Rare that as a united fan I offer sympathy and love to a Liverpool fan but bloody hell thank god you guys are ok! Looked an absolute disgrace from the outside, can't imagine being in that crush with your family. A full investigation into the policing of the match must take place and changes made or someday we're gonna see another avoidable tragedy
@@d.s.c8989 Heysel unfit for a final. UEFA, Belgian Police were at fault too. English teams got banned and 14 hooligans got charged. Unfortunately 60+ people died in that disaster. 1985 was peak (English) hooligan times in Football. Juventus were the victims there. Their Ultras still make banners for when LFC play them, sadly. Football stadiums changed for the better after those disasters in the 80's. - along with attitudes and behaviour . Hopefully things aren't regressing. Euro 2020 was a bad sign last year at Wembley......... LFC away support has been good natured since the 80's along with most English teams. It's the Ultra's of some continental teams who are a couple of decades behind in terms of changing tact....
As a student in Paris, I was "lucky" enough to experience french police brutality in student protests, occupations, etc. These guys are animals, they are incapable of doing their job properly, all they're looking for is an excuse to use violence, teargass, smoke bombs and plastic bullets. It's ridiculous how in Europe we look at USA's or Russia's police brutality and act all shocked, when in reality France's and many other European countries' police is just as brutal, if not worse.
Doing their job properly? I am sorry but you know what the police at the end is right? It is state owned monopoly on force. At the end their only end goal is to execute what they are told. Be it police men, army etc. Like the examples you have given and billion countless other examples in history, when push comes to shove they have only one master and thats the goverment. And this doesnt necessarily mean that the police men are bad people or that "they cant do their job right" (eventhough few of them cant ofcourse) or that having no police is a better alternative. When you are in army or in police force usually you go there partly with the idea to help people, but crucial part in these jobs is trusting the leadership for better or for worse. What I am basically trying to point out eventhough having police is good and when it works it works but yoh gotta understand the underlying mechanisms behind it, so when push comes to shove and history repeats itself you arent shocked or perplexed by that. Just trying to look out for you and others cutie.
Problem with a militarized police force - people bitch and moan, even with the obvious recent politicization and almost total dropping of the Peelian principles we're very lucky in the UK with our _professional_ *civilian* police.
Si la police était aussi « méchante » que tu le dis elle vous aurait dégagé rapidement de votre blocus à La Sorbonne et ça aurait été mérité. Ça critique la police mais le vote des français et la démocratie ça on s’en fout hein…hypocrite
@@marianschoeller8764 Wether you agree or disagree with the protests and you think the police should be intervening is one question. The way the police intervenes is another. In that sense, yes, they're absolutely incapable. When an armed riot police man ( that means with guards, armed, and backup forces surrounding him) shoots plastic bullets at protesters eyes from 5 meter distance because he feels "threatened", then he's incapable of doing his job properly. He's not protecting the citizens and he's causing more violence and chaos than the protest does. Policemen should be chosen and recruited as capable people, not as violent people who only want to spread their hate.
United fan here. Sorry you had to go through that. What a shambles from their police force. I hope there's an investigation from UEFA. No doubt these events were extra triggering for older Liverpool fans too.
Sky came out hard refuting UEFAs bullshit and telling everybody the fans did nothing wrong, the police were lunatics and the crowd control was completely incompetent and to blame. Very surprised but respect...
Well there were police there from Merseyside which is a thing that happens and they have come out and made a statement about it, they obviously aren't happy.
Is that because the Polices appalling behaviour hit close to home this time in relation to Sky & some of its Staff, me thinks it’s only Liverpool Fans then they still reporting it as they usually do
Thanks for sharing Paul. Jamie Carragher was our American pregame pundit and he was livid at UEFA, which all of us were as well, because our channel tried to say Liverpool fans arrived late. He had none of it:
Lots of love from New Zealand. Glad you're ok, but horrible to see the scenes that occurred at an event that should be a celebration of the two clubs and the sport we all love.
Well said Edward. We don't hate France, the French Police, the Spanish, or anybody for that matter mate. I personally love France, lovely country. Two of my favorite LFC managers of all time were French and Spanish for goodness sake - the late great Gerard Houllier (RIP Legend) and the Legendary Rafa Benitez! However it hurt to see our fans, my family being mistreated like that over there.
Thanks for sharing, I was in the line waiting for nearly 3 hours, from where I was standing in the line to go into the Y gate, the locals was causing huge issues from trying to storm to pickpocketing, witnessed a old man get his ticket robbed by some local, honestly I’ve never had such a bad experience and shambolic uefa and French police. Hope everyone got out safe.
wonder if many of them were truly 'locals', its a favourite marxist and police trick. always check their footwear, they usually forget to change their commy police boots when they don their disguise
Thanks for sharing. We need as many fans to do so as possible to counter the utter bollocks coming out from Uefa. Sorry to you and everyone else who had to experience that. I was fortunate enough to be in the ground before the madness really started, but it completely changed the whole feel of the night. Really impacted our end I thought. Hope all the reds travelling home get back safe 🙏🏼
Josh, for me one of the most laughable things is that, all throughout the pandemic, many people called out the MSM, "you can't belive a word they say, it's all lies", don't belive the narrative, yet, we have this incident, and they have already made their minds up who is to blame, Ueafa, the MSM, all of a sudden, they are the bastions of truth.
They all hate us. Liverpool vs the world atm but we will beat these sour losers with respect and dignity. Take the quad next year and watch our haters melt. FSG back Klopp now !
Thanks for this Paul. I'll be honest, I saw a few Twitter videos circulating and thought "look at the state of these fans, climbing the gates, storming the stadium, looks like England Italy all over again", but your experiences put it into perspective and I've no doubt that your opinion is the more factually accurate one than the short clips being shown online. This is the real reason channels like this matter. I don't always agree with you on football but it pales into insignificance compared with what happened, and what could have happened last night. Glad you and your close ones are all safe.
The second the game finished they tear gassed the entire fan zone. Was absolutely no trouble whatsoever. They treat people like animals, it’s shocking.
Paris is now a third world city. The media have filtered out the bad bits that have been going on for years. It's out of control. A seriously scary place.
@@vhalenar8644 it's basically Paris, only 9km from the city centre. People just say "oh it's not really Paris" because they can't come to grips that Paris is mostly a shithole
Newcastle fan here, watched on tv, Fair play to BT Sport and Jake Humphrey, they were fed the official narrative of ‘fans turning up late’ but questioned the policing/organisation on live tv and had actual reports from Liverpool fans which they broadcast.
Glad to hear not every opposition fans buying that shit.. twitters a fucking state at the minute, people ignoring evidence and poor treatment just in order to confirm their biases… some truly awful shouts from people based entirely on the city their born in.. grim divide and conquer stuff
Arsenal fan here... just wanted to say that immediately watching at home, it became apparent that it wasn't the liverpool fans causing trouble. Honestly, had it with UEFA & state police - they simply don't care as long as they sell all of their tickets to the final for four figures! Edit: I hope everyone is okay and gets back to our shores safely... YNWA for everyone football fan. Journalists from AP Media had their cameras and video footage deleted by the police, and were moved on... I mean come on, classic coverup.
Arsenal fan here, 1995, Paris Cup winners cup final. Same shit. Nobody could get in, total chaos, tear gas, baton charges etc. Back then though, all football fans were considered scum, so nobody cared.
Tear gassed at the fan park as well, very little people actually kicking off maybe the odd one or two. But the Police proceeded to just casually throw tear gas like there wasn't kids in there. Disgrace.
French police is completely out of control in France. Since the yellow vest protests, France has become a police state when it comes to protests and big manifestations. If you ask French supporters, no one will be surprised about police attitude towards fans. There is so many story similar to yours, but politics with the help of French press has already began to blame “British supporters”. Unfortunately I have no hope that UEFA or French officials will apologize for what happened yesterday.
English football fans have been treated like animals, away in Europe, for decades. I'm a Man Utd fan who can remember getting similar treatment by the Italian police, away at Juventus, in 99, plus MANY other incidents.
Football mafia from UEFAdrid and French police related to politics all play part in the downfall of the match. It could be different circumstances to the atmosphere and game as well. Worst hosting than even amateurs football. No professionalism. 🤧
Thanks Paul for sharing this issue. My Dad was there and his statement is on the bbc but I’ll post it here for everyone to see: I am an LFC supporter, season ticket holder, and went to the match last night with my wife. I am a retired lawyer from Devon. We are not hooligans. We arrived 2.5 hours early. To find ourselves trapped behind barricades unable to move for 1.5 hours, with more and more people being allowed to join the crush, with no explanation or organisation from the police, with my wife in tears because we were being crushed, was utterly shocking. Unfortunately I was taken ill whilst we were trapped but the police refused to let me out - thank you to the LFC supporters who lifted me and my wife over the barricades so I could receive (excellent) medical attention. I thankfully recovered and we went in to the stadium- but our view was blocked by 12 people standing in the gangway next to our seats who did not have tickets. All were French speaking, none British. The stewards would not do anything to move or remove them in spite of our requests - an unbelievable safety risk. The whole experience was one of the worst of my life - It cost me thousands of pounds for this frightening level of incompetence. Appalling. Shocking. Distressing. I will never go to a Champions League final again - have they learned nothing from Hillsborough? Anon (please include your names on any messages
How come none of this happend at the Madrid fans end? it almost seems as if some of these sabotagers were instructed to wreak havoc at the Liverpool fans end and steer clear of the Madrid fans end which is quite odd. This reeks of corruption and a deliberate act. Anyway it seems like this sport was sold and bought a long time ago.
@@stefanrussellbouldering2375 I was angry enough in my lounge room at 5am when they delayed the kick off. Can’t believe what I’m hearing, guns pointed at people by police... tear gassed fans... I feel for everybody who was there YNWA
I can read French and have been going through what Frenchmen are saying and they are largely condemning the authorities that are putting the blame on Liverpool fans, in the next days I'm sure they won't let those who want to rewrite what happened have an easy route to get their false propaganda across.
I see what you are saying but they most likely still will end up rewriting history as per usual in most cases. The media is the enemy of the common man regardless of your background.
I was there last night and the whole day was a joke. 45,000 fans were forced into a 10ft bottleneck between a couple of police vans to get into the fan zone earlier in the day and it really set the tone for the day. Waiting to get into the game they closed all of the gates but maybe 1 or 2 and at ours about 4/5 locals jumped the fence so they threw tear gas at hundreds of us who were trapped in metal pens. Kids crying, old people having panic attacks it was outrageous. Fair play to sky and other British media outlets for reporting the facts. UEFA trying to cover this all up as usual telling people to delete footage or they can’t access the stadium. Absolute joke
Good on you Paul, thanks for that balanced measured response to what you were involved with. You’re a superstar mate. Probably the most confronting video you’ve ever done. Glad you and the group are okay. Much love, from Down Under mate YNWA
Had a ticket, got turned away, tear gassed twice whilst waiting to get in, then went to McDonald’s outside ground for a “safe space” only to be tear gassed again, absolutely abysmal
I'm a frenchman born and raised in Paris and i'm not surprised. The police is quite awful whenever there's a lot of people standing somewhere even if it's a peaceful meeting. You can thank our dear president for that
Our Prime minister is trying to create the same over here in the UK. It's as if the world leaders in the western world are all following the same script. Good luck with Monkey Pox and the global food shortage.
