Amish Tripathi Interview: Historian Amish Tripathi Opens Up About Cholas & Adipurush Controversy
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- Historian Amish Tripathi spoke with India Today's Rahul Kanwal over the Cholas & Adipurush controversy. Watch.
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God bless you Amish !! As a Tamilian I have always harbored the grievance that Indian govt and North Indians were ignorant of the south and gave it stepmotherly treatment. I am glad to see folks like you addressing that
Cholas are my ancestors and conquered south east Asia and I am Hindu. Greetings from Singaporean Tamilian
Sorry , the word hindu is defined by British for India only. Singapore is nothing to do with the word hindu.
@@adhavamuruganjawahar2999 gravity didn't exist before the word gravity was coined. That's what ur argument is.
@@adhavamuruganjawahar2999 they all are sanatan dharma
@@adhavamuruganjawahar2999 What did you breathe before the word oxygen was found?
@@selvarajuulakanthan9651 do you eat carbon?
Very correct.
Cholas ruled not only India's most parts and also had overseas countries
Marvelous movie 🔥🔥 eagerly waiting for PS2 🥰🔥🔥🥳👍💪
This is unfortunate. I am from Chennai and have been proud of Chola kings who were great Shiva bhakta. They built magnificent temples. To say that the Cholas were not Hindus is absolutely terrible. Who is this person and what right has he to insult the great Hindu king ? A shaivite or vaishnavite , all are Hindus. This man must be publicly told how wrong he is. We should not tolerate this.
Yes. Raja Raja Cholan was a saivite king only. As per stone inscription found in udaiyar palayam siva temple the elder brother of Raja Raja Cholan , Adita karikalan was assassinated by four brahmin brothers.
@@adhavamuruganjawahar2999 and his sister was devout Vaishnavite. And they claimed to be Suryavanshi.. And suryavanshi line is to be the line of Ram. So please take your what'sapp knowledge elsewhere.
@@adhavamuruganjawahar2999 😂😂😂 I am also Shiva devotee. According to you and your Kamal Hassan am I hindu or not 😂😂
@@Deepak-cv1ln if you are brahmin like kamal Hassan definitely you are hindu. If you are a non brahmin then you are a saivite.
@@adhavamuruganjawahar2999 so according to you is Narendra Modi a hindu leader or a saivits he is not Brahmin and he is also Shiva devotee
Amish views reflect what good education can bring to one's life
He is a fake historian, and he is a fictional novelist. Have you ever read one of his books? Absolute crap.
In Christian institutions
Mr Bala Sundaresan, I am a 7 7 years old Tamil Saivaite , but not a Sanathana Hindu. Please accept the truth that Raja Raja Chola was neither an Indian nor a Hindu because both terms did not exist at that time and was totally unknown to the great Emperor or to anyone of that time. I was born in Tiruvarur, just in the middle of his Chola kingdom and some 20 kilometres from Nagapattinam where he took care of that great Buddhist Vihara, the Soodamani Vihara just as his forefathers did. The Cholas were tolerant of other forms of worship and always protected and gave Nivanthams ( charitable contributions) to them ,unlike the intolerant , scheming Brahminic - Sanathanis. So, learn from our great ancestors and live the fruitful life of a SAIVAITE.
Absolutely Correct
Tamilians talk about regional identity. ..local beliefs ..but follow foreign man christ ..hypocrisy at its peak 😂
Tamil kings conquered upto Himalayas. Check for chola pass in Himalayas. Rajaraja cholan built Gangai konda cholapuram in remembrance of several places conquered near river Ganga in north. There were also “Kalingathu barani” written on cholas to praise chola kings conquered kalinga mentioned in sangam literature puranaanooru. Even cheras, and pandyas conquered northern part of india. “Imaya varambhan” title given to chera king for winning war up to Himalayas and “Arya padai kadandha pandiyan” is title given to pandiya king for defeating Northern kings and proceeding North. But all these history was hidden because Indian history was written in Delhi. They confined Tamils to Tamil Nadu. However, indus valley civilization has DNA evidence of Tamil tribes “Irular” in Rakhigiri. Brauhi language spoken in present day Pakistan has most tamil words. Even English has borrowed several Tamil words. Navy is borrowed from pure Tamil word “Naavai” means ship. Tamils had advanced ship building technology which they used to carry even the elephant army. Kattamaran - is the pure Tamil word “kattu maram” which means wood tied together. Tamils were advanced in science and technology. “Iron” was found first in selam Tamil Nadu. The word came from “Irumbu” Tamil word. Ir is the symbol. These words has no existence in any other indian language. There were 1000s of tamil words used in world languages. Molecular “moolakooru” in tamil. Atom was used 2000years ago by a famous women tamil poet Avvaiyaar. No other civilization in the world has so many women poets as in Tamil sangam period. We have enough archeological evidences to prove that Tamil is the first and foremost language and civilization. But it is sad that these information were hidden from the rest of world until today.
Amazing sir, I’m one of those proved Tamilian
In this country we had many clans and all the clans had their own deity which they worshipped. We are diverse and each community have their own gods
It comes under sanatan dharm which also known as Hinduism.. All different deities are part of someone which are same for many
Nope all comes under sanatan dharma...your so called diversity is due to concept of non dualism ... Vedanta ,karma ,dharma ....is common to all...so don't even try to seprate us ...
@@tingle2323 right
Dude diversity is another name of Hinduism...Hinduism is threat to one god fanatism of Xianity and islam...Hinduism celebrate diversity while Xianity and Islam is against it, even in North we have local deity called Kuldevta and Gramdevta
@@tingle2323 sanatana is foolish. Do you believe anyone give birth from head. No any birth is through vagina only.
If cholas are not hindu then how mk Stalin can be Christian jesus is not indian or Dravidian so how Tamil Nadu people follow jesus becoz jesus is an arab not Dravidian hypocrisy
But Bhakths are from cow dung 😂😂😂
They are following hinduchutiyanas
MK Stalin is not a Christian…………. His father and former cm of TN Dr.K.Karunanidhi was inspired by communist ideologies and named his son Stalin after Joseph Stalin(former premier of USSR). In fact MK Stalin, his wife, his son n daughter all are Hindus by the way. MK Stalin sees himself as an atheist.
@@ullneverknowmyname support Christian ✝️ 😤
DMK is fake Stalin is doing everything against Hindus but his wife and daughter in law and everyone pray to Hindu gods and if you believe this family they are worse womanisers and goons I’m from TN
Chola king was a great navigators.
