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Never ever had it explained like that. It make so much sense. Thank you Professor Dave. Enjoying the channel. Tks for sharing.
Very welcome
Hi Dave, I'm not from America and I'm not sure if I'll ever get the chance to meet you so this is probably the only way that I can convey my thoughts to you. I came across your channel recently and I have been hooked. the first thing that caught my eye was how clean your shop is. This is very inspiring. Next up was your attention to detail. I have, in these few months learnt so much more just by watching your videos.
I'm a teacher and I taught your 4C's approach to my students. They've watched your videos and it has motivated them to strive for excellence. Thank you for taking the time to produce these videos. You come across as a very sincere and passionate man. I wish you and your team all the best in everything that you do. My students and I have subscribed to the channel as our gesture of support. God bless you and your team
That is wonderful to hear, and so encouraging sir! You are surely a master teacher Thank you for teaching the younger generation. Your good works will live on. God bless.
I have been doing mechanic work every day for 22 years and I still learn from your posts… even on stuff as simple as brakes! Thanks for sharing!
Wow, thanks!
Must not be a very good one if you need someone to instruct you on something so common sense….
@HurtsDogNutz WOW! Who hurt you in the past? 🤷♂️😊👍🏼
So nice to see someone take such pride and enjoy work. Thank you for all the videos and knowledge.
Man , I love it when you teach. You are such an expert and a joy to watch.
Hi Dave, I am Dutch, thank you for the kind words on Max and please come over to Zanvoort for a f1 race. On this side of the atlantic f1 teams have helped to streamline workflows like intersive care, ambulances and that kind of thing. The way those teams work has much more influance then people think
Hey Dave, I think you’re great. I’ve been a mechanic for 43 years. Learn a lot of stuff from you and I am very impressed.
F1 fan since 1960....thanks Dave.
As a Mercedes sprinter technician for a dealer, your videos are fantastic to watch being in the industry. Love the attention to detail and craftsmanship. Everything in this video is spot on!
Thank you very much!
@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville be careful, this shop is actually a scam that will put you out of buisness just with diagnostics.
Locals in the area are well aware of what these people actually have in mind with customers. They're liars.
Man just earned a subscriber, this guy reminds me of what the good old days use to be. Honesty, hard work, and caring. Which its something that’s pretty much dying in this world.
No one around here turns rotors they say it’s cheaper to get new ones
Dave your a natural at this
Cheaper to get aftermarket junk, yes.
Been wrenching on cars/trucks for about 30 years and it's probably been 3-4years since I've resurfaced a rotor. We ONLY did it that time because the veh owner was a good of the shop owner and a cheap ass, PLUS was made to sign a waiver agreement. On the other hand, a shop owner that runs a VERY piece of crap business i worked for (unfortunately) absolutely refuses to buy new rotors unless the old ones are BELOW DISCARD thickness and you'd get written up for recommending new rotors otherwise.
Here in rust prone areas, I've found that sandblasting the caliper bracket is the best. Pads slide smooth with 100% of the scale removed where the hardware goes. So easy to do and great results fast.
Well i.been doing breaks for over 40 years ,since the metal is Chinese made ,i dont turn them ,i just replace them , however i do gauge them for warpness and thickness...but Dave i love ya videos very informative. If I didn't have my own shop I would definitely come work for you.❤
I need to change my brake fluid. Thanks for the info! Great video! Ready to watch the next one!
Glad it was helpful!
I run a brake shop that my dad started 40 years ago we have 8 bays and 8 employees we haven’t turned a rotor in 20 years. Before you would have to wait a few days before you could get a rotor but with it so readily available and plus it takes twice as long to turn a rotor then it does to have a new one waiting by the time the car is torn down and put it back on instead of waiting 30 minutes to a hour turning a crap rotor.
I always just buy new rotors when it’s time for a brake job, living in the salt belt there’s just nothing left of them by the time the pads are gone anyways. Never cheap out on something critical like brakes 👍
Now I need a video from you on flushing anti-lock brake lines properly...
I love a good set of roters. And their is a difference. Dead on with the advice.