I went the same way as you and it was disgusting I have never felt so unsafe at a sporting event. In that bottle neck prior to the game. It was so tense no communication telling us where to go or what’s happening panic setting on watching the clock go down as kick of come closer. Getting pepper sprayed and hit with riot police. Watching little kids getting split from there parents by the riot police. Disgusting. Then on the way back I went the same way and we were surrounded by young French fans running round pick pocketing and running in to us. All the police just stood and watch us getting attacked after the game.
Pressing masses of fans through bottlenecks alone is 80s security management. Since the Loveparade incident in 2010 in Germany where all people were sent through a narrow tunnel and panic break out (21 dead, 652 wounded) we teach everyone in civil protection, paramedics, firefighters, police etc. to avoid exactly that. Security and deescalation comes with wide open spaces and lots of entrances and exits. Even the worst hooligans in the world are nothing against a mass in panic.
Really sorry for what everyone had to go through. So many reports from fans saying the same things about the police and how they reacted. Glad your safe
I was in Athens in 2007 again UEFA managed to completely fuck up the admission to the ground, it took us over 2 hrs just outside the ground crushed together with AC Milan fans (including their Ultra's) before we got in. TBF the Greek Police were not a problem as for the most part they weren't there (or just stood around smoking). The French Police need to admit they've been a disgrace to their country and shamed France! UEFA need to take a good hard look at themselves and work out how to do the one thing they exist for at least half decently and learn from past mistakes.
Just glad you, Charlie, Chris & Tom are OK, safe journey back. I remember the Parc Des Princes in 81, being surrounded in a "ring of steel", manned by riot police etc, long before those dark days late 80's. Terrifying how each issue in these scenarios can rapidly escalate and here we are in 2022.
The police were baiting fans from the beginning! Even at the fan zone hours. Disgraceful the whole time. I was never worried about my safety from other fans - it was the police
Disgraceful! I hope all is safe. Was Disgraceful to see how the liverpool fans were treated. I may be a united fan but I'm not one that likes to see liverpool fans being tarnished. I've met many people from liverpool and they are wonderful people.
Lots of journalists today calling out the shambles and blaming UEFA which is a start. But they shouldn't be let away with it. And trying to blame the fans is just disgraceful.
'disgusting' is the word that came to mind. disgraceful is fine. However the word that immediately sprung to mind was 'disgusting'. UEFA are so corrupt.
First UCL final I’ve been to, it was supposed to be the best day of my life but turned into an absolute nightmare. Never in my life have I had that much fear instilled into me, don’t know if it sounds dramatic but I was unsure whether I’d get back home or not especially when trapped in those bottlenecks with more and more people coming in! Police, stewards didn’t give a shit about anything didn’t try and stop the locals attacking us. Got in the ground at the start of kick off couldn’t enjoy a second of it seen a lad be knocked out cold by locals and robbed was just horrible. Still can’t process what happened needs a serious and thorough investigation into why this was allowed to happen.
@ellis Biggs, sorry to hear. I went to the champions league final in Cardiff. It was a great experience. The area next to the stadium in France isn’t very good
I was there outside Y with my son it was a absolute disgrace from the police and uefa. French Algerians robbing people ,kids crying and women too you genuinely felt your life was being taken away totally empty after that. After the game on that train and walking back to hotel thank god we are both okay.
Thank you for the video Paul. I was hoping you would put something out to shed some light on what happened. The game happened and we lost fair play to Madrid, but I can't help but think of what that trauma did to our supporters and how it could have been different with proper organization. I think it's got to be hard to move on to match of footy after being tear gassed/pepper sprayed.
Liverpool fans have been to 62 games this season without any major problems. We’ve been to 6 major European finals since Hillsborough prior to yesterday, and they went off without any issue. And yet yesterday is somehow the fault of Liverpool fans and not shambolic planning by Uefa, French authorities, and heavy handed French police with an authoritarian streak who couldn’t wait to use their military grade toys on men, women, and children who just wanted to watch their team play a game of football. The lack of empathy of some football fans, along with a wretched and blinkered tribalism, is disturbing and depressing.
Logistically speaking, I don't think they knew what they were doing other than pocketing money. Not to sound like an arrogant American but college American football 🏈 games and the super bowl have better security and ticket vetting process. Some games bring in hundreds of thousands, like when LSU plays Alabama or Ohio State plays Michigan. Also why was the RM fan zone closer whereas the liverpool fan zone further away?
I'm sick to the stomach of the spiteful bile, and out right hate, dressed up as 'tribalism' and 'banter' that pervades football from fully grown adults hiding behind social media, comment and message boards. It is disgusting, sad, and pathetic. What is it that makes football fans act like utter scum? The events last night should provide utter contempt from everyone in football and beyond, and yet we have to put up with what-aboutery and point scoring from so called fans of other teams. It seems, after the disgusting 'victim\murderers' chanting from Shrewsbury Town\City\Everton\United\(Insert team here) etc this year alone, and the behaviour and point scoring after last night, that we have learned very little and not moved on much from Hillsborough. It's appalling and embarrassing.
6 major European finals since Hillsborough prior to yesterday, and they went off without any issue? Clearly you didn't go to them all. I did. Athens was a shambles. Had a legit ticket and got locked out of ground and tear gassed. 15 years later (yes I was there last night) and same thing happened but worse.
@@PizzaLord First off, sorry that you had to go through that all twice. I wasn’t at any of the finals, no, but what I meant is that something akin to Hillsborough or Heysel didn’t happen, or a major delay because of poor planning like yesterday. I was making a point in order to defend our fans. I wasn’t insinuating that those finals were perfectly planned, but what happened yesterday will be infamous and will mar the final when people look back at it. From what I was aware of, there had been no such issues in the 6 previous finals. I had heard of the trouble in Athens before, but clearly I forgot about it, so I apologise for my ignorance.
The immediate reaction from media, other fans, social media was disgraceful. As soon as it was delayed, Hillsborough was trending number 3 in the UK, and the comments were unforgivable. Videos were reposted, all blaming Liverpool fans. UEFA lied about what happened repeatedly
I couldn’t care less about the result tbf. I was n tears before the game , all I could think of was the 97 at Hillsborough. It’s still affecting me today ! This is criminal and should be treated as such ? It’s the only way to stop it happening again .
I love France It's culture, it's food. But, your police force brutalizes its own citizens. No wonder French people vote for marine le pen as a protest vote. Long live the yellow coats.
I'm an Everton fan and thought the way Liverpool fan's were treated was vile, obviously I didn't want Liverpool to win the Champions league but certainly didn't want men women and children going to watch the club they love essentially being treated as scum, I've seen footage online and seen reporting from plenty of people to know this is a disgrace, btw pple climbing over to get in were defo a community that lives in Paris (if you know what I mean)
If it was Everton these RS would show no mercy la. Look at them last time we were in France. It's never them at fault, always the authorities. Mention Heysel and it gets all hazey there.
Wasn't just the police, the parasians were singling out lone supporters and small groups on the trains and battering them. There were several liverpool fans laid out cold on the platforms and the police done absolutely nothing to stop it,, imagine if that was us attacking the locals.. me and my brother boarded our first train of 3 with a fair few supporters, on the train there was some local men shouting in French trying to goad us into fighting, all the fans ignored it and nothing happened, the fans we were with got off at the next stop and it was just me and my brother in this section by ourselves for one more stop, the second the door closed the locals were in our face, being aggressive, luckily we was able to walk through to the next carriage and could see a fair few liverpool supporters in there so stood with them, if it wasn't for that I feel we would have probably spent the night in hospital and we done absolutely nothing wrong, the police weren't there to protect us one bit
Sounds horrible, hope you are all well . I have a young son..I'm never going to carry him to a European away.. scary stuff . Thanks for this video .YNWA
My heart sank and it took me back to being a kid watching the Heysel game on tv when I heard of delays and crowd problems. Just want my comrades to come home safe and sound and back to their families. Something was off last night. Thanks for all your great work Paul, YNWA. Just to add that I’m disappointed with Mane, making this about maybe being his last game was a story we didn’t need. Plus side was that Konate was supreme at the back, can’t wait to see him next year.
I was listening to it on the radio and couldn’t believe it, absolutely disgusting, I felt so bad for everyone who should have been having the best times ever. I was in Seville for the Rangers game, and although nowhere NEAR as bad, it was still a complete shambles. That was in a different country so I think the weak link has to be UEFA. They are administrators but couldn’t organise a Sunday league match. This should never be allowed to happen again.
I went to Disney land Paris with the kids a few years ago and the park was full of aggressive French police with guns I remember at the time feeling very uncomfortable that I was in a place of joy yet felt very nervous that blokes with loaded guns could get pissed off and snap The French police have always had a reputation doesn’t help that half of them are headcases
@@anthtan I think most places in France are policed that way. I remember going to Disneyland 15 years ago and my first memory on arrival was a heavy police presence with big assault rifles which was scary and uncomfortable for a 10 year old. It was a similar story venturing into Paris, can't remember ever feeling fully relaxed whilst there.
Sky sports are all over this atm. Even the jernos are disgusted. Jernos that filmed it have been forced to delete videos of what happened or they wouldn't be allowed in the stadium.
There has to be a full investigation into this farce and the French police and UEFA need to be held accountable. I was affected sitting at home on Twitter reading tweets of people that were there. I'm gutted for all those affected by this and I hope something is done to make sure this never happens again! Keep up the good work Paul! Love listening to you 👏🏼
Well explained Paul. Thanks for making us aware of what went on. The French Police are a total disgrace. Hope it didn’t completely ruin it for you and you family.
Thanks for sharing ; as a french and Liverpool Fan (since 77), I feel for Liverpool fans and all the people involved. It is disgrace... Sorry you had to go through this...
Totally agree I never want to experience anything like that again. Was horrible getting tear gassed for purely standing outside the gates waiting to gain entry. Wouldn't wish that experience on any football fan. Truly terrifying
Sad news but thank you very much Paul. You and all the team at Redmen TV did a brilliant job getting this message out. I'm so glad that you guys are reds.... I hope UEFA face the music over this. Next year, we'll be back
It's worth mentioning that Merseyside Constabulary officers who travelled as observers described the behaviour of the Liverpool supporters as "exemplary".
UEFA also lied about Eriksen at the Euro's last year when they claimed that all the players had agreed to play on. They only agreed after they had been threatened with sanctions by UEFA.
Hi Paul, French fan here, i saw you in the line at McDonald's at place de Clichy on Saturday afternoon, said hi to Chris who was outside. I'm terribly sorry and ashamed of my country that you had to experience this. What was going to be a great day turned into a disaster. I was happy that the final was in Paris but it was also a big risk because of the location of stadium (one of the worst place around Paris) and the total incompetence and arrogance of the french authorities. And then after all that the lies of the politicians... Hope you and your friends and relatives are all well. Sorry again.
Really spot-on take on the situation. Extremely depressing situation. French Police, UEFA, French Minister of Sport, bandwagoning rival fans should all be ashamed of themselves. I am thankfully we live in the social media age because a lot of the lies told will be exposed. I hope the club do everything in their power here, the inquiry is arguably a watershed moment for modern football. There's still a lot of work to do. All the best to Paul and everyone at Redmen who was there.
