I really hope Justin Parnell comes back for episode 300 and they play one 5 player ffa game. I miss Parnell... I hope all is well with his family and he is doing well.
I think he said he was steeping away from production with scg to work on more of the tournament stuff with more venues opening up. I think it was a work load thing for him but he left a detailed explanation on his Twitter a bit ago.
When I heard Jeremy was going for the DnD theme I thought he'd be using the dragon showcase frame treatments from the B&G Lair before I remembered that they haven't shipped out yet. I liked how on-theme a lot of John's deck was while still being pretty powerful.
Yeah, lots of negative comments this time, but I agree it was a great game all around. I think some people are in the habit of taking out their disapproval of Wizard's Secret Lairs and Universe Beyond on the people who choose to play those cards, which isn't fair. They're going to have to get over it eventually though since I don't see Wizards stopping in the near future.
I hope they do the add a color theme again sometime soon. Just add a single color to your commander colors for the sake of deck building. Very fun way to build 1 and 2 color commanders with an extra color that would really help them.
Stephen: "Hey Jon, I'm gonna let you draw a ton of cards by not paying the Study Tax. :)" Jon: "Thanks Stephen. I'm gonna cast your Beast Within blowing up your World Tree you've been wanting to use forever." Stephen: ":("
I haven't finished watching yet, but to be fair, I have the same deck, and world tree ability just ends the game. The majority of gods will enter as creatures, which triggers Purphoros, God of the Forge a huge number of times, outright killing players a lot of the time.
I love watching Corey discover EDH. I love the bell. I love all you guys and I think that the general power level and fun that's had is all about equal. Keep having fun and I'll keep watching!
@@markbrierley6367 You don't know that Commander VS creates rules and not follow the rules of the format? You must not be watching for a long time. If they want to do it, they'll do it. They just did it with the fake backgrounds, planeswalker as commanders who don't have the lign of text...
1:08:00 Did I miss something? Why did Stephen keep 2 of his god-cards when John blew up all non-land permanents? Even if they aren't active they should be enchantments.
Fun game, though also a cautionary tale of what an unchecked Rhystic Study + Jodah can do. I agree with Tomer over at MtGGoldfish that "since they've already drawn 7, just let them keep drawing" is poor logic as it just lets the Rhystic deck fully snowball. Taxes are important.
I had the cash, to buy fake black lotus, Glued it to a mountain, and sold it to the POTUS. I'm not here, to cause no trouble I'm legally required to do the Secret Lair Shuffle.
Altar of the Pantheon gains life if you control one of the things listed, not if you cast them. It’s a v small error, but if that small amount of life keeps Stephen alive in the end, that’ll be problematic. (Edit for spelling)
That doesn't make much sense. I was actually concerned the opposite way. With just 1 Theros god out Altar would basically give life each tap. Each time Stephen hypothetically cast a non-god with Altar (or didn't cast anything) he would "lose" a life. Good to know it was just 1 in the end.
@@stephengreen1887 Yeah, I may have overreacted seeing as it was the 1 life and realized indestructible enchantments stick around sooo much longer than other things😅 My B
Rules as Written: Jon shouldn’t lose a point for killing all other players on the same turn. Technically, he did not kill anyone and simply won the game with all opponents still alive. 😂
I haven't watched commander vs as consistently since Justin left, but it feels like Cory always comes with much more competitive decks than what the show, and the rest of the crew, tend to bring. Could be wrong, just a feeling
Yeah, it’s like he’s trying to push towards an 8/10 while everyone else typically stays with the 5or6/10 on the scale. Kindof irritating, it just doesn’t feel the same. I miss the old banter honestly
@@shadowmikey3376 I miss Justin too...but Corey sure has lost a lot of games for his decks to be stronger than everyone else's. Wasn't he like dead last for his first two seasons?
Dont really agree, he was even running bad singular removal, also Jeremy playing broken treasure dragons and Jhon just won cause of Rhystic Study and Jodah.
