Just got a 91 LSC with 67k miles not too long ago. Was gonna do an oil change later. This video came across my feed, and I thought I figured this stuff out already. However, i would have never turned off the air compressor before jacking it up before watching this. Thanks for saving my ass!
The grille is hinged to make room for the 5 mph bumper. You don't have to remove the antenna. Just lower it. It has a motor for that. The reason you tun off the air suspension is so that the compressor doesn't run and burn up. Good video. Welcome to Mark VII ownership.
Thanks for the vid, I own a beautiful 89 LSC, this is great for introducing more people to this car. However you did omit the Throttle Valve Cable Bushing at the throttle body. Cable runs from throttle body to transmission, the original plastic ones can break, cable disconnects and you can fry a transmission. Can be replaced with a brass one for cheap. Very important.
We had one of these in the family, it was an 84 Standard Mark VII that was special ordered with all the LSC bits except for the body trim (interior, suspension, etc..) and also had the Towing Package which was pretty rare (included a full size spare tire and larger oil cooler, Heavy Duty Battery and a few other goodies) I had it as my car in high school.. The only thing I ever did was lower it by 1.5" (ridiculously EAZY to do with the air suspension, Just had to adjust the Ride limiter sensors (the rear one needed a little bit of modification but the fronts were able to be set without modification) and it looked great and actually felt like it rode nicer.. We ended up selling it around 94/95 to our Neighbor and then when they moved it was gone.. Kinda miss the car but it is probably dead now.. May have been the ONLY Hybrid Regular/LSC in existence (84 didn't have a Bill Class level trim) but you never know as back then if you knew the dealer well you could do stuff like that.. My dad sat down with the production code book and specified every little thing he wanted.
I own a '90 Mark VII LSC SE with 171K miles. I really love it. Virtually all stock, and with the 4-corner air ride still! There's also the Lincoln Mark VII Club Facebook group, and also they have a website too.
That's a sweet ride, and my favorite Lincoln body style -- The 5.0 sounds strong, and there's a plenty of speed/performancew goodies available to make for a killer build. I really like the White-on-White colors of your bad-ass LSC. I would suggest some 2.5-inch, slant-cut, stainless-steel exhaust-pipe tips on there for a classy dress-up. My only Lincoln was a '74 Town Coupe, with a 460 cu.in. mill that was bored .040 over (468 ccu.in.), with roller cam, roller rockers, roller timing set, 750 Holley, Carter Electric Fuel Pump, sparks by Performance Distributor, ported intake and exhaust manifolds, 2.5-inch dual exhaust (Glasspax) , KYB Gas-pressurized shocks all around , Urethane sway-bar bushings. Got 13.2 mpgs on a trip from Phoenix to the Good Guys Car Show in Salem, Oregon. I know you know your shit, Mr. Random, but that LSC doesn't look ANYTHING like a Mustang. But hey, keep up the good work !!
Exactly, this has got to be the worst video ever, maybe because I've owned my Mark 7 since 2004, maybe because it just so much pointing out the obvious.
I always loved the Bill Blass designer series over the LSC. The Bill Blass interiors were so much more beautifully designed with their pillow look and more luxurious trimmings. Not to mention they are so much more rare now which makes them extra special.
Original owner of an ’86 LSC with 76045 original miles. Has spent most of the last 35 years with it’s car cover on and used occasionally. Had a message that the ABS was out about 20 years ago. Problem was the ABS brake accumulator. These are still available online from various sources. Ford Part # E8OY-2C231-B (Before 1987) and E8OY-2C231-A (From 1987) These are filled with a nitrogen gas and the internal rubber bladder can fail. Replaced mine and no further problems. Note: the air suspension only levels when the doors are closed and automatically shuts down about 30 minutes after you leave the vehicle.
That brake accumulator is key. I've replaced them twice on mine over the years. The Teves ABS was a big reason a lot of these cars got junked unfortunately.