Chola had excellent Navy
Please note that Ponniyin selvan is not entirely history based..some characters are fictional based on the Ponniyin Selvan novel
Gangaikondan doesn’t mean that he carried water from Ganges… it means he conquered till Ganges to bring water… kindly do not distort the meaning
Fact is water also was carried from Ganga to his capital...
@@vickyv4707 yes right.
@@vickyv4707 Yes, genius. Thanks for stating the obvious that everybody knows but the word 'gangaikondan' doesn't mean that as per the tamil language at that time. It clearly means 'the one who conquered ganges' implying the conquest of land around river ganges.
@@saykatze everybody doesn't know Tamil u moron .... And. Everybody doesn't know water was brought down from Ganga.... Definitely everybody doesn't know Cholas. So get back to work.... Don't waste time where it isn't needed.
What Vetrimaaran said was correct. Raja Raja Cholas were devout Shivites. The term Hindu was not there at that time. The letter 'ha' itself is not there in Tamil.
But as per present definition many religions were bundled into Hindu. Tamil's are shivites and vaishnavites. They are very much Hindus as per present definition.
We have our own ways of worship and practices. Please don't impose northener's practices on us. Let us unite as Indians. If the term Hindu religion unites us let us continue. If the term divides us let us throw the term to dustbin.
By your logic Peter was not a Christian but Lazarine bcz the word Christianity was coined 200 years later the crucifixion of Jesus that too by the Romans. Christians never called themselves Christians n their religion Christianity.
"Judaism" is not found in any Bible or Old Testament and is given by Christians to Jews/Yahoods post-Elightenment. Should we then say Judaism did not exist before 14th century then and only after Enlightenment the religion Judaism came into existence?
The fact is that Shaivites,Vaishnavites,Shajta,Gapatya,Murugan, Folk are all part of Hinduism since time immemorial bcz since ancient times Hindu is referred to those residents of Bhārata who followed common religion,ritual,tradition,culture,customs and rites. They did not call Buddhists and Jains- "Hindus". For Persians to Arabs to all invaders and foreigners, Hindu referred to both geographical location and followers of Sanātan Dharma, all others were viewed as separate identity apart from Hinduism. Hinduism is nothing but a new term for the oldest continuing and evolving religion called Sanātan Dharma which comprises all denominations be it Shaiva, or Vaishnavas etc. Our Purānas are testimony to this.
Norther practice? I am a Tamil and there is nothing called Norther practice. The concept of Hindu way of life is same all over the world. Please ask the missionary funded crukes and Islamic funded cruckes to stop their impossion on Tamils.
Tamils are Hindus period that is it. The desert cult and abrahamic religion are the problem creators. Read EELAM historty then u will understand how the tamil speaking muslims in Eelam never participate in the war and they classifed themself as muslims and never claimed themself as Tamils.
All religions which orginated in india has the same concept. The problem is whith 2 regressive mind set religion which came from abroad.
You have lost it🤣🤣🤣
So were only the Tamil devout Shaivites? And North Indians didn't worship Shiva?
Sanskritization of poojas was an imposition. Replacement of Pandaarams and odhuvaars with telugu brahmins in our temples by Nayakkars and perpetuation of caste system were all the outcome of Northerners (including Nayakkars) rule and continual thrust through Sankaracharya mutts.
Even in text books, hinduism is not defined as a religion. during the time of cholas, there wasn't really an identity called hindu, nobody was hindu let alone cholas, so vetrimaran is absolutely right! chola was not a hindu at that time! But when other religions can into india, we started classifying people who are natives of this land and people who worship gods like shiva or vishnu as hindus, since raja raja chola built various temples to worships these gods, today we call him as the greatest and noblest hindu of his time!
I totally agree you..
I'm worried as many trying to change our history with little knowledge
Chola Copper Plates provide a detailed lineage that tracks their genealogy.
Starting with Thirumaal (Vishnu), Brahma and eventually Surya.
Cholas considered themselves Suryavanshis.
Interestingly, the devout Shiva bhakts Cholas consider Lord Vishnu, as the first king of their dynasty!Then we arrive at Raghu-vamsa.
Raghu is listed as the 36th king, promptly followed by Dasharath and Lord Rama.
Cholas consider themselves to belong to the lineage of Shri Ram!Chola's family deity (kula deivam) was Nisumbasoodhani, a form of Durga/Kaali which indicates they may also have some lineage from Bengal.
Vijayalaya Chola constructed a temple for the deity immediately after reinstating the Chola rule!Murugan Temple, Saluvankuppam has inscriptions from Parantaka and Rajaraja periods.
Sembiyan Madhevi gave grants for building the Nallur Kamdasamy Temple, in Sri Lanka.
Chola imagery is filled with images of Ganesha.
Kulotunga gave the highest grants to Srirangam Ranganathar Temple.Chola copper plates and inscriptions had both languages- Sanskrit and Tamil.
Rajaraja gave equal wages of Rs.130,732 (in 2022 value) to singers of Vedic and Tamil hymns.
Chola kings did yagnas and followed the scriptures
Conclusion:
TO SUMMARISE:
Lord Vishnu is Cholas first king: Vaishnavam
Cholas areDescendents of Surya: Shouram
Cholas Family Deity is Nisumbasoodhani: Shaktham
Cholas Built Skanda temples: Kaumaram
Cholas Sculpted Ganesha:
Ganapatyam
Cholas are Devout Shiva Worshippers: Shaivam
So, Cholas are Hindus.
Sources:
-Chozhar Varalaaru
-Raja Raja Chozhan
-Studies in Ancient Tamil Law
-Chozhar Kaala Seppedugal
Special Thanks To:
-Thamizh Labs
-Bangadipathi Debarghya Bhowmick Ray..............
Gangai kolda cholan means not the one who brought ganga it means the one who won the ganga (ganga valley)
Rightly pointed 🤝🏾
No he brought water as well . So that means , he valued something pristine about Ganges. That’s enough to say , we all are same
@@shrisuryarathinam97 i know man he brought the water from gangai to cholapuram because that is the symbol of his victory 🔥🔥🔥 his ankther name is kadaram kondam(kadaram means present maleshya) so it mean he took kadaram from his place to cholapuram?
