What you think is selling out is in fact really caring for blacks. ANC MK and EFF and ATM are in fact anti black, this is clearly seen in the state of blacks in society today
@@thulasnkosi9641 ningakhohlwa ukuthi i IFP ayinaso isikhathi salobukhomanisi benu obubhedayo obusibulalela izwe. Inkatha ifuna i Peace and Economic Prosperity of the entire nation not this nonsense of racial hatred
It seems like IFP is leading uneducated, or non-English speakers, who have no idea on what their leaders are saying in English, or otherwise, knowing the IFP of the early 90s, these leaders wouldn't only be dismissed but killed as well, burn their houses. But the current constituency is like living in a separate world from where its leaders are taking decisions. Maybe they fully understand that it was this group of White who was supplying them with weapons even back then!
@@sizwemeyer6076 Racial hatred??, less we say about IFP, the better. Friends of Pik Botha, friends of de klerk, murderes of black people. As long as the IFP leadership benefits, nothing else
@@MasixoleSizani-js3wk the ANC is actually very wise. They knew that we need capital to run programs, and the capital favors DA. Going with EFF and MK would scare investors. It is no longer like when the ANC was a majority, because investors understood their policies.
@@musajohannessithole8970 IFP got land in KZN, Ingonyaama Trust. So they have no time for nonsense. And IFP does not want things that will chase away companies bcos they think for workers who may loose jobs.
@sizwemeyer6076 It's surprising how this world is full of the ignorant fools. The Land under Inghonyama Trust belongs to all of us. It's the State Land. Inghonyama Trust is a State Institution. It's the reason we demand ammendment of Sec 25 of the Constitution, so that we bring an an end the Colonisl-Apartheid ownership pattern of Land.
IFP is more worried about position,why IFP still exist what it stand for really. I don't believe in Cyril but now is showing DA flames then our own lFP crying like a baby shame on them people have suffered enough for land.
Its true - there is NO need to challenge this Act . No one will win in court or Constitutional Court on this Act. I agree this is NOT what (Act) we wanted - expropriation without compensation.
Pewu! i-IFP is trying to do what they did when they betrayed the movement in the 1970s and 1980s. Mkhuleko is only expressing the manufactured outrage emanating from Cape Town.
The IFP is sellout they're concerned about is KZN because if they speak out in supporting the bill it will be the end of the IFP government in KZN. Even the issue of ithala bank they not that much vocal. They could even threaten to Shout down the country in protecting Ithala Bank 🏦 but they silent
IFP is just a baby girl of DA.😂this bill is good and Ramaphosa have made a very important bill.and by so doing,ANC is going to retain its lost seats,because of it.IFP and DA must just leave this country....
Obviously there would not have been any agreement if he took it to clearing house. He had to take decision. The DA overestimated the power they will have in the GNU.
The President ignored the legal proses that he had to follow. He should discuss the issues before signing. The anc does no longer has the majority and act as if they still have.
Thanks to Mr Hlengwa for educating Mr Holomisa on the correct processes on the signing of the new bill…these old people have a tendency of agreeing on everything without proper scrutiny, here we find ourselves where we are today
IFP is clearly supporting the DA & FF+ in the same way they were working with the National Party to the detriment of the Majority. How does Hlongwe expect a Bill that was already Passed by Parliament before the existence of GNU, to be referred back to GNU before the President signs it? And why should the President first gets approval from a Minister before signing a Bill that was overwhelming Passed in Parliament?? IFP Votes should Decline further!!!
@@shombelamakhaye2693 I'm very happy that IFP showed true colors and I am happy if not proud that apartheid government took land from us because we were dom. I'm happy that we have black who think that been poor is a right thing and what makes me sad is that the devil is using them.
IFP is clearly supporting the DA & FF+ in the same way they were working with the National Party to the detriment of the Majority. How does Hlongwe expect a Bill that was already Passed by Parliament before the existence of GNU, to be referred back to GNU before the President signs it? And why should the President first gets approval from a Minister before signing a Bill that was overwhelming Passed in Parliament?? IFP Votes should Decline further!!!
The issue here is the anc still thinks they are in power. They simply cannot make decisions or sign laws without consulting with the gnu partners Period 😮😮
I actually thought the signing of this Expropriation Bill was discussed and agreed by all so-called "GNU" Political Parties. Haak Vreistad 🚶♂️ 🚶♀️ 💃🕺🤸
Constitutional Court isn't the answer to this bill, we are the ones who ordered the expropriation without compensation during the public hearings not otherwise, holomisa must stop making mockery of the the citizens
Can't do deals with these people. They don't have the same ethics & value system that most of the world has. This is reminiscent of Dingane going back in his word after his deal with Piet Retief. That's how they were then & still are 2day.
