The Call Ending Explained (2020) Netflix Movie
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- Here's my quick explanation of the ending for the Korean Netflix thriller 'The Call.' Does my explanation make sense? I'd love to hear your thoughts and theories in the comments below.
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So the step mother of YS that i hated at first was doing the right thing
i just finished the movie but what did the step mother of YS do again?
@@tammngg_ she wanted to kill her remember
I think the actions of YS’s mom shaped her into that sociopathic serial killer. Without the brutal shaman rituals, YS never would have hated her mom and would have never killed her. We saw that her relationship with SY in the beginning was real sweet and genuine which shows that she was capable of empathy at some point. Also if YS was a psychopath or sociopath from the begining, she would have never helped SY by saving her dad because that was a pretty caring move considering she would have been punished harshly if she got caught. Unlike a psychopath who is born that way, a sociopath is shaped by their environment and we saw that she took on extreme sociopathic tendencies/characteristics after killing her mother which proves that it was the environment that fucked her up. TLDR: YS’s mom caused all this
Louis Shinohara yep true but i think YS stepmom did that because maybe YS is unstoppable already. But i really need part two of this
Yup
Am I the only one who hoped they would carry out the good relationship they had at first
Me too! I thought that they would be good friends at first.
@@atiqahazry2812 yeah they were dope !!
Me too, i was hopping for her to be free and them becaming friends in the future
They can't. Because the girl in the present had tried to kill the psychopat girl. By directed her to the glasshouse that was about to explode due to gas leaking. (While looking for the knife)
@@hasanaufa179 yeah because she did kill her father and threatened her to kill her mother and was keeping her as a child a hostage so that was a pretty reasonable action from park shin hye ..
The protagonist made some mistakes in telling her she's going to get arrested early on and also by disconnecting the phone. Like how did she not realise the killer can just go to her house and kill her past self and her family??
right?? but what i didn‘t understand was her attempt of killing the protagonist as a child. Like is she stupid tho? Cause that would have meant that the protagonist never existed as an adult and never warned her about being killed by her mother and stuff...
@@user-zt2wd6dz6c As the good man in this video said, that's not how it works in this movie. It's not a time loop.
The "past timeline" can't be changed. It's only the "future timeline" that can be changed from events of the "past timeline".
she tell her accidentally while questioning whether ys killed Sunghoo uncle or not
@@user-zt2wd6dz6c yeah it's not time loop. so if ys kill young seoyoon, ys's mother still already dead. it can't change the past
It was so painful to watch her being so stupid
If Seoyeon did not tell to Young sook that she will be in jail. The movie ends quickly, And also her dad is alive. Easy.
If only she shut her mouth about the strawberry farmer dying. Could have lied to YS that she is not aware of any arrests or murder in the present day, making YS think she is fine
Yeah, but you can't blame her. She had no idea that Young Sook was a psychopath.
@@electric336 yeah and she trusted her also
@@ajl3283 She killed two different people, lied about the first one, and she still trusts them? Guuurl she naive af. The police report in the present also tells her the two mental disorders she had that are pretty common in psychopaths.
@@Kaliospectre she trusted her before she found out that she killed her stepmother and sunhoo (i forgot his name) She also kind of like trusted her because Young sook brought his father back to life but yeah it was kind of stupid of her to say that
I really hate it when cops just walk into a suspect’s house without backup and get killed, everytime in every movie 🙄 I literally shout “damn it dont do it, haven’t u watched horror movies”😄
did you really watched the movie? it said that it's out of their protocols. basically saying, the police came with the mother without permissions.
Actually something like this happened in sri Lanka. After Easter Sunday bombing attacks police went to the one of the attacker house with nothing and get killed by bomb. I think 3 cops were dead (sorry for my bad English)
@@i66hayakawa okay and? He could have still carried a gun or even just keep and eye on YS, she magically disappears from the chair which is right in front of them and she happens to be behind him
The more i read the comments the more i ger confuse
Same here lol😂 I have my own interpretation of the ending so be it😂
Dm me i will explain it to you
Im getting confuse when I read someone theories a comment above u.
The police report said multiple personality disorder. I think the phone doesn’t exist and she is both people. Think about it. They both are the same age. They both like the same music. they both live in the same house. They both knew about the hidden room. She had no memory of the serial killer girl in the future even though she supposedly met her in the past. The phone scene might just be her alternative personality remembering things differently from her current self.
Better idea than the disappearing ppl and mom not having a tumor anymore and cassettes players and teddy bears in the 2020 fridge house....
@@thefinalroman The phone nonsense makes it really hard to know for sure. I will say this South Koreans are masters at taking simple concepts like a haunted phone and making psychological thrillers out of it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. I don’t think it really worked here. I think the movie had a plot twist in mind, but couldn’t figure out what it should be. I think we’re right about what it was originally going to be, but I think they thought that would be too cliche so they went with ending they did.
Yes I also think she has d.i.d. because YS said that her mother turn off the stove and she is the one who open it. And come to think of it why SY cannot remember what happened in the past every time someone died.
@@jonermd They also both hated their mothers. We need a part 2 ASAP.
What, I thought the police report said antisocial personality disorder and borderline personality disorder.. I don’t remember there being MPD..
Maybe it's all in SY's mind while she was trapped in that chair wishing that she could change the past, while the psychopath one was Torturing her and keeping her in that room all these years? 🤔
Or maybe the old YS is calling to the before past of what SY is, get it? 🤔🤣
I thought the same too
Woahh this theory makes the most sense
I was going more on the route of ptsd I think that sy suffered from ptsd from the events of the childhood so she remembers parts of what happens but then her mind continues to make up things that didn't like driving with her dad and her family eating strawberry part of it also might revolve around the guilt she had the phone is what her mind makes and is part of her wistful thinking to change things in the past her talking to killer was also her mind trying to remember things but remembering it differently the ending credit showing that her trapped in that chair is the portrayal of herself in her mind to her she is still stuck in that traumatic time to when she was tourchured. Notice that in the scene when her parents were alive she had a dress on similar to when she was happy in her childhood her hair is longer and the house seems like it's in a fantasy she also gives off a very innocent vibe and then slowly as things start to unravel we see her hair back to short and her clothes to when it first started at the beginning of the movie
I refuse the actual ending lol
For me it ended as soon the credits rolled 😂 ill stay in denial thank you very much.
I really regret that I continued watching even after the credits were rolled. Here I am, frying my brain 🤣
I feel its just an alternate ending senario that the antagonist wish would have happened because....after the protagonists mom pushes YS, they both fall and YS dies and you see in the present timeline she disappears and they find out that she is the killer. If that happens then she definitely died back then because thats how the timeline works in the movie. Maybe the director put it to mess with our minds.