@@lfcspectre4335 they should strip them of the olympics and we could hold it in London again. We have most of the facilities in place. The only things that are not were temporary stadia anyway so could easily be put in place again.
Paul, my respect for yourself Chris & co is HUGE, so sorry for what you have been through, seemingly these IDIOTS in charge of our safety will never learn it's 2022 for F*SAKE, the experience you have been through will take some recovery from, much love to you all and thank you for posting this extremely upsetting video..
I was at the game with my 12 year old son and was fortunate to have the better Category 1 seats, but walked past the Liverpool end gate and realized straight away that something wasn’t right. Too many people lining up outside and it was causing a bottleneck to get to our gate. But everyone was behaving and waiting in line. Got to our gate and there was zero stewardship to control the line, the fans took it upon themselves to create an orderly line, but again it was creating a barrier for fans getting thru to get to their gates. The line was painfully slow, which makes no sense when using e-tickets. When we got closer to the turnstiles, a full 45 minutes after starting the line, I noticed many Liverpool fans barging in to skip the line and most of them had no valid tickets. The stewards were more like bouncers forcing these people out. The only 2 policemen at the gate did nothing but watch! At this point I must also point out that there were quite a few local youths trying to jump the fence and get in, 2 of them actually made it! The police finally got off their ass and moved the other kids away! Some Liverpool fans tried the same trick and for a few minutes the atmosphere got tense, with genuine Liverpool fans with valid tickets verbally attacking the ones trying to get in illegally. Finally at the turnstile we were thru in 10 seconds, no idea why it had to be slow to get in when the technology is so fast! I did see 2 fans try to get in with one ticket! It was genuine too, but both got kicked out and ticket retrieved!! Now, you would think it’s plain sailing from now on in! Hell no, no one could tell us where was out section T11!! All the stewards were clueless, after 20 minutes of running around based on false information one UEFA steward told us that many people were confused about T11 and told us how yo FIND it!! It had the smallest of signs behind a pillar!! So no police inside the ground, the stewards totally incompetent and once at our seat we couldn’t even order a drink as there was no signal to use the QR code service. For such a large venue not to have a working free-wifi system says it all. I was trying to contact my wife to let her know we were safe but just couldn’t get a signal. We had many empty seats around us and these tickets aren’t cheap. No doubt got caught out in the trouble. I was thinking of staying for the ceremony but my son wanted to leave as he was scared. There was again zero stewardship outside and thousands of us walked into a cul-de-sac of locked gates, no one to indicate how to leave the stadium. There were plenty of gates to the street but were all locked! We ended up walking down a ramp and I feared the over crowding. Plenty of police waiting for us at the bottom but with no suggestions of where to go next! I decided to walk to where the crowds were less dense and finally got an Uber an hour later! Just terrible experience after experiencing Kiev, Madrid, Istanbul, Doha where there were zero issues! Paris should never host another CL Final. Even the fan zone at the Hotel de Ville was crap! No thought put into it! 99.9% of fans behaved, but that 0.01% should be held accountable. Don’t have a ticket? Stay home!! YNWA
I live in Portland, OR - in the US, and I have had the same reaction to police that your wife had. I feel her fear. The police should be on our side not against us. I'm so sorry that the day was marred by such unacceptable behavior. The parade yesterday was beautiful! YNWA
Paul, I have been a Liverpool supporter since 1997, I support them because my brother does. I’m as far away from Liverpool in England as I could be but I absolutely love Liverpool FC. I had no knowledge of supporting your local team etc I just believed you followed who you loved so that’s what me and my brother do. I’ve always loved watching your channel and RedMenTV, you guys really transpire that message of togetherness that I love about LFC. Anyway I don’t know what point I’m trying to make other than my heart is red and I think the work you do is phenomenal. Keep up the great work mate ❤️
I saw it already in the first helicopter live stream that something must be wrong. Madrid supporters were already in the stadium while hundreds of Liverppool supporters still standing in line outside of Stade de France. From that point on, I didn't trust any of the 'reasons' media published. Thanks for your insight, Paul. Much appreciated!
Hi Paul,David here from Ireland… met you in Beauvais yesterday….thanks for taking the time to chat and photo…disappointing weekend but we will march again…thanks again for all your hard work and dedication….YNWA
Great channel Paul, sorry to hear about what you and the other fans endured. Nice your giving some real perspective to the situation, life long Liverpool fan from Chesterfield 👍🏿😎
I’m French and I want to apologize on behalf of many French citizens who don’t believe the lies of our government. I feel ashamed ! There are many reasons for this chaos, farce, fiasco, call it as you want. 1- 3 months to organize it was too short and they did not take into account that so many fans from Liverpool will come to Paris. They did not manage the flow of the people, from the city to Stade de France. 2- On top of that, there was a strike of the best train line to go to Stade de France, RER Line B, and it made all the British fans taking the RER D which concourses are much too narrow to handle properly such a flow of people at the same time with check points to check tickets 3- there was not enough stewards because they are very difficult to recruit and most of them are inexperienced because since Covid, most of the experience ones found another job, better and more paid. The stewards did not direct the fans toward other concourses to reach the stadium and avoid this bottleneck 4- once the police open the checkpoints to avoid to have injured or dead people because of the crowd movement, it created chaos around Stade de France and this is when the worst happened: the thugs of Saint-Denis, mostly French came to extort and abuse Liverpool fans. Such a disgrace, I feel so bad for Liverpool fans and families. So ashamed as French citizen. 😟🙏🏼 5- Many fake paper tickets blocked the turnstiles of the entrance of Stade de France and so, the genuine ones could not even enter because the turnstiles where blocked. 6- In this chaos, many thugs of Paris suburbs climbed the gate and enter without tickets. 7- all this chaos triggered the decision-making of the chief of the Paris Police to launch assault to disperse all people, the good fans, the French thugs and the fans with no or with fake tickets. By using pepper and tears gas they touched everyone, including kids and women. 8- The biggest blame is of course on the UEFA and the French authorities. It’s for the most part their fault and their responsibility. But, and I know it’s hard to hear for British people, there are so small responsibilities on the other side: French are not used to have the majority of the fans of a team coming to a game without tickets and there was no collaboration between British authorities, Liverpool FC and the French authorities to coordinate it and handle them properly. 2- Even if it was much less than what the French minister and UEFA said, there was thousands of fake or true-fake paper tickets with a valid QR code. Most of Liverpool fans had paper tickets while Real Madrid fans had electronic tickets that can’t be duplicated. It’s a fact and it made the situation of bad organization from French authorities and UEFA even worse. 9- At the end it’s a disgrace and UEFA and French authorities should do their self- criticize. The blame is on them for the most part, but still some responsibilities are also on the other side.
Don't forget about all the pickpockets and looters coming to try and steal peoples items. Sorry to say but a lot of them were North African migrants from what I could see and what my friends said who were there.
@@DrumNBassed That exactly my points and I said it in my point 4, if you read me well. That's the most disgusting and outrageous. So ashamed of it :( Unfortunately, most of them are French, even if they have North African origins ! They live just near by the stadium
The scary thing is that's the stadium that's holding the Rugby World Cup Final in a few months time and if they make a shambles of this and don't learn then whats next.
Sorry you had such a bad experience in Paris last night.. I was at both Heysel and Hillsborough and can tell you I was really scared at both for different reasons.... At Heysel, we had no idea what was going on, the match was a farce and getting the coach back to Bruges was extremely scary as the coach was attacked by Juve fans. At Hillsborough, luckily we did what we did in the previous year and went in the side terrace but in the surge of the fans, we lost my dad and didn't find him for half an hour. He had ended up in the middle pen but has gotten out before the major push that killed all the supporters... Apologies for the ramble... :-( #YNWA #JFT97 #UEFAarecorrupt
Glad your ok Paul and the lads , thanks for all the content through the years. Finally up the fuckin reds I love this team , the comeback is always greater than the setbacks we will win more trophies 🏆 with this team 🙌 👏 💪.
On the day the Hillsborough disaster happened I was a kid at Celtic Park watching Glasgow Rangers play St Johnston in the cup semi final. We left the game and was in a tight spot getting out. The police came through hard on horses, what was already a bad situation turned almost deadly very quickly. I can still remember the helpless feeling of not being in control of where I was going, feet off the ground and squished. We got out and went to the car where after turning on the radio for scores around the grounds we were sat there stunned listening to what was going on in Sheffield. A terribly sad day that will be etched into my memories forever.
Paul looks on the verge of tears with what he's seen. Yet I've seen so many arseholes on Twitter choosing to blame others instead of wishing for their well being. It's disgraceful. Really hope everyone got out okay 🙏❤
We left 10 minutes after final whistle and weren’t allowed to cross the bridge. The police funnelled us down the underpass where dozens of French thugs were waiting for us. Absolutely frightening experience. The Police left us to it.
@@oscarslife5497 listen that may be . Does it matter, all the police had to do was clear the area ahead of the game, set up a perimeter , keep these locals out, they were criminals either way of skin color, they had no football gear on, no tickets... a proper security set up would have kept them away... when they saw the frenzy they called their mates to join, as it was a free for all...
The police came prepared for trouble & did their best to try & get trouble. The fact that it didn’t kickoff, with the pure provocation of the police & the local youth, Liverpool fans should be proud of!!
Thanks for doing this Paul, for telling your own personal story of what you've seen or witness of last night disgraceful organisation from UEFA, French police & authorities. Aleksander Ceferin the president of UEFA & Emmanuel Macron president of France have got lot of explaining to do for football fans in general, whatever it was Liverpool or Real Madrid fan's for not getting into the stadium with their well earned tickets. The shocking thing about this is France is gonna host Summer Olympics in 2024.
