This was super helpful, especially the advice to research and intern in the legal field before applying to law school! That’s what I did and it was one of the reasons I ended up not going to law school.
Great vid sis! As a lawyer of a dozen years, I cosign this. The profession & schooling is wonderful. Learning to think like a lawyer and honing analytical skills is the best thing about being a lawyer. Most attorney dissatisfaction is due to the cost of the education & ensuing debts. People end up taking jobs that pay more to try to pay the loans off, but those jobs are stressful. These firms and clients are not paying you a ton of money to sit on your @$$. The deadlines, the infinite amount of mistakes that can be made, the client requirements, the deadlines, dealing with opposing counsel, dealing with Judicial officials, the emergencies, the conflicts, the billing requirements . . . People that typically end up as Public sector lifers are those who usually come from well off backgrounds and/or who do not have issues with debt. Statistically, the attorneys that are happier and have longer-term careers usually work for themselves. That way, they don't feel too overworked, they don't feel too undervalued, and they know where all the money is going and coming from. As a semi related note, third year of law school is a waste on most occasions. All the important courses you need to prepare for your bar exam can be done within the first two years. Law schools need to either do away with a third-year completely, or make it a mandatory practicum year where attorneys are forced to do either externships or internships. For most people, regardless of what you learn in school, there is no better teacher than practice and experience. Finally, the percentage of people that actually qualify for student loan forgiveness are very far and few in between from a statistical standpoint. It's not a bad profession if it is done and entered into correctly. But it is very rare that a person going into law school has the foresight to know what their career prospects and the financial repercussions are going to be. The only people that are able to see this perspective are those who come from families with lawyers in them or who are in some way connected to lawyers. Best of luck to you all.
I love your transparency on this topic! Not a lot of people will consider these things before they commit to law school and I think you bring up a lot of good points on how to really decide on whether or not law school was worth it. Also, it's crazy that there's such a huge range for the salary depending on where you work!
This was great! I second the advice on taking a gap year. I thought I wanted to do family law, but I ended up finding a job in business immigration after graduation. It’s been 4 years, and I want to stay in this field after law school. Also, there is no rush to practice! Whether or not you start at 22 or 28, you’ll probably still practice for decades. The thing is with a gap year, you’ll most likely have a better understanding of what you want to do, and how to get there. At first, I regretted not going to law school right after undergrad. I also felt like I was “behind” when my classmates graduated from law school a few years ago. Now I’m thankful I didn’t go after undergrad. I wouldn’t have taken the LSAT as seriously as I needed to, and I would have just went to the best school I could get into. Now, my plan is to get as high of a score as I can, and pay as little as possible for law school. I’m also hoping that my experience will give me an advantage when I apply for summer associate jobs. I don’t know how it’s all going to work out, but I feel like I’m more prepared for the experience than I would have been 5 years ago. Again, there’s no rush, and you’re not “behind”.
Yess y’all I am in accounting and don’t have any debt n it’s a lil prestigious (at age 23F) but I hate accounting and it’s stressful and I want love in my life. Career is not my priority and women need to really think who they want to be at 30.
I’m turning 19 years old and I feel like it’s ridiculous that I have to choose my life career at 19 .. I’ve always wanted to be a lawyer since high school but I’m really stuck in what type of law is for me ..
Try working or interning part-time for a law firm or legal department. Talk to other young lawyers in your area or contact law schools nearby to see if you can talk to law students. Good luck!
THANK YOU!!!! You have no idea how many attorneys I have asked to talk about this on their platform! You can google like you said, "the average" of what an attorney makes, and it's not always accurate like for an assistant district attorney. This is real, this is honest and this is perfect content. Thank you so much for your honesty, for being real!