@@shrisuryarathinam97 🤣🤣🤣 where ever our kings go they will take some thing for the victory this is the practice in early tamil kings. They will take water , sand , flowers, some time opposite person head too😂😂. If we belive ganga devi means not we are same. We are tamils our identity is tamil. If you want to know who is tamils mean go and read about ashoka inscription and adihumba inscription 🤦🤦 trying to creat glory by yourself man dont took another peoples pride. That is very cheep attitude
@@Yathrigan143 well said
Thalaivaaa Amish 🥰😍😉
5:48 this is the right answer. Vetrimarans view point would be to differentiate Tamil culture. But literature and mythologies that are and studied are connected and cannot be differentiated. The only thing that he is right is that the term 'hindu' wasn't used in that time period and they are hindu .the term hindu is used for to unify followers of sanata dharm. He just want the movie to be pride of Tamil and not Indian cinema
This is where problem arises as long we portray tamil culture not part of Indian culture we will fail to move as a nation
Veterinarian's view point is for the particular Ideology as his leader promoting conversion to Christianity, nothing to do with Tamil culture but anyway Tamil culture is somewhat different from brahminical north culture.
@youtube Load the only problem with his statement was that there is concept of Hindu religion in that period which is partially right . the terms hindu wasn't used but the concept Hinduism we follow was also found in that period. His statement is ignorent
The same Raja Raja chased 4000 Brahmins out of the Chola Kingdom for murdering his elder brother Aditha Karikalan. Raja Raja seized all their properties. The killers were
1. Ravidasan
2. Soman
3. Panchavan Brahmathirajan
4. Theveraalan
( Evidence Udayarkudi inscriptions of Raja Raja).
Simple think to understand is the people born in bharat are follower of sanatan dharm due to invaders sanatan dharm followers are called as hindus now the conclusion is we all are sanatan dharm followers not religion
No one in south knows what’s in veda or manusmirthi. Above all it’s all for North Indians. We don’t believe in god, who divides his own people and degrades. If you people want to be part of tat slavery system it’s ur choice. First North Indians, treat ur fellow Dalits as equal and let him marry pandits daughters. Treat them equally .
@@govindasamykamalakannan1294 Dalits system still exists in North India read the survey results and the atrocity rate in our country and moreover compare the temple ancient architecture of India south india has more traditional values even today that's people migrating to south coming to Veda and manusmriti or culture or tradition atleast watch the movies books serials art contribution it's south india which is still following keep ur gyan with u
@@govindasamykamalakannan1294 one kore jihadi found with the fake hindu name
Great point. The Christian allegory is remarkable. A child exists whether the parents decide to name him/her early or late.
We know National media has a problem with Logic Dialogues. Christianity was first and it got decided in to other categories. Whereas Hinduism is different. It observed other ways of life under one name for various reasons.
So far in the archaeological evidence there is no evidence of God's in the Tamil cultures.
But they are well advanced in education and trade and culture
Good or bad .. atleast now north india media is talking about Tamil kings...
I find this controversy as yet another attempt among a series of such futile attempts to belittle a great religion which has existed from the vedic period. If Vedas Upanishads existed way before Raja Raja Chola period and Shiva and Vishnu were Hindu gods I don't see what the controversy is all about
Absolutely well said
well said But its all about minority appeasement
Don't try to swallow regional heritage.
@@adhavamuruganjawahar2999 regional heritage doesn't mean speaking nonsense.
@@ritikshaw5868 are you idiot ? You have no rights to insult us. Mind it. With out region No Nation . Don't forget srilanka .
Talk to someone who familiar with Tamil history they can even more explain . Hinduism is called by Britishers
So according to to u Tamils didn't have their own land before the name "Tamil nadu" was not given. So according to u Tamils had no homeland and are immigrants??😂🤣😂
Raavan was a very knowledge person... It was his ego that killed him. He wasn't a terrorist 😅 Ram told Laxman to gain knowledge from Raavan while he was dieing... That's true Hinduism
But ram asking laxman to ask Ravana for knowledge is not from valmiki's Ramayana.
Most people do mistake of mixing bits and pieces from all Ramayanas. Each Ramayana adds more good or bad characters, incidents.
If someone says Ravana is good then ask him which Ravana? Valmiki's Ravana, tulasidas Ravana, kambar Ravana etc. Same goes for all characters.
@@karthikkumar2972 not to metion that ram seetha and lakshman also appear in Jataka tales 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@karthikkumar2972 Pl appreciate the earlier comment by Krunal Desai in the light of Hinduism's largeness of perspective and freedom from judgement. Ravan was an asuric monster but his knowledge and expansiveness of governance over his people is quite amazing.
@@pankaja7974 Kam se kam Ram self explosion tales me nahi aate 😂
People thinking Raavan was bad as he kidnapped Sita.. but why no one is talking about what happened to Raavan's sister.. Based on Valmiki Ramayan, Laxman not just cut Surpanaka's nose, but also her breast.. Eventhough Raavan wanted to take revenge and Kidnapped Sita, he didn't touch her at all and that shows his quality.. And ofcourse to make him monster we should cover his good qualities and Plotted new backstory, that Raavan has a curse and if he touches any women without their will then his head will be blown into pieces..
Maniratnam definitely did a great job of showing Raavan's point of view in Raavan movie..
Christianity - European culture.
Islam - Arabic culture.
Hinduism - indian culture.
There is nothing called hinduism in indian union ...only northies follow that fake stories
Not really
Christianity is isrealy (Jerusalem) culture first people to became Christian were Syrians/assyrians , roman empire adopted Christian 300 year after death of Jesus
Original European culture of Europe is Vedic Indianzed culture Greek worshipped hindu god Dyaus Pitar (which they called zues Peter) , Irish claim themselves ancestors to tribe of goddess danu ( rigvedic danu godess) ,east European like Croatian call Their ancestors to harxatya people (haraxvat /Saraswat people) , slavic Serbs called their ancestors to srbenda (rigvedic srbinda people)
@@RojaJaneman look even The name India is not belong to us ... these British changed everything...
Likewise the present controversy too..
Everything thing is due to them
Tamils know how to practice saivam vainavam 😎 please don't teach us Sir,, we made bakthi movement , later it passed to North India,, understand tamils first , then comment 😎
This is but a narrow and parochial view of Bhakti movement as there are great saints like Sant Thukaram, Tulsidas and others in the North and East who left their footprints in the Bhakti movement.
