I hate the fact that I live in SA where the majority of SA voter are politically uninformed and ignorant, it's because of these people SA is in such a mess🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😑
Public interest is so vague, who decides what is within the publics interest. JZ homestead, has a pool, and KZN lacks public pools, can the government expropriate that, for public interest?
Give away state owned land. Do not touch private property! It will cause a massive exodus of investors leading to even worse unemployment and poverty. This has been shown time and time again.
That scare tactic is lame. There are people who are in possession of stolen land including land that they say wasn't occupied at the time🙄🙄🙄 that they occupied it. That land must be returned, without compensation because it was taken without compensating the owners. We can't allow ourselves to be swayed by, investors who look out for number 1,at the expense of the people.
Western countries will flee as a scare tactics then China and Russia will re- invest on their absence. Come on Africans look at Burkina Faso...Niger and Mali they have done so which means we can in South Africa 🇿🇦
Why are people so angry about this bill that has gone through Paliarnment. These arguments should have been done in paliarnment. The president is just to rubber stamp it. This is not Rama's bill.
Was the president not supposed to hold the meeting with the gnu tell them that he is going to sign just to show working together or is he trying to gain the points that.he signed and that comes from the anc
PAC and RISE Mzansi the only ones offering a sober and mature understanding of this very important issue. The grandstanding of the DA is tiring. The President must execute his presidential executive powers and move us forward. The GNU must negotiate and consult on upcoming bills and acts. We can’t unravel parliamentary processes to boost Hellen’s ego.
@@lindasitshange6465but you support the white language I am sure your kids attend white schools I am sure you use everything written white on it like the phone you use now😂
Lets just split SA into two parts. North and south Azania. Lets move all the people that vote for private property to the south and everyone that votes the land should belong to the state and be divided and redistributed to people to the north. Lets give both countries their own respective government and lets watch it play out over the next 50 years to see who's idea was the best.
South Africa is just movie Ramaphosa is busy selling the land to arabs in venda the is resort equivalent to Soweto . people are denied to access thier cemetery and farms. Another pravite resort in cape town with pravite airport
Debate, discussion & mutual communication between ANC, DA, & other coalition members should be adopted in all matters. The ANC simply signing a new bill or act, without first explaining how it would be actioned, is senseless. Politicians should practice more their communication skills, thereby also informing the public who the bill/act benefit, and which/what kind of 'land' is affected. PLEASE !!!! MORE COMMUNICATION IS REQUIRED
In Umlazi ,KZN, our houses are on land that belonged to the now defunct KwaZulu-Natal government . This landed was turned over to the Ingonyama Trust and we as residents were never given documents to that effect .All we know is that we do not own the land our houses ( some worth millions of rands) are standing on. On the 'deed of grant' it is stated that the land can be expropriation for any projects like mining for minerals etc. It says nothing about compensation.
No, it is total rubbish if one can say this ANC wants to take this country away from the people, yet they say it is in the best interest of the people.
@PumlaNzima If you give a fool land, he will use it foolishly. If you give a wise man land he will use it wisely. The question is, are you wise or foolish???
Couple of objections. Till when does the expropriation go back to? Since the colonial settlers came? (By their arrival it doesn't necessarily mean they stole any land, there was purchases made) or pre colonial? Which means the Khoi and Khoisan was here first, so will they get the land? Also, to whom does the expropriation go to? There can be many descendants of past owners, do they split it fifty fifty? Will land be expropriated in proportion to the ownership at a time? For example if a tribal leader owned 90% of an area will his/her descendes get that and the remaining 10% to the tribe leaders people? Side note: segmenting the private land ownership by race and making it 'equal' across races is not fairness. Its simply dividing land. What if 100 years from now the stats show 90% is owned by black people. Will they expropriate from them and distribute? What about people who worked hard their entire life and paid mortages, can their land just be taken without fair compensation of property value?
This was the right time for the act and the transition to take place under the GNU watch Natives that claimed land the GNU must assist them for a fair transfer of land.