Let us stop talking lia about IFP eve since it can't be sellout political party. those who less thinker look like IFP as oppressor. IFP is ethical party they is not taken decision about anger if you notice IFP alway stick on they policy, manifesto what did during compagn and guid by SA constitution un like other political party existing at our country.
The problem in ths country is that many political parties dont what they want,you cant oppose an Act that is aimed to facilitates the redistribution of land and at the same time fighting for the return of the land,they must just leave those who understand the issues of land to deal with them and focus on other issues
@ Do you want economic growth in RSA? If you do you will know that this bill will hinder investment into this country!! Our President recently in DAVOS asked for Big Business to invest in our country. No business with good sense will ever invest here with that bill!!
He has an audacity to say the owners emdala. They left because they never owned it at the first place. That land have black original owners. These GNU parties really blinded by imali ka Ramaphosa. Ramaphosa will sell that land to his associates. ANC has played with us for so long now.
Is it not time for black parties and organizations to put aside differences work together to build this country like how we all want and aspire for us and those to come
This land issue wont work unless you table section 25 ,cos this one sign by ur friend is a willing buyer willing seller which exist long ago u can blame the IFP but the guy is signing useless things from NHI ,Bela Bill and Land expropriation its almost nonsense if u read them properly.
IFP is clearly supporting the DA & FF+ in the same way they were working with the National Party to the detriment of the Majority. How does Hlongwe expect a Bill that was already Passed by Parliament before the existence of GNU, to be referred back to GNU before the President signs it? And why should the President first gets approval from a Minister before signing a Bill that was overwhelming Passed in Parliament?? IFP Votes should Decline further!!!
But he's wrong this time. He wants the President to send the bill back to parliament however that prerogative sits only with the President.He applies his mind and takes a decision. (What I've mentioned is the Parliamentary process as per constitution. Once the president makes the decision it doesn't mean that everyone agrees with the bill but the constitution says the majority must agree...now the question is did the majority of MP's agree, yes or no...the answer is Yes they agreed therefore The General is correct that the only thing that these guys can do is to go to the court.Otherwise it's just a waste of time(there's no illegality here...well untill the court pronounces so)
The more i listen to umfo ka Hlengwa the more I'm convinced that he is speaking on behalf of the funders of his party. 😔
Sponsors are running the show, there's absolutely nothing substantive that he's saying here
@@mxolisizuma2511 IFP does not subscribe to racial hatred, bear that in your mind
😂Oppenheimer prostitutes
Usengxakini umfana 😂😂😂
Thankyou Mr Holomisa for pointing out the fact this EWC Bill is a product of the previous parliament.
How on earth can the GNU review a Bill that has gone through public participation. Goodness me these political parties must stop ukusidina please
So called leaders. Useless
IFP have really sold out 😢😢😢 it's a shame for us black nations to sell each other to highest bidders
What you think is selling out is in fact really caring for blacks. ANC MK and EFF and ATM are in fact anti black, this is clearly seen in the state of blacks in society today
IFP does not want SA to be like Zimbabwe
Sazelo kudaaaaaaala badayisa ngabantu abamnyama abaqali
Unfortunately, people from Nongoma le kwantuthu see nothing wrong with this useless party.
@@thulasnkosi9641 ningakhohlwa ukuthi i IFP ayinaso isikhathi salobukhomanisi benu obubhedayo obusibulalela izwe. Inkatha ifuna i Peace and Economic Prosperity of the entire nation not this nonsense of racial hatred
So if you vote IFP you are actually voting for land thieves. 😂😂😂
Anc are biggest land thieves which they will sell that land to China and Arabs😂😂😂
What is the difference between IFP and DA guys? Besides the skin color of the leaders.
Difference is the Master and puppet(you know who is the Master right...)
😂😂😂😂😂
no difference including mkp
@@andilemzaza9175you are so petty 😂😂😂😂😂but mostly stupid 😂
@@andilemzaza9175 don't put mk or eff in the stupid thing
Truth is, DA and IFP thought they had captured Ramsphosa by forming GNU, this bill had underhone through all parliamentary process.
Respect for general Holomisa. Thanks for speaking sense.
The Lt. Gen. (Ret.) is politically and ideologically sober. IFP on the other hand reminds me of them before 1994 (if you know, you know).
General is 100% spot on! I fully concur!
