OMG, you changed my life. I have been trying to make a decent bassline for two years. This is the first tutorial from a producer whose music I listen to.
Good one! On your website I read the whole tutorial and only then saw there's a video at the bottom. I like the text but some people visiting your site may miss that there's a video as well since it's not mentioned at the top.
@@EClipChannel Do you use FabFilter Saturn on your basslines? I found it pretty useful on psytrance basses to saturate clickiness and reduce the excessivness of lowend.
I follow along, but the outcome is bit diffferent. Comparing the peaks on the EQ, mine is having shallower peaks and walleyes around the fundamentals. Actually if i put my bass one octave higher i get the same 'picture' and dynamics, but yeah it is too high for a bass. On the original octave it is dull compared to yours. Same processing step by step ... Maybe it is because i use FL ??
I do use external converters, but I get the same sound if do trough soundcard directly. Only thing I can guess is FL sound Engine or Audio Interface you use. If you use RME, you should definitely get the same sound.
Have you ever tried to do it with a hardware synth? Or do you have any proof that hardware can sound better than VST? As I tested many of the hardware synths.
@@EClipChannel It depends on what you mean by “sound better”. I definitely think it's nicer when there's still some life in the bassline. but I don't know much about the specific genre, maybe every bassline just has to sound the same.
First of all, thanks a lot for the tutorial!! it helped me very much! but Im having some problems when i change de notes of the bass, any tips fot not screw up the timbre when changing the notes?
I have noticed a few producers doing this asymetrical saw wave, what is the point? Does this not cause DC offset? and would this not just make a quieter wave? Great tutorial man!
And as well, processing is a bit huge, specialy if you use distorsions, and phase alignment, this shape of saw will only provide less low hormonics, but original shape will be totally different.
Do you recod your output directly from your soundcard or is taken from the speakers ? Your sound has a very distinct character to it, almost like a square wavish influence / distortion, which i cannot reproduce no matter how precisely I follow your steps here.
I record through loopback, and this might be because of the soundcard or FL studio sound engine, I'm not sure how FL sounds as I never used it, but I did compare same results from Ableton, Logic and Cubase, and there is a difference between those 3 for sure.
what music programme do you guys use.... i used to use a cracked version of abelton 9 live suit it was very hard to get started and i had to learn every thing by my self... is therer an esaier program to use to hav som fun with making your on psy/progressiv trance
Ableton is the easiest that exist, all others are much harder. You should notnsay that you need to learn everything by yourself in 2022 when you have so many tutorials ob the youtube. Some of us have learned everything by our selves when TH-cam didn't exist.
Weird if I put the atack at 0 like in the video the click gets more washy I had to put the atack a bit later around 0.8 or 0.9 for it to sound the same, it might be a bug but this is how it worked for me.
@@EClipChannel yep 🙏👌 btw thanks for this, helped me a lot. Never would have thought to use a double lfo for sidechaining, at least not in this lifetime. 😂😂😂
maybe a really stupid question, but do I still need to layer it with a sub layer? cause after that lowcut at maybe 50 hz it is to weak in the low low end or am i wrong?
Not a stupid question at all. But you should not add any sub-layer, actually, the serum provides more sub than needed, that's why I usually use the bend +/-!
Its strange, i made the serum like you do, but my sound in cakewalk sonar its very different!!! I don't now if is the software or the sound system!! Nice tutorial! Thanks
@@EClipChannel I need some help aswell... What do i need to do for it to sound the same ?? It sounds so weak compared to yours but i followed it exactly 3 times ! Please some kind of a tutorial or guide me to a video :/
@@EClipChannelRight, when I change the phase of the bass I can see kick wave degradation on osciloscope at some points and hear that kick and bass loose some of their low end. I would also recommend using Mautoalign or SoundRadix autolign tools.
Autoalign works with the latency, it migh move your bassline up to 20ms which is not so good. Only plugin that changes the phase this way is PHA-979 that i know of, never found any other plugin like that (there is one from UAD)
The sound on the first note, that "sometimes" appears is not the end of the last note, it´s a prering caused (most often) by linear phase eq's ;) Here´s some more on this: reverb.com/news/linear-phase-vs-regular-eq-which-is-better
Try it without eq, and you will notice its still happening. Linear phase makes pre-ringing, witch apears before note played, not after. Anyway, LFO tool solves problem.