I have been out of law school for two years (licensed &c.) and *everything* you said is correct. For some context I went to a good tier 2 state school on a full tuition scholarship and *still* graduated law school with $75,000 in debt (after the interest was capitalized). I went to law school because I was a clever humanities major and wasn't sure what to do with my life. I got some well meaning but in hindsight terrible advice from some professors to go to law school. The difference between the name brand law schools and lower ranked law schools comes in how good the on campus interview process is. At my school, career services was not helpful and there weren't enough firms doing OCI. Maybe 5 or 10 of my classmates got jobs through OCI in a class of ~150. Many of my peers took clerkships if only to give them another year to get a firm job. After law school I... did not have a job lined up. I did doc review for a few months to pay the bills. Then I spent a a little time in a small firm. The firm was the perfect combination of bad lawyering and *very* bad ethics so I got out rather than risk my license. Now I work for my local legal services organization as a housing attorney. I make $65K a year, it was $60 but my union (I am in a union!) just got us a raise literally 2 weeks ago. My job (in normal times) is 60% talking on the phone with clients, 20% writing demand letters and 20% going to court. In normal times I am on my feet more than most attorneys and I only average 1.5 days in court a week. Though with *gestures at world* the housing courts in my jurisdiction are closed.
Thank you for being so transparent! I think so many of us were sold the dream of being an attorney without anyone honestly breaking down what happens post graduation. Same as you, I didn't have a job at graduation but secured a job once I got my bar results a few months later. My hope is that prospective students do their full research before taking out these ridiculous loans. Are you doing PSLF?
@@AllegedlyStephanie I am not. While I am not planning on jumping ship immediately, especially with the pandemic, I am not planning on sticking out the whole 10 years. I do eventually want to get into private practice. As for my loans, I have been paying them down pretty aggressively by budgeting for them. I live walking distance to my office in an apartment that is (somehow) below the HUD market rates for my area. Good luck with your loans!
@@CarlLevitt Your story could have been a lot worse. I am sure that many of your classmates are not practicing law, and never will. I am a busy solo, and I run into unemployed and underemployed lawyers all the time. They usually sing the same sad song: they mumble about "part-time work for the public defender's office/temporary document review jobs for $22 per hour/pro bono work for the local women's shelter." But the word about the law school scam was out a decade ago, and even before them, so it is hard for me to sympathize with their bad choices, and outcomes.
A lot of law students have no idea, no freaking idea, what the heck they are getting themselves into. They babble about becoming Navy JAG lawyers like the folks on that TV show, and that Tom Cruise movie. Well, factually, the U.S. navy did hire a bunch of lawyers recently--20 JAG lawyers in a calendar year. 20 jobs in a nation with over 320 million people. That means, that year, if you were in law school, not only would you not get one of those jobs--your odds of winning 10K in the lottery were much better--but not one single person in your entire state would get such a job. In fact, mathematically speaking, you would have to go through three entire states before it became likely that 1 (ONE) person got a NAVY JAG job that year. And those jobs aren't even particularly well-paying. . .
Great point about the averages vs. the mean! It really is very different. I love you discussed looking into specific career choices within the field of lawyers & highlighted the salary of the first 1-5 years to get a better sense! This is honestly really helpful information for any career choice! Really really helpful information!!!
Thanks Katie!! Hoping to start a conversation about how in today's society we spend so much time at work but don't intentionally choose the work/career.
Absolutely great points! I think you were referring to the median, which is a better representation of what people are likely to make (as you stated in the video).
I am not a lawyer and I was never considering it but your tips are so helpful to anyone embarking on a new journey in their lives - whether it is education or just making the next life decision. We forget to truly think through the options and weigh out whether it is worth it. I loved to hear you say the point consider the mean not the average which is so true. I am studying a masters that's $100k in tuition and I wish I had considered the salary prospects a little bit more before.
Great vid, thanks for the honesty. I paid off 150k of law school + MBA debt (100k principal, 50k interest) in 5 years. Luckily I opted to attend a T30 with a large scholarship instead of a T14. Otherwise, would have been really bad.
I just wanted to say thank you again Stephanie. I have looked up certain words that was in Kanye's contract that I never heard. Stephanie, you talked about it and broke it down. My resource book is coming together. 😊👍🏽
Thoroughly enjoy your content. It's fun, you speak your truth and you are so inspiring for young and old, I am much older person, but I love to hear different points of view. I totally agree with you, why should a young person be saddle with all this debt, it's illogical. Once again, great content.
Great video with great advice! I just discovered your channel and I'm loving your content! You're super smart and I appreciate your honesty and frankness! I hope your channel blows up so you can quit your job (if that's what you want)!