I maybe wrong cuz i even choose to believe a happy ending...but after reading a lot comments, this theory makes so much sense.
@@Anjalisinging Naw I agree, cause she already disappeared, you can't reappear like that lmao. Its impossible to die and come back alive like that, especially disappearing and reappearing again.
@@Anjalisinging Agreed. Idk if anyone else knows this, but in the game FNAF Sister Location, there is a good/fake ending and a bad/real ending. This is just like here in this movie. The good ending is the real ending of what really happened. The bad ending is the ending YS wanted, but its a fake ending. Idk, but whatever it is idc what people say, that’s the way how I’m setting my mind...
just why the hell was the past girl able to call her future self? a little cheating
she's basically omnipotent
10/10 best thriller of 2020 so far
I liked Run more
ABSOLUTELY !!
Yesss it was super good I wasn’t expecting that
Agreed
Really... Out of the WHOLE year? I disagree.. js. Lol
So if Young-sook survived the fall, why did her present self suddenly disappear when she was about to kill Seo-yeon. Also, she barely aged lol. But overall I thought it was an amazing movie tho
This is exactly my question! Glad I found you hahaha I think a lot of people missed this part. If Young Sook did survived the fall, why did she disappeared in the present and why did the present changed? I got confused on this part. Please explain this to me! I wouldn’t be able to sleep!!! Hahahahaha Is this a loophole or something 😭🤣
We have a mutual question bro... I kinda a lil confused of the movie
My theory is that, Young-sook flatline for quite some time, affecting the present. But when she regained consciousness, it altered the present where Seo-yeon and her mother survived. It might be questionable if why a split second of being flatline then going back from the dead affected years of their existence
Have you noticed the scar on YS's throat? Maybe the present YS got that on her first encounter with SY's Mom. So maybe, just maybe, he thought of a better idea or better way to prevent that from happening and just ride along falling, then playing dead, etc. on the second encounter which is her young self who she called to warn. Then afterwards, proceed on killing SY's Mom in a more cautious way where she is able to avoid severe injuries etc. Just maybe.
Yeh! same question! why did the present self of the killer disappear? if she indeed didn't die in the fall.
I don't think Young Sook had to 'track' Seo Yeon's mother down and kill her and then 'track' down Seo Yeon and abduct her. They were already in the house with her when she regained consciousness. My guess was that both Young Sook and the mother survived the fall and that while Young Sook was unconscious and flatlining, the present timeline involved Seo Yeon living with her alive mother. However, when Young Sook regained consciousness in 1999 she killed the mother and then kept Seo Yeon trapped in the house. And then the present timeline changed so that the mother disappeared and Seo Yeon was trapped in the chair again.
this makes the most sense to me
But then whilst YS was flatlining, what was the mother doing? Flatlining as well? And they conveniently wake up at the same time?
that's impossible because if the young SY was captured by YS then she would never have grown up like the main protagonist did, so the older SY would never have been able to save YS from getting killed by the shamen in the first. Remember that the past changes the future, so if your theory is true, the whole movie would vanish because SY never grew up as a normal person but was killed when she was likely still a child.
@@unrealsimon93 FACT
I was going to right this theory down but you totally got it :) I really do think this is the most logical one according to the time rules this movie bases itself on.
all these theories yet no one explains how YS survived the blast when she was near the explosion
SHE ATE THAT SHIT
There was a cat outside that drew her attention..Made her out of the glass house, before the explosion.and survive. That made sy her want to kill ys for intentionally directed her to be killed in the blast.
@@hasanaufa179 it was dogs and she literally moved in front of the doors, the doors were literally plastic. When we see her she has no damage whatsoever, there would atleast be a part of her body missing or something....i think this is why the whole multiple personality theory kinda checks out
@@dirtyjawa8353 ikr?? she flew backwards too lmao
Plot armor lmaooo
GUYS HEAR ME OUT! There was no strawberry farmer at all! It was just her imagination. What SY saw when she went to see if the strawberry greenhouse was still there, was just the remnants of the greenhouse gas explosion that happened on Dec. 31st 1999 at Hwasoon-gun at 5:00 pm. The same greenhouse where SY tricked YS to go and get the knife. The phone call never existed at all.
Possible evidence to this:
1) That scene where YS was driving SY's dad's car and when she pulled over, the strawberry man's truck was there meaning that YS went to the place where the strawberry greenhouse aka where the greenhouse gas explosion happened.
2) It puzzled me why the 2 policemen who visited YS's house after the strawberry man got murdered didn't see his truck in front of YS's house. That day he was distributing his strawberries to his neighbors, he couldn't have possibly carried so many boxes of strawberries at such a long distance so he must have brought his truck with him. YS couldn't have driven the car back to the strawberry farm seeing how she barely managed to even drive SY's dad's car. So this one doesn't add up thus, can only be explained that this was just all in SY's imagination. She created a persona that could go back in time to save her dad and that is YS because she couldn't cope with the fact that it wasn't her mom who killed her dad but it was her. The part where the police man looked at YS medical record was probably SY's medical record. SY has Borderline Personality disorder, a person who experiences paranoia and disassociation.
Which explains the ending where we see SY trapped in the basement. That scene depicts that she is fighting with herself, in her mind. She doesn't know what is real and what is not anymore. She experiences paranoia where she thinks another person is "threatening her" when in reality it was just her all along.
wow! i think you are right. the one who has personality disorder is SY not YS. And YS is just in her mind.
Damn. I think you nailed it
i just love movies that boggle the mind! It brings out theorists and smarties like you who actually are smart and not just from school
You obviously got A* in English
@Mikiel Andrei Chico but this is a good theory. There was a lot of holes,, this is a good explanatiom
This movie was damn confusing my head hurt trying to understand it...
At least you not alone ;) More people are confused.
try tenet then you will smash your head on the wall
@@mrenigma1564 i almost did LOL
This movie was not confusing at all. This movie was frustrating in a good way. I felt rage at the end of the movie and I think the director wanted us to feel that way.
Give it a watch to another Korean masterpiece The Wailing.
I'm still mind-boggled about the whole ending of this film. It's definitely confusing and it pushes you to seek more for answers.
I think YS killed her mom and is going to kill SY next, but idk.
@@l.nguyen9225 or maybe there's a chance of SY escaping from her captive state. If there's ever a sequel intended.
Here's my view:
First the movie showed that she survived the fall. The graveyard scene happened, so it appears that time went by just fine after the incident, but then what happened to the killed that's still alive? She ran away and waited for the right time, so she could use the phone again. She even told her past self to keep the phone on her just in case. She's waiting until the right time to call back to her past and then not get thrown off that balcony. Once she does, the present changes. The mom disappears, because she dies in the past. The main character stays captive, hence that last scene.
