+Joseph Mort Think of it as a strategic thing, Alistair is a new king and unlike Anora, he';s not all that good with intrigue, that show of respect from the most badass person in the country is probably... Nah, who am I kidding she's the fucking queen, for fuck's sake bioware.
+Tol Hydra No, you had it right. Plus.. the in love thing.. LOL He did.. kind of have to sacrifice to Morrigan so just they could remain together. Perhaps she owe him because of that? I think she gets mad at him at the end of the cutscene though XD She only let's him kiss her on the chick : " you mf after all we've been through, you dare leave me alone to deal with this? Tf is wrong with you? I am your wife, leave me some soldiers at least.
ROFL maybe THAT'S why she didn't bother to message him and tell him that people were planning to assassinate her or that there was that creepy brood mother and architect so he could send some before it got so far out of hand. I always thought that was a bit odd. He's only in the Bannorn lol Fereldan isn't THAT big he could have sent SOMEONE to help
I bet she sent Alistair a passive aggressive letter after all was done. Dear husband, After you left me to deal with the vestiges of the Blight on my own, I encountered an intelligent darkspawn, rebuild the keep, encountered a broodmother uncovered a plot to assassinate me and brought Amaranthine from the ashes. But do tell, love, how was the business in the Bannon? Is Bann Coelic still arguing about his oaks? xoxoxoxo THE Queen.
@@JonathanLundkvist that actually would've been cool, maybe they planned to kill him but then he was too cowardly to die and escaped custody again, but is then caught by a grey warden who decides to imprison him for the player to decide his faith
You can definitely tell Awakening was written with a lower-tier Warden in mind. I love the Queen Warden ending of Origins but it meshes pretty badly with a lot of things that happen in Awakening. Templar Rylock was probably one of the more frustrating examples. I mean... really, lady? I understand you think the word of the Maker supersedes the crown's decree, but Jesus Christ, learn to pick your battles! You're seriously willing to kill the hero who slew the Archdemon, Commander of the Grey and WIFE to the fucking KING, the *QUEEN OF GODDAMN FERELDEN*, in order to apprehend a criminal who's already been legally pardoned for his crimes? *REALLY*???
Anyone else notice that as a female character in all dragon ages you can make a theme by dating or marrying some form of nobility. In Origins you can become queen with Alister. In Dragon age 2 you can get with Sebastian and basically become his princess. I guess in Inquisition you can get with a God so... eh... close enough?
If you are a Trevelyan you can form a powerful alliance with Antivan noblilty by romancing Ambassador Montileyet or much less immediate royalty by romancing Lady Pentaghast.
You could be in a romance with a Divine. Not officially marrying but the romance continues and she’s Divine. One of the most powerful people in Thedas.
Fandom Enforcer yep you can also find him voicing a templar at Ostigar and sounding just like Anders (the source of a headcanon I have of how Anders escaped from the circle)
This throws me off so bad. Anders voice actor in awakening is the same as Cullen in DA2 and DAI. I never played awakening but I've played inquisition multiple times so all I hear is a really sassy Cullen. Not the shy commander Cullen who I romanced.
The voice over actor was different in the two games, as was the character. I liked this Anders better: Wise cracking and not too serious. The DA2 Anders was apparently possessed by the spirit Justice. Anders had moments in DA2, but not like this.
_Oh-_ so, you say I’m an *“Indestructible Goddess”* to my face but suddenly, when I’m not around, I become *“The Old Ball & Chain?”* _I’ve killed an Archdemon before, you know!_
Warden Alistair talking about the love of his life: "She's and incredible woman, and if anyone can solve this issue, it's her. I've never been happier in all my life. I don't deserve her. I can only hope I make her as happy as she makes me." King Alistair talking about the love of his life: *"tiMe tO gEt BaCk tO tHe Old BalL aNd cHaIn"*
I don't. He's occasionally funny but there's nothing more to his character than drunk, dirty and rowdy, y'know, the default fantasy dwarf that the Microsoft paperclip writes automatically.
"Bann Douchebag, how are you? I haven't seen you in ages! Don't tell me for the first time in memory we are going to have a Landsmeet without a Douchebag?" "My dear Teagan, the bannorn has always had its share of Douchebags, and it always will."