They act like they got 50%+1 on their own. If we’re getting these destructive laws anyway, let it be done by die ANC/EFF/MK and have a strong opposition to them.
The DA lady has this annoying tendency of talking over other people,the host would do better next time by rebuking such people because that one does not agree with the view point of others doesn't give one's right to do what she has been consistently doing from the beginning of the program.
You DON'T need land !! You need A JOB !! Keep voting ANC, EFF, MK and you, your children, your grandchildren will NEVER have a job, a home, a car, an education, a life. Why don't you see that ? You have a mental block !
Then pay for it like most of the people in this country. We buy our homes and land. We don't just take it. Why should people NOT be compensated when they have paid large amounts of money for their properties?
Don't debate about land in south Africa it's khoisan Boschman hottentot nation land stolen from us as descendents of the first nation off south Africa anc gavement DA regime they don't have land in south Africa did they come with land into our country called south Africa they stolen our land it's a crime
Land belongs to those who buy it. Like any other thing you buy. If you feel someone has stolen land from you 250 years ago. Go to the police station and open a case. Otherwise sit down and 🤫 shhhhh.
Even calling land thieves ‘OWNER OF THE LAND’ Is another sellout tendency that needs to be stopped.. Imagine you,having stolen my cellphone and when I catch you and upon expropriating my property from you as a thief I start off by calling you ‘THE OWNER’
white people tend to pretend they don't know how they became the possessors of the land and then DA can't even bring white people to promote their views
Idiot. These land owner's lawfully bought the land with hard earned money and then transformed them with blood, sweat and tears. Is your phone maybe a stolen phone? I see alot of iPhones and very expensive android phones everywhere.
From expropriation to unapproved because White's owners have acres of land not used till mountains enough of owners they build MANSSIIONS and left the other land for better value and fenced the land however that land can be expropriation of land use ( this issue of urgument will lead into chaos
Given that there is large chunks of land owned by companies of a few white people. It means this land needs to be shared amongst the crowded black people that will be in need of land. The willing buyer willing seller process has not worked. What has made the little bit of progress is restoration/restitution process for people that were moved under apartheid. The downside to the latter was greed some families opting for cash instead of land.
The process is going right direction. Look at Orania they are creating their cwn country in Sa with their own currency. They are hijacking our iAfrican land. Be aware of that. So this is going right direction.
Do you know the payed for there land and they can do with it as they whant to do with it.There is so Many country's in others country they are allowed .
In Zimbabwe You took your land Back ❓ Why NOT Going Back?? You Decide to Hanging Around S.Africa?? Zimbabwe is NOW Empty ^ What s Problem Being in SA When You Have Freedom Country ❓❓❓❓❓
@putsundlovu5883 My mentalite not wrong with at Only the Idea Zimbabwaanse Mess around in SA when Zimbabwe is Empty MAKING Disgusting problems intolerant
@@markriordan9010 You are right Mark, it ended on paper or theoretically only but in reality the horrible show goes on and you also know it. Economically and socioculturally, apartheid is still very much alive. Iseyinde indlela.
@@Tsebomjiks9789All that's happened is that it has been proven that an almost exclusively Black majority is totally incapable of looking after it's own people. STOP making excuses for facts which are as clear as daylight. Whites have had almost zero involvement or power at all in this country, for more than 30 years. You become a victim if you constantly look for blame to justify your circumstances.
Don't talk nonsense. There are laws in this country that blatantly discriminate against white people. And be with the help of those laws you still lose against them . Eish, weak wena.