@MHGFTW the movie just made a huge mistake, yes by the end she survived the fall therefore she should be alive and protagonist and her mom either dead or escaped so how did she call herself before that happened, the movie's entire premise is about time going in one direction, there's no way she could prevent the fall from the future the same way she can't bring the protagonist father because the day he died has passed
This was my take as well.@@MHGFTW
i understood the movie till u started calling them YS and SY now im confused
Yessss man, they should name like crazy bitch and sweetie Instead
literally why did he have to use ys and sy oh my god
Loll I thought I was alone.. 😂
It even got more confusing for me
Haha yes
good girl bad girl would be easier
I think the ending just represents the psychopath's alternate ending
You think, I wish you would say i know. I am gonna keep on reading the comments plus google the shit out of it until i close this case.
Maybe both ending exist at the same time. The good ending for both.
I feel like SY should've thrown the villain off track.. she shouldn't have revealed the fact that the villain will get arrested due to the murder weapon.. could've said they found the body pieces, DNA or something else.. also, how did she get away killing that many people? Surely, they'd look for the missing cop right?
Exactlyyy. Plus she’s been in the SAME house killing everyone for years. At that point I started to wonder if maybe this was SY making it all up in her head, and that YS and allllll of it was a figment of her own imagination.
Just finished the film just a few minutes ago and found this right after....lol
Pretty trippy, I hope their is a sequel.
How would they sequel this though? It would just be a never ending torture for Seo Yeon pretty much. Cause she would have to keep finding ways to save herself from Young Sook. Unless they blast us back to the past and run through Seo Yeon’s childhood years as they would be based off the last movie. Then speed is up to where the previous movie ended.
I also compeleted watching this movies few minutes ago 😅 .one year after you 🤣
Today I re-watched this film with the post credit scene and got totally confused 💀😭
i really think the writer want to give us option to believe which ending we could believe in, does seo yeon survive or does young sook outplay seo yeon. we can choose whichever we believe in. because the last scene is kinda mid credit scene, it felt kinda like a bonus or a fan service that some of the viewers really want to see young sook won.
This is what I thought so too!
It's like the Director just gave us another possibility of an ending of what can happen with the opposite of the first one ^^
I regret i watched the complete ending.. I want the Park Shinhye ending.
Yes, the same scenes at 1hr 28 and 1 hr 44..
I think it make sense to me end I understand more ending it smart choice for movie because I noticed it same date of Dec 31 young-sook kill father in house it seo yeon ran bury father it never bury because of date Dec 11 1999 it real Dec 31 not Dec 11 that why she think it alive and safe end up young sook room
I personally think Young-sook killed her mom, and now, shes going to kill her next.
I just hope that Strawberry has a good owner :)
This needs to have more likes lmao 😂
My big question is..
WHY TF SHE WASN'T PICKING UP THE CALLS ON HER CELLPHONE AND WHO WAS CALLING ON THAT??!!!
Good question!! I was wondering that for a long time... what is that number? from the future? Plot twist?
@@Passionatelycurious91 ya. They really kept that totally unexplained.
i cant get over this part. i can excuse the ending but THIS
I thought it was her dad
@@KamMix ya. Some of theses little inconveniences take away the fun. It feels like the gruel ending could be avoided if she was a bit more careful.
My brain started to fry ever since I saw the ending
It's like solving math questions
I genuinely think that the call should've been a 'limited' series rather than a movie. Cuz there are so many things to figure out like how a phone can connect past and future, how SY's mother and YS have scars and the most important thing in movie is that, at 42:50 the stepmother knew the future of YS and in the next scene SY wakes up as she had a bad dream which is connected to the previous scene of stepmother? What is connection of that stepmother's moment with SY's waking up with frightedness? And as we all know the confusing ending which needs to be exposed too.
I think you pretty much nailed it. I really liked this thriller too... 7/10
Omg why are u here
@@camibelle3858 Because good youtubers deserve views.
Hi
9/10
@@camibelle3858 Because he's got the k-virus :P
After reading discussions, I’m starting to think the post-credit ending is the “real” timeline.
1999 villain calls 2019, and instead of SY, 2019 villain picks up the phone, warning her to “keep the phone close, and we can solve anything”. 2019 villain warns 1999 villain the cop and mom is coming.
1999: Fight with mom happens (explains the gash on both necks), both fell off balcony. Villain might have fallen unconscious or significantly hindered from fall injury. After a time gap, villain kills the mom, and kidnaps child SY to lock her up in basement forever
Simultaneously in 2019, villain vanishes before she could kill SY in the abandoned house. This is because if the 1999 villain survived, this timeline would be impossible to exist. SY would never be in the house, because she would have been locked in the basement forever, and the entire timeline of the movie would never have existed, because SY would always be locked up.(paradox right here, because if SY was locked up forever, she wouldn’t have been able to save the villain from being murdered by the shaman stepmom... which means she wouldn’t be locked up in the first place, because the villain would be dead before she could kill anyone). The wholesome ending we saw where her mom is alive is due to the time gap of 1999 villain falling unconscious (remember the two timelines are simultaneous, nothing stops) so it was filled by a temporary timeline where the mom didn’t die and SY wasn’t locked up, yet.
Another plot hole is... why is no one searching the house. Why is no one looking for the dead cop. Is Korean police not allowed to search suspicious houses? Judging by how everything happened at the house, villain never moved or went into hiding. How does the villain get money? To afford all those fridges? Pay the bills? Avoid the police?!
TLDR: if post credit ending is the true timeline, there are so many paradoxes and plot holes.
This is a good one
After reading this ,the wholesome ending make way more sense bcs as you said YS would be assassinated by her mom if SY had been locked up all this time wich means she would never be locked up in the first place so the post credit ending isnt the real one since it had no chance of being true wether YS killed her mom or not
If we wanted to avoid the paradox, i suggest that maybe 1999 youngsook did not kidnap 1999 soyeon after murdering her mother but she kidnapped her in 2019 timeline progressed at the cemetery. But still, a lot of plotholes can still be found either way.
My theory is that there are 2 alternate endings. IT depicts how the audience sees it. If you want to see the ending in the antagonist's (villian) perspective or the protagonist's (hero) perspective. The good ending is where both the mom and the daughter survives. The murder hit her head and died. Everything is good and all. While in the bad ending, the murder survives, while the mom dies and the daughter is kidnapped. The directors of the film likely wanted to put two alternate endings for the audience to choose which one they prefered and which one they liked better. I would prefer the good ending more than the bad ending. But everything still makes sense. This is why this film is an amazing thriller and suspenful piece.