We made Hinduism from which vaishnavites and shavites are based. We made Buddhism, Jainism Sikhism also. They are very popular in east Asia 🤣now be happy
Since you mention chatrapati Sivaji, strangely he is well known in TN not only because Marathas ruled Thanjavur but also because the legendary actor Sivaji Ganesan got his name for playing the chatrapati !
We do not want to be called as Hindu, because the North Indian definition coming with that term is divisive and does not fit to the definitions of Saivam and Vainavam.
சோழர்கள் இந்துக்களே . தமிழர்களுக்கு முதல் அடையாளம் தமிழ், இந்தியன், பிறகு தான் மாதம் .
It's good at least, the cholas have become a centre of debate nationwide. Where as cholas were listed under " RULERS OF SOUTHERN INDIA", by the so called Indian historians. Now, that the Indians come to know that cholas had invaded many South East Asian countries, and the only Kingdom which had land mass away from Indian sub-continent under their rule.
This is ridiculous and malicious controversy. Essentially a political spear thrown by the Dravidians who have a clear agenda here. Hinduism is a geographical-cultural term as such referred post-fact by historians and ordinary folks as loosely amounting to a religion, which it is not, in the technical sense that Abrahamic religions are. There has been a pointed attempt by the Left and committed "Secularists" to define each sect of the Sanatanic fold as a separate religion in order to break the inner soul and connectedness of this vast grouping . Essentially to splinter the Hindu groupings into many pieces and make it politically vulnerable. We are all technically Sanatanis which is an umbrella characterisation that encompasses our unique approach to the temporal-spiritual way of life. Adi Shankara toured the entire of India and conducted dialectical treatises which means that there was a solid ground of philosophical oneness that held us together and around which we built differing methodologies of worship / metaphysical enquiry. Vaishnavites called Shankara crypto Budhist but happily co-exist with his advaita proponents. The Jains follow their methodology but a Tamilian Jain will not deny he is a Jain , just to assert that he is a Tamilian first. Religion has never been in that sense separate from operative societal dynamic for us, which btw is a western ailment. To call Chola King a Hindu is not to deny that he was a South Indian or Shaivite.There are Shaivites across the country and indeed outside of India who can without any prescribed political agenda, be termed Hindus. Ditto for the Vaisnavites or Arya Samajis or the Brahmos or even the Theosophites. Hindu is not a restrictive exclusive term. The colonial caprice and conspiracy to break India via a so called " dravidian wedge" has resurfaced via this current day political program. There are thriving sects of Vaisnavites, Shaivites, Kartik bhaktas, Devi bhaktas, Khali bhaktas and bhaktas of various other deities and traditions of worship including Tantric ones , in Tamil Nadu. The temples in Palani and Tiruchendur attract many laks of devotees during single occasions. These temples have millennial " hindu" traditions appropriate to each Deity. This is not an ideological straitjacket like the Abrahamic religions which are defined by anti-idolatry and restrictive writ of a single authority. This malicious attack on Hinduism must be called out. Please trace the ancestry of this new found project backed by western academia and woke warriors on rekindling in many ways the caste cauldron which , we as proud Indians have substantially resolved and left behind.
I don't know where these people's who are blabaring (commenting)in the name of Forward or Athiest thinker in Current T.N before 2015 they were wiping some things.
When many people's asked director Pa.Ranjith regarding his comment on Raja Raja to show the proof he said that he read it in some book it mentioned which is a fictional book not a archeological facts based........
@@narendraraja14 You are spot on. This is a superficial, badly prepared political ammo by the familiar groupings. The strategy is to shock people with controversial remarks , create megaphone noises around it and then hope that some of sticks.
I’m a Tamilian and i completely agree with you
@@shrisuryarathinam97 Thanks Sir. I request you to put your views too. That will add further depth.
Yes sir those Dravidian party telling that kalki wrote this fiction to hide the assassination of adita karikal Cholan by brahmins.
From Haryana, Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat till Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Burma, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Till Madagascar, till 20,000 Islands of Indian Ocean it was Million USA u can't Compare it with The Great Chola Empire
Rahul, nobody is saying that call them South Indian Dynasty...they are saying that call them as Tamil Kings/ Tamil Dynasty
What we call Hinduism is nothing different than Sanatana Dharma and Vedic Philosophy of eternity. Some idiots may not want to accept the truth.
Chola was not Hindu ,even Lord Siva is not Hindu. Hindu delivered by British. It is history.
Now people like Kamal Hasssan N Movie Directors will tell us What Is History and What is Hindu...
I am born and bought in South Indian family ...a Proud Hindu and Indian.
@JRATHISH what does this comment imply?
@JRATHISH bro u know mughals destroyed a lot of temples and hindus in india and no Hindus from tamil nadu helped them.. does that mean both Hindus r different wat a stupid logic u have. And by the way I'm from tamil nadu
Who said Raavana is a brahim is there any proof?
Tamils are true worshippers of God Shiva, Vishnu, Sakthi and Karthikeya. Tamil have their own way of worshipping. It should not be mingled with vedas or sanathan, because Tamil followed another path of worships. It cannot be generally called as Hindu.
Cholas performed and followed vedic tradition. It has been already recorded in their copper plate. Thank god that they recorded it in their copper plate...otherwise people like u are ready to distort our Tamil pride
Sanathan is also the religion of Tamil Shaivites, Vaishnavites and Shaktas bcz the latter are just denominations. Protestans n Catholics have different way of wirshipping the same God but that does not make them separate religions. Nor does differences make Shias n Sunnis different religions.
Shiva Puran n Vishnu Puran are documentary records of how Shaivism and Vaishnavism are rather two different denomination of the same tree of Sanathan Dharma bcz Sanathan Dharma is what our ancestors called their religion and culture to in scriptures after scriptures from Mahabharata to Upanishads to Āgamās to Dharmashastras to several Samhitās to holy Hindu Tamil scriptures. Do Tamil now say that Shiva Puran and Āgamā are not part of Shaivism? I mean what nonsense is this? Dravidian logics do not even stand a chance before academic and indological arguments. There's a reason why even after the colonialism got ended, Indologists and eminent scholars from Wendy Doniger to Sheldon Pollock insist that Hinduism is the religion which comprise denominations like Śaiva, Vaiśnava, Shākta etc. bcz they have common linkage of abstract common chord of Upaniśidic concept aspects of Param Brahma.
So, Tamil Hindus must stop pandering the racist, divisive and outdated theory of Tamil vs. Hinduism. This is stupid and obnoxious.