That's true, but bad running and not winning doesn't directly show the power level of the deck. A weaker deck can still win if it is piloted better. Overall I think Corey's decks come in at a stronger base level, having some busted dragons doesn't make Jerem's deck a stronger power level when you look at the rest of the cards being played alongside it. every deck needs some good card but those good cards don't speak for the whole deck
I think a lot of that can be attributed to Corey not being as proficient in the game. He admits to having less experience, sometimes not even knowing what cards do. Whether that's him playing dumb for the show or actually not knowing how cards work, his lower experience level could attribute to the lower win rate even though he comes in with stronger decks
I would imagine since this is the secret lair episode, it's probably the Phyrexian alternate text version. Unless Corey is fluent in Phyrexian, I can see why he would need some help with it
@@logancowheard3078 Yep I think you are right. Looking at it again the border looks like the Phyrexian version. Didn't even remember they released those Phyrexian cards. Now it makes a lot more sense haha.
The more I watch games with Corey, the more I'm sure I'd never enjoy a game with Corey. He seems like a super nice guy, but the power level difference is something you'd have to be aware of at this point.
Corey plays decks that stop other people from playing magic. How totally frustrating. If he continues I'm probably going to stop watching; been watching for years and will miss the guys but it isn't fun to watch like this. Edit: after realizing I have some decks that do things like that, I humbly eat my words.
sorry but playing Tiamat and Esika zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. missed opportunity to play more of the walking dead / stranger things commanders and you forgot street fighter :*(. good game nonetheless.
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I miss Justin
same
I agree. To me Corey doesnt fit the vibe. I stopped watching them for a short while and came to see Justin gone and was just disappointed
Yeah… Corey just doesn’t play on their power level which is semi irritating. Plus… EQUIPPED-ED…… 😑😑
@@shadowmikey3376 I remember when I thought Jeremy was the spikey player .I get it though modern is Corey's format right and its only spike.
I miss Justin and also I love Corey on the show.
I really hope Justin Parnell comes back for episode 300 and they play one 5 player ffa game. I miss Parnell... I hope all is well with his family and he is doing well.
I think he said he was steeping away from production with scg to work on more of the tournament stuff with more venues opening up. I think it was a work load thing for him but he left a detailed explanation on his Twitter a bit ago.
I like how Stephen says, "for anyone who doesn't know Altar of the Pantheon is..." then had the second part wrong
This is not the first, or last time Stephen will make this mistake. Sometimes he likes to sneak a word or two in there…
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When I heard Jeremy was going for the DnD theme I thought he'd be using the dragon showcase frame treatments from the B&G Lair before I remembered that they haven't shipped out yet.
I liked how on-theme a lot of John's deck was while still being pretty powerful.
Stephen paying his taxes and Jeremy not was not something I would have ever predicted
Prediction for episode 300, each player plays a 300 card commander deck with Battle of Wits
each deck was very strong and well played each turn had me in suspense LETS GOO GG
Yeah, lots of negative comments this time, but I agree it was a great game all around. I think some people are in the habit of taking out their disapproval of Wizard's Secret Lairs and Universe Beyond on the people who choose to play those cards, which isn't fair. They're going to have to get over it eventually though since I don't see Wizards stopping in the near future.
Corey should have gotten a bunch of treasures from Revel In Riches when Jon cast Ruinous Ultimatum. No one else caught that huh?
What a relief
I hope they do the add a color theme again sometime soon. Just add a single color to your commander colors for the sake of deck building. Very fun way to build 1 and 2 color commanders with an extra color that would really help them.
I think Corey should have create treasures when ultimátum has resolved cause revel in riches
Was going to to say something about this.
It’s Wednesday night and you know what that means Star city games on TH-cam
Stephen: "Hey Jon, I'm gonna let you draw a ton of cards by not paying the Study Tax. :)"
Jon: "Thanks Stephen. I'm gonna cast your Beast Within blowing up your World Tree you've been wanting to use forever."
Stephen: ":("
I haven't finished watching yet, but to be fair, I have the same deck, and world tree ability just ends the game. The majority of gods will enter as creatures, which triggers Purphoros, God of the Forge a huge number of times, outright killing players a lot of the time.
