But im in plat elo lol i cant speak for the pros
It would just depend on the values for how strong the regen could be, like idk maybe every point of rage only heals like 0.75 health or even lower.
i hope they dont lescen to people like u because the character would 200% become busted dumb
Isnt hes passive health regen? just with cooldown
Lowering his passive coldown would be enough.
Spiderman got a NERF actually. You can't animation cancel his overhead flip double punch attack thing anymore. Basically he got bug fixed/nerfed on his damage.
Tbh that happened pretty rarely even if you practiced it, sucks sure, but its not terrible imo.
@@vegitohaze2081it’s consistent on decent ping atleast. It’s a lot more quicker so it’s defo a nerf
i practiced it a lot, i got it off perfectly i think probably 40% of the time in ranked, when i realized it would take A LOT of practice to be super consistent i left spidey alone dont wanna way the team down, feel bad for the players that where absolute gods with him, i got about 18 hours with him
@@Spirosbotos it depends alot on ping tbh, its way harder the more ping gets
-That Namor/Luna team-up buff might be a problem, like a big one
-Squirrel girl ult might not be the worst in the game anymore(might actually be one of the better ones now)
-Black Widow still not getting enough love
-Keeping an eye on that change to Luna ult swapping between DMG and HLT
-Seems like the devs really like Punisher, rightfully so he's a casual character that can stay strong at any rank
-Wanda buff has me very curious(sexually)
-Moon knight ult buff sounds really good
-Psylocke ult notes sound confusing so we'll have to see
-Hopefully Cap is not the worst or 2nd worst vanguard anymore
You can kill the squirrels pretty easily though
a Black Widow Buff that wouldnt break everything would be increasing weapon switch speed, and increasing her melee weapons dmg
Yeah I predict Namor will probably be hard meta now he was already really good and got target banned in high elo for OTPs
Luna ult pretty much not a significant nerf. The ult wouldn't actually work right if you kept pressing the button super fast
He's way more tanky now and the feral leap feels much easier to hit. It's perfect
Wait they fixed his Leap hitbox?
Genuinely have they fixed the feral leap and boosted caps speed or is it placebo
@w_out7631 its the same you just got use to its quirks, learn to position the enemy to your left and try looking down (seriously tried it in practice range) and you will hit more
What I didn't see the that interest notes?
What I didn't see the that interest notes?
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Squirrel girl is becoming more comic accurate each passing day. I fear no man, but that girl ... she scares me.
Your take on rocket is how I feel 100% I feel like most situations I can't alternate because it's too slow so I just end up spamming heal even though rocket has great damage potential
This is also the first time I red the Patch Notes.. HOLY Namor's spawn are too freakin broken now and he's already a good ranged DPS but now it's like you're getting 2 heroes damage from 1
Shoot the turrets
Some namor mf at dev team buff him to much 😭😭😭
I think the balancing this update is good overall W Devs
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@@Mr.Ford3350 bro they literally buffed everything calm down
@@Memetologisti think he was memeing memetologoist
@@pablotavares2502 uneducated Widow hater wrote this
@@Memetologistblank panthers mains jumping off a roof rn:
LOGANG
As someone trying to get really good with spider man I despise the devs for this namor buff 😤😴
Spidey and Panther getting wrecked harder by Namor next season, I feel for you
@@sandcastle84 Namor bans 📈, Hela bans 📉
The BP nerf also was the most unnecessary thing ever.
@crackedblack1410 I think they addressed the weird hit registration with vibranium marks not properly resetting his dash, so I think BP will be fine. His speed is what keeps him alive more so than his bonus health, anyway
@@Mr.Ford3350 while that is true, since they didn't buff his cooldowns, as missing only one dash usually kills you if ur not at full health, less extra HP means he will get wrecked even quicker. And are u sure that they've fixed that bug?
Happy that Rocket got a few buffs, he's easily the most fun support. I don't know how he got them in the first place given how he has a surprisingly high pick rate AND high win rate at higher levels, despite the consensus being that he's more on the weak side by those that don't play him
Most people who play rivals are bad at rivals or other games, just a fact, a game as popular as this is bound to have a large unintelligent vocal minority.
