Quick update. After watching your video, I realized how much I missed that Roksan sound after my Caspian M Series-1, so I went out and bought one. LOL. The Roksan house sound is just addictive, it is dynamic, punchy and yet lush and sweet. In my opinion, it has the best of both worlds in the sense that it is a highly exciting amp without sounding bright. You can enjoy an EDM track as much as when you are chilling out to some female jazz vocals like Diana Krall for example. Some say the Roksan puts a rosy tint on the music especially jazz vocals almost with a certain Class A characteristic if you will to an extent. It may not be the most neutral amp out there, if that is what you are after you will need to look elsewhere, but it sure makes your music more enjoyable, at least to my ears.
The Blak is one of the best integrated amps I have heard with the Dali Rubicon. does the Caspian sound sharp in the highs? or is it smooth? this is one area the blak can sometimes have some tendency. That said, yes, very musical amp -- looks cool too!
@@mykeldg Sharp in the highs? Not really. When I auditioned the Caspian M Series-1 at the time, I heard it with a pair of Quad 11L or 12L. The guy played Diana Krall's "S'Wonderful" for me. It was just sweet and with a slight rosy tint. I was pretty much sold immediately. It is also punchy and dynamic. The thing about the Caspian is don't overdo it with the volume. If you listen to your music loud, the 85W is not enough. I had a pair of Tannoy Sensys DC2 back then and I did clip the Caspian a few times. But, if you hook it up to a nice pair of standmount such as the Quad 12L, listen to some female vocals, as long as you listen to it within its limits, it is a very enjoyable experience. Just pour yourself a drink and chill. I had the Marantz PM 7002 already which was a great amp for the money, somehow I still went for the Caspian M Series-1. The Blak is similar, but perhaps even smoother with more composure. Having said that, while it is much more powerful than the Caspian, it only has 150W into 8 ohms and 230W into 4 ohms. To be objective, at that price point, you could also audition the Musical Fidelity M6si and it has 70W more at 220W into 8 ohms. The thing is it only has 1 x USB input when it comes to digital inputs. For my next upgrade, I would definitely take a look at the M8xi. 550W into 8 ohms and has all the digital inputs you need.
@@Rascallucci interesting, I found the blak very lush indeed and has a lot of drive, forward in the midrange as well as having a bit of bite at the top. I didn't have room treatments back then so that is probably one of the cause. Which one do you prefer between MF and Roksan? Only one thing wished it had was tone controls
@@mykeldg Yes, lush is the word and the midrange is a little forward. It is the kind of sound that is easy to like although one could argue it is not the most neutral or may be a little coloured. Between Roksan and MF, I think Roksan up to a certain level until you need more power. MF is definitely not quite as lush, plus everything is forward. I would say it depends on your speakers. If you run a pair of Dynaudio Evoke 50 for example with a 4 ohm load dropping down to 3 ohm, at 87 dB sensitivity and a true 3-way, not saying the Blak can't drive it, but it certainly doesn't hurt to give it more juice. I suppose I will find out soon enough as I am planning to get a pair myself. LOL. The thing about MF is its specs vs price point ratio is through the roof. Can you name another amplifier brand that gives an even bigger bang for the buck? I can't. Having said that, I wouldn't consider MF as high end if indeed you are just about to cross into that threshold. For true high end, if you like the Roksan house sound, I think you will like the Gryphon Diablo 300. It might look weird, but its sound is something else. It is punchy and meaty.
Wow I think your videos are the best in this medium: many many thanks. And here what I see is that the diference is almost imperceptible, in fact there are harmonics where Onkyo I think it looks better despite the difference with Roksan of almost 10 times the price in the US.
thanks! yes I find it hard to find a modestly priced replacement for the Onkyo 9150 since I have a small room. With the levels i am listening at, it doesn't sound bad beside more expensive amps. And yes it does have more brilliance & sparkle and also bass extension which is a bit more fun than other purist amps.
Thank you very much for aswering. I am a superfan of these things, every day I am thinking about how to build a system with guaranteed high performance and I am reviewing everything online: from speakers, amplifiers, preamps, dacs, anyway. I have some very good theories I belive in my way of seeing systems from $1000 to $5000 dollars. And your videos have helped me a lot to verify those ideas that I have because it seems that we are practically in the same sector in price and quality. Finally I would like to give you some suggestions if you allow me: I have seen reviews of the keces E40 integrated amplifier and I think that you could get all the possible juice in addition to the excelent reviews that it has seems to be a killer and another very interesting product would be Polk L100 I think it breaks it. Do you think that one day there would be a possibility that you would give us that demo sound? - Regards.