I used to turn drums & rotors at a gas station in 1979.
American made IRON!
I agree with every single thing you’re saying except for replacing rotors every time you replace brakes.
OEM rotors are way better than 99% of after market rotors!
@@FulghumCraft that could be true in most cases that I know with a dodge ram when they built these trucks he put everything cheap on them I have all the aftermarket parts I put on this truck are way better than the factory ones were to start with but I don’t know enough about the OEM and rotors to voice and opinion there I just know that they’re too expensive I have replaced all four rotors on my truck now and I can’t see that they’re not better or worse but they have been serving me well
Thanks for the Enlightment........
Awesome Master Class Dave!
This 🙌 whenever people come to me for brakes I make them get new rotors and pads if they want me to do it.
Amazing channel love the content been doing this trade for 20 years
Great to have experienced mechanics here. Appreciate Ya boss!
What a great teacher. Thanks man
This was good to hear. Agree with everything you said 👍
Love this channel. I know a lot of this simple stuff but the machining videos keep me comin back. Keep up the videos Dave
Thanks, will do!
Great video! Keep them coming!
Thanks! Will do!
I would say that at least 80% of the time I can turn a rotor, and still have enough left over for the next guy to at least have a think about turning them again. Unless something is wrong with the brake system like a frozen slider, or caliper, and the surface is all delaminated looking.
About a decade ago i was driving behind me brother and he ran a red light. I waited at the light and then met him on the side of the road like a quarter mile down the road. He told me his brakes failed. Research showed that his once turned rotor wore his pads down in months and flung his pads out of the caliper because the rotor was too thin and pads wore quicker then expected. It had only happen to one wheel but he had to replace all four rotors, pads and both of the front caliper😂s. Trying to save a buck cost him twice as much cause a proper brake job would have lasted quite a long time in conparison.
I think turning a rotor make sense for a engineer type that actually pays attention to their car and can see if something goes wrong.
Depends on the rotor. On small cars the rotors are so cheap you might as well change them. To throw away a Super Duty rotor is absurd.
We love using WorldPac at the shop too! Great video, I use the same methodology when doing brakes.
Attention to detail.... a lost art at a lot of places.Thank you for every single tid bit you care to share in these videos. Much appreciated. Can't wait for the Discovery Channel show!
So nice of you
Thats the best cccc ive seen anyone do on current brake situations, i remember our 1970s vehicles we could do a rotor lathe successfully but as brake and vehicle performance has increased so has running costs and i recently looked up the cost of a brake machine and honestly a set of rotors is the same price
Evidence i can show my clients. I appreciate your knowledge and time for education.
Wow, I’ve changed probably over 100 brake pads…… didn’t know the info about the brake fluid
Every time I watch your videos, I learn something. You are Awesome! Thanks for all your hard work and knowledge.
Perfect explanation that is exactly what I do as well so nice to see somebody else doing the same thing
Dave, everyone who wants to be a DIY’r should watch and listen to everything you have to say. Great stuff. Thank you.
Hey Dave, i'm not going to tell u that u missed something but for everyone else... Keep in mind the labor time that u have involved in turning the old rotors, u may get lucking and clean them up in one pass and stay in specs but most likely not.. Turning rotors is not a quick job, u may get 1/2 and hour or better in each rotor, depending on how bad it is. With the price of new rotors these days u may come close in labor time money turning old rotors then just replacing them in the first place, everything else the Dave says is true. And if u are trying to do on the car turning, forget it, setting that machine up is worse yet in labor time...
I'm sure Dave has no idea what he's talking about either
Wish I was near Utah! You philosophy and desire to fix the underlying designed issues is amazing!!
It is no question as to why you have flourished!
Endurance racing also has multiple cars on a team....and has been like that for decades.
Great info, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Next time I go through Utah I want to stop by and see your shop there in Centerville. I go through Utah that route when I visit family in Olympia WA.
Spot on..sounds of good facts
Great info Dave!