I agree. He was super fun during the alpha cuz you could easily put out 10k dmg as raccoon in a match. I wish they had gone for a weapon dmg buff rather than healing but atleast youll be able to shoot your gun more often if your healing orbs do more per shot.
@akaiYaMa9 He does NOT need a damage buff, poor dive characters and frontline tanks get shredded the moment he starts shooting at them. You want them to die even FASTER?? I think you probably mean an increase to his weapon's effective range, which I think would be fine. Going from 10m to 15m before falloff damage occurs would probably be fine, but his damage can easily get out of control if they start buffing his gun
@@Mr.Ford3350 no, the buff I was hoping for was an increased projectile speed. Currently his gun feels like a water hose where you're trying to hit someone beyond 10 meters you have to lead your shots several feet in front of them. In a game where you have heroes moving in every single dimension, flying, and ghost dashing nonstop through you, I don't think it's a lot to ask that my bullets go where my curser is pointing rather than hitting where my curser was 2 seconds prior.
I've find it very strange that he's carrying a mini gun that shoot bullets that are projectiles rather than hitscan but maybe there magical slow bullets 🤔
He is nowhere near Luna or Mantis levels, and his ult is arguably the second worst strategist ult. The only time you’d really want to pick Rocket over Luna or mantis (you still want one or the other, preferably Luna) is if you have punisher/Bucky. His mobility and BRB are super good though.
Bro how is the psylocke change a buff? She does the same thing just deals damage to barriers so when dr strange puts a shield she doesnt hit him like she did bit she hits the barrier. Thats 100% a nerf
Which is good, her ult was frustrating to deal with usually
If only one person with shield in her ult area, she will not just ignore him, she will break a shield and then deal damage to enemy it
@@kiku8537 exactly so how IS IT a buff
@@videogames2339 Well good for who i am a psylocke main
That BTD6 reference had me cracking up😭😭
also dont forget that he got buff which mean his ban increase is gonna be so high gonna be the next hela / hawkeye 2.0 ban
Who wolverine?I doubt it
Invisible Woman going to get banned 100%
Logan's EHP with undying animal is 600 before and 583 after, that's not a nerf to his ability at all, just an adjustment, this is basically a free +50 max hp
Can be drastic when both revive and damage reduction comes in
@@ammi5311 please search up what effective hp means first
Not sure if you’re aware but they fixed the bug on Spider-Man that allowed him do a continuous combo from the air by doing an ability cancel into a hook back in the air. It now makes him finish the animation so you can’t do the complete combo anymore.. definitely a nerf.. one of if not his best combos
They need to reduce the range on namors turrets and reduce the ult time on Luna’s ult
I’d really like Magik to have slightly faster atk speed, she just feels clunky to play right now even when you combo properly. I think smoothing out her swing some would feel a lot better
As a spidey main, i am so in agreeance with ur thoughts at the end. I get why they are so worried about buffing spiderman, cuz like widow if they buff the wrong things or by the wrong amounts, he would be BUSTED. also I guess they wanna make him really deserving of that 5 star difficulty. Like him and psylocke are the only ones with it, yet tbh he has to work SO MUCH harder than her. She feels more like a 3 or 4 star to play. But im not just agreeing cuz i main him. I actually dont want him too strong either. I just want him SLIGHTLY stronger than Season 0 and he'll be completely fine. 275 health might be a bit strong for how mobile he is, but i agree with the cooldown reset if ur target lock gets blocked and the webswing resets were a cool idea, but another risky one. Just buff his damage slightly and make his webshooters refill faster or give the option to reload. Those are the biggest things id say. Great video bro
Team ups are still too strong. Makes solo queue almost impossible if they have, and you don't. Forcing someone to play a character they either aren't good at, don't like, or never played will never be good in a team game.
feels criminal to be this early
Invisible woman has big AoE short/medium-range healing, and her ult is another luna ult in AoE healing. As I see it Black Panther is the only real AoE counter to clumped teams, and he just got considerably nerfed---I fear for the clumping/Goats meta taking over.
Talking about buffing Spider-Man after flooring Necros is too funny to me.