From research land owners neglected thier land so that land can be expropriation to people with passion skill for farming building shelters for catle and also a home for the first time owners ' what is seen a huge fencing around like a barrier protecting the stolen land
@RikusVanBaalen With understanding what was seen is few that is taking care of someone else's plot busy with farming I am speaking about few people not all have the same knowledge and experience of caring just a vacant plot with desire to own a plot for community work and also small scale farming " I do understand your point at the same time much care will be taken these are people with passion for animals and farming please explain your reasons
@Rose-n8k7n Yes I understand but still ten let them sell don't take there property and not pay them it is probably in that family for hundreds of years
ONCE YOU INCLUDE THE COLOURED,KHOI SAN AND BUSHMAN ,,THE ORIGNAL CUSTODIANS ARE TOTALLY EXCLUDEDE IN YOUR DEBATAEMMNOR ON YOUR PANEL,,YOUR BIAS,,RACIST
I hate the fact that I live in SA where the majority of SA voter are politically uninformed and ignorant, it's because of these people SA is in such a mess🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😑
Leave
Yoh well written......🤝
Oprions are available
@@PumlaNzima I guess ur n EFF prostie🤭
Go to a place where you feel people are well-informed about politics. Leave Mzansi!!
Public interest is so vague, who decides what is within the publics interest. JZ homestead, has a pool, and KZN lacks public pools, can the government expropriate that, for public interest?
Should try an application and see what happens
Public interest is a Marxist term used to describe political opponents. It’s well documented.
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1Kak praat nie...
Why did you never had a problem with basically the same Apartheids Act of 1975 ????
DomDoos !!!
Don't play innocent WC mayor is a criminal
Are they enriching themsrlves with drags
We need to start to expropriate Albert lithuli house and convert it into public library.
Cheap flats
Supported comrade, especially after what they have done to the City Library
Exactly
@@MzamoAdoons-d6nUshiye izwe nomhlaba wakho ezim😂😂ula uzosimpintsha hlala phansi kusakhuluma umndeni
Give away state owned land. Do not touch private property! It will cause a massive exodus of investors leading to even worse unemployment and poverty. This has been shown time and time again.
That scare tactic is lame.
There are people who are in possession of stolen land including land that they say wasn't occupied at the time🙄🙄🙄 that they occupied it.
That land must be returned, without compensation because it was taken without compensating the owners.
We can't allow ourselves to be swayed by, investors who look out for number 1,at the expense of the people.
This is the type of fear mongering that was talked about
@@jo-d-lo38That simplistic reasoning is exactly the problem.
You must be a white person klis😂😂😂 so, you mean they must continue to own those private stolen properties?😂😂
Western countries will flee as a scare tactics then China and Russia will re- invest on their absence. Come on Africans look at Burkina Faso...Niger and Mali they have done so which means we can in South Africa 🇿🇦
No-one in the ANC can explain the Act😂😂😂
Only Ramaposha can cause he just got back from WEF.
Kwere😂😂uthini nihambanini kolungisa eZim nino Ndoyisile😂😂😂
Why are people so angry about this bill that has gone through Paliarnment. These arguments should have been done in paliarnment. The president is just to rubber stamp it. This is not Rama's bill.
The Western cape should break away if they follow through.
Not happening in a gazillion years, keep dreaming though
Was the president not supposed to hold the meeting with the gnu tell them that he is going to sign just to show working together or is he trying to gain the points that.he signed and that comes from the anc
The truth of the matter is that there was never a gnu from the start and we all know that... That thing it's called anc and da coalition😂😂😂
You should be grateful to the AnC government of cowards for compensating the thieves who stole or took the land forcefully from the rightful owners.
PAC and RISE Mzansi the only ones offering a sober and mature understanding of this very important issue. The grandstanding of the DA is tiring. The President must execute his presidential executive powers and move us forward. The GNU must negotiate and consult on upcoming bills and acts. We can’t unravel parliamentary processes to boost Hellen’s ego.
Finally someone who understands in the comment section 💯
The lady from the DA speaks extremely well.
Because she supports a white party?
@@lindasitshange6465but you support the white language I am sure your kids attend white schools I am sure you use everything written white on it like the phone you use now😂
@@lindasitshange6465 That's a racist statement. The DA is for all races.