I’ve been following Liverpool across Europe for many years - my 1st experience my dad took me and brother in 1981 to our 1st game and subsequently hooked on my beloved Reds - I’ve seen the good and the bad you could say over the years… I moved to Perth Australia 16 years ago / and honestly miss it so much. I made the decision to goto Paris and acquired a ticket via Uefa ‘not cheap’ but just needed to go to see and soak up with the Liverpool FAMILY… After a very long trip I arrived and went straight to my hotel ‘Mob Hotel Paris Les Puces’ maybe the name lived up to the area! But it was the cheapest I could find thinking it was just a base - around 3pm Friday I thought I’d have a quick look around to get my bearing / 5 mins later I was back in the hotel ‘frightening is my only summary’ - In fairness to the Hotel/ Staff = beautiful and very friendly. Match day… all I can honestly I had someone on my shoulder last Saturday! Again reading all the negative comments towards Liverpool ‘so wrong’, I was at the Fanzone very early poorly managed by the police 50,000+ people shoe horned into 3 single entry points - I dIdn’t see any trouble apart from heavy handed police? I decided to head to the ground early just after 3 - pickpockets everywhere on the tube… got off at the stadium station to be greeted by the African ‘French’ locals hurling abuse, spitting and abusing Men, Women and kid’s again police we saw not bothered pretty scary. I said to the lad I was with we just need to get in it was just so hostile/ nearer the ground we watched in amazement 4 of these characters scale a massive wall ‘disbelief to be honest’ again police watching? Presented my phone to get past the 1st entry / someone tried to grab it. I managed to get in the ground early thank God because what happened in the next couple of hours was a joke. I honestly don’t know how I didn’t get mugged after the game / 45 mins to get a taxi in the middle of trouble I was shitting myself as I was on my own! Wake up call for me… the game was irrelevant and Liverpool fans in the ground very deflated / it was very sad + reading all the bad things that have happened - Sunday my flight was at 5pm my plan was to see as much as I could - but at 8am I just went to Airport just needed to get away! Some very sad stories with people returning home. These French refugees are the next generation for Europe! the same ones trying to get over the channel! I’m still in disbelief - especially how it’s been reported and also knowing some of our fans are not perfect/ but I didn’t see any of that last week - only the Red Family looking out for each other. Proud to be a Edge Hill Scouser
Sounds super scary. Im just glad no one was killed. As soon as they kept announcing on TV that match delayed due to "fans arriving late" I knew something was up. You don't get that number of fans arriving late without a system failure but....suprise suprise.... The fans get the blame.
to be honest Paul, all the media reports ive seen support your version of events rather than the lies UEFA and French officials were putting out in the past 24 hours. Glad you got out safe. I was at Basel too and that was brilliantly organised, i agree (apart from our plane being "lost" at the airport so we arrived home about 4 hrs late haha)
I’m from Luxembourg and we are used to the catastrophic organization of the french. It is a well known fact that they are completely incompetent in that area. I’m sorry that you has to experience that, and that they are know trying to put the blame on the liverpool fans.
Was happy to see you some of the big ups in the reporting business getting caught up in the Carnage now they know what it's like to be on the receiving end
Sounds horrendous & appreciate you sharing the truth. Sounds like a nightmare return to the bad old days & awful experience regardless of whether we won or lost. France seems a very devided & confused country at the moment with the rise of the far right etc. I certainly won't be going to France any time soon.
Yeah so many far right hooligans jumping the gates and mugging the visitors on the way out. Such a French thing to do ! Stop reading the papers and get out and experience the world for yourself. Trust me ,all cultures and behaviours are not the same.
@@nickfranklin6495 It's the Redmen channel so probably would be a few Liverpool fans on here don't you think & who says I'm lefty? The rise of the far right is a fact in France so why not share your thoughts with Marine Le Pen , I'm sure she'll be keen to hear you out lol.
@@ragerider6283 your comment is full of errors. police thugs have got nothing to do with right wing politics. the reds i refer to are not liverpool fans, how do you not know this? best not to use propaganda youve been fed and pass it on as your own thoughts
@@nickfranklin6495I know exactly what you're getting at, lefty, red, socialist blah blah, hence my tongue in cheek comments & I have no interest in engaging as I don't agree. Also the irony of your last comment of me passing off propaganda I'm "fed" as my own thoughts if true, is exactly what you're doing from your own perspective lol. You just sound like another pseudo-intellectual fake news conspiracy theorist keyboard warrior & if you don't think police brutality as ever had anything to do with right wing politics you're kidding yourself. Believe whatever you want, I really don't mind but don't preach like you're somehow superior & "know the truth" while us poor deluded sheep mindlessly totter through life. France is a tinderbox with lots of division(s) & social tension (although don't we all I guess) which is epitomised by the rise of the far right. This in turn feeds in to how the French police, who have a reputation for heavy handiness & brutality anyway, tend to handle things. The way policing is carried out is a reflection of that society. There's a lot of frustrated, angry & disenfranchised people on all sides & the way the state & in this case the police, handle these types of situations, by extremes, is a reflection of that. The far right has significant influence both directly & indirectly. It's not the only or even main reason but it's still a contributing factor to some extent.
In the space of a fortnight British football has had two clubs play major finals and in both matches UEFA and the host venue have failed, both could have had deaths and am surprised that there weren't especially in Sevilla as a rangers fan. Whatever happens, next UEFA needs to let an outside company handle someone who knows wtf to do because it's embarrassing to the highest levels.
I am glad you are safe in the end, Paul, you and your wife! I do know and understand what you are talking about... A mere disgrace indeed, what those savage French authorities are all about!
This should never have taken place in France after the past 3 years of gang related football violence in the country. French police treat their own countrymen worse than this and people expected to be welcomed? It doesn't take long to search certain websites to find the videos of what really happened and what triggered the whole thing. If you hold an event in Paris you need to expect to have hundreds of foreign born French citizens storming the gates and creating carnage. How were people so unaware of all the violence at French games this season? Or the constant violence outside them. Migrant gangs have created a new wave of Ultras in France, men who have witnessed great violence in their homelands now recreating the scenes on French streets.
Reddit, daily motion, nearly all of the major youtube competitors even 4chan if you're feeling brave, telegram groups. Pretty much any video uploading website the news and government tell you not to visit.
If we are talking credibility of sources no one can be trusted. I was referring to the 100s of mobile uploads to these sites from those at the event. They may not be from the event, they could be fake but the LCFC and RM fans plus all over the advertising suggest they are. I will leave it to your own eyes to make a decision.
absolutely gutted we lost.... still proud of our team.. but the scenes outside the stadium on our supporters was shocking! i hope everyone was ok.... an hope something gets done about it! ynwa..
Hi Paul, Really interesting video to hear a take on it from a fans perspective. I have a French friend who said the police in France are notorious, she also said they are stressed out. Overworked and undermanned. No excuse for their behaviour though. I blame uefa the money cows, they should have paid for private security and organised it better. My friend said too that area where the stade de France is has a huge crime problem. I'm glad you are safe Paul.
I toured Stade de France 2wks ago. My family living in Paris were wary of going as St-Dennis is just known for bad behavior from Police and a few others. We were told of concerts leading up to the game so I know UEFA and French authorities didn’t care about finding time to rehearse crowd management at stadium-too busy with concerts
You are aware that this stadium hosts massive 6 nations rugby games every year ? It's not a one off event for them , they are used to major sporting events with thousands of travelling fans .
@@simonjames1964 The French police have admitted to Le Parisien that normally they’d have 18 months to organize but only had 3 because it was a changed venue. I doubt they had 3mos-looking at what I saw a couple weeks ago they had maybe 3 days this time.
In the live pre-match coverage in America both Thierry Henry and Jamie Carragher IMMEDIATELY called bullshit on the “fans arriving late” narrative. I’ve never been one to go to big events and this just reinforces it for me. Sorry for you and everyone else that had to go through that.
Based on what I'm seeing, almost everyone is happy Liverpool lost. Apparently we are cocky, arrogant and annoying. Maybe we should have printed some ucl #7 shirts
Bro it's not because liverpool lost because how disrespect the english pundits showed to real madrid so this stuff was the hate for them not for liverpool mostly
@@elhalcon777 i genuinely couldnt believe how all the pundits just wrote real madrid off like that, most fans knew it was going to be a close match with vini vs trent being the key battle (and in the end that was exactly what decided the match)
Unfortunately, we’re seeing what all authorities do. Take no responsibility and push the blame on those who can’t properly defend themselves. Problem is, too many idiots lap it up for the sake of banter. Credit to Sky for their very good reporting of the issues and the many journalists who reported the same. Unfortunately, people would rather listen to random Twitter posts rather than people who were actually there.
Rare that as a united fan I offer sympathy and love to a Liverpool fan but bloody hell thank god you guys are ok! Looked an absolute disgrace from the outside, can't imagine being in that crush with your family. A full investigation into the policing of the match must take place and changes made or someday we're gonna see another avoidable tragedy
true manc true football fan thanks
@@dj71162 Yeah, cos when disabled children get gassed in this face, they must have deserved it
@@dj71162 you are a sad act
@@d.s.c8989 Heysel unfit for a final. UEFA, Belgian Police were at fault too. English teams got banned and 14 hooligans got charged. Unfortunately 60+ people died in that disaster. 1985 was peak (English) hooligan times in Football. Juventus were the victims there. Their Ultras still make banners for when LFC play them, sadly. Football stadiums changed for the better after those disasters in the 80's. - along with attitudes and behaviour . Hopefully things aren't regressing. Euro 2020 was a bad sign last year at Wembley......... LFC away support has been good natured since the 80's along with most English teams. It's the Ultra's of some continental teams who are a couple of decades behind in terms of changing tact....
@@d.s.c8989 Yeah it was Liverpool fans that started that.
As a student in Paris, I was "lucky" enough to experience french police brutality in student protests, occupations, etc. These guys are animals, they are incapable of doing their job properly, all they're looking for is an excuse to use violence, teargass, smoke bombs and plastic bullets. It's ridiculous how in Europe we look at USA's or Russia's police brutality and act all shocked, when in reality France's and many other European countries' police is just as brutal, if not worse.
Doing their job properly? I am sorry but you know what the police at the end is right? It is state owned monopoly on force. At the end their only end goal is to execute what they are told. Be it police men, army etc. Like the examples you have given and billion countless other examples in history, when push comes to shove they have only one master and thats the goverment.
And this doesnt necessarily mean that the police men are bad people or that "they cant do their job right" (eventhough few of them cant ofcourse) or that having no police is a better alternative. When you are in army or in police force usually you go there partly with the idea to help people, but crucial part in these jobs is trusting the leadership for better or for worse.
What I am basically trying to point out eventhough having police is good and when it works it works but yoh gotta understand the underlying mechanisms behind it, so when push comes to shove and history repeats itself you arent shocked or perplexed by that. Just trying to look out for you and others cutie.
Sure poppet
Problem with a militarized police force - people bitch and moan, even with the obvious recent politicization and almost total dropping of the Peelian principles we're very lucky in the UK with our _professional_ *civilian* police.
Si la police était aussi « méchante » que tu le dis elle vous aurait dégagé rapidement de votre blocus à La Sorbonne et ça aurait été mérité. Ça critique la police mais le vote des français et la démocratie ça on s’en fout hein…hypocrite
@@marianschoeller8764 Wether you agree or disagree with the protests and you think the police should be intervening is one question. The way the police intervenes is another. In that sense, yes, they're absolutely incapable. When an armed riot police man ( that means with guards, armed, and backup forces surrounding him) shoots plastic bullets at protesters eyes from 5 meter distance because he feels "threatened", then he's incapable of doing his job properly. He's not protecting the citizens and he's causing more violence and chaos than the protest does. Policemen should be chosen and recruited as capable people, not as violent people who only want to spread their hate.
United fan here. Sorry you had to go through that. What a shambles from their police force. I hope there's an investigation from UEFA. No doubt these events were extra triggering for older Liverpool fans too.
Thanks lad.
@@S7Vmv so what about the respected journalists that back him up 100%...don't come here trying to stir up trouble, you sad act
always the victims lol
@@allanbennett4184 get a clue you bell
@@allanbennett4184 Get a life
Sky came out hard refuting UEFAs bullshit and telling everybody the fans did nothing wrong, the police were lunatics and the crowd control was completely incompetent and to blame. Very surprised but respect...
Well there were police there from Merseyside which is a thing that happens and they have come out and made a statement about it, they obviously aren't happy.
I was very impressed by Karveh Solhekol’s reporting on this - well done Sky (not something I usually say!)