Glad other people are calling out Rocket's cd between primary and alt fire being the thing that needs tuning. He's so fun to play but feels a bit lacking in some ways from other strategists currently
I think a speed boost dependent on rage would be nice so he can be more aggressive and chase better
i really dont get why they dont fix cap shield , like in no way being unable to pull it midair is fair while strange wips it out when ever he wants with no 1 second cooldown delay
The venom ult you mentioned would be really inconsistent due to different HP targets for example 500hp -25% (125hp) then -25% [(base health)125hp]
{assuming target is full hp}
Lets say 500base but target is at 300 -25% (75) -25%(125hp) it would basically flip his ultimate play style instead of being really good at starting fights it would be a good fight ended I think the issue would come with the shields he gets I believe that would be too strong but idk I’m a casual plat
And hell NAH the Luna crap was bugged but they nerfed it a bit too hard
Not sure what you mean about rocket all you need to do is right click and left click his heals and his ammo are completely separate
I'm guessing they want Namor as an antiflank or defensive hero but in real use he's just going to be a flanker or super aggressive hero lol he's going to be a slasher villain.
I can't wait to see you running to flank on namor with no movement in my bronze matches at the beginning of the season
@@dijiii Lot of people play him as flanker on side angles season 0 already. Have you played the game? lol That is one of the metas and it's gonna be worse in S1. "He has no movement" He has a great escape button and three turrets.
I think squirrel girl ult is just gonna get melted now before it can kill people
You’re never playing Logan again after this patch😂
Not into Namor, he's not 🤣
Maybe this is just me, but i feel like they could've done more for wolverine. The extra health is great, but there's other things in his kit that need improvement.
His ult is cracked, and he can make tank life miserable, hes not weak, why make him OP?
glad iron fist was untouched lw sad banner didnt get any good buffs and rlly happy logan got 350 health but dont know why they lowered all his other stuff, he needs it bc he is a tank buster.
The Jeff ulti fix is a godsend. I can't even tell how many times I get eaten when floating as Storm. It made 0 sense
The namor buff is truly questionable, must be the main of one of the devs
A lot of these changes are retartet, tho I’m most happy about storm getting buffed. Hela and hawkeye got no real nerfs which is a damn shame. Hela did not need a health nerf as if that’s her issue, she needed her daggers to be further limited or at least a longer delay in her throws. Hawkeye needs a reload on his arrows, give him like 3 arrows while keep everything the same and require him to reload.
dont ignore the squirrel girl ult health decrease lol. btw I think about you saying wolverine all the time lmao
Wolverine is a slight nerf to his ehp with the buff tho, even with the increased health. But its a buff in general.
Such a nothing buff I don't think we would even be able to tell how much increased survivability this gives.
ngl at least on my server I saw maybe 2 scarlet witches from bronze to diamond, way more iron fist though
I hope mantis doesn’t get nerfed more she’s definitely my favorite healer to play as
great patch notes tbh
I just think iron fist needs a cool down buff like his cool downs are way too much for his kit
The namor buff was ridiculous 😂
So guess I'm technically low elo. Gold may as well be at least. But the only problem with iron fist is if you're a flyer and he just constantly sticks on you. with storm changes I might be able to punish him for being able to infinitely fly and stick on me, even if I fly around corners.
But that's really the only gripe. He does need something, but I don't know what, without turning him into a menace. Perhaps the devs are also trying to figure that out.
The fact you were not given early access to this patch is insulting .
rocket is the ONLY healer than cannot heal and damage at the same time
Bro the thumbnail face is killing me
Same with Peni Parker. Pushing F to get stopped by a stair sucks
If they nerfed bp like that without fixing his bugs he might be unplayable. He's already heavy countered by flyers and people that can react dodge his dash or cancel it, like for instance if bucky charges at you same time he wins the duel and ur not getting a refresh or damage, star lord can easily right click the dash so u dont get a reset and gets fucked, also fly which is obvious problem, scarlet witch who also got a buff can ez dodge with her fade out, a well timed smoke grenade of punisher, etc, etc, etc.
His bugs go beyond no hit reg on occasional marks aswell, so hope they atleast fixed the bugs bcus imo the most fun hero. And it wouldn't be so bad to give a little bit of shield when he does his ultimate now that they nerfed his base shields on dashes through marks, think that would be a decent compensation cus he dies too often at the charge up of his ult
Thor buff lets go
Did they do ANYTHING to fix his feral leap hitbox??