Now a days in TN Hindu people are ridiculed and DMK is the main reason
Culture changes every 30 km in India. Tamilnadu is not any special, it's not something New.
Hindu is generic term for all indegenous cultures of india linked to each others. Even Vishnu is mentioned in rigveda as small brother of Indra, Shiva (rudra is also mentioned there). So stop your senseless assumptions 🤣
Sanatan Dharm is the right word... Hinduism is not a religion but a Way of life under Sanatan Dharma...
Tamil nadu they don't follow sanatana dharm even nobody knows what it is 😂😂
@@joeljohn2604 you are following like a hundichutiyanas
This debate is very nice.very cordial and civilized form.
all three tamil crown kings defeated maurya Ashoka Empire, maratha Empire,gupta empire because their culture, language and ethenic race people are different.Sindhu river becomes Hindu (Persians called the people living near sindhu, mispronounced as Hindu in 6 th century) sindhu hindhu are sanskrit wordS no connection with TAMIL Language and tradition..there are many thousands of sangam tamil literatures Thoudands of tamil temples with tamil inscriptions in there is no word called "Hindu " or sanathani not found.more over we tamils are against sanathan dharma in tamil nadu . sanskrit and Tamil language are very different so it is even harder to communicate.more over chola is tamil king and belongs to tamil cholas,cheras and pandiyas are tamil three crown kings and they are our tamil pride and belongs to tamil clan.Tamilan da 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥
well said
superda machi👍👍👍❤️❤️🔥🔥
Tamils are the first to make bakthi movement in entire indian union ...that time there is nothing called hinduism ...no villains called brahmins too
Hinduism is nothing but synonym to Sanatan Dharma which constitute Shaivism.
Shaivism is just a sect of Hinduism. Nothing more. Not a separate religion but a Sect. That's all.
@I was There ppl who accept sanata or sathan darma are not even tamils..poda vantheri
The lord king Raaj Raaj cholan was a Hindu.. there is no doubt about it.. unnecessary the waste Dravidian group creating useless issue.
Even Jesus is not Christian. Did Jesus ever claim that he is Christian?
Correct
so Cholas are a god for you now?
@@_.Ash.._ you didn't understand what he actually trying to explain
Followers of Jesus Christ are Christians
Jesus himself is the christ...his followers are known as Christians. I think nobody calls Jesus a Christian.
Right,Hindu word itself is not old more than 200 years..,
Amish Tripathi is historian???
Then i am a Test cricketer 🤪
He has achieved much in life. What have you done in life?
If ur comment had any logic then i have kohinoor diamond
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Gangai kondan means one who conquered Gangai region not simply bringing ganga water
These people are like Raavan. Raavan was a staunch devotee of Shiv but fought with Ram
And you people are like aryans who are no even part of this land so shut up ! Raavan is a hero and one of the most powerful soul to grace the earth . He is supreme devout of lord shiva and shiva has bestowed him arsenal of weapons that even god’s ate afraid to face him . During his stay in Lanka , he didn’t even touched Sita without her consent . That’s how he is ! Whereas during those times , North was filled barbarian hordes
Who the hell you are to insult aryans we are the real indians unlike dk dmk psuedo sickular people
@@shrisuryarathinam97 You can prove the bogus Aryan Invasion Theory rechristened these days as the Aryan Picnic Theory, on the Jaipur Dialogues platform and win 2Cr. (They have an open challenge).
Maybe you can use that 2Cr. to fund an expedition to Rakiagiri and find some non-existent horse bones.
@@shrisuryarathinam97 why do you believe in the biggest lie in India called Dravidian concept brought to India by foreign missionaries which has been proven to be lie
Raavan is ardent Hindu and he is a Brahmin brother of kuber.
Chola Copper Plates provide a detailed lineage that tracks their genealogy.
Starting with Thirumaal (Vishnu), Brahma and eventually Surya.
Cholas considered themselves Suryavanshis.
Interestingly, the devout Shiva bhakts Cholas consider Lord Vishnu, as the first king of their dynasty!Then we arrive at Raghu-vamsa.
Raghu is listed as the 36th king, promptly followed by Dasharath and Lord Rama.
Cholas consider themselves to belong to the lineage of Shri Ram!Chola's family deity (kula deivam) was Nisumbasoodhani, a form of Durga/Kaali which indicates they may also have some lineage from Bengal.
Vijayalaya Chola constructed a temple for the deity immediately after reinstating the Chola rule!Murugan Temple, Saluvankuppam has inscriptions from Parantaka and Rajaraja periods.
Sembiyan Madhevi gave grants for building the Nallur Kamdasamy Temple, in Sri Lanka.
Chola imagery is filled with images of Ganesha.
Kulotunga gave the highest grants to Srirangam Ranganathar Temple.Chola copper plates and inscriptions had both languages- Sanskrit and Tamil.
Rajaraja gave equal wages of Rs.130,732 (in 2022 value) to singers of Vedic and Tamil hymns.
Chola kings did yagnas and followed the scriptures
Conclusion:
TO SUMMARISE:
Lord Vishnu is Cholas first king: Vaishnavam
Cholas areDescendents of Surya: Shouram
Cholas Family Deity is Nisumbasoodhani: Shaktham
Cholas Built Skanda temples: Kaumaram
Cholas Sculpted Ganesha:
Ganapatyam
Cholas are Devout Shiva Worshippers: Shaivam
So, Cholas are Hindus.
Sources:
-Chozhar Varalaaru
-Raja Raja Chozhan
-Studies in Ancient Tamil Law
-Chozhar Kaala Seppedugal
Special Thanks To:
-Thamizh Labs
-Bangadipathi Debarghya Bhowmick Ray.................
Raja Raja cholan was a Tamil king, not Hindu
Stalin is CM of TN ,Modi is PM of india ,but Raja Raja cholan was king of Southern states not only he ruled TN . Just get knowledge
Interesting insights ...Need to rethink about how history is taught in india...But don't agree that movie makers should have a free hand in depicting how characters in our hindu epics should look like....It would simply degrade how we view and think about them..There should be some restrain, sensitivity ..and respect .when dealing with subjects that have religious significance...It is slightly different when someone describe a person using nonvisual, descriptive means...as compared to a live running movie..which have a much bigger impact..To me the depiction of the characters in the movie is appaling..they are not just slightly off...and that calls for a ban..sorry to say it..