Is that because the Polices appalling behaviour hit close to home this time in relation to Sky & some of its Staff, me thinks it’s only Liverpool Fans then they still reporting it as they usually do
No Madrid fans had any trouble. Typical scousers causing trouble, lying about it and then blaming everyone else!
There were loads of Liverpool fans storming the gate though?
Thanks for sharing Paul. Jamie Carragher was our American pregame pundit and he was livid at UEFA, which all of us were as well, because our channel tried to say Liverpool fans arrived late. He had none of it:
Lots of love from New Zealand. Glad you're ok, but horrible to see the scenes that occurred at an event that should be a celebration of the two clubs and the sport we all love.
little englander criminals with fake tickets f ed that celebration.
Do you hear anything from the Spanish? No. Here we go.
Well said Edward.
We don't hate France, the French Police, the Spanish, or anybody for that matter mate. I personally love France, lovely country. Two of my favorite LFC managers of all time were French and Spanish for goodness sake - the late great Gerard Houllier (RIP Legend) and the Legendary Rafa Benitez!
However it hurt to see our fans, my family being mistreated like that over there.
Thanks for sharing, I was in the line waiting for nearly 3 hours, from where I was standing in the line to go into the Y gate, the locals was causing huge issues from trying to storm to pickpocketing, witnessed a old man get his ticket robbed by some local, honestly I’ve never had such a bad experience and shambolic uefa and French police.
Hope everyone got out safe.
wonder if many of them were truly 'locals', its a favourite marxist and police trick. always check their footwear, they usually forget to change their commy police boots when they don their disguise
Thanks for sharing. We need as many fans to do so as possible to counter the utter bollocks coming out from Uefa. Sorry to you and everyone else who had to experience that. I was fortunate enough to be in the ground before the madness really started, but it completely changed the whole feel of the night. Really impacted our end I thought. Hope all the reds travelling home get back safe 🙏🏼
Yes cause it’s not like you didn’t kill 39 Italians before… victim pool playing victim before the facts are established
Josh, for me one of the most laughable things is that, all throughout the pandemic, many people called out the MSM, "you can't belive a word they say, it's all lies", don't belive the narrative, yet, we have this incident, and they have already made their minds up who is to blame, Ueafa, the MSM, all of a sudden, they are the bastions of truth.
They all hate us. Liverpool vs the world atm but we will beat these sour losers with respect and dignity. Take the quad next year and watch our haters melt. FSG back Klopp now !
That must be the reason they lost!!!
If I have been there, a few won't be back
Thanks for this Paul.
I'll be honest, I saw a few Twitter videos circulating and thought "look at the state of these fans, climbing the gates, storming the stadium, looks like England Italy all over again", but your experiences put it into perspective and I've no doubt that your opinion is the more factually accurate one than the short clips being shown online.
This is the real reason channels like this matter. I don't always agree with you on football but it pales into insignificance compared with what happened, and what could have happened last night.
Glad you and your close ones are all safe.
The second the game finished they tear gassed the entire fan zone. Was absolutely no trouble whatsoever. They treat people like animals, it’s shocking.
This is horrendous, wtf man?!?
Great 🤣
Please tell me that's a joke...
Are u serious? Thankfully I left at halftime it was a free for all in there
Look at how they treated the yellow vest protesters. Hospitalized hundreds of their own citizen. Animals
Paris is now a third world city. The media have filtered out the bad bits that have been going on for years. It's out of control. A seriously scary place.
But it was not in Paris, it was in Saint-Denis... Not really the same city
Diversity is strength 🤥😂
@@vhalenar8644 it's basically Paris, only 9km from the city centre. People just say "oh it's not really Paris" because they can't come to grips that Paris is mostly a shithole
@@vhalenar8644 ok, but Paris is still a cesspit mostly thanks to North African migrants.
@@CheviotHills 😒😒 bore off too
Newcastle fan here, watched on tv, Fair play to BT Sport and Jake Humphrey, they were fed the official narrative of ‘fans turning up late’ but questioned the policing/organisation on live tv and had actual reports from Liverpool fans which they broadcast.
Bt sport are a disgrace and can piss off like the sun
Glad to hear not every opposition fans buying that shit.. twitters a fucking state at the minute, people ignoring evidence and poor treatment just in order to confirm their biases… some truly awful shouts from people based entirely on the city their born in.. grim divide and conquer stuff
"actual reports from Loserpool fans". Haha. That's not biased at all, innit thick little englander plank?
Arsenal fan here... just wanted to say that immediately watching at home, it became apparent that it wasn't the liverpool fans causing trouble. Honestly, had it with UEFA & state police - they simply don't care as long as they sell all of their tickets to the final for four figures!
Edit: I hope everyone is okay and gets back to our shores safely... YNWA for everyone football fan.
Journalists from AP Media had their cameras and video footage deleted by the police, and were moved on... I mean come on, classic coverup.
Arsenal fan here, 1995, Paris Cup winners cup final. Same shit. Nobody could get in, total chaos, tear gas, baton charges etc. Back then though, all football fans were considered scum, so nobody cared.
Respect thanks
Brexshitannia's sc*m should be stopped at Dover. No Entry to EUrope for drunken vomiters from that stinking sewage on the sinking isle.
It was youths of a certain demographic that caused the trouble, and the media covered it up as always.
Tear gassed at the fan park as well, very little people actually kicking off maybe the odd one or two. But the Police proceeded to just casually throw tear gas like there wasn't kids in there. Disgrace.
French police is completely out of control in France. Since the yellow vest protests, France has become a police state when it comes to protests and big manifestations. If you ask French supporters, no one will be surprised about police attitude towards fans. There is so many story similar to yours, but politics with the help of French press has already began to blame “British supporters”. Unfortunately I have no hope that UEFA or French officials will apologize for what happened yesterday.
It was the same in 1998 at the world cup ... intimidation is the way they operate , disgusting .
.. and in England we just don't protest
English football fans have been treated like animals, away in Europe, for decades. I'm a Man Utd fan who can remember getting similar treatment by the Italian police, away at Juventus, in 99, plus MANY other incidents.
@@dannygray4898.. English fans have behaved like animals over the years
Football mafia from UEFAdrid and French police related to politics all play part in the downfall of the match. It could be different circumstances to the atmosphere and game as well. Worst hosting than even amateurs football. No professionalism. 🤧
French police have been awful for years. These are the same ones that where fighting their local firefighters who where protesting their pay
I’m so sorry for everybody involved last night in France. I hope you get home safe Paul
Thanks Paul for sharing this issue. My Dad was there and his statement is on the bbc but I’ll post it here for everyone to see:
I am an LFC supporter, season ticket holder, and went to the match last night with my wife. I am a retired lawyer from Devon. We are not hooligans. We arrived 2.5 hours early. To find ourselves trapped behind barricades unable to move for 1.5 hours, with more and more people being allowed to join the crush, with no explanation or organisation from the police, with my wife in tears because we were being crushed, was utterly shocking. Unfortunately I was taken ill whilst we were trapped but the police refused to let me out - thank you to the LFC supporters who lifted me and my wife over the barricades so I could receive (excellent) medical attention. I thankfully recovered and we went in to the stadium- but our view was blocked by 12 people standing in the gangway next to our seats who did not have tickets. All were French speaking, none British. The stewards would not do anything to move or remove them in spite of our requests - an unbelievable safety risk. The whole experience was one of the worst of my life - It cost me thousands of pounds for this frightening level of incompetence. Appalling. Shocking. Distressing. I will never go to a Champions League final again - have they learned nothing from Hillsborough?
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That is a disgrace mate, feel for them and everyone involved, result aside
How come none of this happend at the Madrid fans end? it almost seems as if some of these sabotagers were instructed to wreak havoc at the Liverpool fans end and steer clear of the Madrid fans end which is quite odd. This reeks of corruption and a deliberate act.
Anyway it seems like this sport was sold and bought a long time ago.
What colour shirts did those French speaking fans have on? IE were they Liverpool or Real fans? or neither?
@@keeganmurphy1 Thanks m8 this was not what everyone had in mind when supporting our club.
@@stefanrussellbouldering2375 I was angry enough in my lounge room at 5am when they delayed the kick off. Can’t believe what I’m hearing, guns pointed at people by police... tear gassed fans... I feel for everybody who was there YNWA
I can read French and have been going through what Frenchmen are saying and they are largely condemning the authorities that are putting the blame on Liverpool fans, in the next days I'm sure they won't let those who want to rewrite what happened have an easy route to get their false propaganda across.
I see what you are saying but they most likely still will end up rewriting history as per usual in most cases. The media is the enemy of the common man regardless of your background.
That's refreshing
Weird how it didn’t happen in the Madrid end 🤔
@@thelegendthemyththeman4772 I've seen videos of Madrid fans scaling a fence, careful what you bullshit about.
@@thelegendthemyththeman4772 I hope it’s not to do with Brexit, the fact that we’re not considered as European and this is payback.
I was there last night and the whole day was a joke. 45,000 fans were forced into a 10ft bottleneck between a couple of police vans to get into the fan zone earlier in the day and it really set the tone for the day. Waiting to get into the game they closed all of the gates but maybe 1 or 2 and at ours about 4/5 locals jumped the fence so they threw tear gas at hundreds of us who were trapped in metal pens. Kids crying, old people having panic attacks it was outrageous. Fair play to sky and other British media outlets for reporting the facts. UEFA trying to cover this all up as usual telling people to delete footage or they can’t access the stadium. Absolute joke
Hope you were all ok at the end of it all...?
Sorry you, your wife, Chris and Tom had to go through this Paul. Glad you guys are OK .... YNWA
god save our queen
Good on you Paul, thanks for that balanced measured response to what you were involved with. You’re a superstar mate. Probably the most confronting video you’ve ever done. Glad you and the group are okay. Much love, from Down Under mate YNWA
Had a ticket, got turned away, tear gassed twice whilst waiting to get in, then went to McDonald’s outside ground for a “safe space” only to be tear gassed again, absolutely abysmal
Awful
lol
If you paid on your Credit card, you should be able to get a refund.
Jesus what a disgrace
I'm a frenchman born and raised in Paris and i'm not surprised.
The police is quite awful whenever there's a lot of people standing somewhere even if it's a peaceful meeting.
You can thank our dear president for that
The police exists to protect its citizens - someone somewhere who hasnt witnessed billion examples in history of the opposite.
Our Prime minister is trying to create the same over here in the UK.
It's as if the world leaders in the western world are all following the same script.
Good luck with Monkey Pox and the global food shortage.
Eg. A Rothschild lacky banker who should be hanging from the nearest lamppost with rest of the puppets around the globe.
Emmanuel Macron is shocking president for France, he even praise French riot police job last night. Shocking
This is what the English get for preventing you from speaking German for the rest of time!
I went the same way as you and it was disgusting I have never felt so unsafe at a sporting event. In that bottle neck prior to the game. It was so tense no communication telling us where to go or what’s happening panic setting on watching the clock go down as kick of come closer. Getting pepper sprayed and hit with riot police. Watching little kids getting split from there parents by the riot police. Disgusting. Then on the way back I went the same way and we were surrounded by young French fans running round pick pocketing and running in to us. All the police just stood and watch us getting attacked after the game.