@@HinataElyonToph no. That’s a bull shit answer. You’re telling me that someone who is specifically saying….”hey guys! I don’t want this responsibility.” “I’m not ready for it.” Somehow makes a good leader??? Absolutely not. This is the weird season 8 game of thrones logic. Can Alistair make a good king? Sure. It’s entirely possible, but not wanting to be king doesn’t automatically make someone a good ruler.
CDBookManGaming Kings generally are higher in rank than queens. In Chess, for instance, the queen is the most power piece but loosing the king will cost you the game, and not the queen.
In this case I'm pretty sure it's more of a programming thing. There's only two options where the Warden is of an equal social position to the monarch and so for the rest it fits that they would bow like that and I think that they just programmed the movements that way across the board. I think that a male warden-consort bows to Anora the same way so it's more programming the movements rather than making a statement about the relationship. After all, she called the shots all through the game and he point-blank refused to take flak for that from people because he had no problem deferring to her.
I'm curious, does Ogrhen speak as if he's never met you in Awakening, even if you picked him up along the way in the original game? I haven't played Awakening yet, due to time issues, and the fact that I did the Ultimate Sacrifice ending the first time but then (I replayed the game and made sure to bang Morrigan this time).
Benjamin Teng Oghren speaks as though you've known each other. When you first meet him, it's like old friends meeting, but you have to win his appreciation again no matter what it was on the Origins playthrough.
Benjamin Teng probably an error by the devs. I really disliked Oghren in Awakening,in DA:O he had a reason to be a drunktard,having to deal with all it has happened to him.He was actually funny,good hearted and felt like he was changing for the better. in Awakening,it's just there,bad jokes,no real connection with your warden,no dialogue,nothing,just bad jokes. The only thing that mattered if you brought Oghren to the circle.THat's it i would have liked to see sober Oghren and be friends with him if you and him survived in DA:O. The real reason behind that is that Gaider wrote Oghren in Awakening while Jay Turner wrote Oghren in Origins After that epic line at the gates "Let the stone turn red from the blood of the heroes.Today i will be the warrior you taught me to be" Awakening was a dissapointment.
I love Alistair as King. Mine is unhardened but damn, when we went against the Darkspawn he was a true King there! Slay King ! Voice actor voice is really sexy !
Now i am sad I chose to just be a grey warden with Alistair. If you do that he wont even appear 😢 I played the whole DLC thinking i would see him again.
Ahh Knight Templar Sir Rylock. I love how she gave me the first major reason why I should never support or trust the Templars after Origins. Greagoir, Bryant, Emeric, Thrask for the most part and eventually Cullen were good men. And that’s honestly the best I can say about the Templar Order.
@@feyefall4855 so the lady who voies Mandy in Grim adventures of billiy and mandy who also is currently the voice of Daphne in scooby doo and cat woman in the Arkham games is a bad voice actress i think not
In every one of my DAO games I have Alistair to marry Anora so,awakening can make sense. Beside I don't think a female Dalish elf would be accepted as queen since there is bad blood between the Dalish and Shems. There is hints that they are not married..One blaring example why would a husband give his wife a peck on the cheek when she's heading into a fight or why would a king send his queen into battle??
I usually have Alistair marry Anora too. Then she'll appear at the beginning of this DLC. The best is, if you marry Anora, she still acts like she married Alistair in this portion of the DLC on the XBox 360 only. Yeah, I reply quick.
This is super old but if you have the all can marry Alistair mod and romance/marry him as a Dalish elf then he grants Dalish a plot of land, so long as you request it! And then your guardian gets emotional at the end and it's Super Good Stuff
![Alistair cameo (King, Warden, Drunk) [all options] | Dragon Age 2](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/E2WIvguoWk4/mqdefault.jpg)
When I saw my Warden kneel I remember thinking "Of all the people in attendance, I'm probably the only one who wouldn't have to bow."
+Joseph Mort It would make sense not to, right? After all you've done, you still have to bow.
+Joseph Mort Think of it as a strategic thing, Alistair is a new king and unlike Anora, he';s not all that good with intrigue, that show of respect from the most badass person in the country is probably...
Nah, who am I kidding she's the fucking queen, for fuck's sake bioware.
+Tol Hydra No, you had it right. Plus.. the in love thing.. LOL He did.. kind of have to sacrifice to Morrigan so just they could remain together. Perhaps she owe him because of that?