You know your stuff and very knowledgeable
I’m in the desert not much humidity. I’ve never changed brake fluid . My truck was 20 years old. You sound correct - 👌👍🙏
Another great video! Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm 44 and just started my business after a few years. all I can say is if you have great employees give them pay for performance on top of their normal pay. incentive literally means everything. it doesn't have to be much but something.
EXCELLENT Tutorial Sir😎🖖🏼
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the tips brother. Already practice those except changing brake fluid every 2yrs. But I'll start doing it now.
An old college roommate is the western USA rep for sprinter vans. Lives near Denver. The guy dealers call when they can't figure it out. I was surprised how many sprinters are in the western USA.
The mountain west is Full Of Them!
Howdy howdy from Tucson!
Hello Tucson!
Good information enjoy your videos
Thank you Mr. Dave, excellent information and very simple way to explain Onto why of things
Thanks for explaining about not turning the brakes. I now understand
Agreed, Dave. Replacement rotors are not that expensive and the time it takes to machine an already too-thin rotor only adds to the total time of the job. Preventive maintenance, done right, is always cheaper than a repair.
Yep I've never flushed brake fluid out of anything, although most vehicles around here (Canada) rust out a line or need calipers often enough the system gets drained.
I'm just here to see what the YT mechanics have to say. Appreciate the video Dave!
excellent
Yea my shop has started to stay away from turning rotors. We do full sets. Never pad slap either.
With your attention to detail and passion for doing things right, it should not be surprising that you’re a racing fan. I’m not a huge fan of Verstappen, but his accomplishments this year was astonishing. Once in a generation stuff. Love your channel!
Great notes on the brakes and glad to see you're an F1 Fan, me too since around when Jensen Button won his GP with Ross Braun. I thought I recognized your sound byte (GREAT Sound Byte BTW, I miss the V8's - a classic sound) with the logo as a drive by when they were using V8's at Spa. You need to come out to Austin COTA and see them next year. I'm an hour away and went yrs ago, it's an experience needless to day!!! And I followed Seb when at RB, so I like RB but LH is my preference now. Cheers!!!
I like watching you videos. Great information
Kevlar or Organics are great to match the face of old rotors. I had rotors last 150,000k's+ and over 12 years which 1 set of refacing and changing pads every 3 years or so. That's on a Holden Commodore. They were no name rotors as well but did seem thicker when I got em. I never ever had warpage issues either with em. I think brake pads have come a long way now.
Dave. Much much RESPECTS. I Watch your videos over and over and every time I watch I learn something new. Much much appreciated. Respects to you all. RESPECTS TO THE TEAM
Thank you for the compliment. I will tell you that YOU are the one who is choosing to learn. And that says a great deal about you.
👌🙏 hello you are right , but sometimes the customer can not offord it , even I tell them all your logic ❤
I’m ready for a certificate after watching this video. Class is session! Real technical stuff
Thank you for educating us. I love the visual explanations! You should have been called Prof Dave. 😉
Wow, thanks
Crazy. My dealership informed me I needed a front brake job. Part of the labor quoted was resurfacing rotors, not replacement. I think I’ll do it myself and make sure I install new rotors.
Rotors now are so quick to warp, if you turn them then they will warp even quicker. I’m with you, it’s better to just replace them.
Hygroscopic is what you meant. Hydrophilic would mean brake fluid would have the ability to dissolve in water. It's still a great video and explanation.
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
Wow, I was about to only change my pads on a 4 year old rotor. Thanks Dave.
Hydros Opie I thought was the correct terminology for moisture absorption Dave. Am I wrong? Love the knowledge you give out and your delivery is awesome. Never condescending and always on point.
Good stuff though, thx for the lecture..
Good information 👍
Thanks
What's that noise again 😂? Love the channel!!
I agree with this gentleman, the grease that he put on the calipers and clips makes a lot of difference. Even on something like a ATV. A John Deere gator to be exact.
I agree 1000% on both turning rotors. Especially with how cheap you can get parts online
Everything I buy is usually 1/2 or more off of what parts store wants
Get the rust cleaned out from under those clips. Turning rotors is almost like setting dwell and adjusting float height. I got the know-how. No need for it anymore.
