I like our system in Germany for glass bottles. They get refilled over and over again until their quality degrades and they get recycled. Most people prefer their beer in glass bottles anyways, which is great. The plastic bottles have a 0,25€ deposit, the refillable plastic ones less and the glass ones only 0,08€.
@@sustainablejungle detail answer: The factories that make drinks, local but also global ones like Coca Cola do this. People have a choice between single use PET, the reusable harder plastic or glass. The bottles get thoroughly cleaned and the labels taken off and then a machine scans them for wear and tear. Then they get refilled with new caps placed on them. One bottle can be reused up to 25 times if plastic and up to 50 times if glass. If you buy an entire crate of drinks, you can just return the crate with the bottles inside and the crate itself has about 3€ deposit too. I think this system works and anything below an industrial scale wouldn’t. However, many people continue to buy the PET bottles with 0,25€ deposit because it’s cheaper and available in discount stores too. These get shredded and melted into new bottles. On a somewhat unrelated note, since this year many restaurants and cafes, even Burger King offer reusable coffee/soda/ice cream cups called Recup for 2€ deposit that you can return in any other participating store. Very convenient, since most cafes at the train station, many gas stations and all burger kings do this. Only mc Donald’s has its own version that can only be returned at other mc Donald’s. Sadly I see many people can’t be bothered to get these despite getting the 2€ back at return.
I've watched few videos about the topic and I must say that Sustainable Jungle's video feels like a warm hug into the sustainable life. I've always been trying to respect my environment and as a kid I've put my waste to bin, as a teenager I've tried to put my waste into correct bin and as an almost- thirty young adult I am trying to reduce the waste I create in general. Compared to other channels I follow, SJ fills me with hope rather than dread. I can leave a habitable planet behind, maybe a bit in rough shape but, our love can heal in each small step at a time. Much love from Turkey
I am thinking a lot about plastics in textiles and clothing. I feel people are easily swayed by the "green signalling" of biodegradable or organic fabrics and clothing, without considering these costs. In my home-sewing practice I would love to use biodegradable materials for everything (for comfort and health, mostly; also eventual disposal), but I am concerned about the environmental costs of their production, and I am skeptical that dyes and finishing are as healthy as we assume or hope. And, is an adequate composting facility available when they need to be disposed? Some of the alternatives I've come up with are: I only sew with surplus or re-circulated textiles. I source fabrics at social enterprise sellers of textile discards and deadstock, and I reuse fabric from damaged clothing, etc. I ahope that putting into use the discarded textiles that occupy my region has some virtue, as an alternative to shipping/trucking them further, incinerating them, or worse, burying them.Thinking of the long range, I also turn my family's textile waste (worn out clothing and towels, etc.) into fill for sturdy cushions (yoga cushions and dog beds, for instance). Eventually these will need to be discarded in a landfill but at least for a while longer they keep in local use a lot of un-usable materials. All in all, we are faced with a lot of unknowns and thus, tough choices... and maybe a few labour-intensive, time consuming alternatives. Thanks for challenging green mythology.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and efforts. Really that is fantastic. I think what you're doing, using materials, offcuts and the like that are already in circulation is the most sustainable option, even than buying organic or regenerative. The saving on all that upstream waste is massive. Seriously well done! Of course, this involves intention and follow through and there's not a lot of folks who are doing it but I really think that this example will show others what can and should be done (in all facets of life). Thank you again and best of luck with your home sewing practice!
I got a reusable plastic grocery bag in 2012 and I am still using it every week. However, the problem is, since I use reusable bag for my grocery shopping, I started to buy plastic garbage bags sometimes...
Well done on that INCREDIBLE effort! That's over 10 years WOW! Don't worry about the plastic garbage bag - that's actually the most eco option (apart from recycled plastic) if it's going to landfill.
maybe an odd example, but I work as a sterilization tech in a lab, and I definitely advocate for glass in that context. I can wash a beaker or pipet 1,000 times over, some of the bottles still say "manufactured in West Germany" and get used weekly. they do the job just as well as their plastic alternatives, which often cannot be reused and are melted in the sterilizer, then sent to landfill. when you account for production, shipping cost, packaging, and waste, it seems like there is a clear choice to be made in favor of glassware.
Interesting fact in regards to production impact on CO2 I learnt from a Greenpeace founder is that the at the moment there is 400 parts per million of CO2 in our atmosphere. In previous history it has been over 2,000. If it goes below 150 all the vegetation dies. I think CO2 is overblown and pollution is our major issue.