Good Holomisa
Good insight Tata Bantu👌🏾
Feel sorry for IFP followers. Really this party is hopeless, izinja zabelungu
Viva GNU
Me too. I am disappointed.
It seems like IFP is leading uneducated, or non-English speakers, who have no idea on what their leaders are saying in English, or otherwise, knowing the IFP of the early 90s, these leaders wouldn't only be dismissed but killed as well, burn their houses. But the current constituency is like living in a separate world from where its leaders are taking decisions. Maybe they fully understand that it was this group of White who was supplying them with weapons even back then!
@@bongopet2128 IFP have no time for racial hatred
@@sizwemeyer6076 Racial hatred??, less we say about IFP, the better. Friends of Pik Botha, friends of de klerk, murderes of black people. As long as the IFP leadership benefits, nothing else
IFP is clearly voicing out its founders perspective,what a shame. The 20 million is talking now🤞
The General has spoken
Nothing new here fellas IFP is just IFP, and they will remain IFP.
The ANC should have went into government with parties they share same policy ideologies and leave out those they don't to be opposition parties.
They were invited and they played games (mood swings)
@@MasixoleSizani-js3wk the ANC is actually very wise. They knew that we need capital to run programs, and the capital favors DA. Going with EFF and MK would scare investors. It is no longer like when the ANC was a majority, because investors understood their policies.
Do you refers to the parties that they don't know what they want?
Funders want job done otherwise they will lose investors
So Voting for IFP is same as Votig for DA...they agree on everything even celebrating the statue of our former oppressors)
You oppressed yourself dummy stop crying 🥴your pathetic excuses are boring
The IFP still wants the land issue to be delayed furthere.
Lol
@@musajohannessithole8970 IFP got land in KZN, Ingonyaama Trust. So they have no time for nonsense. And IFP does not want things that will chase away companies bcos they think for workers who may loose jobs.
@sizwemeyer6076 It's surprising how this world is full of the ignorant fools. The Land under Inghonyama Trust belongs to all of us. It's the State Land. Inghonyama Trust is a State Institution. It's the reason we demand ammendment of Sec 25 of the Constitution, so that we bring an an end the Colonisl-Apartheid ownership pattern of Land.
@@sizwemeyer6076 loss of jobs is due to the inability of ANC taking stance to put people's first.
Problem most of us Black we need land to build shacks and rooms to rent.so after all such rubbing where are we going to work
IFP is more worried about position,why IFP still exist what it stand for really.
I don't believe in Cyril but now is showing DA flames then our own lFP crying like a baby shame on them people have suffered enough for land.
General cooking 😤🙌🏽
Yho what happened to IFP.? What do they want to discuss now? They have been making noise about land, now land is here, they say no. Mxm ai.
The General is point 😂😂 IFP seems to be on the side of DA and FF+ but we understand last years money to campaign came from stellenbosch.
Its true - there is NO need to challenge this Act .
No one will win in court or Constitutional Court on this Act.
I agree this is NOT what (Act) we wanted - expropriation without compensation.
The IFP is gone, sold to the highest bidder 😢😢😢
Dankie General 👏🏾😂
Captured IFP with Mkhuleko Hlengwa the GNU puppet
IFP has always being on the sides of white people from day one, nothing is surprising to me.
Pewu! i-IFP is trying to do what they did when they betrayed the movement in the 1970s and 1980s. Mkhuleko is only expressing the manufactured outrage emanating from Cape Town.
The IFP is sellout they're concerned about is KZN because if they speak out in supporting the bill it will be the end of the IFP government in KZN. Even the issue of ithala bank they not that much vocal. They could even threaten to Shout down the country in protecting Ithala Bank 🏦 but they silent
Remember, IFP is not interested in racism nonsense. They only want peace and economic prosperity for South Africans
Now they want to micro manage the President😊
IFP is not a part representing blacks finish and klaar.
IFP is finished
😂😂😂😂😂
I can't agree more!👍🏾
Thumbs up for IFP
😂😂😂😂👋
Mxm IFP are useless idiots...
IFP is just a baby girl of DA.😂this bill is good and Ramaphosa have made a very important bill.and by so doing,ANC is going to retain its lost seats,because of it.IFP and DA must just leave this country....
IFP=DA=AFRIFORUM
"Status quo people are not happy" says IFP😮.
Uyabhuda lomfana
Obviously there would not have been any agreement if he took it to clearing house. He had to take decision. The DA overestimated the power they will have in the GNU.
The President ignored the legal proses that he had to follow. He should discuss the issues before signing. The anc does no longer has the majority and act as if they still have.
