I think for counter subs like all DDs should have sub surveillance or an extra proc to hydros for increased detection range or a new mechanic like a baked in proximity rpf but not live update to give subs some chance to manoeuvre.
exactly! why can't a destroyer get the sub surveillance...it's just like another ship, what the device is too big to put on a destroyer but ok on a cruiser haha
Finally got the Gdansk back doing research (double points) I will take advantage of warships new operations mode and your tips , hopefully I have got a dd that I will enjoy btw I like the katonis in operations so the rest should be history.
Yeah in terms of DPM they are comparable, small and still has more DPM, but gadansk has the accuracy and shell ballistics to make up the difference. At range you will beat him out. If he gets too close tho, balls in his court.
I’m getting so sick of subs myself mate, there is so many occasions where one (especially that fucking Gato) just shotguns you and you have no defence,especially when playing a ship that doesn’t have ASW planes. Hydro barely works on them, it’s a joke, the hydro if anything when active should detect them way further out than it detects surface ships. But this is still little help to ships that don’t have hydro.
11:20, don't agree. This was not your fault. Katsonis and this Gdansk stop like Australian Outback-trucks or "Road-Trains". Somehow the steering feel you get is that of an Elbing. Just trying a new build with Steering Gears Mod1 instead of Propulsion Mod1 and realised that Prop Mod1 does not say anything about increasing deceleration speed - only acceleration speed. Also, I omitted the longer radar duration because 20% of 10 sec is not enough for a full pulse of 5 sec. and added more HP. I will try this in my second game. In my first try-out (Co-Op), as soon as I finally stopped a wall of torps appeared and even with "PropMod1" and "Engine boost" I still ate two of them because "this truck don't move once it's stopped". 😞 Thank you for your gameplay and great suggestions and insights - as always, obviously. 👍
yeah i know, i'm not liking the engine stop feature you would think if it can accelerate fast then it would be able to accelerate back and stop as well haha, thanks for watching!
Appreciate your explanation of strategy. The T9 is terrible, T8 wasn't great. Just picked up the Gdansk yesterday, but haven't played a game with it. It looks like it would be strongest in Ranked or CBs, but just having decent torp range and faster reload compared to T9 will be a help. Good vid.
@@oneangrycanadian6205 at least Smolensk was coal ship and after the multiple nerfs is still super strong! It is pretty annoying to grind a line ship that need so much time to invest and after that nerf it ! At least now Smolensk is rare ship like my Småland and can't be touched anymore!
Dude... you always and I mean ALWAYS take Survivability Expert and Preventive Maintenance on DDs. There is no point of taking some shit skill like Main Battery and AA Specialist over SE.
yeah it depends on what you want to do, for this i focus on gun reload, def preventive maintenance so my steering and engine isn't all lost..thanks for the input! Thank you!
@@RIPPERDD First 10 skill points are allocated same every time. Look on some Gdansk builds or any other gun dd builds none of them doesnt have SE and PM. Even torp ships like Shima does have SE and PM.
16:00 "Everything is in favor of the submarine and nothing is in favor of the ships. I just don't think that's realistic for a WWII game. Subs have all the advantages. I'm a destroyer, it's not my job to hunt subs. None of my weapons are effective against subs. It's not fair that subs have better detection than DDs, they're like UFOs. It's ridiculous that I have to be over the target to drop my depth charges... etc. etc." 18:00 Ripper sinks the sub without taking a scratch and returns to the battle. LOL!
I hate this ranked season. Previous I played in gold league, this one I don't even try, just grab my steel and all. There are a lot of of stupidness in bronze league on tier 10 at least on EU server wherr I play
Subs are too fast and maneuverable in this game - unlike in real life back in WW2/Korean War era. That is where wargaming needs to adjust subs first and foremost. Subs need to be less aggressive than they currently are and nerfing speed + maneuverability is what needs done to them to make them more viable. Next hydro needs to be more effective against them to help eliminate shotgunning which is very unrealistic. I am thinking that within 4-5km there should be at least be a 30% chance to detect subs around every 15 to 25 seconds as baseline for subs (perhaps unless they are not moving at all - aka being totally silent/passive).