I was thinking about going to law school to become a tribal attorney to get back on with my Tribe, however it doesn’t seem conducive to the economy an I’d only be doing it for personal reasons. But great commentary!!
KittyEars&Headbands Thanks for your input! Much appreciated 😊 Unfortunately I cannot go to the tribe- my family was dis enrolled an Tribes operator under sovereignty... an so they would not offer any financial assistance- additionally- Tribal Law isn’t very popular among aspiring attorneys, therefore if have to procure the cost entirely.
Love this content. You asked what law school content I want, but I love finance and fitness much more than law-related stuff. Love your content so far though, it seems much less preach-y than others and very real.
@@AllegedlyStephanie I was thinking a video about your side hustle would be cool. Or side hustles generally, but also talking specifically about how you are doing legal advising on the side.
Love your channel! In school currently pursuing my law degree. If you feel comfortable, would love to see a video on how much entertainment lawyers make. Working in house at a label or otherwise.
Thank you girl girl. I wanted to get into Law but Looked and music and got hooked on the keyboard and engineering. Love what you do and consider yourself retired. :)
@@aalegalfocus Ha, I guess you don't know very many physicians. Just ask all the docs were laid off or had salaries cut during the pandemic. Or ask family medicine docs, or many pediatric subspecialists, who can barely break 6 figures. 90K is a decent salary overall, but not if you're half million in debt and sacrificed a decade of your youth. Travel nurses make as much as doctors these days. Not that I'm complaining, the nurses totally deserve it. And we do too.
I am in the process of applying grad school for a master's degree. I had consider a dual degree with law but every lawyer I worked with said don't do it. I like the list I am going to do that. I am not going back for law but I am still interested in taking certain law classes for the knowledge.
After undergrad I took 2 years off to have and raise my son up some before starting law school. I got a job at a law firm and it definitely opened my eyes and gave me confirmation that law is something I want to do. I think if I never got a job in the law field , I would’ve never gotten the confirmation I needed and would’ve been in law school for the wrong reasons, without the drive that I have now.
Hi Wine and Chill 😊 This is such an excellent channel. Would you consider speaking on the following topics: A) The possibility of training to challenge the bar exam (excuse my language if it’s incorrect) Vs actually attending law school B) How to choose a law school/ personality types best suited for the profession ( If you haven’t touched on these ideas already) Kudos to you for all your hard work! !
Loved this video and you energy! Such great honest and simple considerations that really eliminated a lot of the clutter in my head on what I should do for a career. Thank you!
I work at a large law firm in the IT department and yes it is true that in general the attorneys are miserable and high strung. I noticed this very shortly after starting the position. They are also entitled and sometimes treat staff like crap. I never considered being an attorney but after my experience at a law firm I'm SUPER glad I didn't.
I took a gap year before grad school and it was the best decision i could have made and i didn't even realize it. I took the year off because I had (thankfully) been rejected by the school i had applied right out of school. I did a volunteer opportunity and worked during that year and by the time I applied again, I knew what I wanted and how much debt i was willing to get into that i only applied to one school. I got wait listed but thankfully i got the acceptance around May and started that August. Like you said, a lot of those decisions are often made by other people who have our best interest in mind but don't realize that their kids might not be good fits for that.
Just found your channel and I love the advice you give in this video! I'm currently in my second year of law school, studying in Australia, and it's interesting seeing how studying/working in law works over there compared to here. Would love to see more videos of you giving advice and talking about your experience either studying or working in law :)
As a Canadian-trained lawyer, I can tell you that the fees to attend law school are just ridiculous. I know American law schools gauge their students even more so than Canadian law schools which is so sad. Costs really are important to consider though...
That's not too bad compared to what a lot of law students take out for 3 years of law school. Plus you will likely make more than half of the law graduates. And you will really be helping people in a meaningful way.
The implications of a negative feel for a profession can definitely take a toll resulting in long term underlying health conditions. I wish people would see the results of the bad not just the good to make a solid decision of the profession they would choose especially since most people input a lot of time and money into it like college and internships.