@@lindasitshange6465Don't be a numbskull....there are more Blacks in the DA than Whites...do some simple Googling for Heaven's sake !
@lindasitshange6465 you're sleeping intellectually, she/He is just admiring the way she articulates herself.
Lets just split SA into two parts. North and south Azania. Lets move all the people that vote for private property to the south and everyone that votes the land should belong to the state and be divided and redistributed to people to the north. Lets give both countries their own respective government and lets watch it play out over the next 50 years to see who's idea was the best.
Go and separate Holeland
This is not Israel where you special in dividing country Gaza
Go home
Settlers mindset
😂😂 some parts of this country have more mineral resources than others. You'll figure out the rest
The DA lady is just at work she does know what she is saying.
Twerking for her supper like all the other uself minions for her white masters
I think every south African must listen to this clip. So well articulated. Thank you to The lawyer for such knowledgable explanation.
Mxm
South Africa is just movie Ramaphosa is busy selling the land to arabs in venda the is resort equivalent to Soweto . people are denied to access thier cemetery and farms. Another pravite resort in cape town with pravite airport
Don't worry yourself about that it will be taken care of, just give it a little time. Guys on the ground are working on it.
This is a double edge sword, why can`t they just amend section 25 and all is done.
This land is not for anyone to take. It doesn't belong to us. Go sit and think. It was lent not gave. HE can take it away at any time.
Jan van rebieck knew
1652 gang took the land
Settlers arrived as visitors but end up here
Debate, discussion & mutual communication between ANC, DA, & other coalition members should be adopted in all matters. The ANC simply signing a new bill or act, without first explaining how it would be actioned, is senseless. Politicians should practice more their communication skills, thereby also informing the public who the bill/act benefit, and which/what kind of 'land' is affected. PLEASE !!!! MORE COMMUNICATION IS REQUIRED
Land expropriation is scary. This discussion was very helpful 🎉.
Why were you scared 😂😂
Just imagine a black person scared of getting back his or her land 😂😂😂anihlanyi nina na?
Y always DA bring blacks to debate their dispute......
😂😂😂You know why moes
If they brought the white person you would still have something to say
Exactly
Because the DA has senior black people, contrary to the ANC that has no whites,
DA is a multi racial party
In Umlazi ,KZN, our houses are on land that belonged to the now defunct KwaZulu-Natal government . This landed was turned over to the Ingonyama Trust and we as residents were never given documents to that effect .All we know is that we do not own the land our houses ( some worth millions of rands) are standing on. On the 'deed of grant' it is stated that the land can be expropriation for any projects like mining for minerals etc. It says nothing about compensation.
Can we hear the position of the Umkhonto We Sizwe Party on this matter, or are they only taking part in mundane and frivolous debates 🤷🏽
EFF is very articulate and well researched
Yes As Always
Really ? I am of the completely opposite view.
Exactly
Your hatred to the EFF is nit healthy
Don't trust eff will give the land to zim
The rightful owners are the Indigenous people who are the Khoi, San, Namas and Griekwas. No blacks have right to claim any land in South Africa.
😂😂😂😂😂 go n open a case
Khoi, San and namas are white neh. And not blacks.
@@justicet4AllThey may be black but they're not related to you. Therefore they might have a claim but you don't
Dont be stupid@@justicet4All
We are indigenous except Europeans ,Indians and Malays
Defnitely no
Scrap the bill
It was signed into law now it need to be cleared coz it's vague
And there investors fly the coup....hallo Zimbabwe
This is a different struggle to Zim just focus on SA affairs mot failures of zim
No, it is total rubbish if one can say this ANC wants to take this country away from the people, yet they say it is in the best interest of the people.
I assume your ancestors are in India.😂😂😂🫢🫵
Born and brought up in SA.
🧐
@@shaunnaidoo326 we have no Naidoo surname in Africa clown
Eff all the way
Rich people continue to land grab ,however poor people undermined as kand is just not used allow people to land for thier livelihood
Land doesn't bring anyone wealth, the way you think does. THIS is where change needs to come.
then why white people stole the land and protect it?