@@RIPPERDD Actually as long as they are in range of hydro (no matter what the range because some ships like German ones specialize in it) and moving at least more than 1/4 speed then there should be periodic checks for subs with a chance of success every few seconds (which increases as the the sub moves faster). That is very much the kind of things you saw going on in the WW2 sub movies - fear of being pinged and not moving or barely moving around ships that are pinging.
Pick Daring, tank the short radar, then keep it spottet for your team. If the Gdansk is alone: Tank the radar, get close and murder the clunky, squishy thing. British, french and russian DDs just murder the Gdansk. IMO the thing is highly overrated. Strong, but overall not the strongest T10 techline DD. That would still be Daring and Kleber.
@@Fackeldackel Nice plan but you forget that mostly on cap, he will not be facing towards you but will be turned so can quickly run. It will hit you for 10k from smoke/radar combo and if you still charge him he will just sail away...and you will not hunt him to other side of cap when you can be easily killed by his team. And in 60 seconds his radar is back. Also it is much usefull in farming BBs/cruisers than Daring. I play against mogador. He was on the edge of cap. Hit him with radar/smoke and when he was leaving behind rock he was left with few K HP and die one minute later.
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 That is a theory. So far i never had any issues with enemy Gdansks, they have always been rather easy to kill or zone out of the game. By now i even rarely see any of them on EU. So far i would still pick my Daring over the Gdansk any time.
@@Fackeldackel The problem is that Gdansk is played differently than Klebér. It has to be played quite carefully in the beginning because it is not very agile (turning radius, less speed than kleber) and doesnt have french saturation or heal. So definitely don't rush to the cap, but you can stay behind it and if there is no radar ship then radar red dd yourself and use smoke and radar to take their HP down. In my opinion, the ship is stronger in the end game, when the ships have low hp and can be easily killed with the radar. I think it's a really strong ship, but because it's new, a lot of people can't play with it properly. I'm also still learning how to play it best.
I blacklist every sub grub... just bad players that can't shoot to save themselves and are yet to put the time in as some have to learn to play. The only time I see a blacklisted is if they're paired with a non blacklisted. So I do seem to get hardly any sub grub games... although sometimes ques are longer with 16 subs qued the other day... wtf so many bads coming for easy WarmoneyGrub mechanics for kills.
yeah i'm not really sure what the blacklist does, maybe it keeps you from playing with that player, i just know you don't hear from them anymore if on the list, someone let us know in comments, Thank you!
@@RIPPERDD So far I've seen once 2x subs that were previously blacklisted... that was after a lot of games. The only other sub games i get is when its 2x subs of which one is yet to be blacklisted. Other than those rare a few occasions, have been in ques of up to 16 Subs (not even joking, bad players will always jump on the cheat wagon) and was placed in game after game without any subs.
I don't agree with you. It is OP ship. Should have never been brought to this game. It's as OP as Smolensk on entry, Giulio Cezare and Imperator Nikolai I. Hybrid BB's, subs, radars everywhere, destroyers with planes, destroyers with radar... Minefields coming soon :/ I notice I have less and less fun playing WOWs, and I do that less and less often. Or I play low tiers in other to avoid all this BS.
I think for counter subs like all DDs should have sub surveillance or an extra proc to hydros for increased detection range or a new mechanic
like a baked in proximity rpf but not live update to give subs some chance to manoeuvre.
exactly! why can't a destroyer get the sub surveillance...it's just like another ship, what the device is too big to put on a destroyer but ok on a cruiser haha
Ripper: 'Hey guys this is my new favorite dd because it always wins. Anyhow it's not overpowered.'
yeah i can't say OP on the internet...bad words haha
another awesome and knowledgeable video, thanks ripper.
Thank you!
Finally got the Gdansk back doing research (double points) I will take advantage of warships new operations mode and your tips , hopefully I have got a dd that I will enjoy btw I like the katonis in operations so the rest should be history.
Me too! Thank you!
Nice to see you again ripped.
Thank you! good to see you too!
An honest review luv it
yep still love it
So so funny I didn’t realize there was no ap rounds lmao til ripper just said so.
yeah my habit is to switch to AP but oooopss haha
@@RIPPERDD mine to my friend lol
I had a Smaland run from me in the ship before the Gdansk, was stunned. Cannot wait to play this.