If you're asking those questions, you're mainly leaning towards the bad ending, where the murder survives. The murder likely covered up the evidence like she did for the rest of the film but it's up to the audience to decide. We don't know what happens next. Thats why the bad ending is so intresting and makes the audience curious. While in the good ending, where the mother and daughter survives, It baiscally brings a resolve to the issue. The murder dies and nothing murdurous is happening. We would most likely see graves of the strawberry man, dead police officer, and her dad. Basically its 2 alternate endings. (good ending vs bad ending). The filmakers wants the audience to decide which one you like better. The one where the mom survives, or the one where the murder survives?
It’s one of those movies you actually don’t mind or won’t really get mad even tho it has some loop holes... because without them it might not be that great lol. Korean movies are next level , The Call is such a memorable one. Salute to everyone involved in this thriller.
This is my summarised take of the storyline
When present girl gave evidence information to past killer, the past killer now managed to stay out of jail and grew to an adult. But that timeline probably has the same incident where the mother and policeman visited the past killer or maybe this incident was implanted into the present killer mind when the timeline was created.
When the past killer called the phone to check on the status of the evidence information, the present killer answered the phone and gave tips to past killer like telling her to keep phone with her at all times. That was why the past killer placed the phone next to her.
When past killer and mother fell to the ground, they were just injured. The mother managed to run away with the small girl for a few hours. During this few hours, the present girl was running to police station and then to the cemetery where she saw her surviving mother with the fighting scars.
But the past killer at this point also woke up and tracked down the mother and the small girl. She killed the mother and kidnapped the girl. In present day, the mother vanished and the present girl woke up in captivity
Ahhhh that’s so much sense thanks
this explanation makes more sense to me
A cop died and other cops let the serial killer got away? Until adulthood? Doesnt make sense. Everything should have ended asa she killed the cop. No coming back from killing cops man.
@@minhlenguyen6281 The young cop and the mother went off in secrecy to carry out their own unauthorized investigation. The other cop may not know and by then, the past killer might have removed the evidence.
@@minhlenguyen6281 make a phone call to the past also doesnt make sense. Why bother ?
You missed it, when SY wakes up in the room with the fridges YS is already on the phone with her younger self (same scene they show at the end where she warns her younger self to keep the phone near her at all times).
Impressive
The movie is great, but the ending makes no sense because Young Sook died for sure in 1999, I think the "post-credit" scene is just an imaginary scenario..
She did, but that changed when she killed her mother instead of being the victim.
@@AltClickRepeat Nope when you disappear in 2020 you died in 2000 according to the timelines in the movie...
Yes I think this just an imaginary scenario. An alternative ending wherein if Young Sook had kept the telephone always with her. Watch again at 1:28:45 and 1:44:18, the same scene..
The killer girl YS terrified me when she started to show her true self...such a great actress!!!
Has anyone noticed SY's mom and YS has the same scar on their neck? My mind is about to blow up lol
In my perspective, the director decided to show us the 2 possible endings of the story, the good and the bad ending. Especially the actual "key" which leads to one of the 2 possible endings is the phone. I noticed that in the good ending, SY from the present is the one who got to the phone first(which was in the basement) and talked to her mother when they were both locked in YS's room, afraid to be killed by SY. But in the bad ending, YS is the one who reached the phone first and tied YS to that torture chair or whatever it is called(this makes us understand that in the bad ending, SY didnt even talk to her mother through the phone and YS warned her past self and survived). Basically what changed the present is the phone and who reached to it first, simple as that. Although I think that the bad ending was more likely to happen in the story, because when I saw SY's mother disappearing in the end(the scene they were in the graves) , SY didn't even react and kept walking, and also if you noticed they were walking to the opposite direction of their home(mom came from the opposite side of the one that they left and both just left to nowhere which is probably their death). So yeah... It is still confusing to me but that is how I would describe the ending....
Thx man even tho wht u said was theory and ur perspective i was brainracking the ending and finally understood thx to u . Ur theory definitely makes sense thx for helping me
Here's my view:
First the movie showed that she survived the fall. The graveyard scene happened, so it appears that time went by just fine after the incident, but then what happened to the killed that's still alive? She ran away and waited for the right time, so she could use the phone again. She even told her past self to keep the phone on her just in case. She's waiting until the right time to call back to her past and then not get thrown off that balcony. Once she does, the present changes. The mom disappears, because she dies in the past. The main character stays captive, hence that last scene.
i feel like the “ending” after the credits scenes is not true, it was just an “imaginary alternate ending.” it doesn’t align with the actual ending (soyeon and her mom being alive). i feel like the movie just wanted the audience to see an alternate ending where youngsook win. it couldn’t be the actual ending bcos calls can only be made by the ppl from the past and not the present. with that ending, the present youngsook was the one who called the past youngsook and warned her. so with the “alternate ending” in the credit scenes, we would assume that youngsook was prepared and was able to kill both soyeon’s mother and the police. reason why soyeon’s mother in the present disappeared. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS AN ALTERNATE ENDING. bcos youngsook in the present disappeared when she was about to kill soyeon bcos she died from the fall. if she didn’t die from the fall... WELL IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE.
im not much of an english speaker, but what i interpreted is that, 1. the fall wasnt tall at all, she didnt fall on a rock or anything like that right? and didn’t the mother also survive? 2. my interpretation at the end (credits) was that, the child from the past never escaped the house, as a result the main character found on the chair was the child that never escaped... does that make any sense?
I feel the same. Just felt like an alternate ending that they just decided to tie in and make it apart of the storyline.
It might have been that when she fell & didn't die from the fall, SY & her mom were able to escape and probably told the police about YS & YS most likely didn't stick around in that house since the police would know about her place right? So this would mean that the 2019 versions of themselves fighting wouldve never happened bc YS wouldve abandoned the house and they wouldnt have never met there in 2019. Idk, just my guess haha
I felt exactly the same way, that's why I watched that "ALTERNATIVE ENDING" very closely. If you WATCH VERY CLOSELY, you can clearly see that the GLASS DIVIDER that YS & SY broke during their scuffle for the phone... it's still there! The ending that we got with SY and her Mother was actually the real ending.
I think the real ending is they survive. Horror and thriller directors love making these alternate endings just for the final boo factor
Agree
@Akeelzzz me too. I loved these type of movies.
I watched this on netflix today and this is my personal explanation about the movie. I think it all started when she was a young girl, she got traumatized by how her psychopath neighbor killed her father in front of her and how she was tortured.
She suffers from post traumatic disorder and couldn't move on from her past. The after credits shows that she is sitting in the same chair in the same house where she was tortured as a young girl, it symbolizes how she was trapped in tgat scene and find it difficult to move on in life.