This is a good video to prove what kind a problem a novice audiophile faces when he has bought Onkyo 9150 and is looking for something even better. I have a 9150 for 3 years and have not found a significantly better amplifier even for 3000. More powerful yes, but not better sounding :)
hahaha, can't help laughing out when I watch your girl dancing and singing with the Roksan. She's a gienius for stage performance! Did she learn it from watching music radio? A lot of moves are very professional! My daughter is 10 years old. So I really enjoy watching little girls letting themselves go just like my daughter. By the way, I do enjoy your comparison videos. Onkyo 9150 is certainly a valuable buy though Roksan sounds certainly more relaxed and easy in driving out the high and lows. Given that the used amp market priced Marantz pm5005 almost half or a third of the Onkyo 9150 at least hear in China, I would say the Marantz is also a nice bang in the bucks if I remember clearly the subtle difference between it and Onkyo in your other video.
Witaj przyjacielu bardzo ciekawy kanał ! Roksan dla mnie lepszy w: bass control i male vocals , pozostałe kategorie porównywalne ( lepszy trochę Roksan ). Konkluzja : cenowo różnica duża , ale w kategoriach wrażeń słuchowych nieadekwatna do ceny . P.s. bardzo ciekawy ten zespół Jing Chi , lubie jazz rock ( machavishnu orchestra ) pozdrowienia z Polski
If I had to choose an amp, it would be the Roksan. Better dynamics and harmonics in the treble. Mid-range is also very good. Depending on how important dynamics are to you and the type of music you listen to, the Onkyo rates at around 70% of the sound quality of the Roksan, which is a fantastic result, given the price difference. Better synergy between the Roksan/cables and the speaker than the Onkyo. A different combination could reduce the difference further. A valve buffer on the Onkyo after the RCA outputs ( google, FX audio), would also close the gap. Thank you for posting, as always.
The Onkyo has a more balanced sound and due to the current It handles It can sound this good, practically with any speaker, also in cost quality it is more convenient than the Roksan ! Onkyo 👌
Onkyo 9150 definitely very good value for money. It has 600VA giant transformer and 2 x oversized caps. I cant find any other brand that has these components below $1000. Even Cambridge CXA81 & Audiolab 8300a has only less than 250-300va transformer.
I have the Onkyo A9150, I got it on sale 2 yrs ago for $350 ,I believe now it's $499 I don't have any complaints about it anyways I'm not spending $3000-$4000 for a Integrated amp
Just came here from the other comparison with the Ragnarok. Again this is pretty close, much closer than it has any right to be for an amp that costs £280 (Onkyo) vs £2800 for the Roksan here in the UK. I've listened several times and the Onkyo can do most of the things the Roksan can for one tenth of the price: detail, sweet mid range, deep bass, sound stage and imaging are harder to judge over headphones but the budget Onkyo has me pretty interested. The sound seems to have more soul than other budget but well-reviewed amps I tried like the Audiolab 6000A and the Rotel a11 Tribute as well. One question: is it a bit big and ugly in the flesh?
I‘m using Dali Rubicon 5s with Yamaha R-N602. I‘m wondering, if the Rocksan could be a significant upgrade for my Daliis. The Yamaha performs similar to the Roksan, but sometimes I miss deep bass and I wish I could not only hear the bass, but also feel it. 😃
Hard to say as i only have few experience with amps so far. Regarding deeper bass, Not sure but to me the onkyo 30w has deeper bass than the roksans. I think higher end amps will give you more control on the bass which dali already excel at. That said roksan gives more dynamics and plenty of air between instruments, blacker background. Vocals are also more solid. But i have to say i prefer the looser deeper bass on the onkyo. Other amps suggested for dali are nad, denon rega hegel and also yamaha as 1200 or 2200.