I think she gets mad at him at the end of the cutscene though XD She only let's him kiss her on the chick : " you mf after all we've been through, you dare leave me alone to deal with this? Tf is wrong with you? I am your wife, leave me some soldiers at least.
ROFL maybe THAT'S why she didn't bother to message him and tell him that people were planning to assassinate her or that there was that creepy brood mother and architect so he could send some before it got so far out of hand. I always thought that was a bit odd. He's only in the Bannorn lol Fereldan isn't THAT big he could have sent SOMEONE to help
I bet she sent Alistair a passive aggressive letter after all was done.
Dear husband,
After you left me to deal with the vestiges of the Blight on my own, I encountered an intelligent darkspawn, rebuild the keep, encountered a broodmother uncovered a plot to assassinate me and brought Amaranthine from the ashes.
But do tell, love, how was the business in the Bannon? Is Bann Coelic still arguing about his oaks?
xoxoxoxo THE Queen.
"King Alistair, beware this man is a DANGEROUS criminal."
"Oh, the dwarf is a bit of an ass, but I wouldn't go that--"
"She means me."
Am I the only one who thinks Anders should been Jowan but then they realised Jowan never survives his playthroughs?
@@JonathanLundkvist that actually would've been cool, maybe they planned to kill him but then he was too cowardly to die and escaped custody again, but is then caught by a grey warden who decides to imprison him for the player to decide his faith
@@JonathanLundkvist You know there is a way to save Jowan, right?
@@alejandroyava How so? Is there away?
@@TadchaiSodtongkam The "run, I never want to see you again" option is you basically letting him go
You can definitely tell Awakening was written with a lower-tier Warden in mind. I love the Queen Warden ending of Origins but it meshes pretty badly with a lot of things that happen in Awakening. Templar Rylock was probably one of the more frustrating examples. I mean... really, lady? I understand you think the word of the Maker supersedes the crown's decree, but Jesus Christ, learn to pick your battles! You're seriously willing to kill the hero who slew the Archdemon, Commander of the Grey and WIFE to the fucking KING, the *QUEEN OF GODDAMN FERELDEN*, in order to apprehend a criminal who's already been legally pardoned for his crimes? *REALLY*???
That is so funny, it's was more written like the Grey Warden died on that Tower, were the final battle took place.
also a human noble character is basically like a Lannister for Ferelden they come from the most powerful family
Being Queen/King of Ferelden while simultaneously doing the job of a grey warden on a full time basis makes no sense in general.
@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer What was the actual reason that no one rode horses int his game? Engline limitations or something?
Cato Sicarius
I guess so. And they probably thought the sound of marching soldiers was more badass.
LOL "She means me" This line still makes me laugh, even long after playing Awakening.
I found it funny how the Queen has to bow to the King like a commoner haha
LilZombieGurl here, in this scene, she's rather in the position of the commander of the grey wardens than the queen
Anyone else notice that as a female character in all dragon ages you can make a theme by dating or marrying some form of nobility. In Origins you can become queen with Alister. In Dragon age 2 you can get with Sebastian and basically become his princess. I guess in Inquisition you can get with a God so... eh... close enough?
plumwinebunny Well, being the Inquisitor is it's own title, so you don't have to really worry about being a princess or queen
Tristan has a point!
If you are a Trevelyan you can form a powerful alliance with Antivan noblilty by romancing Ambassador Montileyet or much less immediate royalty by romancing Lady Pentaghast.
Solar is a God yes
You could be in a romance with a Divine. Not officially marrying but the romance continues and she’s Divine. One of the most powerful people in Thedas.
I always tell Oghren he's not allowed to spit.
Yeah you’d prefer him to swallow
Perfect example of Anders being so much better before Justice
I know, right? He wasn't so angsty and angry.
Real Anders died when he was possessed by Justice, imho.
Asha S wasn't he voiced by the VA who does Cullen in Awakening?
Asha S
Different writer.
Fandom Enforcer yep you can also find him voicing a templar at Ostigar and sounding just like Anders (the source of a headcanon I have of how Anders escaped from the circle)
This throws me off so bad. Anders voice actor in awakening is the same as Cullen in DA2 and DAI. I never played awakening but I've played inquisition multiple times so all I hear is a really sassy Cullen. Not the shy commander Cullen who I romanced.