Very good question and one I haven't looked into. It would depend on the lifecycle analysis of clay and ceramic emissions pov. End of life definitely way better but carbon emissions - not sure! I am inclined to say clay and ceramic if you can make it last a looong time but have no data to back that up.
Also we don't need to use wood pulp, and why not move towards materials like jute etc? Why are we limited in our perspectives of how to diversify our production into more sustainable alternatives.
@@KadhaiMurgiyou have to understand the pulp industry is just the second half of the lumber industry. Logs get trimmed down to be milled into 2x4, 2x6, 6x6 etc. That still leaves a pile of bark, off cuts, wood chips and sawdust behind. Those materials are turned into plywood, osb, sent to pulp mills or turned into pellets / hog fuel for boilers. If you get rid of pulp mills you’re just going to burn more scrap to generate electricity. Surprisingly, lumber mills operate as efficiently as they possibly can.
(1) there's no way this is paid for; look how few subs he has. large companies don't bother with smaller creators. (2) that's kind of what he suggested, but he also acknowledged that it's more complicated than that. nothing wrong with exploring that complicated part a little bit. you didn't watch the whole video and that's ok
@@queencabbage3689 Thanks for replying Queen. Yep can safely say we weren't paid by the plastic industry 🤣 in fact we earned a big fat nothing from making this video. I'm definitely in favour of eliminating plastic, and if they have to be replaced with something then materials that overall are better for the environment.
I like our system in Germany for glass bottles. They get refilled over and over again until their quality degrades and they get recycled. Most people prefer their beer in glass bottles anyways, which is great. The plastic bottles have a 0,25€ deposit, the refillable plastic ones less and the glass ones only 0,08€.
That's so cool. Where do you go to fill them up? Or does every store have the refill option?
@@sustainablejungle nah, it’s on an industrial scale. These collected bottles get washed and go to the drinks producers to be reused.
@@sustainablejungle detail answer: The factories that make drinks, local but also global ones like Coca Cola do this. People have a choice between single use PET, the reusable harder plastic or glass. The bottles get thoroughly cleaned and the labels taken off and then a machine scans them for wear and tear. Then they get refilled with new caps placed on them. One bottle can be reused up to 25 times if plastic and up to 50 times if glass.
If you buy an entire crate of drinks, you can just return the crate with the bottles inside and the crate itself has about 3€ deposit too.
I think this system works and anything below an industrial scale wouldn’t. However, many people continue to buy the PET bottles with 0,25€ deposit because it’s cheaper and available in discount stores too. These get shredded and melted into new bottles.
On a somewhat unrelated note, since this year many restaurants and cafes, even Burger King offer reusable coffee/soda/ice cream cups called Recup for 2€ deposit that you can return in any other participating store. Very convenient, since most cafes at the train station, many gas stations and all burger kings do this. Only mc Donald’s has its own version that can only be returned at other mc Donald’s. Sadly I see many people can’t be bothered to get these despite getting the 2€ back at return.
@@sunnyskies3707 Still super useful! Far better than melting down and starting from scratch!
I've watched few videos about the topic and I must say that Sustainable Jungle's video feels like a warm hug into the sustainable life. I've always been trying to respect my environment and as a kid I've put my waste to bin, as a teenager I've tried to put my waste into correct bin and as an almost- thirty young adult I am trying to reduce the waste I create in general. Compared to other channels I follow, SJ fills me with hope rather than dread. I can leave a habitable planet behind, maybe a bit in rough shape but, our love can heal in each small step at a time.