I have a burgundy 1989 Mark Vii...love that car. I also have an 1998 Mark VIII ...also awesome. I think these are the bast cars Lincoln made in the last 40 years. well...also the boxy Town car. but after that....they just fucked it up. Bring back a new Mark series Lincoln Sports coupe
Hopefully your ABS system last a long time. Mine went out at around 200k and before that it leaked brake fluid all the time. This was because an o-ring failed on the pressure sensor. I tried to fix it many times after someone else's multiple failed attempts. Back in 2011 I found 1 supplier of the ABS master assembly, but before core return it was around $2500. I converted to 1980s SVO mustang master, and booster, swapped to cobra front brakes (Napa sells the fittings to adapt the Mark's metric lines to the mustangs standard system), and now has 290k and I run much nicer FR500 wheels. Also, do yourself a favor and convert your air suspension to springs, handles better, and the ride is still nice with pretty much no problems. If you want even better handling in the BB Mark, find some sway bars from a retired LSC, or the aftermarket mustang front will fit, but not the rear. By the way I have a 1992 LSC daily driver, 1990 LSC SE project car, and a 1997 Mark VIII LSC, and with all their quirks they are fun, comfortable, addicting cars to drive. The Mark VIII is a better performance car out of the box, but the Mark VII is a slightly better looking car.
@@DocHelliday It's not too bad. Shop around though. I have a feeling with the current economic situation the prices are higher and parts probably a little harder to get. If you don't want to cut and flare the lines, Napa should still offer the adapter fittings for the brake lines. The adapters were in the Balkamp catalog. The original lines are metric bubble flare, and the master is standard inverted flare. I used some premade short lines from the master to an adjustable summit prop block, and converted some more short lines from the block to the car lines. My car now has 343k on it, I drive it every day, and has since been converted to a manual trans. Now I get around 22mpg, brakes are still working flawlessly, and even in the rain, I've never locked up a tire running 275/40/17 on 17x9 wheels
I have a friend who wants to sell me a low mile clean mark 7. But he told me he removed the air suspension and put in a mustang suspension. Is that a good idea? Would it be a good buy for $3,000.? Under 100k miles. He buys old people cars.
Mr. Random. Your vids on this car is making me want to put this car up there on my list of my fav luxury cars, which has greats like the 1st Gen IS300, Acura Integra, BMW E46 M3 and more. This is now my fav Lincoln.
Just in passing -- Many owner/drivers looking for a cheap way to make your rig look lower and wider is to REMOVE that Front License-Plate Holder !! Everything from Caddies to Pickups look WAY better without that ugly-ass flat plate holder in the way. Picture that LSC without that plate-holder on there -- See what I mean !??
I have a 1990 Mark Vii LSC with airbag light flashing code 4. How do i reset the air bag light or can I with a OBD1? I also don’t know if a fuse would resolve it and which one? There is probably one under the hood and dash?? Thanks so much.
5 digit Keypad code is found on sticker attached to trunk lid arm. Enter code to unlock driver followed by 3/4 button to unlock passenger door or 5/6 button to open trunk. Press 7/8 and 9/0 button simultaneously to lock both doors (and arm security?)
They were pricey when they came out back then, and they still in 5k or more depending the conditions... i always wanted one also but with 2 kids wasn't the best buy and now with 6 grandkids neither..lol but i could get me one for my wife and i alone time... meaning it isn't going to be used much...but still I'd get one if the chance appears...
What about putting the code in to unlock the trunk? If you put that car on a rack that lifts it up and the wheel hangs down with the air suspension on it will let the air out of the air springs and then when you set it down your screwd. I bought mine and it had been converted to coil springs and I put the air suspension back on it and holy shit the air suspension is 100 times better that coil springs it's like night and day. I recommend the air suspension how it was meant to be from the factory any day,I still cant believe how good those cars ride how their meant to be from the factory air ride is the way to go.
you forgot about the fuel shutoff reset switch on the right side of the trunk. the system was designed to kill power to the fuel pump if the car was in an accident . it doesn't take much of an impact to trip it
Anything you can do to foxbody mustang you can do to these cars. The headlight housings from 88 to 93 mustang will work on the mark 7.If your air suspension is wasted you can buy a coil springs from strut masters.
Mustang headlights will bolt in, but without modification they WILL NOT WORK. I have already been through this. If you have the time you can dismantle the marks lights, and mustang lights, and make something work between the parts.
Sweet video, I've been interested in the Mark vii but it always kind of looked truck-like, like it's jacked up like an AMC eagle. If the air suspension still works is there any way to adjust it so the default height is a bit lower?