Olaradha dude unakku Inna prechna
Yes Hindu is not a religion. Hindu is a geographical location. Hence Kamal Hasan is correct.
By Kamal hassan logic Ram and Krishna were not also not hindu Gods... because hindu is a modern foreign word.
Hindu the name is given by British they didn't about our culture so saivism is different from Hindu religion. Raavan also a saivist king
It is really refreshing to hear a sane voice that speaks of the diverse nature of Indian polity as well as of culture. Moreover when Amish also says that the Chola empire was very much larger than that of Akbar the great , and Emperor Raja Raja Chola was an ardent SAIVAITE AND NOT A HINDU as the term was coined much later by the British, it is high time that the Brahminic - SANATHANIC FANATICS dismount from their high horse. First come out of your mindset of superiority which is totally absurd and stupid. Abolish the nefarious SANATHANA ADHARMA that relegates a very large mass of people of the same belief into untouchables. It is the Tamil Culture that recognises that no one is inferior or superior by birth. If not learn it from the great Raja Raja Chola who inscribed the names of every sculptor, worker, helper and even those who gave drinking water to whoever was working there to build the PERUVUDAIYAR Temple ,as inscriptions. around the temple itself. He never bothered about the caste of anyone. Because , as a Tamil he did not discriminate just as The Brahminic - Sanathanics do.
There is no Aryan invasion, but there was migration from various parts of the world towards India in the ancient world. The Aryan invasion theory was invented by Europeans to divide North and South India..
Of the famous mythological figures in Hinduism a good majority of them are from South India - Examples are Parasuram, Ayyappan, Meenakshi .
The main Scholars and Saints Agastya, Shankaracharya.
Sanatan Dharma has 3 main philosophies - Dvaita , Advaita and Samkya
Dvaitha philosophy believes in Saguna Brahman or a creator with qualities. This has three main branches - Vaishnavism, Shaivism, and Shakthism. Then there are some minor ones which are combination of these three branches.
Advaita Philosophy is a monotheistic philosophy which believes in Nirguna Brahman - a formless, genderless, omnipresent, omnipotent omniscient creator.
Samkya philosophy does not believe in God, but a universal consciousness . Buddhists and Jain's believe in this philosophy.
Sanatan Dharma is the original belief system of India from which Hinduism derived.
Ramayana, Mahabharata, and Bhagavad Gita are entry level scriptures for those who does not have the intellectual capacity to understand Upanishads and Vedas.
Bhagavad Gita is like Kindergarten, and Vedas PhD.
Ambedkar and Periyar were victims of Brahmanical Vaishnavism, which is like the Nazi and KKK of Christianity, and ISIS of Islam. They did things exactly opposite of what is written in scriptures. Since both Periyar and Ambedkar have never read Vedas, their knowledge of Hinduism is the same of the knowledge of outside world of a frog in a well. Their limited knowledge fuelled their hate towards Hinduism.
DMK followed those footsteps. Their blind hate towards Hinduism led to the partial destruction of various major temples, and selling Temple lands to real estate mafia.
Indonesia, despite being a Muslim country, are proud of their Hindu heritage. They preserved their ancient Buddhist and Hindu Temples. The Congress, DMK, and the left parties who were basically funded by western vested interests made everything that they could to shame Hindus and Hindu culture, and feel Indians ashamed of their culture. If these parties had respected Hindu culture, and fair in their actions then BJP would never come to power.
Hindus vote for BJP out of the frustration of Insulting their religion and nation ( eg common wealth games, 2G scam in which DMK was also involved.).
Only Tamilians in Tamil Nadu have problem calling themselves Hindus. Those who live in Sri Lanka, Malaysia, and Singapore proudly call themselves as Hindus. It is more of a cultural Identity than religious identity.
Cholas, Cheras, and Pandyas were Tamil Hindu Dynasties.
The Ahom kingdom in Assam defeated the Mughals 17 times. Lachit Barphukan was an epitome of valour.
What Kamal said was, Saivate, Vaishnava, all are different groups of people and religion. Adi Shankaracharya made it as Shanmadham. Then British gave another name to that Hindu. This is alias alias alias names of the same thing... Useless fight.. I would ask people to ignore all this and focus on progress of this country which is in 2022
Really you are clarifying the history with amish tripathi?? wat next talking economics with actors?? Look at his explanation with analogy on christianity .... difference is did judaism and followers of christ collide together and call themselves in common name?? just the followers of christ got a name thats it... In chola time they were primarily against the vaishanvites there is even records of cholas helping in building buddhist temple but not one record to build vishnu temple... how can u call them 'hindu' which in itself doesnt hav any definition when they were against the same present day hindu?? if this is not for politics then for wat?? all these hindutuva wants is to portray cholas as hindus and bring against mughals for cheap politics... grow up guys
Lol I think u shud stop taking ur meds lol....
Your logic is so dump... Shiva is from north and muruga is from Tamil nadu... does that mean they both are different?
@@pittu1breeze its actually dumb not dump maybe if u wish to get dumped i can let me knw.... are they not?? here in south shiva is father of muruga do u guys in north see them as one??
@@vickyv4707 nah its ok bro any day i prefer my meds over cow urine and shit...u enjoy bon apetite
Words by crypto christian 😂😂 if cholas were shaivites. .then accrding to today's time they were already hindu
We recognision and due respect which all the time tamilnadu relegated to the back ground. The gentleman had given 30 per cent facts he accepted which itself gives some happiness. Hereafter we not not going to long on the north recognision. We go agaist them if they insult us. U stand on Tamil Nadu and not we. Even Chinese show decent respect and honour us but u all the time neglect our history and talents. Pls rethink it will be much better for u . We can independent ly without the north
Shut up
Its time HINDUS in india .. stop listening to british indian immigrants ….
British named Hindu
Chola kingdom they only follow Sivan and Murugan
Raja raja chozhan / Arun mozhi Devan....is a ancient Tamil ruler following Shaivism......that is all....do not add any identity of contemporary on him....please leave him alone.....
Shaivites are subset of Hindus. It's like saying - "This is a mango; don't call it fruit".
Then why Cholas built Sri Ranganatha Swamy temple, which is a Vishnu Temple. Tamilians don't know anything about their ancient culture.