Young ‘French’ lads !!!
100% immigrants from north africa
Pressing masses of fans through bottlenecks alone is 80s security management. Since the Loveparade incident in 2010 in Germany where all people were sent through a narrow tunnel and panic break out (21 dead, 652 wounded) we teach everyone in civil protection, paramedics, firefighters, police etc. to avoid exactly that. Security and deescalation comes with wide open spaces and lots of entrances and exits. Even the worst hooligans in the world are nothing against a mass in panic.
Really sorry for what everyone had to go through. So many reports from fans saying the same things about the police and how they reacted.
Glad your safe
"Stay away from the police" - Welcome to the mindset of most of Australia over the last 2 years.
Here in America as well sadly.
Yep never met a cop in Australia that doesn't have a chip on their shoulder.
I was in Athens in 2007 again UEFA managed to completely fuck up the admission to the ground, it took us over 2 hrs just outside the ground crushed together with AC Milan fans (including their Ultra's) before we got in. TBF the Greek Police were not a problem as for the most part they weren't there (or just stood around smoking). The French Police need to admit they've been a disgrace to their country and shamed France! UEFA need to take a good hard look at themselves and work out how to do the one thing they exist for at least half decently and learn from past mistakes.
Just glad you, Charlie, Chris & Tom are OK, safe journey back.
I remember the Parc Des Princes in 81, being surrounded in a "ring of steel", manned by riot police etc, long before those dark days late 80's.
Terrifying how each issue in these scenarios can rapidly escalate and here we are in 2022.
You were sc*m in 80ies and still sc*m in 2022
The police were baiting fans from the beginning! Even at the fan zone hours. Disgraceful the whole time. I was never worried about my safety from other fans - it was the police
Disgraceful! I hope all is safe. Was Disgraceful to see how the liverpool fans were treated. I may be a united fan but I'm not one that likes to see liverpool fans being tarnished. I've met many people from liverpool and they are wonderful people.
Any chance you can let me know when the parade is.... Need a good laugh
@@stoicsavage509 ooh look at you!!
@@markbowers4241 great input bro.... Well done 👏
@@stoicsavage509 weird
Lots of journalists today calling out the shambles and blaming UEFA which is a start. But they shouldn't be let away with it. And trying to blame the fans is just disgraceful.
'disgusting' is the word that came to mind.
disgraceful is fine. However the word that immediately sprung to mind was 'disgusting'.
UEFA are so corrupt.
Journalists only saying that because they fear for their job if they dare say anything against scousers.
First UCL final I’ve been to, it was supposed to be the best day of my life but turned into an absolute nightmare. Never in my life have I had that much fear instilled into me, don’t know if it sounds dramatic but I was unsure whether I’d get back home or not especially when trapped in those bottlenecks with more and more people coming in! Police, stewards didn’t give a shit about anything didn’t try and stop the locals attacking us. Got in the ground at the start of kick off couldn’t enjoy a second of it seen a lad be knocked out cold by locals and robbed was just horrible. Still can’t process what happened needs a serious and thorough investigation into why this was allowed to happen.
they'll enjoy another investigation, they get to relive the thrills, the lawyers will be rubbing their hands aswell
I hope you got home safely, I'd never go to Europe for any match the police are like the Russian army and have no morals at all
@ellis Biggs, sorry to hear. I went to the champions league final in Cardiff. It was a great experience. The area next to the stadium in France isn’t very good
I was there outside Y with my son it was a absolute disgrace from the police and uefa.
French Algerians robbing people ,kids crying and women too you genuinely felt your life was being taken away totally empty after that.
After the game on that train and walking back to hotel thank god we are both okay.
There was so many little scumbags in thr city and fan park all weekend robbing people and starting trouble
I hope you and you're son are OK, absolutely disgusting scenes
I’m so sorry this happened to you and everyone. Hope you and your son are ok.
"French Algerians" bit racist that. There are millions of Moroccans & Tunisians in France too you know.
@@biglad3828 bit dim lad. Can't you read?
Thank you for the video Paul. I was hoping you would put something out to shed some light on what happened. The game happened and we lost fair play to Madrid, but I can't help but think of what that trauma did to our supporters and how it could have been different with proper organization. I think it's got to be hard to move on to match of footy after being tear gassed/pepper sprayed.
I am French and I am ashamed. Unfortunately, I can testify that this chaos has become our daily life in France. France, it is the total laxity!
Liverpool fans have been to 62 games this season without any major problems. We’ve been to 6 major European finals since Hillsborough prior to yesterday, and they went off without any issue. And yet yesterday is somehow the fault of Liverpool fans and not shambolic planning by Uefa, French authorities, and heavy handed French police with an authoritarian streak who couldn’t wait to use their military grade toys on men, women, and children who just wanted to watch their team play a game of football. The lack of empathy of some football fans, along with a wretched and blinkered tribalism, is disturbing and depressing.
Logistically speaking, I don't think they knew what they were doing other than pocketing money. Not to sound like an arrogant American but college American football 🏈 games and the super bowl have better security and ticket vetting process. Some games bring in hundreds of thousands, like when LSU plays Alabama or Ohio State plays Michigan.
Also why was the RM fan zone closer whereas the liverpool fan zone further away?
I'm sick to the stomach of the spiteful bile, and out right hate, dressed up as 'tribalism' and 'banter' that pervades football from fully grown adults hiding behind social media, comment and message boards. It is disgusting, sad, and pathetic. What is it that makes football fans act like utter scum? The events last night should provide utter contempt from everyone in football and beyond, and yet we have to put up with what-aboutery and point scoring from so called fans of other teams. It seems, after the disgusting 'victim\murderers' chanting from Shrewsbury Town\City\Everton\United\(Insert team here) etc this year alone, and the behaviour and point scoring after last night, that we have learned very little and not moved on much from Hillsborough. It's appalling and embarrassing.
6 major European finals since Hillsborough prior to yesterday, and they went off without any issue? Clearly you didn't go to them all. I did. Athens was a shambles. Had a legit ticket and got locked out of ground and tear gassed. 15 years later (yes I was there last night) and same thing happened but worse.
@@PizzaLord First off, sorry that you had to go through that all twice. I wasn’t at any of the finals, no, but what I meant is that something akin to Hillsborough or Heysel didn’t happen, or a major delay because of poor planning like yesterday. I was making a point in order to defend our fans. I wasn’t insinuating that those finals were perfectly planned, but what happened yesterday will be infamous and will mar the final when people look back at it. From what I was aware of, there had been no such issues in the 6 previous finals. I had heard of the trouble in Athens before, but clearly I forgot about it, so I apologise for my ignorance.
@@conorkennedy1687 UEFA never learn because they don't want to learn. Never have cared about fans. Never will.
The immediate reaction from media, other fans, social media was disgraceful. As soon as it was delayed, Hillsborough was trending number 3 in the UK, and the comments were unforgivable. Videos were reposted, all blaming Liverpool fans. UEFA lied about what happened repeatedly
…to be fair…every journo I follow on Twitter called UEFA out on the ‘fans turning up late’ lie that they tried to push…
Oh here we go.. why does this only happen when liverpool fans are involved
Did UEFA lie about Heysel?
@@hughzapretti-boyden9187 How many times are you going to comment about that on this post you weirdo?
@@hughzapretti-boyden9187 muppet
I couldn’t care less about the result tbf. I was n tears before the game , all I could think of was the 97 at Hillsborough. It’s still affecting me today ! This is criminal and should be treated as such ? It’s the only way to stop it happening again .
I'm French and I'm really ashamed of what happened yesterday
I hope you will be reimbursed, my apologies
And your president Emmanuel Macron praise french riot police and France is gonna to host Summer Olympics in 2024 in 2 years time. Shocking times
I love France It's culture, it's food. But, your police force brutalizes its own citizens. No wonder French people vote for marine le pen as a protest vote. Long live the yellow coats.
I'm an Everton fan and thought the way Liverpool fan's were treated was vile, obviously I didn't want Liverpool to win the Champions league but certainly didn't want men women and children going to watch the club they love essentially being treated as scum, I've seen footage online and seen reporting from plenty of people to know this is a disgrace, btw pple climbing over to get in were defo a community that lives in Paris (if you know what I mean)
Your not a Everton fan your a Liverpool fan ask yourself this Q why is it always lfc
@@zacksnow1979 Yawn, well done Snowy. Where's Flakey today?
If it was Everton these RS would show no mercy la. Look at them last time we were in France. It's never them at fault, always the authorities. Mention Heysel and it gets all hazey there.
Wasn't just the police, the parasians were singling out lone supporters and small groups on the trains and battering them. There were several liverpool fans laid out cold on the platforms and the police done absolutely nothing to stop it,, imagine if that was us attacking the locals.. me and my brother boarded our first train of 3 with a fair few supporters, on the train there was some local men shouting in French trying to goad us into fighting, all the fans ignored it and nothing happened, the fans we were with got off at the next stop and it was just me and my brother in this section by ourselves for one more stop, the second the door closed the locals were in our face, being aggressive, luckily we was able to walk through to the next carriage and could see a fair few liverpool supporters in there so stood with them, if it wasn't for that I feel we would have probably spent the night in hospital and we done absolutely nothing wrong, the police weren't there to protect us one bit
Sounds horrible, hope you are all well . I have a young son..I'm never going to carry him to a European away.. scary stuff . Thanks for this video .YNWA
My heart sank and it took me back to being a kid watching the Heysel game on tv when I heard of delays and crowd problems. Just want my comrades to come home safe and sound and back to their families. Something was off last night. Thanks for all your great work Paul, YNWA. Just to add that I’m disappointed with Mane, making this about maybe being his last game was a story we didn’t need. Plus side was that Konate was supreme at the back, can’t wait to see him next year.
Absolutely sickening the stuff that happened last night, I hope you guys got home safely.
I was listening to it on the radio and couldn’t believe it, absolutely disgusting, I felt so bad for everyone who should have been having the best times ever. I was in Seville for the Rangers game, and although nowhere NEAR as bad, it was still a complete shambles. That was in a different country so I think the weak link has to be UEFA. They are administrators but couldn’t organise a Sunday league match. This should never be allowed to happen again.
I went to Disney land Paris with the kids a few years ago and the park was full of aggressive French police with guns
I remember at the time feeling very uncomfortable that I was in a place of joy yet felt very nervous that blokes with loaded guns could get pissed off and snap
The French police have always had a reputation doesn’t help that half of them are headcases
Well, historically those holding the guns in France have a reputation of violent mobs taking their heads off.
Why was Disneyland of all places being policed like that?
@@anthtan I think most places in France are policed that way. I remember going to Disneyland 15 years ago and my first memory on arrival was a heavy police presence with big assault rifles which was scary and uncomfortable for a 10 year old. It was a similar story venturing into Paris, can't remember ever feeling fully relaxed whilst there.
@@matt-ir1xq [gulp]
Sky sports are all over this atm. Even the jernos are disgusted. Jernos that filmed it have been forced to delete videos of what happened or they wouldn't be allowed in the stadium.