Copy & pasted from a different Mark VII video : I found a Mark VII about an hour ago. And I’m definitely about to buy it but I need to know from the Fox Body guys - it has 200K on the dash... still worth it?
Seriously, your first all-important compiled information items are "how to set the clock," and the cupholders, antennae, and autolamps, and a flexing grill? Is this a joke? What a waste of time.
@@derriklee287 They did. 1984, 85, they offered a BMW turbo diesel, with an auto or 5 speed from the factory. The option dropped because the V8 was much more desirable. Then they offered a version called the GTC built by Roush. It had a 351 with a five speed.
I'm looking at an Mark 7 LSC for a daily driver that can haul down the track too. Does anybody any advise for me? I'd like to stay naturally aspirated. I am posting this comment before watching the video.
There's a pretty good community on thelincolnmarkvii forum. There's forums for everything on the car and a forum for modifying as well. You should check out a t5 conversion :)
Get rid of the 3.27 gears and go for more. Some guys go 4.11 but that seems a little insane. However, easily the most popular upgrade for this car.. next would the be the T5 transmission swap altogether. Not sure if shift kitting this auto is worth it... plus the torque converter is way to soggy. Subframe connectors are also very necessary on this stretched pony body.
Just got a 91 LSC with 67k miles not too long ago. Was gonna do an oil change later. This video came across my feed, and I thought I figured this stuff out already. However, i would have never turned off the air compressor before jacking it up before watching this. Thanks for saving my ass!
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The grille is hinged to make room for the 5 mph bumper. You don't have to remove the antenna. Just lower it. It has a motor for that. The reason you tun off the air suspension is so that the compressor doesn't run and burn up. Good video. Welcome to Mark VII ownership.
Thanks for the vid, I own a beautiful 89 LSC, this is great for introducing more people to this car. However you did omit the Throttle Valve Cable Bushing at the throttle body. Cable runs from throttle body to transmission, the original plastic ones can break, cable disconnects and you can fry a transmission. Can be replaced with a brass one for cheap. Very important.
Absolutely right.. I dodged a fatal bullet here. Must be addressed immediately on these old horses...
Where can i find a new bushing ?
@@carmendistefano2138 just about any auto parts store can get that part or they have it in stock
@@nicevmax Do you know the part no. for the brass bushing and the wire clip. Many thanks.
It’s called tv cable correct ?
Thank you for making my car popular again.
I am becoming a Lincoln fan.
Stock air suspension, awesome!
We had one of these in the family, it was an 84 Standard Mark VII that was special ordered with all the LSC bits except for the body trim (interior, suspension, etc..) and also had the Towing Package which was pretty rare (included a full size spare tire and larger oil cooler, Heavy Duty Battery and a few other goodies) I had it as my car in high school.. The only thing I ever did was lower it by 1.5" (ridiculously EAZY to do with the air suspension, Just had to adjust the Ride limiter sensors (the rear one needed a little bit of modification but the fronts were able to be set without modification) and it looked great and actually felt like it rode nicer.. We ended up selling it around 94/95 to our Neighbor and then when they moved it was gone.. Kinda miss the car but it is probably dead now.. May have been the ONLY Hybrid Regular/LSC in existence (84 didn't have a Bill Class level trim) but you never know as back then if you knew the dealer well you could do stuff like that.. My dad sat down with the production code book and specified every little thing he wanted.
I own a '90 Mark VII LSC SE with 171K miles. I really love it. Virtually all stock, and with the 4-corner air ride still! There's also the Lincoln Mark VII Club Facebook group, and also they have a website too.
Put a gt 40 intake and explore throttle body on it make way more power
When you say explore throttle body on it, what does that mean? I have an 87 lsc
That's a sweet ride, and my favorite Lincoln body style -- The 5.0 sounds strong, and there's a plenty of speed/performancew goodies available to make for a killer build. I really like the White-on-White colors of your bad-ass LSC.
I would suggest some 2.5-inch, slant-cut, stainless-steel exhaust-pipe tips on there for a classy dress-up.
My only Lincoln was a '74 Town Coupe, with a 460 cu.in. mill that was bored .040 over (468 ccu.in.), with roller cam, roller rockers, roller timing set, 750 Holley, Carter Electric Fuel Pump, sparks by Performance Distributor, ported intake and exhaust manifolds, 2.5-inch dual exhaust (Glasspax) , KYB Gas-pressurized shocks all around , Urethane sway-bar bushings.