The 'lowest hanging fruit' was "heads I win tails you lose"
49:42 Corey: "All right, your deck is awesome, Jeremy."
people in the know: "That's because D&D is awesome, kid."
Stephen had me so excited! I have Esika Gods myself, and I love making the table pray to the Pantheon
I love watching Corey discover EDH. I love the bell. I love all you guys and I think that the general power level and fun that's had is all about equal. Keep having fun and I'll keep watching!
29:33 “I may not have watched every single episode of The Walking Dead, but I can promise you there are Zero Praetor’s” absolutely killed me 😂
Corey looks like he is Amish and on Rumspringa with that shirt, beard, and no mustache. 😂
I feel like Steven is memeing because he gets purphoros with the world tree
Lmao jon: you guys all live unhealthier lives and I'm the biggest guy here.
I felt that
Yeahhhhh Corey! still loving you in the first place chair! Keep it up bro!
Smug Corey is best Corey. But... I hope Justin and his family are alright
I’m willing to bet that for 300 they all play 300 card Battle of Wits decks.
Edit: Double sleeved of course.
Probably not since this is Commander Vs so you can't play a 300 card deck.
@@markbrierley6367 You don't know that Commander VS creates rules and not follow the rules of the format? You must not be watching for a long time. If they want to do it, they'll do it. They just did it with the fake backgrounds, planeswalker as commanders who don't have the lign of text...
As a Hawaiian shirt wearing Corey myself, I'm Rooting for US!
*Thanks for the Content* !
I'm still hoping to see someone play commander yennett odd only deck or Corey finally playing in his first horde
Jon should have meritlaged Corey's face with the thespian stage then mazesended with what he did to you
Where are the deck lists? I'd like to see that Tiamat deck!
They keep removing my comments with the link though
Go to their MtG articles page, you can find them there.
I wonder what Jonathan's Powershell is for his microsoft deck.
aaaaaand that's what happens when Rhystic Study isn't respected.
1:08:00 Did I miss something? Why did Stephen keep 2 of his god-cards when John blew up all non-land permanents? Even if they aren't active they should be enchantments.
They are indestructible.
Yay, a board wipe! It is nice to not have the game end right after everyone plays their opening hands.
Title of the game "What happens when u dont pay for Rhystic Study."
Fun game, though also a cautionary tale of what an unchecked Rhystic Study + Jodah can do. I agree with Tomer over at MtGGoldfish that "since they've already drawn 7, just let them keep drawing" is poor logic as it just lets the Rhystic deck fully snowball. Taxes are important.
Was hoping to see a street fighter secret lair Commander
It's a shame that the street fighter secret lair hadn't been delivered yet.
EQUIPPEDED….
I'm glad Corey came on and not Ross. He taps his permanent the wrong way hahahaha.
But his voice is much more irritating to listen to… also EQUIPPEDED…
Team Green
I had the cash, to buy fake black lotus,
Glued it to a mountain, and sold it to the POTUS.
I'm not here, to cause no trouble
I'm legally required to do the Secret Lair Shuffle.
The hawaiian shirt is back!
Also bill Gates was removed from Microsoft don’t know if you know this
What is this oml : D hope it's hot spicy jank
Jodah showing some skill
I'd love to have seen the coin flip deck on here
Corey missed a lot of sheoldrid triggers , he should of gotten back a creature on his upkeep
Altar of the Pantheon gains life if you control one of the things listed, not if you cast them. It’s a v small error, but if that small amount of life keeps Stephen alive in the end, that’ll be problematic.
(Edit for spelling)
So I gained 1 Life i shouldnt have ?
@@stephengreen1887 I've already forgiven you Stephen hahaha
That doesn't make much sense. I was actually concerned the opposite way. With just 1 Theros god out Altar would basically give life each tap. Each time Stephen hypothetically cast a non-god with Altar (or didn't cast anything) he would "lose" a life. Good to know it was just 1 in the end.
