Orville Schell - Wealth and Power: China's Long March to the Twenty-First Century

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  • About the Book
    Through a series of absorbing portraits of iconic modern Chinese leaders and thinkers, two of today's foremost specialists on China provide a panoramic narrative of the nation's ascent from imperial doormat to global economic powerhouse in Wealth and Power: China's Long March to the Twenty-First Century (Random House).
    The basic facts of China's rise to preeminence over the past three decades are well documented, but how did this erstwhile sleeping giant finally manage to arrive at its current phase of dynamic growth? How, after such a long and painful period of dynastic decline, intellectual upheaval and revolution, foreign occupation and civil war, did a country once derided as the "sick man of Asia" manage to break out of its old pattern of repeatedly failed reform efforts to burst forth onto the world stage with such an impressive run of hyperdevelopment and wealth creation?
    By examining the lives of eleven influential officials, writers, activists, and leaders whose contributions helped create modern China, Wealth and Power addresses these questions. This survey begins in the lead-up to the first Opium War with Wei Yuan, the nineteenth-century scholar and reformer who was one of the first to urge China to borrow ideas from the West. It concludes in our time with human-rights advocate and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Liu Xiaobo, an outspoken opponent of single-party rule. Along the way, we meet such titans of Chinese history as the Empress Dowager Cixi, public intellectuals Feng Guifen, Liang Qichao, and Chen Duxiu, Nationalist stalwarts Sun Yat-sen and Chiang Kai-shek, and Communist Party leaders Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping, and Zhu Rongji.
    The common goal that unites all of these disparate figures is their determined pursuit of fuqiang 富强, shorthand for "wealth and power." This abiding quest for a restoration of national greatness in the face of a "century of humiliation" at the hands of the Great Powers came to define the modern Chinese character. It's what drove both Mao and Deng to embark on root-and-branch transformations of Chinese society, first by means of Marxism-Leninism, then by authoritarian capitalism. And this determined quest remains the key to understanding many of China's actions today.
    By unwrapping the intellectual antecedents of today's resurgent China, Orville Schell and John Delury supply much-needed insight into the country's tortured progression from nineteenth-century decline to twenty-first-century boom. By looking backward into the past to understand forces at work for hundreds of years, they help us understand China today and the future that this singular country is helping shape for all of us.
    Author
    Orville Schell, author of many books, studied Chinese history at Harvard and Berkeley and has written for many publications, including The Atlantic, The New Yorker, Time, Foreign Affairs,The New York Review of Books, Harper's, and The New York Times. Formerly dean of the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism, he is now the Arthur Ross Director of the Asia Society's Center on U.S.-China Relations in New York City. Schell is a member of the USC U.S.-China Institute's board of scholars.
    Discussants
    Geoffrey Cowan has long been an important force in education, communication, and public policy. Cowan became the first president of The Annenberg Foundation Trust at Sunnylands in 2010 and hosted the Xi Jinping/Barack Obama meeting there in June. Previously he was dean of the USC Annenberg School for a decade and headed the Voice of America during the Clinton administration. Cowan also heads the USC Annenberg Center on Communication Leadership and Policy. His co-authored play Top Secret has twice toured China.
    Clayton Dube has headed the USC U.S.-China Institute since it was established by USC President C.L. Nikias in 2006. Dube was trained as an economic historian, lived in China for five years and visited dozens of times. Dube's long been committed to informing public discussion about China and about the U.S.-China relationship. He oversees the institute's magazines and documentary efforts and writes the institute's Talking Points newsletter and earlier edited the academic journal Modern China.

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  • @chinhau8702
    @chinhau8702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cooperation is always
    Constructive ❤️

  • @philchinamusical
    @philchinamusical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Victimization is a handy tool for the ruling party/group. China is not the only one using it.
    100 years ago, Japan used the same tool to mobilise the whole country to fight two critical wars to establish their international place then.

  • @templardna
    @templardna 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    On the question of victimhood, I don't think westerners can or will ever understand the amount of humiliation European and Japanese invasion casted on the chinese as a civilization. If you don't know their history, their very long most time much longer than most western history, you'll never understand why chinese of this generation still feels that victimhood. "Chinese and dogs not allowed", those were on sign posts in the concessional areas invaded by the west. that's the kind of memory that motivates Chinese, and unless you have been so humiliated to the core as a civilization, you can't understand living with it.

    • @junkscience6397
      @junkscience6397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On the question of victimhood, are Chinese the victims or rather the AGRESSOR in Tibet? Are Chinese the victims or the AGGRESSORS in Xinjiang? How about out on those artificial islands Chinese promised the world would NEVER have weapons on...was that yet another Chinese LIE?? Of course it was! China's chauvenism is REAL, and Chinese STUPIDITY is driving all other nations together to COUNTER Chairman Winnie the Pooh...I mean, Xi's, AGGRESSION!