@@galessi1226 thanks I am in India and here we don't have that vast used market for HiFi. Secondly learned Denon and Marantz are heavily marketing through TH-camrs and e-commerce sites and very few dealer had Onkyo.
its quite an unfair comparison since The Roksan is almost 5x more in price. With the Roksan, it has much better bass control, dynamics, more forward vocals. Soundstage has tons of space between instruments, blacker background, and is more holographic. What is interesting is how high the value for money is on the Onkyo since it doesn't sound bad beside the Roksan despite being much much lower in cost. The Onkyo has more brilliance/sparkle and the tonal balance is more even handed whereas the Roksan is mid-centric, more forward & muscular in comparison.
@@mykeldg I have the Marantz 6006 with kef Meta “ . which I bought used and I hate it “ the marantz is so squeaky maybe i got a defective unit so i put back my Onkyo 9150 and it’s better, but like everyone else with this hobby Im wondering if there is better, so am thinking to get the schiit Aegir for the kefs or the nad 316 bee do you think I can get better Than these with the $800 budget . Am also surprised you did your comparison here with the Dali and not with your new Kef R300
@@altabriziyehya4735 i cant find anything better than 9150 in its price class. Even compared to this $4000 amp, the onkyo seems good enough more forgiving and pleasant to me despite it being the inferior amp. I wouldn’t bet on nad. Maybe try audiolab 6000a. If u can get Schiit aegir that is the best one you can get. Use 9150 as preamp. I used Dali because it is much more revealing than kef and sounds clearer in sound demos.
@@mykeldg Rubicon 2 needs more whatt, you Can find a better AMP than the. Onkyo 9150. Rotel ra14, Marantz 7000N, advance Paris A7, maybe audiolab 6000A...
Различия минимальные, по крайней мере по ютубу. Никак не на шестикратную разницу в цене. Мне кажется у Онки в нижней середине более легковесный звук, у Роксан более плотный/темный.
@@mykeldg oke i will buy and try it out... im really curious to know how good that amp compare to the others.... 🤔🤘 Ok i'll let you know as soon as the amp arrive, thank you mykeldg... 🙏😉
@@adjiw8408 hi thanks for the update! did you use the same dac to compare the amps? what amp did you end up liking a lot? can you rank the amp you have tried from best to worst? thanks!
Good call because it is in "Direct" mode bypassing the EQ section. Had the EQ been engaged it would have blow the other two away for most people. Good ear.
Is not even close. Roksan Blak without a doubt. It has that dynamic Roksan house sound. I had a Caspian M Series-1 before and it lit up the music. It isn't bright at all, Roksan simply presents the music in a more exciting manner, it draws you into the music to engage you.
At A$7.5K, it is overpriced. But, based on the UK price, I don't think there are that many other options to pick from. Hegel is more expensive, even the H190 costs more. The only price/specs-comparable option that I could come up with is the Musical Fidelity M6si, is actually cheaper and has more power at 220 wpc. But, I don't think it sounds better than the Roksan Blak.
There is a amp for $3400 Australian Kinky studio exm1 Saving as we speak Amazing reviews for a mid priced Amp with the high end sound. Watch this space ….
Honestly, I don't think the Roksan Black can justify being 10 times more expensive than the Onkyo. It may be 1% better, but for me listening to this comparison with a headphone (AKG K702), it is in my humble opinion the Japanese one that seems better defined.
Hello, Monitor Audio 300 Gold 5G or Dali Rubicon 8 or KEF Reference 3 speakers, which one would you choose and why? Also between Dali Rubicon 2 and KEF Reference 1 speakers? Can this Roksan Blak Integrated amplifier power either of these speakers? Thanks.
Hi those are excellent choices but I haven't heard the Gold & Kef Reference so its hard to say especially without knowing your personal tastes. For me personally I prefer Dali after trying many brands. If it is any indication, this Publication made a shootout between Rubicon 2, MA Gold, B&W 705, ATC SCM11 and Dynaudio X18 and the Dali Rubicon 2 won. here is the URL you might wan to translate it to English using chrome browser : www.alpha-audio.nl/review/multitest-monitor-luidsprekers-1400-2200-euro/
You might also want to add Dynaudio Confidence or Contour in your list since you seem to have massive budget. I would prefer Both DYN & Dali over Monitor Audio & Kef. But that is my personal preference.
AMATEUR TESTING - COMPETITION RIGGED!! This amateur comparing has the Onkyo in "Direct" mode, bypassing the internal EQ section altogether. This is a COMPLETE CHEAT since the other amps are using their full built in EQ section. THIS is why the Onkyo sounds FLAT. I hate these shootouts when they are done by amateurs like this.