@@stephengreen1887 Yeah, I may have overreacted seeing as it was the 1 life and realized indestructible enchantments stick around sooo much longer than other things😅 My B
I hope we get an appearance from Wes and Justin for episode 300
I just came back, where is Justin and who is the 70’s funk star who took his place, and where did he park the time machine
Ugh, sorry, just can't go without saying I despise the branded secret lairs! Completely breaks the cool factor!
Jeremy Jeremy Jeremy
Not Having Morphon in your Tiamat deck.
I've missed out on alot the past 8 months due to army training. Where did Justin go?
He's on an extended hiatus for personal reasons. You can follow him on Twitter for more information. :)
Justin, Please Come Back, you are missed
Rules as Written: Jon shouldn’t lose a point for killing all other players on the same turn. Technically, he did not kill anyone and simply won the game with all opponents still alive. 😂
@@DaniMol yet it’s still funny
General Kabuto, the equipment thingy seems overcosted
Gosh darn it, why did y'all have to spoil that negan dies in the gates of stranger things? Like for real spoiler alert
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When are we gonna see some cEDH game play? 👀
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Why am I not surprised that Corey is playing Walking Dead cards?
I haven't watched commander vs as consistently since Justin left, but it feels like Cory always comes with much more competitive decks than what the show, and the rest of the crew, tend to bring. Could be wrong, just a feeling
Yeah, it’s like he’s trying to push towards an 8/10 while everyone else typically stays with the 5or6/10 on the scale. Kindof irritating, it just doesn’t feel the same. I miss the old banter honestly
@@shadowmikey3376 I miss Justin too...but Corey sure has lost a lot of games for his decks to be stronger than everyone else's. Wasn't he like dead last for his first two seasons?
Dont really agree, he was even running bad singular removal, also Jeremy playing broken treasure dragons and Jhon just won cause of Rhystic Study and Jodah.
That's true, but bad running and not winning doesn't directly show the power level of the deck. A weaker deck can still win if it is piloted better. Overall I think Corey's decks come in at a stronger base level, having some busted dragons doesn't make Jerem's deck a stronger power level when you look at the rest of the cards being played alongside it. every deck needs some good card but those good cards don't speak for the whole deck
I think a lot of that can be attributed to Corey not being as proficient in the game. He admits to having less experience, sometimes not even knowing what cards do. Whether that's him playing dumb for the show or actually not knowing how cards work, his lower experience level could attribute to the lower win rate even though he comes in with stronger decks
Spoiler Jon is a jerk and I miss Justin
That is all
I don't understand how Corey was confused by Sheoldred...it states quite plainly on the card what the card does.
I would imagine since this is the secret lair episode, it's probably the Phyrexian alternate text version. Unless Corey is fluent in Phyrexian, I can see why he would need some help with it
@@logancowheard3078 Yep I think you are right. Looking at it again the border looks like the Phyrexian version. Didn't even remember they released those Phyrexian cards. Now it makes a lot more sense haha.
Man "the initiative" was such a design mistake. Underwhelming mechanics should not need a minute and a half to explain them.
I was excited to watch this but then seeing Negan left a real sour taste in my mouth
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anyone else getting F****** tired of that bell ?
Corey absolutely sucks at explaining what cards do. I’d hate to play with him
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Cory continues to be the last person I’d ever play commander with.
miss justin
Episode 300 bring back Justin
You guys would have more viewers if it wasn't for Jon
The more I watch games with Corey, the more I'm sure I'd never enjoy a game with Corey. He seems like a super nice guy, but the power level difference is something you'd have to be aware of at this point.
Did you even watch the episode? That absolutely wasn't the case this time (although I agree it has been a problem in the past)...
Corey plays decks that stop other people from playing magic. How totally frustrating. If he continues I'm probably going to stop watching; been watching for years and will miss the guys but it isn't fun to watch like this.
Edit: after realizing I have some decks that do things like that, I humbly eat my words.
Corey is not commander vs material.
sorry but playing Tiamat and Esika zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. missed opportunity to play more of the walking dead / stranger things commanders and you forgot street fighter :*(. good game nonetheless.