    • @kushastea3961
      @kushastea3961 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@junkscience6397 are jews the agressor in the middle east?

    • @randomuser1481
      @randomuser1481 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@junkscience6397 tibet has been part of Chinese territory since qing dynasty for 3 centuries. Was it invasion at the beginning? Of course. But you see, there has never been a sign of “tibetians and dogs not alowed” and Tibetians has always been treated as a member of Chinese family not as some kind of second class colonialized animals. Too many Westerners cannot even introspect for the colonialism for even one moment.

    • @homershrek635
      @homershrek635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@junkscience6397 from a fake Yankee's perspective, your genuine observations are certainly compelling! What did the USA do to her neighbors under the Monroe doctrine? What did the US do in Grenada, Panama, Iraque...? Or well, you are reaping benefit as a fake Yankee, so of course you are blabbing out of your assh*** 😁🤪🤣

  • @vincent4831
    @vincent4831 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fu qiang actually means people' living standing improved and the country becomes powerful and no one will invade us.

  • @2391jessie
    @2391jessie 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    46:00 Question from Xinhua news agency.........

  • @panshiun
    @panshiun 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am commissioned to translate this book inot traditional Chinese version. God. You just do not know how stunned I am upon finding so many factual mistakes in this so called "academical" book. I translate it from the Word file that literary agent offered. Hopefully those mistakes are corrected when the real books are published.

  • @dshengz
    @dshengz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:25 ‘ Mao was a tough son of a bitch.’

  • @chinhau8702
    @chinhau8702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    History+Democracy:
    Western lêns
    Eastern lêns
    Converging point:
    Symbiosis

  • @arthurriaf8052
    @arthurriaf8052 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Take Man of La Mancha to China. It's a compelling story.

  • @chinhau8702
    @chinhau8702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Revolution
    Against
    Their past

  • @Vladimir1918
    @Vladimir1918 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It doesn't matter. The world will remember it as Mao's Suit, not the other way around.
    Just like they remember Tofu and Go is, but never heard of Doufu and Weiqi.

  • @chinhau8702
    @chinhau8702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Constructive ❤️ destruction
    Versus
    Destructive contruction

  • @lexneuron
    @lexneuron 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is NOT "Mao's Suit". It is "Zhong Shan Suit," for it was designed by Dr. Sun Yat-sen, aka Sun Zhong Shan.

  • @dariomendoza6892
    @dariomendoza6892 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i agree completely with one of my fellow bloggers ,why can,t Chinese scholars discuss China? instead of these gentlemen my suspicion is to Disrespect the Chinese leadership and the Chinese culture!!!

  • @ellashy6539
    @ellashy6539 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 1st 2 mins really sum up about China this is so so true

    • @timothykwong8224
      @timothykwong8224 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ella Shy Ella Shy you are Ella Cute!

  • @2011sjw
    @2011sjw 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    .............................how about intellectuals in America "fighting the system"...........???

  • @philchinamusical
    @philchinamusical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One interesting thing about Mr. Schell is that:
    He pronounces Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping almost correctly every time.
    But he never pronounces "Jiang Jieshi" correctly. It's always as Chiang Kai-shek, and he stresses "k" specifically, when it's actually not in the Chinese pronunciation at all.
    My point is: it's telling me he didn't (get to) speak this name with people in mainland very much.

  • @johnhoward6393
    @johnhoward6393 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why can't we have Chinese scholars and experts discuss culture and history of China instead of Western "China Hands"?

    • @alloomis1635
      @alloomis1635 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      because westerners don't want to hear a different view. especially the rich and powerful don't want you to hear.

    • @basilecandelon292
      @basilecandelon292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because It is much easier for Westerners to understand what a Westerner (extremely well informed and knowledgeable because what he is saying is absolutely true) can say about China than what a Chinese can say. Being a westerner, Orville Schell understands what Westerners have trouble with and it is therefore much easier for Westerners to understand someone with the same cultural base. If you want to listen to Chinese scholars then do so, the internet can probably provide this to you. Plus, TH-cam is not allowed in China...

    • @tonysuthechineseguy
      @tonysuthechineseguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      "chinese expert" is used as a deragtory term in China

  • @aresaresares6669
    @aresaresares6669 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last guy asking the question looked like a joke -.-

    • @Stillblade
      @Stillblade 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i cringed watching him >_

  • @hansmenck
    @hansmenck 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listened to the first 17 mins and absolutely nothing got said, so good bye.

    • @kongkong1364
      @kongkong1364 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      nothing you want to hear

  • @KC-pm2mf
    @KC-pm2mf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ching dynasty was ruled by Mongolian, Mongolian invaded China and named itself as Ching dynasty.