All this political parties are ignorance the have understand this is coalition government
Which legislative process are talking about. Surely, it's not SAn.
This bill went through all the stages including the public participation
@@musajohannessithole8970 I don't think he understands that this bill went to Parliament to vote bathanda ukuphawula without facts
How do you begin to discus views of the public?
You must remember that Holomisa is a product of the a bantustustan homeland
General❤
Hlengwa must focus on sexual allegations against him that He gives goverment jobs for sexual gratification and stop this nonsense He is spewing here.
Yoh IFP, who r unrepresenting😢
Thanks to Mr Hlengwa for educating Mr Holomisa on the correct processes on the signing of the new bill…these old people have a tendency of agreeing on everything without proper scrutiny, here we find ourselves where we are today
IFP is clearly supporting the DA & FF+ in the same way they were working with the National Party to the detriment of the Majority.
How does Hlongwe expect a Bill that was already Passed by Parliament before the existence of GNU, to be referred back to GNU before the President signs it?
And why should the President first gets approval from a Minister before signing a Bill that was overwhelming Passed in Parliament??
IFP Votes should Decline further!!!
@@shombelamakhaye2693 I'm very happy that IFP showed true colors and I am happy if not proud that apartheid government took land from us because we were dom. I'm happy that we have black who think that been poor is a right thing and what makes me sad is that the devil is using them.
Puppet ifp😂😂😂
The General 😊
IFP is clearly supporting the DA & FF+ in the same way they were working with the National Party to the detriment of the Majority.
How does Hlongwe expect a Bill that was already Passed by Parliament before the existence of GNU, to be referred back to GNU before the President signs it?
And why should the President first gets approval from a Minister before signing a Bill that was overwhelming Passed in Parliament??
IFP Votes should Decline further!!!
That is exactly why they're losing votes like there's no tomorrow in KZN
Majority of IFP voters do not understand this discussion. They'll still vote for IFP. Its a tribal party
IFP is a waste of votes 🗳, if the GNU was ANC, EFF and MKP they will still be taking this bill to court.
Nkuleko uzintloni that's all I can say
Exactly, ANC is not in charge anymore
Says who clown 😂😂😂anc sign bills that DA opposed as opposition 😂😂😂so DA is us😢and anc getting all credit
It not ANC, it was passed by the parliament
@@silaskhalishwayo DA voted Ramaphosa into power dumbass. He's not a free agent to do as he wishes. Grow up
Yey u Holomisa losewakhuluma kanje😮
The UDM is happy to be in government in their lives
The IFP is a sellout crowd
Should be a case when taking first step to a right direction
The issue here is the anc still thinks they are in power. They simply cannot make decisions or sign laws without consulting with the gnu partners
Period 😮😮
The Bill was in president’s desk since 2022… the GNU can’t dictate what was already debate in the parliament
You are totally lost. Try and read more
The law was passed from the previous government y would the Anc need to consult gnu
The General is clarifying this IFP clown.
Was this law not passed by the National assembly in parliament?
MKHULEKO well spoken Sir 👏👏👏
😂😂😂Clowns
Nicely said IFP spokesperson
Funders are watching what they paid for is done so IFP is there on behalf of their funders
I actually thought the signing of this Expropriation Bill was discussed and agreed by all so-called "GNU" Political Parties.
Haak Vreistad 🚶♂️ 🚶♀️ 💃🕺🤸
Constitutional Court isn't the answer to this bill, we are the ones who ordered the expropriation without compensation during the public hearings not otherwise, holomisa must stop making mockery of the the citizens
Personal politics
Can't do deals with these people.
They don't have the same ethics & value system that most of the world has.
This is reminiscent of Dingane going back in his word after his deal with Piet Retief.
That's how they were then & still are 2day.
The IFP has always collaborated with oppressors.
bcos IFP is not a racist party.
@sizwemeyer6076 Would you care to elaborate please Sizwe ngiyacela.
Hayi wena ngempela, Oh God plz help jha ne South African politics, ag shame@@sizwemeyer6076
Let us stop talking lia about IFP eve since it can't be sellout political party. those who less thinker look like IFP as oppressor. IFP is ethical party they is not taken decision about anger if you notice IFP alway stick on they policy, manifesto what did during compagn and guid by SA constitution un like other political party existing at our country.
@mphiwenimpungose6295 Mpungose, ngicela ukhulume uMageba mfethu khona sizozwana.