@@EClipChannel Thank you so much for this tutorial, I always felt after all the sidechaining there was still some leftover frequencies, and you answered it perfectly in this video. However, adding the 2nd LFO tool increases the problem for me instead of solving it, is it because I am using Ableton ?
It changes only the phase. When you see wavefrom of the kick, and when you see the line going up, by changing the phase for 180, you would get same line but going down. When tweaking the PHA you should listen to low end
hi dude this is a really precise tutorial thank you ! however i'd like to know why is the bass color changing between this frame 8:49 and this frame 9:05, i would love to know what process makes that high frequency part so flat and powerful :) maybe the fact that you microphone is on ?? ahah
It is because i always reduce 1st note of the bass in midi. Velocity to 80 and other 2 notes are on 100. This way it gives a bit of sidechain to st note. In this video, only after 1st kick there was 1 note that was reduced to 80, thats why i cuted and extened. I hope you understud, but check when i was drawing midi, you will see that only on 1 note i had 1st note reduced
OMG, you changed my life. I have been trying to make a decent bassline for two years. This is the first tutorial from a producer whose music I listen to.
same
Best psytrance bass tutorial on the internet
Best tutorial for bass man, thanks!
I agree with you man!
@@andremarangoni6937 can u get serum on your Android .? Good vid as well
I have to join the other comments here: This is really the best Psy bass tutorial and gives you immediately the right sound!! Well done!!
Fantastic tutorial dude and great sounding bass!
You guys are pretty rad giving out all these knowledge's to us younglings. Thanks :)
This deserves more views. Epic
Au druze, svaka ti cast. Bolji tutorial nema na YT. Hvala ti sto delis znanje
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
The best tutorial thanks
He explained everything well, including how to properly process it without phasing coool
I‘ve been looking so long for a psytrance bass tutorial like that! Thank you so much and keep doing videos like that👍
Thank you you are Master i have E Clip masterclass already it's very nice i enjoy every minute learning from you greetings 😀👌
Thank you
Nice, the saw adjustment solve lot of problems righ at the source, without having to mess with compressor and eq too much. Like it!
@1:47 - Surge XT has plenty 18dB filters
best tutorial that i watch so far yet
Good one! On your website I read the whole tutorial and only then saw there's a video at the bottom. I like the text but some people visiting your site may miss that there's a video as well since it's not mentioned at the top.
Thanks for that, the main idea is a blog! Video is there just to support the Blog.
Thx brother from now all will be another, you are TOP, omg!!! This is the best!!!!
bravo kralju, ogromna hvala za ovakve videe!
Thanks alot!
man! thanks for sharing your knowledge! this tutorial totally saved my life
WOW you are The best E'clip! thanks for those amazing tutorials.
Thanks for all the resources
wow I've watched several tutorials but this is hands down the richest in details! so precise, so clean...
wow that was EPIC thank you so much! that really helps me
you da boss! thank you and forever greatful!
Amazing tutorial! Very clear although not being overly simplified. Waiting eagerly for more of it!!!
Cant be more simple than this. Full bassline in my projects have more yhan 10 plugins. This is kinda of a starting point
@@EClipChannel Do you use FabFilter Saturn on your basslines? I found it pretty useful on psytrance basses to saturate clickiness and reduce the excessivness of lowend.
Thank you for going the extra mile!
Excellent project of how to make a bassline!
Thanks Marko!! Greetings from Greece bro🙏🙏
Great tutorial. Simple and clean! Thx!
Thanks for this tutorial , many blessings & Namaste
Thanks for all the tutorials, huge gift for the community!
Thanks for the awesome tutorial.
realy nice, thx, can you pls show us how you EQ Bass and Kick together, thx
TY!
thank u so much for share your techniques. It's so important to us, begginers :)
brilliant producer thanks for this tutorial and clean expression
I made this and its a game changer. Thank you bro. Can't wait for the next tuts!
Awesome stuff man, really appreciate it!
amazing tutorial
Love you're project one of my favs, great work with the tutorial, thanks!!!!
this tutorial is so much valuable
great tutorial, cant wait to try these tips
Hey, thank you , best tutorial for bass
best tutorial ever
wow thank you for this nice goooooooooood bass sound!!!!
thank you!!! i realy like your song and your quality :)
i simple enjoy your music alot cant wait to see u live
Hvala legendo!
Great tutorial! I think many other psytrance bass tutorials lack some punchiness.
Nice one bro!