I agree with what Dave is saying about the rear brakes on heavy vehicles👍🏻 I’m owner and lead tech at my shop and I work on light Asian vehicles I tell my customers for the rear brakes you can reuse the rotors as long as you don’t grind the rear. Honda accords don’t get deep lips on the edges that’s for sure!! I always recommend pads and rotors up front though they do 70% and the back only does 30%
When you go four sets of pads on a disc, the disc will be so thin that the pad will actually fly out the space of the carrier and then the piston will extend and the brake fluid will be gone.
That's the super fun way to do it.
Good Job Dave love your videos keep it up!!
It’s called a break in period. Even a brand new pad doesn’t make perfect contact. And when you use after market rotors like the ones in the video that aren’t zinc coated you risk damaging the pad surface. Secondly new pads and rotors have horrible stopping before the pads breaks in. That’s why a test drive is important before giving it to the customer. Most manufactures allow for pad replacement without resurfacing and or replacing the rotors. However I agree that replacing everything new is best. We tend to work on alot of fleet vehicle and cost is an issue. Great video truly admire what you are doing for the industry. Class act
Hi Dave,
I have a 2013 Toyota FJ Cruiser and I am getting steering wheel shake while braking at higher speeds over 50 mph (90 kmh). I still have material left on the front pads but I will change the disc rotors and pads early. Won’t forget to clean the sliding pins. And will do the rear brakes at same time too.
Thanks, John from Australia 🇦🇺
dear old dad used to go to the junk yard and get me a used set of rotors when it was time for a break job on my car. the pads were cheap lifetime warranty pads from autozone. i did the work myself.
An Architect here. These visual explanations are second to none! This helps me truly understand the concept behind not only replacing the pads but the rotors as well. Phenomenal job Dave with the penmanship! I would only suggest the year make and model you are working on so folks can search their vehicle. I can’t wait to see what’s next! -Disclaimer, I don’t even own a Sprinter van…
Great video, shops could play this in waiting area, make customers into believers and repeats
That would be cool!
Very useful.
Glad it was helpful!
Some is good, more is better, and too much is just right 👌
Agreed always do pads and rotors
I agree 100%.
Back in the day, we used to turn rotors all the time because replacing them was just too damn expensive. And you could get 1 or 2 turns out of them before you hit the minimum. These days, things have certainly changed. I just picked up a pair from Detroit Axle for like $50. And you are totally spot on about flushing the brake fluid. When I was running track events I did it every spring. One season I decided to skip it... and ended up having to take her down the escape road after a few hot laps. lesson learned
I just had a brake job done by my dealer. Front pads, rotors and brake fluid flush on a 2020 Silverado. Now I understand why the rotors and flush. Thank you Dave!
I agree with a lot that you say but cant agree with you here. There is a lot of times where you can turn a rotor and still have a professional in spec repair that is not even close to discard measurement.. Lots of things play a role on when and where not to do it. For example driving habits, environment, use of vehicle, and many more. We use a pro cut machine that is an on car lathe. It barely takes off anything if the rotor does not have a lip, warpage, or rust build up. I have proven that a lot of times by measuring before and after. No since in charging a customer 400$ for a rotor when it would cost 40$ to resurface both, which is what we charge.
If you want to have a life changing experience be on a racing team i was a mechanic on a dragster you see what people are made of
Good info!
Glad it was helpful!
Amen
Thank you for this video. True lifelong experience. Here in California, during early 2000 BAR was cracking down on brake rotor measurement and resurfacing. If the rotor had enough material for resurfacing, recommend resurface. Hopefully they changed that law by now. Brake rotor resurface should be illegal for safety purposes.
One thing i would add about the callipper holders and the stainless gliding inserts that the pads sit in.. as you said a thin layer.. espesially on those stainless ones.. but the real importaint is to have a komplete layer on the holder itselves that is the one that rusts.. and espesially here in Norway(plenty salt) this rutst fast, and expanding rust presses the stainless holder into the pads making a hanging brake,Exess heat,wear and consumption