Yeah in terms of DPM they are comparable, small and still has more DPM, but gadansk has the accuracy and shell ballistics to make up the difference. At range you will beat him out. If he gets too close tho, balls in his court.
yeah this thing eats the smaland for some reason
I’m getting so sick of subs myself mate, there is so many occasions where one (especially that fucking Gato) just shotguns you and you have no defence,especially when playing a ship that doesn’t have ASW planes. Hydro barely works on them, it’s a joke, the hydro if anything when active should detect them way further out than it detects surface ships. But this is still little help to ships that don’t have hydro.
i couldn't agree more...there is no play against subs at least give me something to detect direction
11:20, don't agree. This was not your fault. Katsonis and this Gdansk stop like Australian Outback-trucks or "Road-Trains".
Somehow the steering feel you get is that of an Elbing. Just trying a new build with Steering Gears Mod1 instead of Propulsion Mod1 and realised that Prop Mod1 does not say anything about increasing deceleration speed - only acceleration speed. Also, I omitted the longer radar duration because 20% of 10 sec is not enough for a full pulse of 5 sec. and added more HP. I will try this in my second game. In my first try-out (Co-Op), as soon as I finally stopped a wall of torps appeared and even with "PropMod1" and "Engine boost" I still ate two of them because "this truck don't move once it's stopped". 😞 Thank you for your gameplay and great suggestions and insights - as always, obviously. 👍
yeah i know, i'm not liking the engine stop feature you would think if it can accelerate fast then it would be able to accelerate back and stop as well haha, thanks for watching!
Appreciate your explanation of strategy. The T9 is terrible, T8 wasn't great. Just picked up the Gdansk yesterday, but haven't played a game with it. It looks like it would be strongest in Ranked or CBs, but just having decent torp range and faster reload compared to T9 will be a help. Good vid.
Thank you! yeah you'll love the gdansk
Agree about submarines
amen!
the focus dude.
haha that's how you win! haha
The sad part is i will start grind and soon they will nurf it! it happened so many times, all say its broken...
I hear ya my friend. Happened to me many times also. Especially when I got my Smolensk
@@oneangrycanadian6205 at least Smolensk was coal ship and after the multiple nerfs is still super strong! It is pretty annoying to grind a line ship that need so much time to invest and after that nerf it ! At least now Smolensk is rare ship like my Småland and can't be touched anymore!
@@rowinglove4ever oh I agree 100%
agree Thank you!
Good boat.
yep agree! Thank you!
It is playable without concealment exp and use surv exp instead?
yeah that's what i've been doing lately...as soon as i get spotted boom i pop radar...Thank you!
Thanks Ripper
thanks for watching!
Dude... you always and I mean ALWAYS take Survivability Expert and Preventive Maintenance on DDs. There is no point of taking some shit skill like Main Battery and AA Specialist over SE.
yeah it depends on what you want to do, for this i focus on gun reload, def preventive maintenance so my steering and engine isn't all lost..thanks for the input! Thank you!
@@RIPPERDD First 10 skill points are allocated same every time. Look on some Gdansk builds or any other gun dd builds none of them doesnt have SE and PM. Even torp ships like Shima does have SE and PM.
16:00 "Everything is in favor of the submarine and nothing is in favor of the ships. I just don't think that's realistic for a WWII game. Subs have all the advantages. I'm a destroyer, it's not my job to hunt subs. None of my weapons are effective against subs. It's not fair that subs have better detection than DDs, they're like UFOs. It's ridiculous that I have to be over the target to drop my depth charges... etc. etc." 18:00 Ripper sinks the sub without taking a scratch and returns to the battle. LOL!
yeah i feel the same way
Good players always focus dds
yeah me too! be the loudest player! haha
@@RIPPERDD I am learning to DD from you. As a BB main I am pained by DD losses at start- time to be the change myself.
im starting to call it the GD! anks! =0
haha ok
I hate this ranked season. Previous I played in gold league, this one I don't even try, just grab my steel and all. There are a lot of of stupidness in bronze league on tier 10 at least on EU server wherr I play
yep i feel i have less stress just by playing for the steel. Thank you!
But way less stupidity than in randoms….
Subs are too fast and maneuverable in this game - unlike in real life back in WW2/Korean War era. That is where wargaming needs to adjust subs first and foremost. Subs need to be less aggressive than they currently are and nerfing speed + maneuverability is what needs done to them to make them more viable.