Very good man!
Thanks!!!
Thank you so much man
amazing dude, thanks a lot!
You’re a legend mate 🙏🏽
Thank you so much for sharing!!
What a f%$? Who can dislike? Why? This is amazing! I am improve, who dislike, he cant do better!
tHANK YOU
Great tutorial! Tnx!
great tutorial thanks !
I learned so much from you
muito obrigado ajudou de mais.
Amazing
Awesome!!!
Great stuff bro!
thanks for t video!! :)
*Perfect*
nice one
thanks, brother! sharon is karen!
Hey brother, any new memes?
Best!
you missed much low end, it is about 33hz using those sheetee eqs.
Can you also do the transient step with Izotope's Neutron 3 Transient Shaper?
No, but you can with Melda MTransientMb : www.meldaproduction.com/MTransientMB
@@EClipChannel Thankssss man, dope music !
I follow along, but the outcome is bit diffferent. Comparing the peaks on the EQ, mine is having shallower peaks and walleyes around the fundamentals. Actually if i put my bass one octave higher i get the same 'picture' and dynamics, but yeah it is too high for a bass. On the original octave it is dull compared to yours. Same processing step by step ... Maybe it is because i use FL ??
I do use external converters, but I get the same sound if do trough soundcard directly. Only thing I can guess is FL sound Engine or Audio Interface you use. If you use RME, you should definitely get the same sound.
not bad for a VST bassline
Have you ever tried to do it with a hardware synth? Or do you have any proof that hardware can sound better than VST? As I tested many of the hardware synths.
@@EClipChannel It depends on what you mean by “sound better”. I definitely think it's nicer when there's still some life in the bassline. but I don't know much about the specific genre, maybe every bassline just has to sound the same.
thx bro
First of all, thanks a lot for the tutorial!! it helped me very much! but Im having some problems when i change de notes of the bass, any tips fot not screw up the timbre when changing the notes?
Just did a video about that, check my channel for latest video
Awesome video dude! for some reason when i add the second lfo tool it sidechains it again?
Sure thing. LFO Tool should sidechain it, you need to disable “volume” on it so it doesn’t sidechain.
@@EClipChannel uh yes, that makes sense. cheers for the reply
You are fuckin' god! Thank you for this tut! IT CHANGED MY LIFE!
I have noticed a few producers doing this asymetrical saw wave, what is the point? Does this not cause DC offset? and would this not just make a quieter wave? Great tutorial man!
he explained why he uses this one, because it produces less of the lowest harmonic (that he cuts anyways)
And as well, processing is a bit huge, specialy if you use distorsions, and phase alignment, this shape of saw will only provide less low hormonics, but original shape will be totally different.
Is there any alternative to the envelope shaper? Im using ableton and cant find any multiband envelope shaper vst. Thanks a lot for the tutorial btw!
Melda Production Transient MB sound the same as envelop shaper
6 people thats dislike don't know what's a good class
Do you recod your output directly from your soundcard or is taken from the speakers ? Your sound has a very distinct character to it, almost like a square wavish influence / distortion, which i cannot reproduce no matter how precisely I follow your steps here.
I record through loopback, and this might be because of the soundcard or FL studio sound engine, I'm not sure how FL sounds as I never used it, but I did compare same results from Ableton, Logic and Cubase, and there is a difference between those 3 for sure.
what music programme do you guys use.... i used to use a cracked version of abelton 9 live suit it was very hard to get started and i had to learn every thing by my self... is therer an esaier program to use to hav som fun with making your on psy/progressiv trance
Ableton is the easiest that exist, all others are much harder. You should notnsay that you need to learn everything by yourself in 2022 when you have so many tutorials ob the youtube. Some of us have learned everything by our selves when TH-cam didn't exist.
👍
Weird if I put the atack at 0 like in the video the click gets more washy I had to put the atack a bit later around 0.8 or 0.9 for it to sound the same, it might be a bug but this is how it worked for me.
Must be the bug, make sure the phase point is totally on left as well.
@@EClipChannel yep 🙏👌 btw thanks for this, helped me a lot. Never would have thought to use a double lfo for sidechaining, at least not in this lifetime. 😂😂😂
maybe you can tell what volume level for Bass and for Kick you aproximately use. kick minus 11, bass minus 12-13?