I thought I wanted to be a lawyer. Being a legal assistant changed that for me. Lol. Glad I stopped at a BA and continued studying things that feed my soul.
First I would say I appreciate your page. I asked this question on your other post, so sorry for the duplicate question. Is there a music law school or alternative you would suggest for someone interested in music law?
LO KEY thanks for watching! Every law school has the same classes first year and then the next two years you can choose a variety of electives depending on the school. US News & Hollywood Reporter put out a list of top law schools with the best entertainment curriculum every year, as it changes from year to year. Would definitely suggest interning/working in the music industry first before making the full commitment to law school.
I am 43 going into my 2L single, no kids and no other debt besides students loans. I am already live on my own over 25 years. I am not sure how I will paid it back. I will come up with a plan. I am becoming a lawyer it been a passion of my since I was like 5 years old. Just depending on God with these students loans
@@AllegedlyStephanie Thank you for your video btw. It is very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to discuss the topic so thoroughly as well. I'm a 1L in an aba accredited school. But I've decided to transfer to an online non-aba California law school. I don't' intent to practice or sit for the Cali bar. It's nice having legal knowledge in business though. It will save me a ton of money too!
I think so. I feel like the saving grace of a legal career is that if you're over it you can pivot into something else since being a lawyer requires a lot of skills outside of just the law aspect. My guess is we'll see her in a career she loves soon!
You’re awesome. Keep up the great work with the channel. I’m not affiliated with the legal profession in any way. I just come for the witty banter and wise commentary.
My parents paid for law school but it still didn't change that fact that the job market was not good. The ranking of your law school and your class ranking are a lot more important than having a free ride.
@@aalegalfocus HI Judy. One thing that needs to be pointed out is that law school rankings are only relevant to the extent that they serve as a reflection of poorer rates of employment and bar passage. There are some low-ranked law schools that have excellent employment outcomes because of regional characteristics. The University of Montana and the University of West Virginia are two examples. I think that too many people put emphasis on where they want to practice and other soft factors when choosing a law school. But three hard factors need to be taken into consideration at all times and especially when choosing a lower-ranked law school. Those are cost, employment outcomes, and bar passage rates.
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This was super helpful, especially the advice to research and intern in the legal field before applying to law school! That’s what I did and it was one of the reasons I ended up not going to law school.
Chelsea Williamson that’s because you my dear are smart!
Great vid sis! As a lawyer of a dozen years, I cosign this. The profession & schooling is wonderful. Learning to think like a lawyer and honing analytical skills is the best thing about being a lawyer. Most attorney dissatisfaction is due to the cost of the education & ensuing debts. People end up taking jobs that pay more to try to pay the loans off, but those jobs are stressful. These firms and clients are not paying you a ton of money to sit on your @$$. The deadlines, the infinite amount of mistakes that can be made, the client requirements, the deadlines, dealing with opposing counsel, dealing with Judicial officials, the emergencies, the conflicts, the billing requirements . . . People that typically end up as Public sector lifers are those who usually come from well off backgrounds and/or who do not have issues with debt. Statistically, the attorneys that are happier and have longer-term careers usually work for themselves. That way, they don't feel too overworked, they don't feel too undervalued, and they know where all the money is going and coming from. As a semi related note, third year of law school is a waste on most occasions. All the important courses you need to prepare for your bar exam can be done within the first two years. Law schools need to either do away with a third-year completely, or make it a mandatory practicum year where attorneys are forced to do either externships or internships. For most people, regardless of what you learn in school, there is no better teacher than practice and experience. Finally, the percentage of people that actually qualify for student loan forgiveness are very far and few in between from a statistical standpoint. It's not a bad profession if it is done and entered into correctly. But it is very rare that a person going into law school has the foresight to know what their career prospects and the financial repercussions are going to be. The only people that are able to see this perspective are those who come from families with lawyers in them or who are in some way connected to lawyers. Best of luck to you all.
I love your transparency on this topic! Not a lot of people will consider these things before they commit to law school and I think you bring up a lot of good points on how to really decide on whether or not law school was worth it. Also, it's crazy that there's such a huge range for the salary depending on where you work!