Some players are saying the hitbox improved
It's not even just the hitbox it's glitchy overall people teleport out of your leap after you already hit them.
7.0 because Hawkeye and Hela got love tapped especially hela..Still going to see her n every quickplay match
Honestly Thor needed more of a buff to ult dmg and dr strange needs a harder nerf
I hate to be that guy. I know Mantis is easily in the top 5 heroes right now. No debating that, but nerfing her movement speed buff is a gut punch. I’ve spent dozens of hours getting comfortable with her mechanically and it feels a bit like wasted effort. Getting changes to your main hero’s movement speed, projectile speed, projectile drop, or anything of that nature just sucks. Increase the base time to regen her seeds, reduce her self or ally damage buff %, reduce the duration of her buffs, reduce the radius of her sleep…do literally anything except this type of nerf where we have to relearn the hero’s mechanical feel.
Agreed, as a mantis main, the easiest way to nerf mantis was to reduce her damage output a little as that is where she’s kinda OP. Reducing her movement speed is low IQ move. Idk what these devs are thinking. I regret spending money on this game now. I broke my own rule of sinking 350 hrs at least before putting money into a free game but I drank the kool aid and thought the devs couldn’t do wrong. Seriously some of these changes are idiotic
300 x 2/1 = 600
350 x 5/3 = 583
While he'll have higher base health, his effective health when using his e will be slightly reduced. Factor in the constant damage and healing when he goes in, and he should be noticeably less tanky.
@@hermitmoth6118 was thinking the same , but it's a really good buff when you realise that most of the time you are not in E ability and Hawkeye can't 1 shot you at 350 hp
The Hawkeye thingy is huge. 17 less HP at max compared to 50 more HP the rest of the time seems decent. 700 effective HP in his passive is already a lot. 700 effective HP with his skill would be huge buff.
Where do you get those numbers bro? I don't understand, if 40% of 350 is 140 if we add up will be 490 and 50% of 300 is 150 if we add up us 450 in total, where you getting those numbers
@@ElLacrita He is talking about damage reduction , we get 50% damage reduction we effectively get DOUBLE the HP. How you may ask? if 50% damage was reduced then we will only take 50% of the damage and 100/50 = 2 and 2*300 (previous health) = 600hp
Now let's see for the new S1 change-
now we have 40% damage reduction so we only take 60% of the damage , 100/60 = 5/3 and (5/3)*350 (new health) = 583.33
@@ElLacrita Your mistake is in thinking that he gets bonus health; rather, his health gets harder to take. Effective health is base health x defence, meaning to kill a wolverine using his e before the patch, you need to deal 600 damage. Post patch, he'll take 3/5 (60%) damage with base 350 health, therefore 5/3 of 350 is his effective health.
Psylock ult would ignore the barrier and hit magneto, this is a nerf
them not fixing the wonky hit box on wolverine launch is mildly irritating
when streamers do patch notes videos, it’s hard for me to follow when you don’t read out each hero’s name before the changes. i’m often at work listening and can’t watch much
Im supprised they didnt toutch loki, good.
Luna is banned so often, the namor buff might not be that scary.
Namor is very good I got a 49 kill streak with him, I main him and defend the healers and annoy Ironman.
So "Logan will receive an increase to basic Combat strength" but... no damage buff happened... Hmm? 🤔
Thor ult buff was needed thank god.
bro requesting Luna and Mantis to be 250hp when he never plays as a strategist is crazy 💀💀
It's already insufferable being the main target of the enemy team, imagine with 250hp... instant death, spawn, instant death again. Nobody will ever play them.
Wolverine with undying animal effectively has 17 less hp
But more most of the time so is ok
He needs a regen like ironfist
Luna not getting her ult duration reduced is insane to me.
Also hella not getting a damage nerf
What do you mean? Hela literally got a damage nerf from 20% to 15%
@@icezik That was for teamup , I think they are talking about base damage
@@onepunchbrothe teamup damage is constantly even if u dont have the other character on ur team
@keiz5052 yes I am aware of that , I am just saying what they a were trying to say
need to reduce the healers health the ones you can 1 hit from anywhere cmon capt
Its a buff to his health it doesnt matter lol
im hoping they make the game better on low fps like console, it makes some of the heros kinds trash. the speed difference on all heros for 50-60fps on xbox series x vs a pc running 120-240fps is kinda insane. very noticable with black panther and wolverine
squirrel girl is so busted now shots are way too easy to hit and kills some dps with 2 body shots and now the ult too??