Thanks Paul for sharing. So sorry to hear that you guys had to go through all these in Paris, hope everyone got back safely. YNWA
There has to be a full investigation into this farce and the French police and UEFA need to be held accountable. I was affected sitting at home on Twitter reading tweets of people that were there. I'm gutted for all those affected by this and I hope something is done to make sure this never happens again!
Keep up the good work Paul! Love listening to you 👏🏼
Well explained Paul. Thanks for making us aware of what went on. The French Police are a total disgrace. Hope it didn’t completely ruin it for you and you family.
Thanks for sharing ; as a french and Liverpool Fan (since 77), I feel for Liverpool fans and all the people involved. It is disgrace... Sorry you had to go through this...
Totally agree I never want to experience anything like that again. Was horrible getting tear gassed for purely standing outside the gates waiting to gain entry. Wouldn't wish that experience on any football fan. Truly terrifying
Sad news but thank you very much Paul. You and all the team at Redmen TV did a brilliant job getting this message out. I'm so glad that you guys are reds.... I hope UEFA face the music over this. Next year, we'll be back
Great to see the truth being spoken out with all the misinformation being spread around Twitter yesterday
It's worth mentioning that Merseyside Constabulary officers who travelled as observers described the behaviour of the Liverpool supporters as "exemplary".
@@geoffpoole483 The same police who looked the other way when City’s coach was horrendously attacked?
UEFA also lied about Eriksen at the Euro's last year when they claimed that all the players had agreed to play on. They only agreed after they had been threatened with sanctions by UEFA.
Hi Paul, French fan here, i saw you in the line at McDonald's at place de Clichy on Saturday afternoon, said hi to Chris who was outside. I'm terribly sorry and ashamed of my country that you had to experience this. What was going to be a great day turned into a disaster. I was happy that the final was in Paris but it was also a big risk because of the location of stadium (one of the worst place around Paris) and the total incompetence and arrogance of the french authorities. And then after all that the lies of the politicians...
Hope you and your friends and relatives are all well.
Sorry again.
Really spot-on take on the situation. Extremely depressing situation. French Police, UEFA, French Minister of Sport, bandwagoning rival fans should all be ashamed of themselves. I am thankfully we live in the social media age because a lot of the lies told will be exposed. I hope the club do everything in their power here, the inquiry is arguably a watershed moment for modern football. There's still a lot of work to do. All the best to Paul and everyone at Redmen who was there.
Let's hope France doesnt get to hold any major final or tournament for a very, very long time
Too bad they're hosting Rugby World Cup in 2023 & Summer Olympics in 2024. Shocking times
@@lfcspectre4335 they should strip them of the olympics and we could hold it in London again. We have most of the facilities in place. The only things that are not were temporary stadia anyway so could easily be put in place again.
@@Jerrymouse79 From of English mate, am Irish.
Paul, my respect for yourself Chris & co is HUGE, so sorry for what you have been through, seemingly these IDIOTS in charge of our safety will never learn it's 2022 for F*SAKE, the experience you have been through will take some recovery from, much love to you all and thank you for posting this extremely upsetting video..
I was at the game with my 12 year old son and was fortunate to have the better Category 1 seats, but walked past the Liverpool end gate and realized straight away that something wasn’t right. Too many people lining up outside and it was causing a bottleneck to get to our gate. But everyone was behaving and waiting in line. Got to our gate and there was zero stewardship to control the line, the fans took it upon themselves to create an orderly line, but again it was creating a barrier for fans getting thru to get to their gates. The line was painfully slow, which makes no sense when using e-tickets. When we got closer to the turnstiles, a full 45 minutes after starting the line, I noticed many Liverpool fans barging in to skip the line and most of them had no valid tickets. The stewards were more like bouncers forcing these people out. The only 2 policemen at the gate did nothing but watch! At this point I must also point out that there were quite a few local youths trying to jump the fence and get in, 2 of them actually made it! The police finally got off their ass and moved the other kids away! Some Liverpool fans tried the same trick and for a few minutes the atmosphere got tense, with genuine Liverpool fans with valid tickets verbally attacking the ones trying to get in illegally. Finally at the turnstile we were thru in 10 seconds, no idea why it had to be slow to get in when the technology is so fast! I did see 2 fans try to get in with one ticket! It was genuine too, but both got kicked out and ticket retrieved!! Now, you would think it’s plain sailing from now on in! Hell no, no one could tell us where was out section T11!! All the stewards were clueless, after 20 minutes of running around based on false information one UEFA steward told us that many people were confused about T11 and told us how yo FIND it!! It had the smallest of signs behind a pillar!! So no police inside the ground, the stewards totally incompetent and once at our seat we couldn’t even order a drink as there was no signal to use the QR code service. For such a large venue not to have a working free-wifi system says it all. I was trying to contact my wife to let her know we were safe but just couldn’t get a signal. We had many empty seats around us and these tickets aren’t cheap. No doubt got caught out in the trouble. I was thinking of staying for the ceremony but my son wanted to leave as he was scared. There was again zero stewardship outside and thousands of us walked into a cul-de-sac of locked gates, no one to indicate how to leave the stadium. There were plenty of gates to the street but were all locked! We ended up walking down a ramp and I feared the over crowding. Plenty of police waiting for us at the bottom but with no suggestions of where to go next! I decided to walk to where the crowds were less dense and finally got an Uber an hour later! Just terrible experience after experiencing Kiev, Madrid, Istanbul, Doha where there were zero issues! Paris should never host another CL Final. Even the fan zone at the Hotel de Ville was crap! No thought put into it! 99.9% of fans behaved, but that 0.01% should be held accountable. Don’t have a ticket? Stay home!! YNWA
I live in Portland, OR - in the US, and I have had the same reaction to police that your wife had. I feel her fear. The police should be on our side not against us. I'm so sorry that the day was marred by such unacceptable behavior. The parade yesterday was beautiful! YNWA
Paul, I have been a Liverpool supporter since 1997, I support them because my brother does. I’m as far away from Liverpool in England as I could be but I absolutely love Liverpool FC. I had no knowledge of supporting your local team etc I just believed you followed who you loved so that’s what me and my brother do. I’ve always loved watching your channel and RedMenTV, you guys really transpire that message of togetherness that I love about LFC. Anyway I don’t know what point I’m trying to make other than my heart is red and I think the work you do is phenomenal. Keep up the great work mate ❤️
I saw it already in the first helicopter live stream that something must be wrong. Madrid supporters were already in the stadium while hundreds of Liverppool supporters still standing in line outside of Stade de France. From that point on, I didn't trust any of the 'reasons' media published. Thanks for your insight, Paul. Much appreciated!
Glad you're safe. I can't believe what I saw happen.
Hi Paul,David here from Ireland… met you in Beauvais yesterday….thanks for taking the time to chat and photo…disappointing weekend but we will march again…thanks again for all your hard work and dedication….YNWA
A real eye opener to what a shambles it all was. Sorry to hear about this happening to law abiding football fans.
Great channel Paul, sorry to hear about what you and the other fans endured. Nice your giving some real perspective to the situation, life long Liverpool fan from Chesterfield 👍🏿😎
I’m French and I want to apologize on behalf of many French citizens who don’t believe the lies of our government. I feel ashamed ! There are many reasons for this chaos, farce, fiasco, call it as you want.
1- 3 months to organize it was too short and they did not take into account that so many fans from Liverpool will come to Paris. They did not manage the flow of the people, from the city to Stade de France.
2- On top of that, there was a strike of the best train line to go to Stade de France, RER Line B, and it made all the British fans taking the RER D which concourses are much too narrow to handle properly such a flow of people at the same time with check points to check tickets
3- there was not enough stewards because they are very difficult to recruit and most of them are inexperienced because since Covid, most of the experience ones found another job, better and more paid. The stewards did not direct the fans toward other concourses to reach the stadium and avoid this bottleneck
4- once the police open the checkpoints to avoid to have injured or dead people because of the crowd movement, it created chaos around Stade de France and this is when the worst happened: the thugs of Saint-Denis, mostly French came to extort and abuse Liverpool fans. Such a disgrace, I feel so bad for Liverpool fans and families. So ashamed as French citizen. 😟🙏🏼
5- Many fake paper tickets blocked the turnstiles of the entrance of Stade de France and so, the genuine ones could not even enter because the turnstiles where blocked.
6- In this chaos, many thugs of Paris suburbs climbed the gate and enter without tickets.
7- all this chaos triggered the decision-making of the chief of the Paris Police to launch assault to disperse all people, the good fans, the French thugs and the fans with no or with fake tickets. By using pepper and tears gas they touched everyone, including kids and women.
8- The biggest blame is of course on the UEFA and the French authorities. It’s for the most part their fault and their responsibility. But, and I know it’s hard to hear for British people, there are so small responsibilities on the other side: French are not used to have the majority of the fans of a team coming to a game without tickets and there was no collaboration between British authorities, Liverpool FC and the French authorities to coordinate it and handle them properly. 2- Even if it was much less than what the French minister and UEFA said, there was thousands of fake or true-fake paper tickets with a valid QR code. Most of Liverpool fans had paper tickets while Real Madrid fans had electronic tickets that can’t be duplicated. It’s a fact and it made the situation of bad organization from French authorities and UEFA even worse.
9- At the end it’s a disgrace and UEFA and French authorities should do their self- criticize. The blame is on them for the most part, but still some responsibilities are also on the other side.
Don't forget about all the pickpockets and looters coming to try and steal peoples items. Sorry to say but a lot of them were North African migrants from what I could see and what my friends said who were there.
@@DrumNBassed That exactly my points and I said it in my point 4, if you read me well. That's the most disgusting and outrageous. So ashamed of it :( Unfortunately, most of them are French, even if they have North African origins ! They live just near by the stadium
The scary thing is that's the stadium that's holding the Rugby World Cup Final in a few months time and if they make a shambles of this and don't learn then whats next.
Hopefully the thugs try and mug a few rugby supporters. Not gonna be pretty for them
Sorry you had such a bad experience in Paris last night.. I was at both Heysel and Hillsborough and can tell you I was really scared at both for different reasons.... At Heysel, we had no idea what was going on, the match was a farce and getting the coach back to Bruges was extremely scary as the coach was attacked by Juve fans. At Hillsborough, luckily we did what we did in the previous year and went in the side terrace but in the surge of the fans, we lost my dad and didn't find him for half an hour. He had ended up in the middle pen but has gotten out before the major push that killed all the supporters... Apologies for the ramble... :-( #YNWA #JFT97 #UEFAarecorrupt
Lets hope no one was seriously hurt, honestly from what I've seen, it was a shit show. No doubt the Uefa will try and blame it on us. YNWA.
Really sad you and all those families had to go through such an ordeal. Good that you're safe man, YNWA.
Glad your ok Paul and the lads , thanks for all the content through the years. Finally up the fuckin reds I love this team , the comeback is always greater than the setbacks we will win more trophies 🏆 with this team 🙌 👏 💪.
Really insightful. I was updating my wife about what was going on and when she asked why is it happening all I could say is I don't know
On the day the Hillsborough disaster happened I was a kid at Celtic Park watching Glasgow Rangers play St Johnston in the cup semi final. We left the game and was in a tight spot getting out. The police came through hard on horses, what was already a bad situation turned almost deadly very quickly. I can still remember the helpless feeling of not being in control of where I was going, feet off the ground and squished. We got out and went to the car where after turning on the radio for scores around the grounds we were sat there stunned listening to what was going on in Sheffield. A terribly sad day that will be etched into my memories forever.