Heck, the Roksan is head and shoulders above the Onkyo. The Onkyo sounds like someone has covered the speakers with a bath towel. It is to be expected given the price difference.
Bass Control: Roksan 0:00, Onkyo 1:12
Rock: Roksan 2:08, Onkyo 3:08
Bass Punch: Roksan 4:06, Onkyo 5:20
Transients: Roksan 6:51, Onkyo 7:29
Acoustic: Roksan 8:16, Onkyo 9:20
Super video. I like Dali and your channel. Greetings from Poland!
Your daughter prefers the Roksan Dali combo, she knows what sounds best here.
Quick update. After watching your video, I realized how much I missed that Roksan sound after my Caspian M Series-1, so I went out and bought one. LOL. The Roksan house sound is just addictive, it is dynamic, punchy and yet lush and sweet. In my opinion, it has the best of both worlds in the sense that it is a highly exciting amp without sounding bright. You can enjoy an EDM track as much as when you are chilling out to some female jazz vocals like Diana Krall for example. Some say the Roksan puts a rosy tint on the music especially jazz vocals almost with a certain Class A characteristic if you will to an extent. It may not be the most neutral amp out there, if that is what you are after you will need to look elsewhere, but it sure makes your music more enjoyable, at least to my ears.
The Blak is one of the best integrated amps I have heard with the Dali Rubicon. does the Caspian sound sharp in the highs? or is it smooth? this is one area the blak can sometimes have some tendency. That said, yes, very musical amp -- looks cool too!
@@mykeldg Sharp in the highs? Not really. When I auditioned the Caspian M Series-1 at the time, I heard it with a pair of Quad 11L or 12L. The guy played Diana Krall's "S'Wonderful" for me. It was just sweet and with a slight rosy tint. I was pretty much sold immediately. It is also punchy and dynamic. The thing about the Caspian is don't overdo it with the volume. If you listen to your music loud, the 85W is not enough. I had a pair of Tannoy Sensys DC2 back then and I did clip the Caspian a few times. But, if you hook it up to a nice pair of standmount such as the Quad 12L, listen to some female vocals, as long as you listen to it within its limits, it is a very enjoyable experience. Just pour yourself a drink and chill. I had the Marantz PM 7002 already which was a great amp for the money, somehow I still went for the Caspian M Series-1.
The Blak is similar, but perhaps even smoother with more composure. Having said that, while it is much more powerful than the Caspian, it only has 150W into 8 ohms and 230W into 4 ohms. To be objective, at that price point, you could also audition the Musical Fidelity M6si and it has 70W more at 220W into 8 ohms. The thing is it only has 1 x USB input when it comes to digital inputs. For my next upgrade, I would definitely take a look at the M8xi. 550W into 8 ohms and has all the digital inputs you need.
@@Rascallucci interesting, I found the blak very lush indeed and has a lot of drive, forward in the midrange as well as having a bit of bite at the top. I didn't have room treatments back then so that is probably one of the cause. Which one do you prefer between MF and Roksan? Only one thing wished it had was tone controls
@@mykeldg Yes, lush is the word and the midrange is a little forward. It is the kind of sound that is easy to like although one could argue it is not the most neutral or may be a little coloured. Between Roksan and MF, I think Roksan up to a certain level until you need more power. MF is definitely not quite as lush, plus everything is forward. I would say it depends on your speakers. If you run a pair of Dynaudio Evoke 50 for example with a 4 ohm load dropping down to 3 ohm, at 87 dB sensitivity and a true 3-way, not saying the Blak can't drive it, but it certainly doesn't hurt to give it more juice. I suppose I will find out soon enough as I am planning to get a pair myself. LOL. The thing about MF is its specs vs price point ratio is through the roof. Can you name another amplifier brand that gives an even bigger bang for the buck? I can't. Having said that, I wouldn't consider MF as high end if indeed you are just about to cross into that threshold. For true high end, if you like the Roksan house sound, I think you will like the Gryphon Diablo 300. It might look weird, but its sound is something else. It is punchy and meaty.