@@thanjusatjayababu2935 he supported vaishnvavites and budhist also...that is the reason he did....please don't interfere in Tamils culture.....we are capable of taking care of ourselves.....kindly leave us alone
@@jagadeeswaranr3821 You are destroying your culture even without realising it. I can show you solid proof for that. I can speak Tamil and lived in TN for 8 years. My native place is Kerala, which is land of Cheras. and my language is Malayalam which is directly derived from classic Thamizh..
I was a communist before and know exactly how they work. They encourage fundamentalists in minority religion and destroy the ancient local culture.. DMK is on that path.
I am not religious, I don't give a damn about Ram and Ram temple. I don't even consider him as God. But I am a great lover of art, architecture, and philosophy.
Your government has destroyed a temple that can beat any world wonder in complexity. The place where the last ancient Tamil Sangham and first Dravida Sanga took place is ignored. What a bunch of hypocrites. You people talk all day about Tamil language and culture, but sold the lands where it flourished to businessmen to destroy ancient structures that have historic values., and build shopping malls on top of it.
If you hate Hindus so much and cannot protect your temples and connected structures, turn it into tourist spots, not shopping centres. It will generate more revenue for the government than a shopping centre which will only benefit real estate mafia.
@@jagadeeswaranr3821 no. Cholas are ours as much as yours I'm a devout shiv bhakt and so is Amish just like the great Cholas
We aren't narrow minded like you we take pride in all our great kingdoms like Marathas, Ahoms, Gajapatis, Mauryas, Cholas, Cheras, Pandyas, Pallavas or Vijayanagaram. Stop trying to say our history is only yours
Chola dynasty doesn’t have just South Indian identity. It has Tamil Dynasty.
Yes they were Hindus if they prayed to shiva .. TN is a state where Hindus are suppressed and the DMK government is to blame. And lot of Tamil directors like vetri maran and ranjith who call themselves atheist only targeting Hindus but have nothing to say about cultures which came in India from outside like Islam and Christianity
What director ranjit says about cholas is a figment of his imagination and there is no archaeological evidence for it.
He is completely influenced by the half baked Dravidian authors and leaders who have the least knowledge about most things.
British said, Hinduism is one that is not Christianity, Islam, Buddhism or Jainism etc. It sounds like, one which not a salt, sugar, dhal or pepper is called as rice. Btw, Hinduism includes so many gods that is non native to Tamil land or culture such as saibaba, dathathriya, parasuraman, even Raman etc. why should I accept Hinduism which includes Gods that is not native to my language and culture?
Rahul Kanwal, You are a knowledgeable person. You seem to be supporting different versions of Ramayan. If at all you are familiar with History and more so of British rule in India you would not support and fight against different versions of facts let alone Ramayan.
The way to rule and put down a race of people is by distorting their history and their beliefs and their faith. That is what the British did everywhere. If you get this point into your head you will not support the concept of different versions.
I am sick of pseudointellectuals of India. We have more traitors who are Indians.
Hindu is nowhere mentioned in Vedas. Neither is it mentioned in any of the Tamil literature. Hinduism is a word introduced by Britishers and earlier by Islamic invaders to refer to the people and place beyond Indus river seen from the western side of Asia. South Indians have nothing to do with this word at all. It was only Shivam , Vaishnavam and Samanam. Samanam is the same as Buddhism. South never denigrated human beings with grades as in 4 Varna manusmriti bs. Sanathan is an imported concept for people who follow Shiva and Vishnu in South India. Also women are not categorised as shoodras like they are categorised in Manu dharma which includes Brahmin women. Mother , women are given very high social position and many follow matriarchal system unlike the patriarchal system followed in North India. Thus it is unfair to call us Hindus by force and dilute our identity. Sanathanis should feel comfortable that we don't support Islam by these interpretations.
These days Indian seculars find Hindutva everywhere. They found Hindutva in UK (Leicester) , next they will find Hindutva on Mars !
OMG chola😟❤️
Why is india today is so much interested in cholas these days
R u sure this guy is an historian? Im dought
A man belongs to Christianity but he is not christian, this is kamalahasan.
This is not the first time this actor is bashing Hindus. Does he have the same guts to comment about other religion?. We should not give importance to comments from him but just ignore this "Pappu". What can you expect if one does not know or value the Hindu Civilization?. Defies logic and reasoning.
Already Rahul Kanwal has very good experience in interviewing Finance minister of TN PTR.
just forget about the question whether King Raja Rajan is hindu or not, since when a novelist like Amish Tripathi become a historian. These North indian medias don't have any knowledge of history
Cholas is not a hindu king, he is a tamil king.
6 moms each give birth to a child. A rich guy comes later and marries the ladies. Now legally he can be the dad. But technically is it right? Now if we claim NO as the kids are not born to him; is it wrong? The kids are saivam, vainam,..and rich guy u know who ..
Agree?
Mr. Amit Tripathi is wrong with his interpretations... Rajendira Cholan defeated the kings of Gangetic region and brought made defeated kings to carry ganges water in their heads. His Christian analogy is also flawed. You can not call ancient Greeks and Romans as Christians just because present day Greeks and Italians are christians.
U r not from Tamil Nadu....u will not understand the the social fabrication of Tamil....which is not similar to north India
IMHO this "controversy" seems to have been "created" just to attract eyeballs to this movie.
No its created for political gains. They dont want to talk about corruption, unemployment, rising economic inequality, crony capitalism.
Kamal Hassan and logic is opposite to each other. U can see the debate of Smriti Irani and Kamal hassan to understand his knowledge.
I remember that debate... Kamal looked dumb as it gets....very dull guy
It's unfortunate to hear that movies about Chola, Pallavas or other south Indian rulers as politically motivated/non-Muslim agenda from someone like Rahul whom lot of youngster look upto in the newsroom.
I personally would have expected a better set of questions rather than making it a biased questionnaire.
SOUTH INDIANS & especially the TAMILS need no sermons or preaching from the north indians hindiwalas etc.etc because they are well informed & educated in all aspects. All these years mainly north indians hid everything that was SOUTH INDIA & SOUTH INDIANS
Amish Tripathi has given his presentation well with political motives.
Dr Anand Ranganathan should learn a lot from him .
Btw, ponniyin selvan is a fictional story. I personally feel that this movie is a disgrace to great warrior Adita karikaalan who is portrayed as drunken due to love failure on a fictional character Nandhini. Most characters in the movie are fictional, except for the name of the chola kings. I would say, the govt need to ban the story writers or movie makers from using the name of great warrior kings like cholas in their fictional stories.