The problem in ths country is that many political parties dont what they want,you cant oppose an Act that is aimed to facilitates the redistribution of land and at the same time fighting for the return of the land,they must just leave those who understand the issues of land to deal with them and focus on other issues
Constitutional court or any other courts for that matter favours markets so ANC won't make it there and they should know that by now.
South Africa put themselves in the spotlight opposing the USA!! This bill will put them in the spotlight in the wrong way!!
South Africa is not a province of USA
What are we benefiting from the west , all they do is fetch our God given minerals and enrich themselves while we inherit poverty
In a wrong way to who?
@ You know in afrikaans there is a saying "Geen pille vir domguit nie"
@ Do you want economic growth in RSA? If you do you will know that this bill will hinder investment into this country!! Our President recently in DAVOS asked for Big Business to invest in our country. No business with good sense will ever invest here with that bill!!
He has an audacity to say the owners emdala. They left because they never owned it at the first place. That land have black original owners. These GNU parties really blinded by imali ka Ramaphosa. Ramaphosa will sell that land to his associates. ANC has played with us for so long now.
He can rest in peace, Mangosuthu is well represented by his pikinini
Confirm that we are live, as if he is going to say something important 😂
One will realise how politically Strategic ramadollar was on this "GNU" 😂🤣🤞🙏
that IFP stooge
The DA must leave the GNU
Let them leave...thanx for going,land must return to its rightful owners (blacks)which was stolen by settlers.
@diatilenthoba8262 you're IQ my man do you no you're DAD i dont think so
@@diatilenthoba8262 WC land does not belong to blacks thanks
Who did you buy the land from?
The land is for the people that is Government @@SharonKeune-zo1zi
Is it not time for black parties and organizations to put aside differences work together to build this country like how we all want and aspire for us and those to come
Khoisan land people
No🙄
@@alexiaklaase8016in Capetown n Makwaland consists of Venda, Bapedi n Tsonga ppl. Zulus fought in 1879 Sandlwana
@@alexiaklaase8016scared to fight😂😂😂
@@alexiaklaase8016thry couldn't stand up against thr bullies😂😂😂
This act is 6th parliament product but Rama's pen disappeared until May 24 elections. All GNU members will be history in 2029
So according to comments is either u represent blacks or whites not south africans
UDM will never come back 2029
enkosi general
Land is not a right and spreading it out and sharing it, doesn't create wealth and employment.
Yet the settlers r crying
@@kamohelomxhosana7562 Yes we are settlers and developers and builders. What are you?
Land is a right, wealth is the secondary issue. If land is not a right why don't relinquish it?
@@gillbersth6853 I think you are confused. Study the subject today, that's your homework.
@@gillbersth6853 Here's a clue, there are 27 rights in the constitution.
It started in 1994
THE DUTCH INVESTED BIG TIME ON IFP THE LEGIT ZIMPIMPI EVEN HAVE LAND
Wonderful hlengwa
Nisaqhubu klova😂
Mdluli this is joke & waste citizens funds without amanding Section 25😂😂
This land issue wont work unless you table section 25 ,cos this one sign by ur friend is a willing buyer willing seller which exist long ago u can blame the IFP but the guy is signing useless things from NHI ,Bela Bill and Land expropriation its almost nonsense if u read them properly.
Viva GNU
IFP won this one.
In Whites thou but in Blacks that's their setback.
😂😂😂Oklova
Mr Hlengwa spoke as a mature level headed spokesperson who clearly understands the seemingly intricate processes of parliament. Thanks!
IFP is clearly supporting the DA & FF+ in the same way they were working with the National Party to the detriment of the Majority.
How does Hlongwe expect a Bill that was already Passed by Parliament before the existence of GNU, to be referred back to GNU before the President signs it?
And why should the President first gets approval from a Minister before signing a Bill that was overwhelming Passed in Parliament??
IFP Votes should Decline further!!!
But he's wrong this time. He wants the President to send the bill back to parliament however that prerogative sits only with the President.He applies his mind and takes a decision. (What I've mentioned is the Parliamentary process as per constitution. Once the president makes the decision it doesn't mean that everyone agrees with the bill but the constitution says the majority must agree...now the question is did the majority of MP's agree, yes or no...the answer is Yes they agreed therefore The General is correct that the only thing that these guys can do is to go to the court.Otherwise it's just a waste of time(there's no illegality here...well untill the court pronounces so)
Puppet ifp😂😂
Holomisa is way out of depth. He has no cooking clue
Ifp right 😂😂😂😂
You confused as 😮
Holomisa is a disgrace, his singing for his supper
Awusho klova mhlamp😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