Everything is just in her mind. It is kinda similar to the movie "uninvited", but this movie didn't really showed us the twist of the story at the end, instead it just let us choose which one we want to believe in.
There would be no point of the movie if it was all in her mind.
But wasn't seo yeon the one who killed her dad tho by leaving the gas stove on or turning it back on as we saw also pretty sure seo yeon and young shook weren't neighbors at any point
@@dhruvildesai6911 but she didn't intentionally killed her dad.she just turned on the stove as she saw in the cartoon which she was seeing at that time.later when everyone asked about that terrified little girl says that lie that mother did it.and she throws away the memory that she was the one turn on the stove.Later she believes her mother did it until young sook tells her the truth
@@billytubes Right.then it would be in psychological thriller genre.but it's a fantasy thriller.so sure it is not in her mind
@@billytubes But Yeon killed her father. She was the one who turned the stove back on. Only the killer would know that. Sook reminded Yeon of this. I’m telling you it was all in her mind.
Moral of the story:
"Dont try to change past,to have what you hadn't, if you try, then worst case scenario-, you will lose yourself"
I thought you were gonna say don't answer phone calls from people you don't know lol
@@elie2100 but that's too easy moral of the story.
I thought I'd get my questions answered here lol instead I got more confused 🤣
Korean directors are so creative , that’s why I love there movies.
I think it’s a remake of a 2013 film
@@sophiavlr7815 but this version is way better
@@jajangmyeon6914 it was based on the 2011 film
I personally believe the extra scene at the end was the filmmaker showing an alternate ending to the movie. If you look at it, present-day YS swung a knife at SY to kill her, but she survived bc the past YS died. If YS happened to still be alive after she fell off the ledge, then present-day YS would have carried thru with the knife swing and SY would have been dead at that moment.
Also, both of the endings could not have happened simultaneously because its either the mom lives, or YS lives. It can't be both
Perfect explanation 🙏❤
i can sleep in peace now knowing that this makes sense, and the ending is actually an alternate ending. so im just going to leave it at YS dying and SY mom lives. thank you for explaining this !
no. i dont think its that way. so there are 2 points in time and both are on say one thread and both points are always at a perfect time distance. if something changes, the points don't change, only the thread changes. so when past ys put boiled water on sy, it hurt sy in the present.
so, what happened there was when present ys threw the knife at sy, the same time the past ys and sy's mom fell. so, because of that fall present ys got hurt. that hurt of the fall affected the present ys that's why she wasnt able to kill. she did not vanish as shown in movie. but simply went and hid or struggled and ran away and then came back fully healed and kidnapped sy
@@Sriram-ig6pr I see what ur saying. But in the movie after past ys falls off the ledge, the present ys does vanish, she is nowhere to be found...? So this means that past ys died from the fall, right?
Also another thing to consider, if past ys survived the fall and it turns out she was just laying there in pain, wouldn't it make sense that the mom would have gotten help and police would come and arrest ys? This would cause ys to be unable to kidnap sy in the future? That is why I believe the two alternate endings actually lie on different timelines or "threads"
Such a clear and succinct "ending explained" video!! Thank you for posting~ I loved this film, but I wanted to able to explain it better to my confused friends.
Here was my theory before watching yours.
YS gets up and survived the fall, ended up killing the mom. SY then a baby, was kidnapped since then and held for majority of her life. That way she kinda lives a life how YS did. Like how with her mom she was kept and not allowed to do anything
Yes. Exactly what I thought. And the young killer after the fall, managed to track down the girl and the mother within some hours. These were the same hours that the present girl spent running to the police station and then to the cemetery where she met the surviving mother with the scars of the fight. But very soon, the young killer murdered the mother and kidnapped the young girl. Hence in present day, the mother disappeared and the girl reappeared in captivity
Great but if she didn't die from the fall then why she disappears in the present fight scene when she's about to kill the good girl? She disappears as if she died from that fall in the past.
@@matter8138 That fall of the past killer and the mum somehow changes the future timeline. The present killer disappeared not because the past killer died, rather it changed the location of the present killer at that instance, somehow there was no need for present killer to be there now.
@@SuccessforLifester Ok ... that doesn't make any sense at all. If we wanna play it like that, which the movie rules didn't, she should've been downstairs, lying down, hurt. I read some other comments and people are trying to make it work and the best thing someone came up with was that she flatlined for some time. Which is also questionable that why would that change anything but that's the best thing so far to me.
@@matter8138 Yes this temporary breathing stopped of past killer is quite a good explanation. It caused the present killer to disappear for a moment and then placed her reappearance at a different location in her different timeline.
Actually that wouldn’t stopped future YS from disappearing. It doesn’t matter if past YS stopped breathing or not if she survived then she survived then future YS should never have disappeared.
The post credit scene is real because before the post credit, Old YS was already warning younger self of the policeman and SY's mum.
I read ppl said it's not possible for old YS to warn her younger self of her possible death because she has no knowledge of the visit from the policeman and SY's mum.
Here's the reason how old YS knows about the visit. She had the policeman's notebook which mentioned about their visit. Remember when the policeman came to investigate about the missing strawberry guy by going to younger YS's house? If you watch that scene again you will notice that younger YS took notice of the policeman with the notebook by checking out his name tag.
Now that she is older she is just waiting for SY to come into her timeline for the cordless phone to ring so she can intercept and warn her younger self. Also, take notice that after warning her younger self, she immediately leaves the house because she knew SY was there in her timeline due to her cordless phone ringing from the past. She pretended to go out so that SY would feel safer waiting for the cordless phone to ring so she can warn her mum (since she saw the notebook writes "used cordless phone" when she was outside the house) only to attack her from behind later on.
Old YS knew whem to come back in the house cause she too like SY read her notebook which writes "used cordless phone "
Now, how can there be two notebooks you asked? Because the one in SY's hand is a notebook she brought from the previous timeline. And the one old YS has is from the current timeline.
Hope that helps you to understand the movie a bit more.
anyone who watched the film to talk about that very confusing ending and what do you think really happened? Can ask 👆🏻Cause, I am scratching my head after seeing the end of The Call. Even I rewatched it. 🙄 maybe it was all hallucinations.
"Now, how can there be two notebooks you asked? Because the one in SY's hand is a notebook she brought from the previous timeline. And the one old YS has is from the current timeline.
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There was a plot hole on that 2 notebooks logic because there was only 1 time telephone at that moment if you based it at that logic there would be 2 since SY has it at the previous timeline.
@@dimmie8616 SY was holding one notebook from her timeline. You can see her holding it when her surrounding was transforming into old YS's house with many refrigerators. That's why there's two notebook. She wasn't holding the phone tho. Thanks for the reply.