Then why are the owners of land afraid to let go of it?
Jan van riebeeck saw the value the same reason the settlers decided to take the land, resources etc.
@PumlaNzima
If you give a fool land, he will use it foolishly.
If you give a wise man land he will use it wisely.
The question is, are you wise or foolish???
@@kfutuahnkain86The so-called owners 😅😂.
There's big misunderstanding here
BLACKS ONLY PANEL,,,,QUESTION ,,WHO ARE REALLY RACIST???,,EXCLUSIVE DIRECTOR
The racists are those that are against land reform
Are you for real, the DA sent a black woman to represent you, you a racist by any chance?
White people running the show at the back...like DA
You wont take anything unless you want war
And that war you wish for will be the end of you
There's a debate on whether it's better for citizens to lose their property rights?
as long there is no without compensation,it's a joke!
So you want chaos
Compensating who
Land Expropriation Hypothesis Act😴
Couple of objections. Till when does the expropriation go back to? Since the colonial settlers came? (By their arrival it doesn't necessarily mean they stole any land, there was purchases made) or pre colonial? Which means the Khoi and Khoisan was here first, so will they get the land?
Also, to whom does the expropriation go to? There can be many descendants of past owners, do they split it fifty fifty? Will land be expropriated in proportion to the ownership at a time? For example if a tribal leader owned 90% of an area will his/her descendes get that and the remaining 10% to the tribe leaders people?
Side note: segmenting the private land ownership by race and making it 'equal' across races is not fairness. Its simply dividing land. What if 100 years from now the stats show 90% is owned by black people. Will they expropriate from them and distribute?
What about people who worked hard their entire life and paid mortages, can their land just be taken without fair compensation of property value?
I fully support this bill!
Why?
@johngrebnebeil4311 The land must return to the rightful owners
The DA lady mumbling & disrupting every speaker is being so immature.
They tough her that in white DA
Where is mkp why not invited?
Expropriation, even WC, has always been in the constitution, why didn't they challenge it all along?
Expropriate the land owned by EFF and ANC…without compensation
Expropriate land that was stollen
@ stolen by who and when?
Why is the official opposition not in studio?
Cause if they in studio then the nation will know who holds the land.
This was the right time for the act and the transition to take place under the GNU watch Natives that claimed land the GNU must assist them for a fair transfer of land.
No ANC? So the cowards force the act into place without respecting the GNU cant show up on a TV show. Black life is indeed cheap.
They act like they got 50%+1 on their own. If we’re getting these destructive laws anyway, let it be done by die ANC/EFF/MK and have a strong opposition to them.
So sad we legally trying to get our land back that was illegally and forcefully ripped from us,alluta continua,not yet uhuru...
Proof it
The DA lady has this annoying tendency of talking over other people,the host would do better next time by rebuking such people because that one does not agree with the view point of others doesn't give one's right to do what she has been consistently doing from the beginning of the program.
Seems that it is time for the VSA to take over.
Puttin is holding the key for this, Brics has come to reality.
DA need to come and tell us face to face at squater camps that we don't need land
DA must deported you back to Eastern Cape or where you came from.
And what will you do with the land if you get it??
You DON'T need land !! You need A JOB !! Keep voting ANC, EFF, MK and you, your children, your grandchildren will NEVER have a job, a home, a car, an education, a life. Why don't you see that ? You have a mental block !
Then pay for it like most of the people in this country. We buy our homes and land. We don't just take it. Why should people NOT be compensated when they have paid large amounts of money for their properties?
@@markwhite5926 yes we will pay for it after those who stole stole it have returned it
Obviously they wana keep the land while we suffer😢
Why must land registration become racist again like in the Apartheid days?
There must go forward stopt talking about apartheid that is behind the struggle
What you do to the left,you must do to the right
Patriotic Alliance is absent here?