Wolverine's current state was already S tier , buff was not needed
Was the Black Panther nerf so hard necessary?
Wolverine is meta now
bucky is broken now, gotta learn him ig
They nerfed my strange ti the ground😭
Spider man is rlly trash in certain maps and rlly good in others. I think they need to increase the height limit of every map to buff him.
Can you say the name of the character youre talking about for those who are only listening and not watching 🤣 no big deal but would help me
They didn't do him any good. Hate to tell ya man. 50 HP is nothing when it comes to the 10% increased incoming damage. Not a reasonable trade off...
I just finished playing all heroes for 1hr or more in S0 and the are releasing S1 lol
also what do you guys think about the new battle pass , is it worth it?
The skins are pretty nice, so if you like the theme of the battle pass (edgy red black vampire, mostly), it's probably worth it
No battle pass is ever worth it. Though its better than other games value wise.
This released tomorrow right? Or today?
Tomorrow.
BP nerf is such an L man 😿
im a junk player too might have to play her
Iron fist not in list 😢
Wolverine Undying Animal nerf is unnecessary imo
Squirtle girtle buffs!
i keep getting dp by bp in diamond
Yea it feels like a nerf
Everything will go down hill from here.
Luna 100% ban rate next patch
"you gotta be careful with her" is the way the devs designed and balanced Black Widow. Balanced as if she won three World championships in a row. Meanwhile others got balanced as if it was their first day at Kindergarten.
Result: black Widow is a failed character design and wasted slot of the roster in her current state. And the "buffs" in season 1 are not gonna change that.
Bottom winrate mid season. Again.
Good.
i dont care what people say she’ll still be one of my mains
@keiz5052 she is my most played Hero. I like sniping. Doesnt stop me from seeing her as a failed character design. The devs shit the bed, hard.
@ i think ur exaggerating a bit because she _is_ weirdly designed but the issues of her kit and everything just come down to the balancing
because they addressed what id believe would be _some_ of the big issues to be, such as her sprint taking too long to recharge, and her kick being too hard to hit
theres definitely still stuff they need to address tho, like being unable to sprint while reloading, and her batons just being flat out _useless_ in terms of damage AND range(i WISH there was more incentive to use them because they seem like theyd be actually interesting to use if they werent useless), but i dont think shes such a massive failure in terms game design like you say she is
a balancing failure would be the accurate term i think
@keiz5052 idk how much you played her but it is clear to me that her biggest problem by far is the reload after every shot.
If she is designed to not be able to headshot kill then it is a departure from the core of this archetype and questionable why she even exist.
Playing her is just playing on hard mode for no reason other than liking sniping. Hela is just better.
This is actually a big nerf to Wolverine's power spike & effectiveness in his role, but a heightening of his power floor. He has less EHP (583 vs 600 on live) with his E active. This is even more pronounced with how healing works with damage reduction (due to his EHP increase going from +100% to +66% with these changes). Healing was worth 2x as much on Wolverine than other heroes, and would increase his effective health pool accordingly, which is now much less pronounced.
Since Wolverine was rarely going in & using his whole health bar with CD's down, this change is much less beneficial than detrimental.
He does not need a buff this is a joke
🔥🔥LOGANG🔥🔥
Great player horrible reading comprehension skills lol.
I’m sorry but what’s the point of reducing the season bonus damage if the season ends tomorrow lol
Season 0 is just season 0. Season 1 keeps all that. It starts now.
Bro... cmon... think for like 2 seconds.
oh god this buff doesnt sounds good like AT ALL , its gonna be a ultra perma ban in high elo for the boy wolverine
Wolverine will be banned 100% 24/7 after this just like how hela hawkeye are always getting banned for the whole season 0 in Asia server.
Only four ban slots hela, hawkeye, luna, and doctor strange will still be a more important pick. With team captian specificaly yes he will be banned.
What was your reaction to new Wolverine skin?