This is not a scenario that applies to all situations. If I equip age of harvest on my own Jiyan, with buffs I will have a 100%+ crit rate and my full rotation damage will be 1191622 (against 100 level enemy with %10 resistance) but if I use the signature weapon (my crit rate is 80%) my average damage per rotation will be 1294944 and can even increase up to 1510657 if I'm lucky enough to crit all the hits So if you have a good enough Jiyan, getting the signature weapon is 100% worth it.
Great video. I’ve been trying to tell people for months. Signature weapons are good but OP if you want to get high refinement. Based on how damage is calculated in the game, the damage loss is not that significant if you ran another 5 star weapon as long as you are using double elemental damage bonus. Well done Morment
sorry late reply, are you saying it's a better bang for buck to go for multiple copies of the same weapon instead of pulling for dupes of the character? 1 Jiyan + 1 Jinhsi + 3 of one of their weapons is better than like 1 of their weapon + 2 Jiyan + 2 Jinhsi?
@@andysabur4966 quite the opposite. It’s better to go for character dupes than to go for weapon dupes. It’s most cases, character dupes are not even necessary but it’s fine you wanna spend to get more damage
I have Ages of Harvest though I pulled out for his signature because he's my favourite and I'm already skipping Camellya and now I'm saving for Stringmaster⚡
Well i have both weapon btw Jinshi sig is R1 but yeah rip 0 heavy attack dmg if you use Jinshi weapon you can still clear ToA but the damage would not be the same if you have his sig unless you got some heavy attack damage bunos on his echos(S6 Mortefi would be nice).
@@kramlyn2412you don't even need a 5* Weapon to clear with him tbh. These clears were less than a minute, so that's plenty of room to spare. At the end of the day it just comes down to your skill level.
Could you do Verdant Summit vs Lustrous Razor please? I think more people are likely to have that than another limited weapon like Ages of Harvest. Thanks!
@@billydale1456 It sucks in my opinion on Jiyan, He only scale on the Atk and doesn't benefit from the others bonus I did 1min with Verdant summit, 1 min 15 sec with age of Harvest, 1 min 20 with Lustrous razor. My final opinion its good enough if you only have that but you need good echoes to have good stats in the end
I didn't pull for his Sig because I'm broke in astrite so I only have the standard 5 stars for him. The ER passive is pretty helpful but too bad the Resonance Liberation Buff is Useless for Jiyan.
@@Mormento Yeah and Luckily and Rarely I got Double Crit Stats on all his echo so he's dealing pretty Decent Damage. I'm Now Fully Focusing to Upgrade him because I just lost my Camellya 50/50 at 73 pity to LingYang😭
Ofc if you want it, just pull for it. This type of comparsion is just for those who are indecisive of whether jiyan needs his sig or not and yeah great thing it's guaranteed
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Thanks for vid, I knew the numbers in paper but I really wanted to see a proper live comparison to decide.
Thank you for the helpful comparison!
Thank you for this. It’s very helpful. now i can save my pull for camellya sig weapon.
This is not a scenario that applies to all situations. If I equip age of harvest on my own Jiyan, with buffs I will have a 100%+ crit rate and my full rotation damage will be 1191622 (against 100 level enemy with %10 resistance) but if I use the signature weapon (my crit rate is 80%) my average damage per rotation will be 1294944 and can even increase up to 1510657 if I'm lucky enough to crit all the hits
So if you have a good enough Jiyan, getting the signature weapon is 100% worth it.
That difference is because you have to use crit dmg 4 cost to balance up things, not just play for max 100% crit
Great video. I’ve been trying to tell people for months. Signature weapons are good but OP if you want to get high refinement. Based on how damage is calculated in the game, the damage loss is not that significant if you ran another 5 star weapon as long as you are using double elemental damage bonus. Well done Morment
Yep, well said. Thank you
sorry late reply, are you saying it's a better bang for buck to go for multiple copies of the same weapon instead of pulling for dupes of the character? 1 Jiyan + 1 Jinhsi + 3 of one of their weapons is better than like 1 of their weapon + 2 Jiyan + 2 Jinhsi?