Next hydro needs to be more effective against them to help eliminate shotgunning which is very unrealistic. I am thinking that within 4-5km there should be at least be a 30% chance to detect subs around every 15 to 25 seconds as baseline for subs (perhaps unless they are not moving at all - aka being totally silent/passive).
yes perfect, thanks for the comment!
@@RIPPERDD Actually as long as they are in range of hydro (no matter what the range because some ships like German ones specialize in it) and moving at least more than 1/4 speed then there should be periodic checks for subs with a chance of success every few seconds (which increases as the the sub moves faster). That is very much the kind of things you saw going on in the WW2 sub movies - fear of being pinged and not moving or barely moving around ships that are pinging.
the whole silent game is missing from game play@@toddashley407
I don't like subs or CVs. I do not like the Katsonis. I do like the Split , Grom, and Gdansk. I play Gdansk in Ranked now besides Daring and Smaland.
i do not like green eggs and ham sam i am haha
How to play against gdansk?
Pick Daring, tank the short radar, then keep it spottet for your team. If the Gdansk is alone: Tank the radar, get close and murder the clunky, squishy thing. British, french and russian DDs just murder the Gdansk. IMO the thing is highly overrated. Strong, but overall not the strongest T10 techline DD. That would still be Daring and Kleber.
the high dpm gun boats can take on a gdansk IMO...kleber, marceau, sherman druid...these guys can do it
@@Fackeldackel Nice plan but you forget that mostly on cap, he will not be facing towards you but will be turned so can quickly run. It will hit you for 10k from smoke/radar combo and if you still charge him he will just sail away...and you will not hunt him to other side of cap when you can be easily killed by his team. And in 60 seconds his radar is back. Also it is much usefull in farming BBs/cruisers than Daring. I play against mogador. He was on the edge of cap. Hit him with radar/smoke and when he was leaving behind rock he was left with few K HP and die one minute later.
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 That is a theory. So far i never had any issues with enemy Gdansks, they have always been rather easy to kill or zone out of the game. By now i even rarely see any of them on EU. So far i would still pick my Daring over the Gdansk any time.
@@Fackeldackel The problem is that Gdansk is played differently than Klebér. It has to be played quite carefully in the beginning because it is not very agile (turning radius, less speed than kleber) and doesnt have french saturation or heal. So definitely don't rush to the cap, but you can stay behind it and if there is no radar ship then radar red dd yourself and use smoke and radar to take their HP down. In my opinion, the ship is stronger in the end game, when the ships have low hp and can be easily killed with the radar. I think it's a really strong ship, but because it's new, a lot of people can't play with it properly. I'm also still learning how to play it best.
subs suuuuuuuuukkkkkk!!!!
Haha Thank you!
I LOATH Subs.
yep me too!
I blacklist every sub grub... just bad players that can't shoot to save themselves and are yet to put the time in as some have to learn to play. The only time I see a blacklisted is if they're paired with a non blacklisted. So I do seem to get hardly any sub grub games... although sometimes ques are longer with 16 subs qued the other day... wtf so many bads coming for easy WarmoneyGrub mechanics for kills.
yeah i'm not really sure what the blacklist does, maybe it keeps you from playing with that player, i just know you don't hear from them anymore if on the list, someone let us know in comments, Thank you!
@@RIPPERDD So far I've seen once 2x subs that were previously blacklisted... that was after a lot of games. The only other sub games i get is when its 2x subs of which one is yet to be blacklisted. Other than those rare a few occasions, have been in ques of up to 16 Subs (not even joking, bad players will always jump on the cheat wagon) and was placed in game after game without any subs.
This thing out guns premiums, so annoying to play against.
yeah it's that 9 km radar and smoke haha
I don't agree with you. It is OP ship. Should have never been brought to this game. It's as OP as Smolensk on entry, Giulio Cezare and Imperator Nikolai I. Hybrid BB's, subs, radars everywhere, destroyers with planes, destroyers with radar... Minefields coming soon :/
I notice I have less and less fun playing WOWs, and I do that less and less often. Or I play low tiers in other to avoid all this BS.
Booooo!!!!!
yeah i want to agree with you but i can't say OP on the internet for some reason haha but thanks for watching!