  • @alloomis1635
    @alloomis1635 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the cultural revolution was not constructive, this guy has lost his mind. but mao did make today's china possible: very prosaically, he began educating every chinese, and bringing some health care and a sense of active participation to every chinese, a marvel for 90% of the nation.
    the great leap forward was a miscalculation, brought on by threats from the usa of nuclear devastation. mao suddenly realized that a giant national militia was powerless against and enemy whose goal was to exterminate the great cities of china. he tried, and failed, to bring technology quickly to bloom. many people died, as a result of diverting farm labor to resource production- 8,000,000 is the chinese estimate. i give him a free pass for that, he had a good reason.
    the cultural revolution was not well founded, and quickly out of control. the lashing out of a weak old man who didn't like the way things were going. the chinese are well aware of these matters, and still revere him for what he achieved. he was the giant of his time, warts and all.

    • @kushastea3961
      @kushastea3961 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      mao was afraid of corruption and he thought deng xiaoping would bring that. deng did bring that (guess who owns those naional banks), but he also brought other things like the economic reform. i think mao failed to realize that corruption is not a product of capitalism, but a product of human nature. to mao's credit, deng's policies made this state capitalism which could be very brutal if out of control. to deng's credit, now china is more wealthy with its markets opened up.

  • @user-em4dl5wv9n
    @user-em4dl5wv9n 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many fake news

  • @philchinamusical
    @philchinamusical 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The illusion of China being ruled by technocrats is totally wrong. Yes, they were educated as technicians and engineers. But once they joined the force, they must show loyalties to the party by doing what the party leader asks, no matter what science and technology says. The worse part is that since they were raised as scientists and engineers, they tend to treat PEOPLE as mechanical components first. We are just a part to be assembled into a car! We are expendable as individuals. That is the root problem of China's politics now.

  • @jinluo934
    @jinluo934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This about Chinese mentality against hundred-year of humiliation was reasoned, based on no Chinese 3000 years of history. So wrong: The P R China established in 1949. But it is R China who overthrown the Great Qing Empire in 1911. Before, China was concurred and occupied by Manchurian since 1640. It was like Roman Empire concurred and ruled Europe, but no country now can claim that it owns while Europe. In Great Song Empire of China 1000 years ago, it had greatest inventions and GDP among the world. China then only had the land of now 6 provinces. A present country cannot pick up an old period of imperial territory as its own. This is just the same, applies all countries who established after WWII, 2/3 of them in the modern world.

  • @philchinamusical
    @philchinamusical 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mao is not revolutionary. Mao finally went back to the old ways all reforming emperors did, as what the author said. The difference is that Mao did not have his own blood as HIS HEIR.
    The old emperors went back to the old ways, because they needed to hand the regime down to their own heirs. So they would somehow "reserve" something for the successors.
    Mao thought about this too. That's why he sent his only sane son to Korea war to "exercise", as what Kims did in Korea, and what Jiang Jieshi did in Taiwan.
    What went wrong was that the only successor was killed by the US bomber. That left Mao no his trustworthy heir, which was a huge impact to his views. One of the results were that he didn't have to worry about what China will become after his death. China became an "experiment field" of his. That's why we would have so many political activities starting in the late 1950's, exactly when Mao realised he had no heir of his own blood at all.
    This was not entirely disaster, or we would become another Korea ruled by Kim.

  • @joellis5915
    @joellis5915 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    China is more "Democratic" than any other nations in the world. i got Shingles in China when visited, it only cost me chinese 4 dollars (less than $1.00) stayed in clinic bed for 4 hours with
    medicines, shots, and cleaning pads with an US passport. Orville Schell married a Chinese women and Bashing China for last 30 years while still in Berkeley until now, it didn't work at all.
    China has the most effective system and policy on top of the world, just evidenced how powerful the China is now, and how much China serves the whole world of Prosperous.
    Pl TH-cam the following videos that Taiwanese people asking the world to know with English sub-title. They already sue Taiwan President Tsai Ing Wen
    of PH.D fraud, now Taiwanese people intended impeach Tsai.
    a. How Tsai Ing Wen rigged 2020 Taiwan’s President election 蔡英文選舉做票
    b. sai Ing-Wen rigged Taiwan’s election 蔡英文選舉做票
    c. Americans! People of R.O.C. Needs Your Voice! 2020 Presidential Election Fraud
    d. 全球首映 5 蔡英文論文Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen Fraud "TThesisGate" Worldwide Premiere 5
    e. 芝加哥拒絕假博士後續篇19,播放部份"蔡英文做票必須下台"的視頻,另外6個有關假博士、假論文、假總統的白宮請願連署(Chicago Taiwan Communities Asking Taiwan President to be impeached for election fraud)
    f. Jason Lee question Taiwan President's legitimacy 質疑總統選舉造假(Part 1 of 3):從2004年說起/ How does DPP rig Taiwan Elections
    g. An open Letter to Secretary Mike Pompeo 致美國國務卿蓬佩奧公開信|from Wang Ping-Chung.
    h. Taiwan's Criminal Investigation Bureau threatened to prosecute Jason Lee for posting election fraud videos
    i. @t​