Paul looks on the verge of tears with what he's seen.
Yet I've seen so many arseholes on Twitter choosing to blame others instead of wishing for their well being. It's disgraceful.
Really hope everyone got out okay 🙏❤
More like a bad hangover probably!
We left 10 minutes after final whistle and weren’t allowed to cross the bridge. The police funnelled us down the underpass where dozens of French thugs were waiting for us. Absolutely frightening experience. The Police left us to it.
"french" thugs means african "refugees"
@@oscarslife5497 listen that may be . Does it matter, all the police had to do was clear the area ahead of the game, set up a perimeter , keep these locals out, they were criminals either way of skin color, they had no football gear on, no tickets... a proper security set up would have kept them away... when they saw the frenzy they called their mates to join, as it was a free for all...
@@stevo7125 they are not locals they are not French they are Immigrants why are you too frightened to say that fact!
The police came prepared for trouble & did their best to try & get trouble.
The fact that it didn’t kickoff, with the pure provocation of the police & the local youth, Liverpool fans should be proud of!!
Thanks for doing this Paul, for telling your own personal story of what you've seen or witness of last night disgraceful organisation from UEFA, French police & authorities. Aleksander Ceferin the president of UEFA & Emmanuel Macron president of France have got lot of explaining to do for football fans in general, whatever it was Liverpool or Real Madrid fan's for not getting into the stadium with their well earned tickets. The shocking thing about this is France is gonna host Summer Olympics in 2024.
Shit stadium, shit city, shit venue. Disaster from the start of the night. Let’s just hope we do come back stronger next year
I’ve been following Liverpool across Europe for many years - my 1st experience my dad took me and brother in 1981 to our 1st game and subsequently hooked on my beloved Reds - I’ve seen the good and the bad you could say over the years… I moved to Perth Australia 16 years ago / and honestly miss it so much.
I made the decision to goto Paris and acquired a ticket via Uefa ‘not cheap’ but just needed to go to see and soak up with the Liverpool FAMILY… After a very long trip I arrived and went straight to my hotel ‘Mob Hotel Paris Les Puces’ maybe the name lived up to the area! But it was the cheapest I could find thinking it was just a base - around 3pm Friday I thought I’d have a quick look around to get my bearing / 5 mins later I was back in the hotel ‘frightening is my only summary’ - In fairness to the Hotel/ Staff = beautiful and very friendly.
Match day… all I can honestly I had someone on my shoulder last Saturday!
Again reading all the negative comments towards Liverpool ‘so wrong’, I was at the Fanzone very early poorly managed by the police 50,000+ people shoe horned into 3 single entry points - I dIdn’t see any trouble apart from heavy handed police? I decided to head to the ground early just after 3 - pickpockets everywhere on the tube… got off at the stadium station to be greeted by the African ‘French’ locals hurling abuse, spitting and abusing Men, Women and kid’s again police we saw not bothered pretty scary. I said to the lad I was with we just need to get in it was just so hostile/ nearer the ground we watched in amazement 4 of these characters scale a massive wall ‘disbelief to be honest’ again police watching? Presented my phone to get past the 1st entry / someone tried to grab it. I managed to get in the ground early thank God because what happened in the next couple of hours was a joke. I honestly don’t know how I didn’t get mugged after the game / 45 mins to get a taxi in the middle of trouble I was shitting myself as I was on my own! Wake up call for me… the game was irrelevant and Liverpool fans in the ground very deflated / it was very sad + reading all the bad things that have happened - Sunday my flight was at 5pm my plan was to see as much as I could - but at 8am I just went to Airport just needed to get away! Some very sad stories with people returning home.
These French refugees are the next generation for Europe! the same ones trying to get over the channel! I’m still in disbelief - especially how it’s been reported and also knowing some of our fans are not perfect/ but I didn’t see any of that last week - only the Red Family looking out for each other.
Proud to be a Edge Hill Scouser
Sounds super scary. Im just glad no one was killed. As soon as they kept announcing on TV that match delayed due to "fans arriving late" I knew something was up. You don't get that number of fans arriving late without a system failure but....suprise suprise.... The fans get the blame.
to be honest Paul, all the media reports ive seen support your version of events rather than the lies UEFA and French officials were putting out in the past 24 hours. Glad you got out safe. I was at Basel too and that was brilliantly organised, i agree (apart from our plane being "lost" at the airport so we arrived home about 4 hrs late haha)
I’m from Luxembourg and we are used to the catastrophic organization of the french. It is a well known fact that they are completely incompetent in that area. I’m sorry that you has to experience that, and that they are know trying to put the blame on the liverpool fans.
Was happy to see you some of the big ups in the reporting business getting caught up in the Carnage now they know what it's like to be on the receiving end
Sounds horrendous & appreciate you sharing the truth. Sounds like a nightmare return to the bad old days & awful experience regardless of whether we won or lost. France seems a very devided & confused country at the moment with the rise of the far right etc. I certainly won't be going to France any time soon.
Yeah so many far right hooligans jumping the gates and mugging the visitors on the way out. Such a French thing to do !
Stop reading the papers and get out and experience the world for yourself. Trust me ,all cultures and behaviours are not the same.
thank you lefty, so many reds on this thread, ho ho ho
@@nickfranklin6495 It's the Redmen channel so probably would be a few Liverpool fans on here don't you think & who says I'm lefty? The rise of the far right is a fact in France so why not share your thoughts with Marine Le Pen , I'm sure she'll be keen to hear you out lol.
@@ragerider6283 your comment is full of errors. police thugs have got nothing to do with right wing politics. the reds i refer to are not liverpool fans, how do you not know this? best not to use propaganda youve been fed and pass it on as your own thoughts
@@nickfranklin6495I know exactly what you're getting at, lefty, red, socialist blah blah, hence my tongue in cheek comments & I have no interest in engaging as I don't agree. Also the irony of your last comment of me passing off propaganda I'm "fed" as my own thoughts if true, is exactly what you're doing from your own perspective lol. You just sound like another pseudo-intellectual fake news conspiracy theorist keyboard warrior & if you don't think police brutality as ever had anything to do with right wing politics you're kidding yourself. Believe whatever you want, I really don't mind but don't preach like you're somehow superior & "know the truth" while us poor deluded sheep mindlessly totter through life. France is a tinderbox with lots of division(s) & social tension (although don't we all I guess) which is epitomised by the rise of the far right. This in turn feeds in to how the French police, who have a reputation for heavy handiness & brutality anyway, tend to handle things. The way policing is carried out is a reflection of that society. There's a lot of frustrated, angry & disenfranchised people on all sides & the way the state & in this case the police, handle these types of situations, by extremes, is a reflection of that. The far right has significant influence both directly & indirectly. It's not the only or even main reason but it's still a contributing factor to some extent.
Well said and thanks for sharing. Embarrassing management of the game, can't believe it. Hope all supporters are ok.
In the space of a fortnight British football has had two clubs play major finals and in both matches UEFA and the host venue have failed, both could have had deaths and am surprised that there weren't especially in Sevilla as a rangers fan.
Whatever happens, next UEFA needs to let an outside company handle someone who knows wtf to do because it's embarrassing to the highest levels.
I am glad you are safe in the end, Paul, you and your wife!
I do know and understand what you are talking about... A mere disgrace indeed, what those savage French authorities are all about!
Thanks for the update. Get home safely
This should never have taken place in France after the past 3 years of gang related football violence in the country. French police treat their own countrymen worse than this and people expected to be welcomed?
It doesn't take long to search certain websites to find the videos of what really happened and what triggered the whole thing.
If you hold an event in Paris you need to expect to have hundreds of foreign born French citizens storming the gates and creating carnage. How were people so unaware of all the violence at French games this season? Or the constant violence outside them.
Migrant gangs have created a new wave of Ultras in France, men who have witnessed great violence in their homelands now recreating the scenes on French streets.
May I ask where you find the videos
No . The violence you describe is directed at rioters and protesters not ordinary people walking on the street.
Reddit, daily motion, nearly all of the major youtube competitors even 4chan if you're feeling brave, telegram groups. Pretty much any video uploading website the news and government tell you not to visit.
@@jpswaddle7899 you cited 4chan and Reddit as your sources like those are credible or something lmao. Bizarre
If we are talking credibility of sources no one can be trusted.
I was referring to the 100s of mobile uploads to these sites from those at the event. They may not be from the event, they could be fake but the LCFC and RM fans plus all over the advertising suggest they are. I will leave it to your own eyes to make a decision.
absolutely gutted we lost.... still proud of our team.. but the scenes outside the stadium on our supporters was shocking! i hope everyone was ok.... an hope something gets done about it! ynwa..
Hi Paul,
Really interesting video to hear a take on it from a fans perspective.
I have a French friend who said the police in France are notorious, she also said they are stressed out. Overworked and undermanned. No excuse for their behaviour though. I blame uefa the money cows, they should have paid for private security and organised it better. My friend said too that area where the stade de France is has a huge crime problem. I'm glad you are safe Paul.
I toured Stade de France 2wks ago. My family living in Paris were wary of going as St-Dennis is just known for bad behavior from Police and a few others. We were told of concerts leading up to the game so I know UEFA and French authorities didn’t care about finding time to rehearse crowd management at stadium-too busy with concerts
You are aware that this stadium hosts massive 6 nations rugby games every year ? It's not a one off event for them , they are used to major sporting events with thousands of travelling fans .
@@simonjames1964 The French police have admitted to Le Parisien that normally they’d have 18 months to organize but only had 3 because it was a changed venue. I doubt they had 3mos-looking at what I saw a couple weeks ago they had maybe 3 days this time.
In the live pre-match coverage in America both Thierry Henry and Jamie Carragher IMMEDIATELY called bullshit on the “fans arriving late” narrative. I’ve never been one to go to big events and this just reinforces it for me. Sorry for you and everyone else that had to go through that.
Based on what I'm seeing, almost everyone is happy Liverpool lost. Apparently we are cocky, arrogant and annoying. Maybe we should have printed some ucl #7 shirts
Bro it's not because liverpool lost because how disrespect the english pundits showed to real madrid so this stuff was the hate for them not for liverpool mostly
@@elhalcon777 i genuinely couldnt believe how all the pundits just wrote real madrid off like that, most fans knew it was going to be a close match with vini vs trent being the key battle (and in the end that was exactly what decided the match)
@@robjones9696 Nothing will change my mind that Madrid are fucking shit, they played like Burnley ffs. Most undeserved win in the history of football.
You are, tbf.
@Dragon Ball fans can't read well, they’re right lol. You can’t seem to beat them
Great article mate, thanks for sharing. Glad you are safe. YNWA
Unfortunately, we’re seeing what all authorities do. Take no responsibility and push the blame on those who can’t properly defend themselves. Problem is, too many idiots lap it up for the sake of banter. Credit to Sky for their very good reporting of the issues and the many journalists who reported the same. Unfortunately, people would rather listen to random Twitter posts rather than people who were actually there.
Paul ya look wrecked lad!
An important video this though. Truth be told. Hope you get home safely guys.