I use Kick -5 and bass i measure in Rms, always mixing by ears as number can’t give you great results.
maybe a really stupid question, but do I still need to layer it with a sub layer? cause after that lowcut at maybe 50 hz it is to weak in the low low end or am i wrong?
Not a stupid question at all. But you should not add any sub-layer, actually, the serum provides more sub than needed, that's why I usually use the bend +/-!
@@buzlanes I did show in some video about band +/- on serum. It is not a pitch its just next to wavetable position knob
@@EClipChannel oh I understand. Thank you very much!
can you do this tutorial on Fl Studio please? :) I love this bassline
Just follow his steps, if u got all those Plugins there should be no Problem to hit the same result.
@@arkaadian1146 exactlly
which daw does eclip use in this video?
thanks😊
What are the LFOs modulating?
what u think guys using Neutron 3 Transient Shaper - iZotope to replace the cubase multiband shaper ? i use ableton live
Neutro will take to much of your CPU, use MTransientMB from Melda Production, there's no difference from EnvelopShaper
@@EClipChannel thanks a lot bro
@@EClipChannel Thanks man !
thanks!!! what is the best BPM for punchy swagy Psytrance??? 138?142?
Depends, Progressive vibe you can get till 138, after that it just sounds as psytrance fullon.
Its strange, i made the serum like you do, but my sound in cakewalk sonar its very different!!! I don't now if is the software or the sound system!! Nice tutorial! Thanks
Music card 😆😆😁
It migh be Soundcard!
@@EClipChannel I need some help aswell... What do i need to do for it to sound the same ?? It sounds so weak compared to yours but i followed it exactly 3 times ! Please some kind of a tutorial or guide me to a video :/
great man, thx. i have a question. how do you know what plug in changes the phase and if you are in the right phase or not?
You should be able to hear it, but if not then any oscilloscope plugin will show you if you know how to check it.
@@EClipChannelRight, when I change the phase of the bass I can see kick wave degradation on osciloscope at some points and hear that kick and bass loose some of their low end. I would also recommend using Mautoalign or SoundRadix autolign tools.
Autoalign works with the latency, it migh move your bassline up to 20ms which is not so good. Only plugin that changes the phase this way is PHA-979 that i know of, never found any other plugin like that (there is one from UAD)
The sound on the first note, that "sometimes" appears is not the end of the last note, it´s a prering caused (most often) by linear phase eq's ;)
Here´s some more on this: reverb.com/news/linear-phase-vs-regular-eq-which-is-better
Try it without eq, and you will notice its still happening. Linear phase makes pre-ringing, witch apears before note played, not after. Anyway, LFO tool solves problem.
ok, does not appear in studio one, but might be editing/clip setting
@@TheSlackjointDudes hi slackjoint just think it's his studio sound going through the microphone
@@EClipChannel Thank you so much for this tutorial, I always felt after all the sidechaining there was still some leftover frequencies, and you answered it perfectly in this video. However, adding the 2nd LFO tool increases the problem for me instead of solving it, is it because I am using Ableton ?
1:50
*Surge* , a free synth:
Am I a joke to you?
Surge you are ;)
Why my bassline gets fucked up when I put effects in that order, but when PHA is set on the end everything is ok?
Can you explain why and what you are doing with the PHA-979 more detailed ?
For sure
@@EClipChannel When you changing the phase in PHA-979 what are you listening for?
It changes only the phase. When you see wavefrom of the kick, and when you see the line going up, by changing the phase for 180, you would get same line but going down. When tweaking the PHA you should listen to low end
hi dude this is a really precise tutorial thank you ! however i'd like to know why is the bass color changing between this frame 8:49 and this frame 9:05, i would love to know what process makes that high frequency part so flat and powerful :) maybe the fact that you microphone is on ?? ahah
It is because i always reduce 1st note of the bass in midi. Velocity to 80 and other 2 notes are on 100. This way it gives a bit of sidechain to st note. In this video, only after 1st kick there was 1 note that was reduced to 80, thats why i cuted and extened. I hope you understud, but check when i was drawing midi, you will see that only on 1 note i had 1st note reduced
@@EClipChannel hey dude im not talking about the velocity but the way it sound :)
@@tripshift4914 Well there is only 1 change in bass sound, and that's midi with the velocity and without, in a range where you said.
@@EClipChannel but i think it's because of your sound system theres like a sort of feedback in the microphone
giving flateness to the bass
@@EClipChannel listen with earphone dude you'll normally notice :)