France - Personal Finance & Student Loan Debt the salary range is what gets people the most I think!
This was great! I second the advice on taking a gap year. I thought I wanted to do family law, but I ended up finding a job in business immigration after graduation. It’s been 4 years, and I want to stay in this field after law school. Also, there is no rush to practice! Whether or not you start at 22 or 28, you’ll probably still practice for decades. The thing is with a gap year, you’ll most likely have a better understanding of what you want to do, and how to get there. At first, I regretted not going to law school right after undergrad. I also felt like I was “behind” when my classmates graduated from law school a few years ago. Now I’m thankful I didn’t go after undergrad. I wouldn’t have taken the LSAT as seriously as I needed to, and I would have just went to the best school I could get into. Now, my plan is to get as high of a score as I can, and pay as little as possible for law school. I’m also hoping that my experience will give me an advantage when I apply for summer associate jobs. I don’t know how it’s all going to work out, but I feel like I’m more prepared for the experience than I would have been 5 years ago. Again, there’s no rush, and you’re not “behind”.
Thank you Natalia for sharing your path!
Yess y’all I am in accounting and don’t have any debt n it’s a lil prestigious (at age 23F) but I hate accounting and it’s stressful and I want love in my life. Career is not my priority and women need to really think who they want to be at 30.
Rachel Williams you’re ahead of the game by not having any loans 👏🏽 and ahead in life in general by realizing what you want to prioritize!
I made my 'Why I Want 2B a Lawyer" list because of your video. I'm a JD/MBA candidate starting Fall22! Thanks for great content.
How did you do? Did you like it and what are your job prospects now?
@@Boc3phu5 It's a 4 year program, so still this year and next year to go. I am finding that I have some reasonable prospects including JD advantage.
I’m turning 19 years old and I feel like it’s ridiculous that I have to choose my life career at 19 .. I’ve always wanted to be a lawyer since high school but I’m really stuck in what type of law is for me ..
Try working or interning part-time for a law firm or legal department. Talk to other young lawyers in your area or contact law schools nearby to see if you can talk to law students. Good luck!
Thanks for watching! Feel free to let me know any law school or career questions you have!
THANK YOU!!!! You have no idea how many attorneys I have asked to talk about this on their platform! You can google like you said, "the average" of what an attorney makes, and it's not always accurate like for an assistant district attorney. This is real, this is honest and this is perfect content. Thank you so much for your honesty, for being real!
You’re welcome! Happy to help demystify the legal field a bit 💛
I have been out of law school for two years (licensed &c.) and *everything* you said is correct. For some context I went to a good tier 2 state school on a full tuition scholarship and *still* graduated law school with $75,000 in debt (after the interest was capitalized). I went to law school because I was a clever humanities major and wasn't sure what to do with my life. I got some well meaning but in hindsight terrible advice from some professors to go to law school.
The difference between the name brand law schools and lower ranked law schools comes in how good the on campus interview process is. At my school, career services was not helpful and there weren't enough firms doing OCI. Maybe 5 or 10 of my classmates got jobs through OCI in a class of ~150. Many of my peers took clerkships if only to give them another year to get a firm job.
After law school I... did not have a job lined up. I did doc review for a few months to pay the bills. Then I spent a a little time in a small firm. The firm was the perfect combination of bad lawyering and *very* bad ethics so I got out rather than risk my license. Now I work for my local legal services organization as a housing attorney. I make $65K a year, it was $60 but my union (I am in a union!) just got us a raise literally 2 weeks ago. My job (in normal times) is 60% talking on the phone with clients, 20% writing demand letters and 20% going to court. In normal times I am on my feet more than most attorneys and I only average 1.5 days in court a week. Though with *gestures at world* the housing courts in my jurisdiction are closed.
Thank you for being so transparent! I think so many of us were sold the dream of being an attorney without anyone honestly breaking down what happens post graduation. Same as you, I didn't have a job at graduation but secured a job once I got my bar results a few months later. My hope is that prospective students do their full research before taking out these ridiculous loans. Are you doing PSLF?
@@AllegedlyStephanie I am not. While I am not planning on jumping ship immediately, especially with the pandemic, I am not planning on sticking out the whole 10 years. I do eventually want to get into private practice.