Got 13.2 mpgs on a trip from Phoenix to the Good Guys Car Show in Salem, Oregon.
I know you know your shit, Mr. Random, but that LSC doesn't look ANYTHING like a Mustang.
But hey, keep up the good work !!
Why remove the antenna if it’s retractable just hit the down button on the dashboard
Exactly, this has got to be the worst video ever, maybe because I've owned my Mark 7 since 2004, maybe because it just so much pointing out the obvious.
I always loved the Bill Blass designer series over the LSC. The Bill Blass interiors were so much more beautifully designed with their pillow look and more luxurious trimmings. Not to mention they are so much more rare now which makes them extra special.
I bought my brother’s 88 LSC in 2003. Loved the car to the moon - but the fucking airbag suspension! Drove me nuts!
Original owner of an ’86 LSC with 76045 original miles. Has spent most of the last 35 years with it’s car cover on and used occasionally. Had a message that the ABS was out about 20 years ago. Problem was the ABS brake accumulator. These are still available online from various sources. Ford Part # E8OY-2C231-B (Before 1987) and E8OY-2C231-A (From 1987) These are filled with a nitrogen gas and the internal rubber bladder can fail. Replaced mine and no further problems. Note: the air suspension only levels when the doors are closed and automatically shuts down about 30 minutes after you leave the vehicle.
That brake accumulator is key. I've replaced them twice on mine over the years. The Teves ABS was a big reason a lot of these cars got junked unfortunately.
I have a burgundy 1989 Mark Vii...love that car. I also have an 1998 Mark VIII ...also awesome. I think these are the bast cars Lincoln made in the last 40 years. well...also the boxy Town car. but after that....they just fucked it up. Bring back a new Mark series Lincoln Sports coupe
Hopefully your ABS system last a long time. Mine went out at around 200k and before that it leaked brake fluid all the time. This was because an o-ring failed on the pressure sensor. I tried to fix it many times after someone else's multiple failed attempts. Back in 2011 I found 1 supplier of the ABS master assembly, but before core return it was around $2500. I converted to 1980s SVO mustang master, and booster, swapped to cobra front brakes (Napa sells the fittings to adapt the Mark's metric lines to the mustangs standard system), and now has 290k and I run much nicer FR500 wheels. Also, do yourself a favor and convert your air suspension to springs, handles better, and the ride is still nice with pretty much no problems. If you want even better handling in the BB Mark, find some sway bars from a retired LSC, or the aftermarket mustang front will fit, but not the rear. By the way I have a 1992 LSC daily driver, 1990 LSC SE project car, and a 1997 Mark VIII LSC, and with all their quirks they are fun, comfortable, addicting cars to drive. The Mark VIII is a better performance car out of the box, but the Mark VII is a slightly better looking car.
How hard was the conversion? I think mine are about to go out. I randomly get the amber and red brake lights
@@DocHelliday It's not too bad. Shop around though. I have a feeling with the current economic situation the prices are higher and parts probably a little harder to get. If you don't want to cut and flare the lines, Napa should still offer the adapter fittings for the brake lines. The adapters were in the Balkamp catalog. The original lines are metric bubble flare, and the master is standard inverted flare. I used some premade short lines from the master to an adjustable summit prop block, and converted some more short lines from the block to the car lines. My car now has 343k on it, I drive it every day, and has since been converted to a manual trans. Now I get around 22mpg, brakes are still working flawlessly, and even in the rain, I've never locked up a tire running 275/40/17 on 17x9 wheels
@@keenanmeyers3935 dang! Goals!!! I definitely wanna convert to manual if the tranny goes out in mine. Are you on the FB Lincoln Mark VII club?
Slowly but surely you’re unleashing the beast within the Mark VII
Love that car! I want one so bad.
@Trev H still for sale?
@Trev H where are you located? year ? bb or lsc?
@Trev H ok perfect thanks man I'll be looking for it tomorrow
Love it! All these quirks...I didn’t want the video to end! 🤗 I gotta keep my eyes out for a cup holder for ya! 👍
I have a friend who wants to sell me a low mile clean mark 7. But he told me he removed the air suspension and put in a mustang suspension. Is that a good idea? Would it be a good buy for $3,000.? Under 100k miles. He buys old people cars.