It can go complicatedly
property means anything not just land tsek scrap it
Your land was stolen boss get it back
people have no idea how much land our govt owns that just lies there and nothing happens.
Between white south Africans and the government who controls the most land?
@@stevekgaogelo4108 Not the Government.
Don't debate about land in south Africa it's khoisan Boschman hottentot nation land stolen from us as descendents of the first nation off south Africa anc gavement DA regime they don't have land in south Africa did they come with land into our country called south Africa they stolen our land it's a crime
Not a single indigenous South African on this panel.
Not a single fake indigenous person on the panel
Umuncu.
Thats how it's done. That's why the land will never be recovered.
I want the people of PA to listen to what these black guys says. Land belong to blacks as rightful owners.
Nonsense. Please explain to us how the blacks obtained ownership of that land?
Your statement is driven by cultural norms and is a reflection of your upbringing and surroundings mentally 🤦♂️
Land belongs to those who buy it. Like any other thing you buy. If you feel someone has stolen land from you 250 years ago. Go to the police station and open a case. Otherwise sit down and 🤫 shhhhh.
@@pleaseandthankyou4161 I agree
@@jvdm9317 go and ask the Dutch in Holeland how they optained the land
Land=riches and everyone wants to be rich🤔
I would really like to see any proof of land that was taken from these people looking for hand outs
your people came here with boats 🚢 not with the land
@@siyabulelasono5357 typical Bantu. Yours came from up north without any land either.
@siyabulelasono5357 correct but my people where stronger and more educated so very cleverly we aquired the land ....
Tenure is at the basis of civilised propriety
This guy of EFF talk nonsense about this topic. EFF suppose to remove this Lubabalo is against this expropriation of land.
Even calling land thieves ‘OWNER OF THE LAND’ Is another sellout tendency that needs to be stopped..
Imagine you,having stolen my cellphone and when I catch you and upon expropriating my property from you as a thief I start off by calling you ‘THE OWNER’
white people tend to pretend they don't know how they became the possessors of the land and then DA can't even bring white people to promote their views
Idiot. These land owner's lawfully bought the land with hard earned money and then transformed them with blood, sweat and tears. Is your phone maybe a stolen phone? I see alot of iPhones and very expensive android phones everywhere.
R.S.A is done for
No
WHEN ITS TIME TO DEBATE DA SEND SOMEONE WHO IS BLACK
And that calms the Black masses down.
@@Keith-g7mexcatly
This is called "national democratic revolution" the voice of the people.
And you will be in an even worse situation. No employment, no growth and no investment. Call it whatever you want.
Wt makes me happy is dt de coalition of da n anc is falling apart, we told many of u that there is no gnu but coalition for 2 parties.
From expropriation to unapproved because White's owners have acres of land not used till mountains enough of owners they build MANSSIIONS and left the other land for better value and fenced the land however that land can be expropriation of land use ( this issue of urgument will lead into chaos
HANDS OF ORANIA
Anc is just seeking for
Just another BEE lobsided Wara Wara!!
Having EFF won't make your life better
Consultation is important because this is the 7th administration. They failed to sign this 30yrs ago
About time
Given that there is large chunks of land owned by companies of a few white people. It means this land needs to be shared amongst the crowded black people that will be in need of land.
The willing buyer willing seller process has not worked. What has made the little bit of progress is restoration/restitution process for people that were moved under apartheid. The downside to the latter was greed some families opting for cash instead of land.
The willing buyer willing seller did not work because of corruption, nothing else.
McPherson must go
The process is going right direction. Look at Orania they are creating their cwn country in Sa with their own currency. They are hijacking our iAfrican land. Be aware of that. So this is going right direction.
Did you do your research on Orania? That land is bought it's a private property
@@lyma3880 from who?
Do you know the payed for there land and they can do with it as they whant to do with it.There is so Many country's in others country they are allowed .