As for my loans, I have been paying them down pretty aggressively by budgeting for them. I live walking distance to my office in an apartment that is (somehow) below the HUD market rates for my area.
Good luck with your loans!
Carl Levitt we’ll get there one extra payment at a time!
@@CarlLevitt Your story could have been a lot worse. I am sure that many of your classmates are not practicing law, and never will. I am a busy solo, and I run into unemployed and underemployed lawyers all the time. They usually sing the same sad song: they mumble about "part-time work for the public defender's office/temporary document review jobs for $22 per hour/pro bono work for the local women's shelter." But the word about the law school scam was out a decade ago, and even before them, so it is hard for me to sympathize with their bad choices, and outcomes.
A lot of law students have no idea, no freaking idea, what the heck they are getting themselves into. They babble about becoming Navy JAG lawyers like the folks on that TV show, and that Tom Cruise movie. Well, factually, the U.S. navy did hire a bunch of lawyers recently--20 JAG lawyers in a calendar year. 20 jobs in a nation with over 320 million people. That means, that year, if you were in law school, not only would you not get one of those jobs--your odds of winning 10K in the lottery were much better--but not one single person in your entire state would get such a job. In fact, mathematically speaking, you would have to go through three entire states before it became likely that 1 (ONE) person got a NAVY JAG job that year. And those jobs aren't even particularly well-paying. . .
I'm currently in law School in Jamaica and girl what you are saying is spot on . Love this
Love to see fellow yardies doing well 🖤💚💛
Great point about the averages vs. the mean! It really is very different. I love you discussed looking into specific career choices within the field of lawyers & highlighted the salary of the first 1-5 years to get a better sense! This is honestly really helpful information for any career choice! Really really helpful information!!!
Thanks Katie!! Hoping to start a conversation about how in today's society we spend so much time at work but don't intentionally choose the work/career.
Absolutely great points! I think you were referring to the median, which is a better representation of what people are likely to make (as you stated in the video).
Yes, the median!
What really shocks me is how big the pay range can be!! - Thanks for the vid it was great just subscribed coming from France channel!!
Thanks for subscribing!
I am not a lawyer and I was never considering it but your tips are so helpful to anyone embarking on a new journey in their lives - whether it is education or just making the next life decision. We forget to truly think through the options and weigh out whether it is worth it. I loved to hear you say the point consider the mean not the average which is so true. I am studying a masters that's $100k in tuition and I wish I had considered the salary prospects a little bit more before.
Great vid, thanks for the honesty. I paid off 150k of law school + MBA debt (100k principal, 50k interest) in 5 years. Luckily I opted to attend a T30 with a large scholarship instead of a T14. Otherwise, would have been really bad.
I just wanted to say thank you again Stephanie. I have looked up certain words that was in Kanye's contract that I never heard. Stephanie, you talked about it and broke it down. My resource book is coming together. 😊👍🏽
Happy that the video was helpful!
Thoroughly enjoy your content. It's fun, you speak your truth and you are so inspiring for young and old, I am much older person, but I love to hear different points of view. I totally agree with you, why should a young person be saddle with all this debt, it's illogical. Once again, great content.
aw thank you for watching!
Great video with great advice! I just discovered your channel and I'm loving your content! You're super smart and I appreciate your honesty and frankness! I hope your channel blows up so you can quit your job (if that's what you want)!
aww thank you!! Goal for now is to pay off Sallie Mae 😩
I was thinking about going to law school to become a tribal attorney to get back on with my Tribe, however it doesn’t seem conducive to the economy an I’d only be doing it for personal reasons. But great commentary!!
Thanks for watching!
KittyEars&Headbands Thanks for your input! Much appreciated 😊 Unfortunately I cannot go to the tribe- my family was dis enrolled an Tribes operator under sovereignty... an so they would not offer any financial assistance- additionally- Tribal Law isn’t very popular among aspiring attorneys, therefore if have to procure the cost entirely.
Wine n' Chill the pleasure was all mine! 😊 thx u for this vital information
Awww, bless your heart Claudette!