@@mykeldg This is the M6si500 driving a pair of PMC. Not too shabby right? th-cam.com/video/LdqWbUiOwfc/w-d-xo.html
Wow I think your videos are the best in this medium: many many thanks. And here what I see is that the diference is almost imperceptible, in fact there are harmonics where Onkyo I think it looks better despite the difference with Roksan of almost 10 times the price in the US.
thanks! yes I find it hard to find a modestly priced replacement for the Onkyo 9150 since I have a small room. With the levels i am listening at, it doesn't sound bad beside more expensive amps. And yes it does have more brilliance & sparkle and also bass extension which is a bit more fun than other purist amps.
Thank you very much for aswering. I am a superfan of these things, every day I am thinking about how to build a system with guaranteed high performance and I am reviewing everything online: from speakers, amplifiers, preamps, dacs, anyway. I have some very good theories I belive in my way of seeing systems from $1000 to $5000 dollars. And your videos have helped me a lot to verify those ideas that I have because it seems that we are practically in the same sector in price and quality. Finally I would like to give you some suggestions if you allow me: I have seen reviews of the keces E40 integrated amplifier and I think that you could get all the possible juice in addition to the excelent reviews that it has seems to be a killer and another very interesting product would be Polk L100 I think it breaks it. Do you think that one day there would be a possibility that you would give us that demo sound? - Regards.
This is a good video to prove what kind a problem a novice audiophile faces when he has bought Onkyo 9150 and is looking for something even better. I have a 9150 for 3 years and have not found a significantly better amplifier even for 3000. More powerful yes, but not better sounding :)
this is true! great value product all around. i found great sounding alternatives with class A amps BTW you might want to explore that.
@@mykeldg yes i would be interested because my other amplifiers are all from 76-81 and don't keep their power consumption running every day :)
hahaha, can't help laughing out when I watch your girl dancing and singing with the Roksan. She's a gienius for stage performance! Did she learn it from watching music radio? A lot of moves are very professional! My daughter is 10 years old. So I really enjoy watching little girls letting themselves go just like my daughter.
By the way, I do enjoy your comparison videos. Onkyo 9150 is certainly a valuable buy though Roksan sounds certainly more relaxed and easy in driving out the high and lows. Given that the used amp market priced Marantz pm5005 almost half or a third of the Onkyo 9150 at least hear in China, I would say the Marantz is also a nice bang in the bucks if I remember clearly the subtle difference between it and Onkyo in your other video.
Witaj przyjacielu bardzo ciekawy kanał ! Roksan dla mnie lepszy w: bass control i male vocals , pozostałe kategorie porównywalne ( lepszy trochę Roksan ). Konkluzja : cenowo różnica duża , ale w kategoriach wrażeń słuchowych nieadekwatna do ceny . P.s. bardzo ciekawy ten zespół Jing Chi , lubie jazz rock ( machavishnu orchestra ) pozdrowienia z Polski
If I had to choose an amp, it would be the Roksan. Better dynamics and harmonics in the treble. Mid-range is also very good. Depending on how important dynamics are to you and the type of music you listen to, the Onkyo rates at around 70% of the sound quality of the Roksan, which is a fantastic result, given the price difference. Better synergy between the Roksan/cables and the speaker than the Onkyo. A different combination could reduce the difference further. A valve buffer on the Onkyo after the RCA outputs ( google, FX audio), would also close the gap. Thank you for posting, as always.
spot on impressions, thank you
The Onkyo has a more balanced sound and due to the current It handles It can sound this good, practically with any speaker, also in cost quality it is more convenient than the Roksan ! Onkyo 👌
Onkyo 9150 definitely very good value for money. It has 600VA giant transformer and 2 x oversized caps. I cant find any other brand that has these components below $1000. Even Cambridge CXA81 & Audiolab 8300a has only less than 250-300va transformer.
The Onkyo in the proper setting would have blown the other two away. He cheated.
I have the Onkyo A9150, I got it on sale 2 yrs ago for $350 ,I believe now it's $499 I don't have any complaints about it anyways I'm not spending $3000-$4000 for a Integrated amp
Its a great amp for the money. Im currently even driving $3500 speakers( special 40) with it with no problems.
@@mykeldg : That's. Amazing I'm using Klipsch RP600's and at times I will use my Klipsch KG'4S
With some music I prefer the onkyo , is more musical but the roksan is more dynamic , faster , is difficult
For me the Roksan sounds more clear and dynamic, what supports much better the sound character of the Dalis.
it really is
Because he cheated and sabotaged the Onkyo.