Pretty good summation Chris. I enjoyed this more than I thought I would from the description. I think it's one of the better time travel related movies I have seen, right up there with Primer.
"Burning" is a good movie of Jong-Seo Jun too, and Yoo Ah-in is in there, A Mystery Thriller Movie
i 100% agree on this, i saw her movie burning with steven yeeun and also read the 15 page book of it and i love it even tho it took 2 hrs to finish it and then saw this movie last last night. she is really a great actress
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My guess is that "Young-sook" and Seo-yeon's mother never died from the fall! They both survived and were unconscious at first. The mom woke up and dailed 911. After she made the call, she went upstairs to grab her daughter and they went to go hide somewhere in the house until the cops and the ambulance arrived. While they were waiting and hiding, "Young sook" awakened from her coma and ran away from the house; to avoid getting arrested." A few months later; they healed and recovered! Everything returned back to normal and they lived happily together, but just when things were going great...."Young sook" came back for revenge! She killed the mom and kidnapped "Seo yeon" so she could torture her again....which would explain why the mom disappeared while they were walking down the street at the end of the movie and the reason why "Seo yeon" was tied to a chair and panicking! Somewhere in the past before she became an adult; "Young sook" came back to get her and when it happened; it changed the present! I believe that "Seo Yeon" was held hostage and tormented from the time she was kidnapped by "Young sook"; all the way to the time she became an adult in the present age! She spent the rest of her childhood and her adulthood; being abused by "Young sook"... She abused her the same way her mother did to her. That happy sweet ending we saw was basically what would've been "Seo yeon's" future if "Young sook" would've died from the fall and did not awaken anymore...
This pretty much talks about everything! But now let me elaborate on the part when "Young sook's" future self called her old self in the past... I think maybe she wanted to make additional alternations! Perhaps she had more evil plans; other than what she had already done. Killing the mom and imprisoning "Seo Yeon" wasn't good enough for her....
Omg i know u not gonna read this but this is the best explanation ever it all make sense now . thanks
maybe the killer is immortal thats why the shaman mom prepared a talisman to prevent her from coming back to life when she stabs her with the blade
This is just ridiculous.
The only theory that makes sense that she survived the explosion, then the fall
lmao bye 😭💀
And she barely aged too so maybe shes immortal .. it makes sense very very very good movie 💯💯 i just watched it now so im looking for some ending explaination
A scarier explanation is that Seo-yeon has been captive in the basement for 20 years since 1999 and she just came into this version of reality.
if she was held captive 20 years she wouldnt be able to save YS from her mom when she grown up
@@joeytan9995 but she was only able to save her because ys saved her dad
Thankkk youu so muchhh it makes so much sense now that you've explained it♥️
it makes sense that in the ending the villain ends up surviving the other girl dies, or whatever, but what if like history keeps repeating itself, like what if someone finds that phone again and connects with YS and everything happens all over again?
My thoughts exactly
YES I was thinking she maybe just would need to wait until next November and see if the phone starts ringing again. Only issue for her now is she's locked in a basement 😅 although I also wondered if the mom's preistess magic stuff is what caused the phone to do that in the first place. If she could replicate that somehow, she could potentially fix things without having to wait.
Thanks Chris for the explanation! So did YS trap SY in the basement for 20 years? Because in the present time we saw SY still walking even though her mom disappeared. Then there's the scene with her in the basement screaming. Wow, YS is such a good psycho killer who got away with everything.
That's what throw me off , they're can't be two sy , one in the basement and the other walking alone.
Thanks! I needed this explanation!
You did made it perfectly clear
thanks buddyyy🔥🔥🔥
I think Seoyone in the future was remembering her past how her parents died and saw how Yong Sook killed her parents and got a mental disease. when she was in the future with her parents it was just her imagination and the calls were also her imagination.
watched the last minutes a few more times to know whats going on , i watched a lot of korean movies like all the thrillers out there and this one is the best seat edge thriller of the year according to me..
Well explained - makes the ending more understood . Thank you Chris !
Thank you for The video , i am glad u did it in response to my comment on the previous review vid. :)
I think seo yeon has multiple personalty disorder. It was her all along.
damn
Yeah some reviewers saying its all her imagination
This what I think. It was established both girls hated their mother. I believe the version Sook killed was Yeon’s fantasy.
dam this comment just makes everything else more complicated mate im more confused and overthinking now...
@@bingbong3643 yeah and remember what she said to seo yeon, we are just the same. I mean i think she was traumatized during childhood that she needs to create a persona to save her father, remember? It was her who killed her father by accident not her mother but then she blamed her mother, because she can't take the pain of thinking she killed her father. I mean for her if she could turn back time to save her father.
Timeline 8A: The Call Ending Graveyard Scene Explained
In this timeline, Seo-yeon’s mother falls over with Young-sook in the past. While the mother survives, Young-sook dies. In the future, Seo-yeon finds that the old Young-sook who was moments away from killing her doesn’t exist and the house has gone back to being deserted. Her consciousness has now moved to Timeline 8A. There are no refrigerators which means Young-sook never began her killing spree. Seo-yeon meets her mother at her dad’s grave, and the two of them walk away happily. But …
Timeline 8B: The Call Ending Chair Scene Explained (Mid Credit Scenes)
In this timeline, thanks to the warning Young-sook has received from her older self, she takes corrective actions to ensure that she survives the fall. While not shown in the movie, Young-sook appears to have recovered and later found and killed Seo-yeon’s mother. This is why the mother disappears as the two of them are walking away. Young-sook has also kidnapped Seo-yeon and retained her as a hostage in the house’s basement. This way, there is nothing more Seo-yeon can do to jeopardize Young-sook’s path of mass murder. The film ends as Seo-yeon’s consciousness jumps into this nightmarish Timeline 8B.
In the ending of The Call, we come to realize that the shaman lady, Young-sook’s stepmother, was right about the deaths that Young-sook will cause. She tries to avert it by killing her. But fate had it designed such that a phone call to the future allows for Young-sook to escape death time and over and unleash her darkness.
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This was already told in video but thanks
@@maxnp7369 yes 🙂 just commented it so others can read it slowly 🤣
that means its seo-yeon's fault because she told young-sook is gonna kill on that night by her step mother. if she didn't told that its already happily ever after with her mother and father lol. i noticed in the early scene seo-yeon ask young-sook if she want to know her future but young-sook said "No". but she still want to search what seo-yeons social media account or her future lol.
@@reguluscrisostomo9037 i mean she caused all that to happen but you technically can't blame her. she felt gratitude because she has a new life with her now alive dad because of YS
Okay please explain to me how young sook managed to call her younger self. I mean if that was her from the present that means she survived the fall so why does she have to warn her younger self if she already survived? Please explain im so confused about this part
Thank you for this clear and calm explanation, I needed this. I loved the movie, like all of Korean cinema. Every Korean film I've seen so far (a lot) was amazing!