@@andysabur4966 quite the opposite. It’s better to go for character dupes than to go for weapon dupes. It’s most cases, character dupes are not even necessary but it’s fine you wanna spend to get more damage
I have Ages of Harvest though I pulled out for his signature because he's my favourite and I'm already skipping Camellya and now I'm saving for Stringmaster⚡
Damn, night and Day difference
Thanks! At least I don't feel guilty that much about pulling his weapon, although as an F2P, skipping his weapon would be wiser.
I got age of harvest on him too and decided to skip his sign since it really doesn't have such a huge gap of difference
Awesome vid, can you do a jinhsi comparison with these weapons too? that would be really helpful since there aren't many good comparisons for wuwa...
Will try my best 👌
@@Mormento thank you very much
Please pull for his weapon, you will get it in first 10 pull. No ritual needed.
Why didn't it work for me 😂😂?
+ RIP 0 heavy attack dmg
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Well i have both weapon btw Jinshi sig is R1 but yeah rip 0 heavy attack dmg if you use Jinshi weapon you can still clear ToA but the damage would not be the same if you have his sig unless you got some heavy attack damage bunos on his echos(S6 Mortefi would be nice).
@@kramlyn2412 atk%/atk flat are way better
@@kramlyn2412you don't even need a 5* Weapon to clear with him tbh. These clears were less than a minute, so that's plenty of room to spare. At the end of the day it just comes down to your skill level.
I got verdant summit cuz I like it, now I’m broke
Same here 🙃
Pull because verdant look so cool 😅😅😅
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You people pull for meta, I pull for aesthetic. We are not the same 😎
Based 🔥
Could you do Verdant Summit vs Lustrous Razor please? I think more people are likely to have that than another limited weapon like Ages of Harvest. Thanks!
I don't have it sadly but I will for sure do a one in the future when i get it
I have three of them R1 if you want to test
@@shihaicity2043 what are your own thoughts on lustrous razor when you play? Clear times differ by much?
@@billydale1456 It sucks in my opinion on Jiyan, He only scale on the Atk and doesn't benefit from the others bonus
I did 1min with Verdant summit, 1 min 15 sec with age of Harvest, 1 min 20 with Lustrous razor.
My final opinion its good enough if you only have that but you need good echoes to have good stats in the end
would the test be any different in non-advantaged towers or hologram? or will the difference actually become smaller?
Non advantaged or other content will need 1 more rotation in case of ages of harvest
When you give general his BiS weapon but uses his dragon lance instead
Damn, general. I bought it using my work salary....
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Me watching this video after i already pulled his sig 😂
I didn't pull for his Sig because I'm broke in astrite so I only have the standard 5 stars for him. The ER passive is pretty helpful but too bad the Resonance Liberation Buff is Useless for Jiyan.
It performs completely fine too so no worries about it's passive
@@Mormento Yeah and Luckily and Rarely I got Double Crit Stats on all his echo so he's dealing pretty Decent Damage. I'm Now Fully Focusing to Upgrade him because I just lost my Camellya 50/50 at 73 pity to LingYang😭
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Have these 2 hehe
Make a video comparing EOG and BB and Red Spring pllls
Am broke xDDDD
@@Mormento 🥲🥲🥲
how come does my jiyan with lustrous razor do more dmg then yours with ages of harvest
Echoes quality for sure, a side from that lustrous is a really underrated option for him too
idk But that makes me want his sig more lol and wuwa you won't lose 50/50 so its WW lol
Ofc if you want it, just pull for it. This type of comparsion is just for those who are indecisive of whether jiyan needs his sig or not and yeah great thing it's guaranteed
How about if I want it and deep 40 pity in the banner and still no sign of it come home?
As said if you like something just pull for it, but meta or performance wise it's not that huge
Very late, I have both since their appearance xd
Waaant cammelya signature but also yinlin's
I think i will go with yinlin's
Thinking the same too
good choice