Onkyo sounds like 300b single edit amplifier...i like it, very interesting...
Bonjour, merci ☺️
Just came here from the other comparison with the Ragnarok. Again this is pretty close, much closer than it has any right to be for an amp that costs £280 (Onkyo) vs £2800 for the Roksan here in the UK. I've listened several times and the Onkyo can do most of the things the Roksan can for one tenth of the price: detail, sweet mid range, deep bass, sound stage and imaging are harder to judge over headphones but the budget Onkyo has me pretty interested. The sound seems to have more soul than other budget but well-reviewed amps I tried like the Audiolab 6000A and the Rotel a11 Tribute as well.
One question: is it a bit big and ugly in the flesh?
onkyo one love )
Value for Money FTW!
I‘m using Dali Rubicon 5s with Yamaha R-N602. I‘m wondering, if the Rocksan could be a significant upgrade for my Daliis. The Yamaha performs similar to the Roksan, but sometimes I miss deep bass and I wish I could not only hear the bass, but also feel it. 😃
Hard to say as i only have few experience with amps so far. Regarding deeper bass, Not sure but to me the onkyo 30w has deeper bass than the roksans. I think higher end amps will give you more control on the bass which dali already excel at. That said roksan gives more dynamics and plenty of air between instruments, blacker background. Vocals are also more solid. But i have to say i prefer the looser deeper bass on the onkyo. Other amps suggested for dali are nad, denon rega hegel and also yamaha as 1200 or 2200.
@@mykeldg Thanks! I like your channel!
I tried to buy Onkyo after listening comparison seems production is stopped I cant find 9110
Yeah....check used market....I got mine for $ 225.00 on ebay...
@@galessi1226 thanks I am in India and here we don't have that vast used market for HiFi.
Secondly learned Denon and Marantz are heavily marketing through TH-camrs and e-commerce sites and very few dealer had Onkyo.
Nice test. Thanks.
Test sabotaged the Onkyo.
So hard to judge from TH-cam, can you please let us know your thoughts
its quite an unfair comparison since The Roksan is almost 5x more in price. With the Roksan, it has much better bass control, dynamics, more forward vocals. Soundstage has tons of space between instruments, blacker background, and is more holographic. What is interesting is how high the value for money is on the Onkyo since it doesn't sound bad beside the Roksan despite being much much lower in cost. The Onkyo has more brilliance/sparkle and the tonal balance is more even handed whereas the Roksan is mid-centric, more forward & muscular in comparison.
@@mykeldg 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@mykeldg I have the Marantz 6006 with kef Meta “ . which I bought used and I hate it “ the marantz is so squeaky maybe i got a defective unit so i put back my Onkyo 9150 and it’s better, but like everyone else with this hobby Im wondering if there is better, so am thinking to get the
schiit Aegir for the kefs or the nad 316 bee do you think I can get better Than these with the $800 budget .
Am also surprised you did your comparison here with the Dali and not with your new Kef R300
@@altabriziyehya4735 i cant find anything better than 9150 in its price class. Even compared to this $4000 amp, the onkyo seems good enough more forgiving and pleasant to me despite it being the inferior amp. I wouldn’t bet on nad. Maybe try audiolab 6000a. If u can get Schiit aegir that is the best one you can get. Use 9150 as preamp. I used Dali because it is much more revealing than kef and sounds clearer in sound demos.
@@mykeldg Rubicon 2 needs more whatt, you Can find a better AMP than the. Onkyo 9150. Rotel ra14, Marantz 7000N, advance Paris A7, maybe audiolab 6000A...
Roksan Blak дает более четкий и проработанный звук с хорошей атакой, Onkyo более сглаженный
Различия минимальные, по крайней мере по ютубу. Никак не на шестикратную разницу в цене. Мне кажется у Онки в нижней середине более легковесный звук, у Роксан более плотный/темный.
Wow.... Is that really good that onkyo a9150? Im really curious....!?