Typical product of the SA education system 💪👏👏👏🤡
@@seanprinsen7265 jip
In Zimbabwe, we took our land. We are not going back
In Zimbabwe You took your land Back ❓ Why NOT Going Back?? You Decide to Hanging Around S.Africa?? Zimbabwe is NOW Empty ^ What s Problem Being in SA When You Have Freedom Country ❓❓❓❓❓
@lebraa9233 i am in Zimbabwe wena.
You think everyone who talks Zimbabwe is in SA. Your mentality is regressive.
@putsundlovu5883 My mentalite not wrong with at Only the Idea Zimbabwaanse Mess around in SA when Zimbabwe is Empty MAKING Disgusting problems intolerant
@@putsundlovu5883
😂😂😂😂😂
Welcome another ZIMBABWE
Those stats are wrong
Come and take Land from Orania - Lets see how far you going to get 😂😂
Orania land was bought
Becareful what you wish for.
You think black people are scared of you clowns...it's only anc that is scared of you
Karabo wonderful presentation
The medical aid funds are next . Watch out discovery med 😂😂
you might speak your beautiful English girl the land will come back to the rightful owners 😅
Political maturity is needed in all political parties. They politisize to confuse the people
Lizobuya lelizwe bethanda bengathandi woza 2026 & 2029 uzogwaza umkhonto wesizwe viva M.K.P 💚🖤🇿🇦✊🏻
Mkp ye sex
Zuma didn't take the land wen he was president 😅😅😅 Y now
@@jerrymonyepaouyahleka sphukuphuku
Uma selibuyile bese kwenzakalani? Nakho la indaba ikhona khona.
@lebohangmohapi8605 🤔bese kwenzakalani umbuzowakho awunamqonda angeke ngiwupendole
KZN is the only province that is really serious in fighting apartheid, it does not come as a surprise that MKP has a chance of restoring our land.
Did you just emerge from under your rock...? "Fighting apartheid"? Did nobody tell you it ended more than 30 years ago...?😮😢😢
@@markriordan9010 You are right Mark, it ended on paper or theoretically only but in reality the horrible show goes on and you also know it. Economically and socioculturally, apartheid is still very much alive. Iseyinde indlela.
@@Tsebomjiks9789All that's happened is that it has been proven that an almost exclusively Black majority is totally incapable of looking after it's own people. STOP making excuses for facts which are as clear as daylight. Whites have had almost zero involvement or power at all in this country, for more than 30 years. You become a victim if you constantly look for blame to justify your circumstances.
Don't talk nonsense. There are laws in this country that blatantly discriminate against white people. And be with the help of those laws you still lose against them . Eish, weak wena.
@Tsebomjiks9789 The problem is that you think development is automatic.
No no no
From research land owners neglected thier land so that land can be expropriation to people with passion skill for farming building shelters for catle and also a home for the first time owners ' what is seen a huge fencing around like a barrier protecting the stolen land
The huge fences is actually to keep people out that steal livestock and cables etc... because certain people cannot live without stealing
Uh no, it is there land they do what they want to do with their land.By giving the land to unexpected peapol that will damage the land.
@RikusVanBaalen With understanding what was seen is few that is taking care of someone else's plot busy with farming I am speaking about few people not all have the same knowledge and experience of caring just a vacant plot with desire to own a plot for community work and also small scale farming " I do understand your point at the same time much care will be taken these are people with passion for animals and farming please explain your reasons
@Rose-n8k7n Yes I understand but still ten let them sell don't take there property and not pay them it is probably in that family for hundreds of years
All land must be returned since the 1400s . This constitution is lol😅
Don't negotiate with thieves..
Pac eff masimba
Same
Yes it is the right direction.
No it is not.
ONCE YOU INCLUDE THE COLOURED,KHOI SAN AND BUSHMAN ,,THE ORIGNAL CUSTODIANS ARE TOTALLY EXCLUDEDE IN YOUR DEBATAEMMNOR ON YOUR PANEL,,YOUR BIAS,,RACIST
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