Love this content. You asked what law school content I want, but I love finance and fitness much more than law-related stuff. Love your content so far though, it seems much less preach-y than others and very real.
Thanks for watching! For the finance content, I'm thinking about doing a budget video and will of course be keeping up w/ the student loan series
@@AllegedlyStephanie I was thinking a video about your side hustle would be cool. Or side hustles generally, but also talking specifically about how you are doing legal advising on the side.
Healthy Xalimo Haven’t taken on many clients lately since I’ve been busy but can definitely do a side hustle video!
Love your channel! In school currently pursuing my law degree. If you feel comfortable, would love to see a video on how much entertainment lawyers make. Working in house at a label or otherwise.
Thanks for watching! That's a great idea, happy to walk everyone through typical attorney salaries as they range quite a bit!
Wine n' Chill wish you well! Thank you
Thank you girl girl. I wanted to get into Law but Looked and music and got hooked on the keyboard and engineering. Love what you do and consider yourself retired. :)
Great advice. Also applies to med school. And that's four years of your life and four years of debt....
Although you never hear of unemployed/underemployed M.D.s and they have higher earning potential.
@@aalegalfocus Ha, I guess you don't know very many physicians. Just ask all the docs were laid off or had salaries cut during the pandemic. Or ask family medicine docs, or many pediatric subspecialists, who can barely break 6 figures. 90K is a decent salary overall, but not if you're half million in debt and sacrificed a decade of your youth. Travel nurses make as much as doctors these days. Not that I'm complaining, the nurses totally deserve it. And we do too.
Glad I took the full ride from a lower ranked law school
I am in the process of applying grad school for a master's degree. I had consider a dual degree with law but every lawyer I worked with said don't do it. I like the list I am going to do that. I am not going back for law but I am still interested in taking certain law classes for the knowledge.
After undergrad I took 2 years off to have and raise my son up some before starting law school. I got a job at a law firm and it definitely opened my eyes and gave me confirmation that law is something I want to do. I think if I never got a job in the law field , I would’ve never gotten the confirmation I needed and would’ve been in law school for the wrong reasons, without the drive that I have now.
That's excellent that you were able to work first in the legal field to make sure it was something you wanted to do. Have you graduated already?
Hi Wine and Chill 😊 This is such an excellent channel. Would you consider speaking on the following topics: A) The possibility of training to challenge the bar exam (excuse my language if it’s incorrect) Vs actually attending law school
B) How to choose a law school/ personality types best suited for the profession ( If you haven’t touched on these ideas already)
Kudos to you for all your hard work! !
Hi! I can definitely add both of these to my list 😊
Loved this video and you energy! Such great honest and simple considerations that really eliminated a lot of the clutter in my head on what I should do for a career. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I work at a large law firm in the IT department and yes it is true that in general the attorneys are miserable and high strung. I noticed this very shortly after starting the position. They are also entitled and sometimes treat staff like crap. I never considered being an attorney but after my experience at a law firm I'm SUPER glad I didn't.
Hope you can brush off the lousy behavior of the lawyers and still enjoy your job. I don't envy them.
I took a gap year before grad school and it was the best decision i could have made and i didn't even realize it. I took the year off because I had (thankfully) been rejected by the school i had applied right out of school. I did a volunteer opportunity and worked during that year and by the time I applied again, I knew what I wanted and how much debt i was willing to get into that i only applied to one school. I got wait listed but thankfully i got the acceptance around May and started that August. Like you said, a lot of those decisions are often made by other people who have our best interest in mind but don't realize that their kids might not be good fits for that.
This video was helpful. I’m in my last year of undergrad just realizing I hate my degree 😅but it’s too late to change now.
Love the transparency ❤
Just found your channel and I love the advice you give in this video! I'm currently in my second year of law school, studying in Australia, and it's interesting seeing how studying/working in law works over there compared to here. Would love to see more videos of you giving advice and talking about your experience either studying or working in law :)
As a Canadian-trained lawyer, I can tell you that the fees to attend law school are just ridiculous. I know American law schools gauge their students even more so than Canadian law schools which is so sad. Costs really are important to consider though...
Very true!