That was a very great explanation and now I want to watch it for myself because to be honest that is an amazingly written script filled with many plot twists and a crazy but believable ending
Excellent and crazy film! Too bad she told the lunatic that she was caught and went to prison for life. Very bad move. I agree with your assessment of the ending. No happy ending in this film. The psycho wins.
I dont like this ending at all. Usually i dont mind evil win over protagonist but in this movie. The protagonist isnt 100% good, she already recieve her punishment, on the other side, the psycho girl kill bunch of people and didnt get any punishment. It just like The last of us 2 when director & writer favorite 1 side of the coin and let that side complete win without any lost while the loser lost everything
Dude actually people are coming out with a theory that both 2 SY and YS are same persons😁
The only thing that I don't understand is the burned girl Young-sook Stepmother finds in the store
That's the lady who is visited by sy in the present in a store
Thank you 🙏 Movies and Munchies.
great analysis !
There was this part when (past)Young-Sook told (present)Seo-Yeon how his Dad really died and how (past)Seo-Yeon lied to the police and blamed her mom. I think both characters are just the same and the serial killer (past)Young-Sook is just inside (present)Seo-Yeon's head. I feel like the killer is a serial killer adult personality of (past)Seo-Yeon and how she feels like hating and killing her own mom.
At first, the movie seem flawed because the mom shouldn't be alive at all in the present if the killer had survive the fall. But if you think deeper. I believe the movie was correct on how the mom blinked out of existence after the killer had survive the fall. Take the dad for an example. the dad was alive in the present and only blink out of existence after the killer killed him. Meaning in some other past reality, the killer never kill the dad, that is why he was alive in the present day. Same go to the mom, in some other past reality, the killer didn't survive the fall, so she still exist in the present. But since the killer received a phone call from the future killer. She was prepared and survived. And kill the mom after a couples of hours after the fall. At the point when the killer received the phone call from the future killer, the mom's fate and the future was unclear and play out as time go by in the past.
yes, the future changes per instance from the past, not cumulative, which is why the mom survived in the future for a some time.
But how did the the present killer reached the present in the first place?
@@amaramoramei9959 I think what made it confusing was that the future killer looks the same age somewhat as the past killer, but in actuality she has aged 20 yrs. She is still present in current time because she burnt the evidence of the knife hence she never got caught and is still on the loose.
@@SaranghaeOppa I know that but what confuses me is that the fight with the mother was supposed to happen no matter what, so she calls her past self telling her that she might die today and she should keep the phone no matter what to survive but my point is how did the present killer survived if she didn't have the help of her future self to begin with? And also why did her scars transfer to Say's mother? What was replaced?
@@amaramoramei9959 Aww, I see what you are saying. My guess is that the past killer didn't die and she didn't kill the mom either. So both exist in the present. The past killer probably had some nasty fight with the cop and barely escape with her life. That's why she called to warn her past self. The event play out differently after the future killer call. So the scar might be from fighting with the cop instead of fighting with the mom. Anyway, that is my guess.
that’s well explained! thanks!
Great explanation, thank you!
Seriously one of my new favorite movies ever. It’s actually not confusing as it seems and you did a fantastic job pointing that out. The past can continuously be altered by YS towards SY, but people don’t understand that changes only happen after they actually are made by YS, so that’s why at first it seemed like a happy ending but then at some point off screen YS in the past killed the mom of SY and kept SY in the past as a prisoner, following in the footsteps of her evil step mom. If you notice SY at the very end is wearing a white gown just like Past YS did while living as a prisoner with her are mom. Also to note, the step mom wore mostly all black clothing and YS at the end was wearing all black just like her. Now I know she’s gothic/grunge girl but still it’s a lot to connect from her past issues
It’s also interesting what her aunt said before she got killed. When Young Sook asks her why she wanted to murder her she says something like: „you’re a dangerous/murderous creature“ (I don’t remembered exactly) Because, we all thought she just spitted some crazy bullshit, but it’s also like a reference to Young Sook‘s murderous future.
thanks for this! i was so confused , movie was so confusing i wasn’t able to put things together but makes sense now… thank you!
thanks man, now I understand it!!!!!
I think it would be better if we ask the writer of the movie what had the real ending. Oh my head is pounding. Great movie haha 10/10
Who was rhe girl which was calling young-sook mother's 'auntie'? and why she had an injury on her leg?
its the girl that SY talks to about YS, where she lifts up the skirt and explains that she used to sneak candy into YS/s room and if her mom hadnt been there then YS wouldve killed the girl
it's the lady of the grocery store. YS did that to her as a child. YS's mom goes after killing YS after she sees what YS was capable of.
@@YTV_F is that why young-sook was locked in the house at the first place? When YS hurt the store owner? Can you explain the timeline of event?
@@yadvendraCE it doesn't explain exactly when YS did that to the store owner, but we can infer that. I guess YS was locked at the house because, as her mother was a Shaman, she had visions and could sense her hideous future
To those who dont know, Koreans call women older then them "ahjumma" which translates to "auntie" but that does not necessarily mean they are blood related. That's just how Koreans call each other.
Seo yeon also called the strawberry farmer "ahjusshi" which translates to "uncle" but they arent related. It's just he is much older than her.
Thank you for explaining, I was very puzzled.
Thank you
I have a feeling Young-Sook and Seo-Yeon are the same person. Seo-Yeon had a mental disorder which I believe called paranoia. Everything that happen is just imagination of Seo-Yeon's mind. And she created Young-Sook personality as someone to blame for her past action. This is a psychological thriller! Reminds me of a movie called High Tension where the killer and the victim are the same person! 😃
For those still confused about that post credit scene, I don’t think it was the same storyline. I think it was an “alternate ending” just to keep us on the edge of our seats. Also Korean films don’t tend to have sequels.
Park shin hye (the actress that plays present girl) is an amazing actress and you should check out her other thriller movie “#Alive”!!
This movie was really good.. I appreciate your clear explanation cause I was a bit confused. I can’t wait to watch this again to pick up on more stuff honestly.
Thank you for explaining 💜 got me kind of confused with the YS and SY there for a bit
Ending Explained:
Everything that happened in the past, every second and every act of past would would affect the present in the same time 20 years ahead now. That explains why the red message on the floor. When Young-sook in the past wrote the message, the reality in present was the same (message appeared), but when Young-sook erased it, the reality in present was changed at same time.