Much love from Turkey
So glad to hear it! That really means a lot - thank you! And I totally agree with your sentiments ❤
I am thinking a lot about plastics in textiles and clothing. I feel people are easily swayed by the "green signalling" of biodegradable or organic fabrics and clothing, without considering these costs. In my home-sewing practice I would love to use biodegradable materials for everything (for comfort and health, mostly; also eventual disposal), but I am concerned about the environmental costs of their production, and I am skeptical that dyes and finishing are as healthy as we assume or hope. And, is an adequate composting facility available when they need to be disposed? Some of the alternatives I've come up with are: I only sew with surplus or re-circulated textiles. I source fabrics at social enterprise sellers of textile discards and deadstock, and I reuse fabric from damaged clothing, etc. I ahope that putting into use the discarded textiles that occupy my region has some virtue, as an alternative to shipping/trucking them further, incinerating them, or worse, burying them.Thinking of the long range, I also turn my family's textile waste (worn out clothing and towels, etc.) into fill for sturdy cushions (yoga cushions and dog beds, for instance). Eventually these will need to be discarded in a landfill but at least for a while longer they keep in local use a lot of un-usable materials. All in all, we are faced with a lot of unknowns and thus, tough choices... and maybe a few labour-intensive, time consuming alternatives. Thanks for challenging green mythology.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and efforts. Really that is fantastic. I think what you're doing, using materials, offcuts and the like that are already in circulation is the most sustainable option, even than buying organic or regenerative. The saving on all that upstream waste is massive. Seriously well done! Of course, this involves intention and follow through and there's not a lot of folks who are doing it but I really think that this example will show others what can and should be done (in all facets of life). Thank you again and best of luck with your home sewing practice!
This was very thought provoking. I knew the issue wasn't simple, black/white, but this has made me think. I appreciate that.
Thank you for your kind words! I wish it was more simple tbh.
I got a reusable plastic grocery bag in 2012 and I am still using it every week. However, the problem is, since I use reusable bag for my grocery shopping, I started to buy plastic garbage bags sometimes...
Well done on that INCREDIBLE effort! That's over 10 years WOW! Don't worry about the plastic garbage bag - that's actually the most eco option (apart from recycled plastic) if it's going to landfill.
maybe an odd example, but I work as a sterilization tech in a lab, and I definitely advocate for glass in that context. I can wash a beaker or pipet 1,000 times over, some of the bottles still say "manufactured in West Germany" and get used weekly. they do the job just as well as their plastic alternatives, which often cannot be reused and are melted in the sterilizer, then sent to landfill. when you account for production, shipping cost, packaging, and waste, it seems like there is a clear choice to be made in favor of glassware.
Interesting fact in regards to production impact on CO2 I learnt from a Greenpeace founder is that the at the moment there is 400 parts per million of CO2 in our atmosphere. In previous history it has been over 2,000. If it goes below 150 all the vegetation dies. I think CO2 is overblown and pollution is our major issue.
Very interesting stat! Thank you for sharing!
Aren’t wicker baskets viable?
Possibly clay or ceramic?
Very good question and one I haven't looked into. It would depend on the lifecycle analysis of clay and ceramic emissions pov. End of life definitely way better but carbon emissions - not sure! I am inclined to say clay and ceramic if you can make it last a looong time but have no data to back that up.
Did not expect to hear my accent on a sustainability video of all things
Hello fellow safa!
Our production methods need to evolve but plastic's long term negatives balance against the higher carbon footprint of paper/alternatives
Also we don't need to use wood pulp, and why not move towards materials like jute etc? Why are we limited in our perspectives of how to diversify our production into more sustainable alternatives.
Short term negatives of non plastic production are outweighed by reusability and lack of toxic seepage
@@KadhaiMurgiyou have to understand the pulp industry is just the second half of the lumber industry.
Logs get trimmed down to be milled into 2x4, 2x6, 6x6 etc. That still leaves a pile of bark, off cuts, wood chips and sawdust behind. Those materials are turned into plywood, osb, sent to pulp mills or turned into pellets / hog fuel for boilers. If you get rid of pulp mills you’re just going to burn more scrap to generate electricity.
Surprisingly, lumber mills operate as efficiently as they possibly can.
@@KadhaiMurgi This is a very good point!
Very helpful information.
hai laiyil laik yur aksnt broh lekker naice
Just eliminate plastic.
This stinks like more industry paid for bullshit.
(1) there's no way this is paid for; look how few subs he has. large companies don't bother with smaller creators. (2) that's kind of what he suggested, but he also acknowledged that it's more complicated than that. nothing wrong with exploring that complicated part a little bit. you didn't watch the whole video and that's ok
@@queencabbage3689 Thanks for replying Queen. Yep can safely say we weren't paid by the plastic industry 🤣 in fact we earned a big fat nothing from making this video. I'm definitely in favour of eliminating plastic, and if they have to be replaced with something then materials that overall are better for the environment.
I can help, I work @______. Where Single Use Plastic is Born. It’s ramping up (Like this Month & The Next) Mandatory Minimum OT to keep up w/Demand.
Someone forgot to configure their bot lmao
@@angrypotyeto9656 Ye, not sure how this is relevant to the video 🤷♂😅