This should be mandatory for every student to watch. I'm a nursing student and my loans are about 24k a year for two years.😒
That's not too bad compared to what a lot of law students take out for 3 years of law school. Plus you will likely make more than half of the law graduates. And you will really be helping people in a meaningful way.
The implications of a negative feel for a profession can definitely take a toll resulting in long term underlying health conditions. I wish people would see the results of the bad not just the good to make a solid decision of the profession they would choose especially since most people input a lot of time and money into it like college and internships.
Completely agree!
Thank you so much for this!!!!
Thank you for your honest insights
I thought I wanted to be a lawyer. Being a legal assistant changed that for me. Lol. Glad I stopped at a BA and continued studying things that feed my soul.
this lady is so smart
Aw thanks!
First I would say I appreciate your page. I asked this question on your other post, so sorry for the duplicate question. Is there a music law school or alternative you would suggest for someone interested in music law?
LO KEY thanks for watching! Every law school has the same classes first year and then the next two years you can choose a variety of electives depending on the school. US News & Hollywood Reporter put out a list of top law schools with the best entertainment curriculum every year, as it changes from year to year. Would definitely suggest interning/working in the music industry first before making the full commitment to law school.
When you said “I ate a lot of sushi, I’m not going to lie” lmao. Can we be friends.
I love your channel
Duchess Of Essex aww thank you!!
Is there sound?
I'm a Licensed Nurse and I more then that.
I wish I stayed in school I dropped out in the 8th grade very bad decision
get your GED its not to late.
"Why do I want to be a lawyer? 1. I already borrowed the money."
🤣🤣🤣 I busted out laughing at that. I'm sorry.
I am 43 going into my 2L single, no kids and no other debt besides students loans. I am already live on my own over 25 years. I am not sure how I will paid it back. I will come up with a plan. I am becoming a lawyer it been a passion of my since I was like 5 years old. Just depending on God with these students loans
Either try to get a high paying job to pay down the debt, or do public interest law and hope for loan forgiveness. Good luck!
Can we get an update on things?
Can you do a video on your path to getting your first six figure job?
Yes of course! Will add that to the list :)
My plan is to get out of the military and go to law school I’d love to talk to you
Do you feel like you were able to help the human trafficking victims?
200k in debt sis? Um I’m becoming a stripper
🤣 🤣 🤣 listen you will get no judgment from me.
What website can we use to find the mean?
Glassdoor & Payscale do a decent job of allowing you to narrow your search by years of experience so you can find more accurate pay info.
Aparna seemed like she hated everything 🤣
Miss ma’am was having none of it at all 🤣
@@AllegedlyStephanie Thank you for your video btw. It is very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to discuss the topic so thoroughly as well. I'm a 1L in an aba accredited school. But I've decided to transfer to an online non-aba California law school. I don't' intent to practice or sit for the Cali bar. It's nice having legal knowledge in business though. It will save me a ton of money too!
What are you doing now?
Is there hope for Apurna ? (thx for the recommend)
I think so. I feel like the saving grace of a legal career is that if you're over it you can pivot into something else since being a lawyer requires a lot of skills outside of just the law aspect. My guess is we'll see her in a career she loves soon!
You’re awesome. Keep up the great work with the channel. I’m not affiliated with the legal profession in any way. I just come for the witty banter and wise commentary.
@@lubsey aw thank you!!
What if parents paid for law school?
My parents paid for law school but it still didn't change that fact that the job market was not good. The ranking of your law school and your class ranking are a lot more important than having a free ride.
@@aalegalfocus HI Judy. One thing that needs to be pointed out is that law school rankings are only relevant to the extent that they serve as a reflection of poorer rates of employment and bar passage. There are some low-ranked law schools that have excellent employment outcomes because of regional characteristics. The University of Montana and the University of West Virginia are two examples. I think that too many people put emphasis on where they want to practice and other soft factors when choosing a law school. But three hard factors need to be taken into consideration at all times and especially when choosing a lower-ranked law school. Those are cost, employment outcomes, and bar passage rates.
Girl, now if you’re going to talk about law school, you need to take out the tequila
300,000 ? Holy crap.
Rebecca Waychunas law school is highly overpriced 😖
lol "deranged" 😂