In a small room yes. I still struggle to find replacement/upgrade from it that woudnt break the bank
@@mykeldg oke i will buy and try it out... im really curious to know how good that amp compare to the others.... 🤔🤘
Ok i'll let you know as soon as the amp arrive, thank you mykeldg... 🙏😉
@@adjiw8408 hi thanks for the update! did you use the same dac to compare the amps? what amp did you end up liking a lot? can you rank the amp you have tried from best to worst? thanks!
What source device are you using in this video? Are we hearing the internal DACs of the amplifiers?
I was using chord mojo with linear PSU on both and source is deezer lossless streaming. I didnt like internal dac of both amps
Roksan better with Rubicon 2 ! Nice
Yes amazing amp on the rubicons 🙌 best ive heard so far!
Onkyo sound more dynamic clear mids highs not bumped
Good call because it is in "Direct" mode bypassing the EQ section. Had the EQ been engaged it would have blow the other two away for most people. Good ear.
Nice song selection bro, songs list please
Is not even close. Roksan Blak without a doubt. It has that dynamic Roksan house sound. I had a Caspian M Series-1 before and it lit up the music. It isn't bright at all, Roksan simply presents the music in a more exciting manner, it draws you into the music to engage you.
I like the roksan black
Although I wouldn’t buy one
That $7500 Australian
Phhhft ..too much to choose from for that money.
yes. for the money id rather go class A like Sugden,Pass, etc
At A$7.5K, it is overpriced. But, based on the UK price, I don't think there are that many other options to pick from. Hegel is more expensive, even the H190 costs more. The only price/specs-comparable option that I could come up with is the Musical Fidelity M6si, is actually cheaper and has more power at 220 wpc. But, I don't think it sounds better than the Roksan Blak.
There is a amp for $3400 Australian
Kinky studio exm1
Saving as we speak
Amazing reviews for a mid priced
Amp with the high end sound.
Watch this space ….
@@paulmunoz54 Good luck! Will look forward to your review on it.
Honestly, I don't think the Roksan Black can justify being 10 times more expensive than the Onkyo. It may be 1% better, but for me listening to this comparison with a headphone (AKG K702), it is in my humble opinion the Japanese one that seems better defined.
Hello, Monitor Audio 300 Gold 5G or Dali Rubicon 8 or KEF Reference 3 speakers, which one would you choose and why? Also between Dali Rubicon 2 and KEF Reference 1 speakers? Can this Roksan Blak Integrated amplifier power either of these speakers? Thanks.
Hi those are excellent choices but I haven't heard the Gold & Kef Reference so its hard to say especially without knowing your personal tastes. For me personally I prefer Dali after trying many brands. If it is any indication, this Publication made a shootout between Rubicon 2, MA Gold, B&W 705, ATC SCM11 and Dynaudio X18 and the Dali Rubicon 2 won. here is the URL you might wan to translate it to English using chrome browser : www.alpha-audio.nl/review/multitest-monitor-luidsprekers-1400-2200-euro/
You might also want to add Dynaudio Confidence or Contour in your list since you seem to have massive budget. I would prefer Both DYN & Dali over Monitor Audio & Kef. But that is my personal preference.
What an entertainer is she, great
AMATEUR TESTING - COMPETITION RIGGED!! This amateur comparing has the Onkyo in "Direct" mode, bypassing the internal EQ section altogether. This is a COMPLETE CHEAT since the other amps are using their full built in EQ section. THIS is why the Onkyo sounds FLAT. I hate these shootouts when they are done by amateurs like this.
Roksan is better, but the Onkyo is no slouch. Does the Roksan ever get fatigueing to listen to?
How come we can't hear your daughter sound?
Is this fake?
😂 she's not making any sounds; just acting out. this is recorded only using an iphone + binaural mic btw.
Actually you can hear the daughter. For example 8:06 :)
Heck, the Roksan is head and shoulders above the Onkyo. The Onkyo sounds like someone has covered the speakers with a bath towel. It is to be expected given the price difference.
Remove your bias and listen again - unless you have already bought the Roksan and need to justify it.
@@cyphermote6857 I do not own either amplifier. The Onkyo is very good. Maybe I just prefer the presentation of the Roksan.
ROKSAN GANA,PERO TAMBIÉN EN PRECIO Y POR MUCHO
Rolsan top!
Mutch better roksa,it's bright?
Yes roksan is great. Its very lush sounding with full and forward vocals.
The Roksan has a thicker and more effortless sound .
onkyo is dead.
What do you know.