The voice over actor was different in the two games, as was the character. I liked this Anders better: Wise cracking and not too serious. The DA2 Anders was apparently possessed by the spirit Justice. Anders had moments in DA2, but not like this.
_Oh-_ so, you say I’m an *“Indestructible Goddess”* to my face but suddenly, when I’m not around, I become *“The Old Ball & Chain?”*
_I’ve killed an Archdemon before, you know!_
doesn't he say "don't tell her i called her that" cause he knows. but yet he tries
Warden Alistair talking about the love of his life:
"She's and incredible woman, and if anyone can solve this issue, it's her. I've never been happier in all my life. I don't deserve her. I can only hope I make her as happy as she makes me."
King Alistair talking about the love of his life:
*"tiMe tO gEt BaCk tO tHe Old BalL aNd cHaIn"*
@@dmsviola1 I'm dead 💀😂
You can tell who wears the pants in the relationship if he makes sure she doesn’t hear his pet names for our warden 😂
@@dmsviola1 because they're spend whole ass family life fighters ;)
A kiss on the cheek? Seriously? Alistair, dude, you can do better than that, can't you?
Brad Torville You'd think he'd do better.
Brad Torville might of had some garlic or something foul smelling on his way there
Sea-bound Goron Probably some stinky cheeses xD Hah
Sydney MacDonald good one
+Brad Torville I think it was a whisper
Some templars are straight up psycho towards mages I swear
*Meredith flashbacks*
Man, i miss Oghren in new Dragon Age games.
He was an awesome character.
Yee.
I don't. He's occasionally funny but there's nothing more to his character than drunk, dirty and rowdy, y'know, the default fantasy dwarf that the Microsoft paperclip writes automatically.
My cannon is he died in a heroic fashion defending vigil’s keep
"WELL SMACK MY ASS AND CALL ME SALLY, *I'M IN* !"
Oghren, mah man.
Hold up! The voice of Anders in Awakening... Is that Cullen?!?!
Yep.
I feel like Alistair is so much better than Anora.... His character is so much more interesting, no matter what.
Derz Mo hear, hear!!!
"Bann Douchebag, how are you? I haven't seen you in ages! Don't tell me for the first time in memory we are going to have a Landsmeet without a Douchebag?"
"My dear Teagan, the bannorn has always had its share of Douchebags, and it always will."
+TakkunElwood Is this a real quote?
+Garrett Ivy Sort of -- it's reworked from an old SNL sketch called "Lord and Lady Douchebag".
ugh, I will never forget Blondie :( I love him so much damn. He's such a goofy bro.
The kiss on the cheek always bothered me so we had a falling out
Especially since he never shows up again.
It stinks Alistair doesn't come by if you make him stay a warden
“We’re taking this apostate to meet Justice!” Lol about that…
The real question is why alistair dont realize that oghren is here too. The should be friends or something...
“I know the dwarf is a bit of an ass, but...”
You're not smart
you know they say the person most fit to be ruler is the one who wants it the least. that’s why alistair is such a good king 💛
They don’t say that!
@@johnivory3245 they actually do. If someone wants to be in power they absolutely should NOT be in power
@@HinataElyonToph no. That’s a bull shit answer. You’re telling me that someone who is specifically saying….”hey guys! I don’t want this responsibility.” “I’m not ready for it.” Somehow makes a good leader??? Absolutely not.
This is the weird season 8 game of thrones logic.
Can Alistair make a good king? Sure. It’s entirely possible, but not wanting to be king doesn’t automatically make someone a good ruler.
I really hope they remaster this game. Dragon Age also deserves remaster like ME.
If they do, hopefully they'll also fix the bugs plaguing Awakening
This version of Anders will sorely be missed
Amen to that, sir.
All of that and my warden just gets a lousy cheek kiss? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
Why does the Queen bow to Alistair? That seems like a very controlling relationship. XD
It should be a little more equal, right?
CDBookManGaming Kings generally are higher in rank than queens. In Chess, for instance, the queen is the most power piece but loosing the king will cost you the game, and not the queen.
And you can always replace the Queen if you get your pawn across the board. What does that say?