Why keep harping on this non-issue? Nobody has said that the Chola Raja was a Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddhist or a Jain. The default setting in India is Hinduism. Amish has hit the nail on its head. The Tamils are scared of losing their unique identity.
@I was There
Kamal Hassan has said that the Cholas were Shaivites. Today Shaivites are very much a part of Hinduism though there are some dissenting voices. For example, the Lingayats of Karnataka used to clamour for a separate identity. Once Yediyurappa became the face of BJP, that movement was nipped in the bud. There nobody disputes that Cholas were a part of Sanatan Dharma. He is right technically. The term 'HINDU'has a Persian origin and originally referred to the dwellers of the Sindhu Valley. In that narrow sense the Cholas, the rulers of the Kavery valley, were not Hindus. Today the term has a different denotation and can be retrospectively applied to the Chozha Rajas.
However, there is another dimension here which is what the Tamil chauvinists are worried about. God Murugan of Tamil Nadu is known by the name of Karthikeyan in the North. Giving prominence to the name Karthikeyan doesn't go against Hinduism, but for the Tamils it would be a diminishing of their stature in Indian society. I used it as a metaphor. By a coincidence, there is an order from the Home Ministry to remove English totally from higher education and courts and to give preeminence to Hindi (and regional languages). If English is removed, Hindi will become the most important language by default and will be a means to establish the Northern hegemony over the south. This is the deep war that is taking place beneath this apparently silly debate.
Kamal is Pakistani Hasan from Arabia
🤣🤣🤣 What the f.. ?
@I was There nee thamizh nada da dei
with same logic:Ms dhoni is a wicket keeper and batsman, but he is not a cricketer .
Question is binary is Raja Raja a Hindu king ? Yes or No. He lived in a period prior to birth of Hinduism as we know today. Instead why we tap dance. The question is why are we arguing about a king who ruled king time ago with the religion which is irrelevant to his time. 🤣
Raja raja cholan was not Hindu king because no Hindu term in his period, he was Tamil king and religion was saivam
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In Raja Raja Chola time Boutha,Jain,Saiva,Vaisnaw religion is only exist. Raja Raja Chola belongs to Saivatie religion. Raja Raja Chola won't know about Hindu.This word given by Britishers who belongs to Non Chiritian, Non Muslims.Non parsies.
Btw, Ponniyin selvan is a fiction which in my opinion is a disgrace for a great warrior adita karikaala cholan who was portrayed as drunken due to love failure due to a fictional lady Nandhini. So many characters except the cholas were fictional in the story. I would say, we should ban story writers and movie makers to use the name of great warriors like chola in their fictional movies.
like Chola are not Hindu as that time "Hinduism" is not coined then Cholas are not Indian or Tamil at all because these two word also don't exist in that time.😁
We changed Bombay to mumbai,
Calcutta to kolkotta,
Bangalore to Bengaluru ...
Trivandrum to thiruvanadhapuram..
Why not
hindu to Sindhu..
Why not hindu to sanadhana Dharma (the real name)..
Some bloody Persian people unable to pronounce "sindhu".unable to pronounce "sa" sound..
And we too follow the same nonsense pronouncement..
And proudly claim
Hindu is our religion name...🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
We believe in fate and karma.
It's our karma and fate ,some he'll of nonsense A..H...
Unable to pronounce "si" .
,,,so " si" Is
kld
" hi"..
And we fellow 🤷♂️..
I'm proud to say I am a sanadhana dharma or Sindhu
,than a Persian pronountiation....
Considering Ramayan as a golden era of India's early history, they have entirely replaced many significant reference points like they have replaced the Pushpak Vimaan(Flying Chariot) of Ravan with a dragon, they have also changed the Golden Kingdom of Lanka to a Dark Kingdom, they have also changed Ravan's look to modern and the Vanar Sena(Apes Army) was meant to look like Hanuman they also changed that.
If Ramayan was a hypothetical history then it was alright but it is a rich part of India's early history with factual evidence which you can google like Ram Setu, Ashok Vatika, Footprints of Hanuman and etc. By depicting in this way entire history is being distorted.
Many Universities across the globe are now trying to reinvent the propulsion technology which was used in Ravan's Pushpak Vimaan(Flying Chariot) which is Mercury Vortex Engine to bring in a major breakthrough in Rocket Propulsion Technology. So Ramayan does have a major contribution in terms of history, culture and technology.
When you are adapting something from our ancient history you cannot create something haphazard and defend it by saying it's cinematic liberty. That just doesn't make sense.
I think you should say Indian historians and archeologists don't consider them as real events but foreign historians and archeologists do, they are the one who showed enthusiasm, put a lot of effort and found Ram Setu not Indians. Indian historians and archeologists are pre - judgemental that is why foreigners found Ram Setu not us even if Ram Setu is India's asset and pride.
If today, Archeological Survey of India shows the same enthusiasm, put the same effort as of foreign Historians and archeologists then by doing some archeological survey in Ayodhya we can definitely find evidence of Ram's Ayodhya.
Egypt's economy survives because of their tourist attraction of ancient Pharaoh City which came into existence in 3000 BCE and rocks from Ram Setu is dated from 7000 BCE. So same can be in the case of India it is just that we have to do a proper, full fledge Archeological Survey in the cities mentioned in our Scriptures.
Many universities like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Oxford, Caltech etc, even NASA do research on this topic. Both Pushpak Vimana and Rukma Vimana work on the same technology which is Mercury Vortex Engine which is given in Vimana Shastra and these universities are referring to that and NASA's Ion Engine is just one percent demonstration of the technology.
In ancient history, a Mercury Vortex Engine was developed and propelled in light of the Hindu Ion Engine of the same name that has been applied of late. It was common for Vimanas to utilize Mercury Engines. Gas or liquid nitrogen-filled propellant tanks are utilized in mercury engines.
In today's world there is no accounting for taste and hence the best comment in this video has no likes..
Great Analysis..but state or central team should have documented it in 1947.. everyone ignored our history since being Tamil kings or Tamil invention are not recognized
Ram, Ravana are fictitious , fraud characters .... you are a storyteller .... irrational
North India's fradulant archeologist, historians never recognise, telling truth about Tamilnadu, Tamils, South India.... Sangis 👎
This is a complete non-issue. Why should it occupy space on prime time national television is beyond me. Tomorrow I will say that the sun rises in the west or that a pig eats via its arse. Will you hold a debate on that as well?