Now, the reason why Young-sook vanished is because Young-sook in the past at that time(when the mother pushed her) didn't make it (so in the present SY met her mom). After few hours she woke up Young-sook killed SY's mom and caught SY. That's why, in the present SY jumps into reality where she has been kidnapped by Young-sook.
Baseline is Young-sook might have flat lined for sometime, till which SY got chance to run to the police and visit her Dad's grave.
But eventually Young-sook won. WE CANNOT CHANGE OUR FUTURE WITHOUT AFFECTING A WHOLE LOT OF SHIT !
So basically, we have an alternate ending version. Very clever of director to end in such a note. The last few seconds increased the complexity by multiple folds. Great movie. Absolute Thriller.
Explained clearly ..thankss
Woaah yeah that explains everything really
wait. but then why after young-sook disappeared in the present the whole house changed to being all worn down and crumbly
This dont add up .... if YS does end up locking up SY that means SY would never get the chance to save YS from getting murdered by her step mom so according to that logic YS would be dead and SY would be free also the reason why YS dissapeared when almost killing adult SY wasnt because she died from falling but because she would have never been fighting with SY (again shes locked up in the basement )
@@al8773 Same thoughts here... because if Seo-Yeon was locked up at the basement, the first call should have never happened, therefore completely removing the entire plot of the movie...so I'm still left confused here.
Because if others say Seo-Yeon and Young-sook are the same person (multiple- personality disorder) then there would be no father to save, Young-sook would be eventually killed by her shaman mom and we still wouldn't have a story...
I think I’ve got it.... try to stay with me 😂
When YS and the mom were thrown over the balcony, they both lived. YS disappeared from the present with SY because the path she was on has changed.
In the end credits, we see the older, present day YS calling her younger self. This YS we see, is the same YS that was thrown over the balcony with the mom 20ish years earlier (again, in which they both survived *movie shows flashback of a bloody YS waking up after being thrown off the balcony*). She (YS) waited 20ish years - to call her younger self on that phone and warn herself about the cop and the mom showing up. She tells her younger self to “keep the phone,” this will prevent present SY from warning her (past) mom.
The mom and cop dies in the past and young SY is taken prisoner. Altering the future again. This is why the mom flickers and disappears in the present and we see SY tied up in the basement.
I think YS will always have the upper hand, she can always alter the future/present if she is alive. All she has to do is wait for the right time to call back to her younger self to warn her of what is to come (however time travel works on that phone)
This was my same understanding 👌🏽 she survived the fall...waited the 20 years...to call her past self and change the future which is how SY remained in the chair (cause mom and cop couldnt rescue her)
Good explanation
just saw this movie & I gotta say you cleared up that ending for me like no other 👍🏽 Bravo
and here we thought sy's mom on the final scene before the credits was actually ys because of the scars that were occasionally focused along the scenes where ys is shown
but how did the present young sook know that the cop and mom would arrive at the past young sook's place? If both the events are happening simultaneously.
I was really taken by the film. Reminded me of the Dennis Quaid/ Jim Cavievel film of 2000, "Frequency".
I thought that writer/ director Chung-Hyun Lee's script was very tight, and created a nice conceit, avoiding the parallels that shouldn't be plausible in exactly the way you mentioned.
It is a roller coaster ride, and as tight as a new catcher's mitt.
My Goodness ! thanks a ton for this explanation sir, You explained it so damn perfectly you are absolutely correct, thanks a lot for this.
Wait, this doesn’t make sense. Please hear me out.
When present YS tries to kill SY, YS disappears because the past young YS falls from upstairs and dies.
Movie countless times shows that if a character dies in the past then they disappear in the future (present).
Meaning the scenes from post credit doesn’t make sense. It shows that past YS waking up from the fall then the future YS should have never disappeared in the first place.
What if she didn’t die. What if the true timeline is that she survived, and captured SY as a kid, forever locked in the basement. That would make the present timeline impossible, so YS disappears.. and so does SY. The entire timeline disappears. The only plot hole is that There is a bit of time lag where SY got to meet her surviving mother, but as the ending reveals, she is locked in the basement. Maybe the time lag is due to the fact that YS was injured from the fall so she passed out/had trouble moving as quickly to kill the mom and tie up kid SY
@@Lili-cc7pz It is simple. The rule in this film was when present character disappears that mean their past self had died. YS being injured and waking up from that fall should have never made present YS disappear in the first place. Some say it is because YS passed out but that doesn't matter at all. YS still surviving should have never made present YS disappear.
If a person had their dream job interview following month at 5 pm, it doesn't matter they fell and injured themselves, they will go to that interview at 5 pm because that person already had plenty of time to heal. Same thing. YS fell and yes she was injured but she probably healed in few weeks but she had many years before she was at this room with SY trying to kill SY. So there is no reason the present YS disappearing.
@@MusicLuv80 I agree. That mid credit scene makes no sense.
You got it wrong. YS did not disappear. SY got moved from her current situation and location to a new one because the events that happened in the past caused this. This has happened before in the film without anyone dying. The fact that SY's mom jumped off the balcony and brought YS changed the present SY's situation and that is why she is moved, not because YS died or disappeared. Then, after YS wakes up from the fall, she calls her present self to again change the present and learn how to kill SY's mother and capture SY. This is why SY is again moved from walking with her mother to the chair in the basement, because the call between past and present YS changed the present once again.
@@katelevin768 When did that ever happen, without anyone dying?
There is no double ending! When SY woke up in the room with the fridges, she missed the first call. 2019 YS picked up and reminded 1999 YS to change the reality. It explains why there was a scene when they were fighting to get the phone. 1999 YS killed her mom and police, continuing killing people and kept SY in the basement all this time. She released her in exchange to force her doing exactly what to do when she picked the phone from 1999 YS for the avoid 1999 YS being killed by her step mother. It explained why she was not faded at the end (in the cemetery means she is free) even though her mom was. Of course if we ignore logics of why YS never get caught by the police for the past 20 years.
I was guessing the same. You got that spot on in my opinion!! 👍👍👍
Thank u so much for this. I've been thinking about this movie all by myself but still can't figure it out, hahaha thanks again!
I'm glad it helped!
The protagonist herself has MPD and it’s all her doing. Reminded me of “A tale of two sisters” great watch 👍🏼
Im still confused about the photo that SY saw early in the movie. Who took YS photo in that red shirt, and it is taken on 28th of november 1999
yo wth i wonder too
she had no social life,it might be the strawberry farmer i dunno they seem close as if they knew each other or some of her friends before her mom became a crazy shaman
It makes perfect sense now. thank you
I think you summed it up quite well, which couldn't have been easy. :)
Thanks! I edited out about 15 minutes because I kept getting myself confused :-)
@@MoviesAndMunchies I can well imagine. That was some pretty complicated exposition. :)