In this case I'm pretty sure it's more of a programming thing. There's only two options where the Warden is of an equal social position to the monarch and so for the rest it fits that they would bow like that and I think that they just programmed the movements that way across the board. I think that a male warden-consort bows to Anora the same way so it's more programming the movements rather than making a statement about the relationship. After all, she called the shots all through the game and he point-blank refused to take flak for that from people because he had no problem deferring to her.
someonerandome2000 Yeah, just checked. Anora's husband bows to her the same way Alistair's wife bows to him. It's just programming.
1:47 There is no prof here that Anders was a murderer, at this time.
I'm curious, does Ogrhen speak as if he's never met you in Awakening, even if you picked him up along the way in the original game? I haven't played Awakening yet, due to time issues, and the fact that I did the Ultimate Sacrifice ending the first time but then (I replayed the game and made sure to bang Morrigan this time).
Benjamin Teng Oghren speaks as though you've known each other. When you first meet him, it's like old friends meeting, but you have to win his appreciation again no matter what it was on the Origins playthrough.
CDBookManGaming I see. Thanks a lot!
Benjamin Teng probably an error by the devs.
I really disliked Oghren in Awakening,in DA:O he had a reason to be a drunktard,having to deal with all it has happened to him.He was actually funny,good hearted and felt like he was changing for the better.
in Awakening,it's just there,bad jokes,no real connection with your warden,no dialogue,nothing,just bad jokes.
The only thing that mattered if you brought Oghren to the circle.THat's it
i would have liked to see sober Oghren and be friends with him if you and him survived in DA:O.
The real reason behind that is that Gaider wrote Oghren in Awakening while Jay Turner wrote Oghren in Origins
After that epic line at the gates "Let the stone turn red from the blood of the heroes.Today i will be the warrior you taught me to be"
Awakening was a dissapointment.
King Derner Cousland Yeah, it seemed Oghren had more chemistry with Anders at that point.
Anders is not bad,but i've heard that DA2 destroyed his character completely
1:13 Hey!? What am I!? Chopped nug livers!?
I wish I can find a middle ground between Anders and the templar. She looks like a decent templar member, if not too stubborn.
Unfortunately, Anders only gets worse in 2.
I love Alistair as King. Mine is unhardened but damn, when we went against the Darkspawn he was a true King there! Slay King ! Voice actor voice is really sexy !
Now i am sad I chose to just be a grey warden with Alistair. If you do that he wont even appear 😢 I played the whole DLC thinking i would see him again.
Ahh Knight Templar Sir Rylock. I love how she gave me the first major reason why I should never support or trust the Templars after Origins. Greagoir, Bryant, Emeric, Thrask for the most part and eventually Cullen were good men. And that’s honestly the best I can say about the Templar Order.
I Like Oghren's sense of Humor
Oghren's the best.
Ogren, the original Hawk Tuah! 😂
Ole girl is horrified! 😆
will queen Anora greet me like that if I manage to merry her on male char ?
This was a great dlc
that woman at Allistair's side has a terrible voice actress!
Not as bad as that one Dalish elf in the Brecilian forest. Yikes!
Whoat? Neveahhhr!
@@feyefall4855 so the lady who voies Mandy in Grim adventures of billiy and mandy who also is currently the voice of Daphne in scooby doo and cat woman in the Arkham games is a bad voice actress i think not
That is anders is it not?
Yes, it is.
In every one of my DAO games I have Alistair to marry Anora so,awakening can make sense.
Beside I don't think a female Dalish elf would be accepted as queen since there is bad blood between the Dalish and Shems.
There is hints that they are not married..One blaring example why would a husband give his wife a peck on the cheek when she's heading into a fight or why would a king send his queen into battle??
brakie44820 Nah, you can only be a human noble if you want to marry either Anora or Alistair, so if you prefer Dalish, this isn't an option.
CDBookManGaming That was quick. : )
Even my two games as a shem I still had Alistar to marry Anora .
I usually have Alistair marry Anora too. Then she'll appear at the beginning of this DLC. The best is, if you marry Anora, she still acts like she married Alistair in this portion of the DLC on the XBox 360 only. Yeah, I reply quick.
This is super old but if you have the all can marry Alistair mod and romance/marry him as a Dalish elf then he grants Dalish a plot of land, so long as you request it! And then your guardian gets emotional at the end and it's Super Good Stuff