Walter Mejia if it’s clean and rust from yes. Air suspension is nice but not if you have issues and no clue how to work on it.
Plasticky down market interiors let these really very good cars down now difference in quality from an average Ford model
Mr. Random. Your vids on this car is making me want to put this car up there on my list of my fav luxury cars, which has greats like the 1st Gen IS300, Acura Integra, BMW E46 M3 and more. This is now my fav Lincoln.
Not sure I’d consider an integra luxury, although still a great car
Wow Bill Blass edition! I bet you they got a few other additions of Louis Vuitton would be cool!
Heat works awesome but the cars been garaged most of its life and I'm getting light smoke through the air vents
My 1988 keep cutting off while driving 😢 not sure if it the fuel or ignition
I had a 91 LSC W/O air suspension loved the car.
Outstanding demonstration I bought a new jeep wrangler and I'm lucky the salesman gave me the keys let alone show me the vehicle on delivery
Just seen one on let 1990 for 800 should I buy it? Or what should i look out for if I buy it?
I miss mine so much … had to scour TH-cam when I locked the keys in the trunk once lol
Just in passing -- Many owner/drivers looking for a cheap way to make your rig look lower and wider is to REMOVE that Front License-Plate Holder !! Everything from Caddies to Pickups look WAY better without that ugly-ass flat plate holder in the way.
Picture that LSC without that plate-holder on there -- See what I mean !??
You gotta love that tripminder module , god forbid the air ride goes bad those fox t bird springs will fix you right up
Nice!
I have mine sitting in the garage since 2014, and I want to finally get it out on the road.
Why did you get rid of it???
Bruh you make me want one now.
Got one just like love
This helps out foxbody continental owners too
do you know where the fuel pump relay is ?
Correct Me if I am wrong .. Aren't those Lincolns the ones that automatically lowered themselves at 55 mph. ?
Grampa Smurf no, that's the Mark viii 2nd gen 97-98.
@@dw8730 Thank you !
The 1993 thru 1996 gen 1 mark VIII lowered at speed as well as the 1997 and 1998 gen 2s.
@@mikefordguy3364 I think they lower at WOT too if I'm correct. I'm more of a Mark VII guy.
I have a 1990 Mark Vii LSC with airbag light flashing code 4. How do i reset the air bag light or can I with a OBD1? I also don’t know if a fuse would resolve it and which one? There is probably one under the hood and dash?? Thanks so much.
9:10 "I wish this information was all compiled and out there" ... like in the Owners Manuel? o_0
the chances of a 20 something PLUS year old car to still come with the owners manual is very low
Well considering you have acouple other really cool cars this purchase can be forgiven.....I just don't like it is all but it's your money!
I have one too! It’s so hard to work on it without knowing much
5 digit Keypad code is found on sticker attached to trunk lid arm. Enter code to unlock driver followed by 3/4 button to unlock passenger door or 5/6 button to open trunk. Press 7/8 and 9/0 button simultaneously to lock both doors (and arm security?)
They were pricey when they came out back then, and they still in 5k or more depending the conditions... i always wanted one also but with 2 kids wasn't the best buy and now with 6 grandkids neither..lol but i could get me one for my wife and i alone time... meaning it isn't going to be used much...but still I'd get one if the chance appears...
What about putting the code in to unlock the trunk? If you put that car on a rack that lifts it up and the wheel hangs down with the air suspension on it will let the air out of the air springs and then when you set it down your screwd. I bought mine and it had been converted to coil springs and I put the air suspension back on it and holy shit the air suspension is 100 times better that coil springs it's like night and day. I recommend the air suspension how it was meant to be from the factory any day,I still cant believe how good those cars ride how their meant to be from the factory air ride is the way to go.
Cables connected to tires? WTF?
The air suspension sucked
Thinking about getting one. Overall are they hard to work on or should i go with a 1995 thunderbird with the 4.6 in 40th anniversary trim ?
Don't remove your radio antenna! Just turn off your radio at car washes! How can you give bad advice like that, yet call yourself an expert?
I broke my phone with the pulldown feature on the trunk and watch you fingers cause that hurts too lol
you forgot about the fuel shutoff reset switch on the right side of the trunk. the system was designed to kill power to the fuel pump if the car was in an accident . it doesn't take much of an impact to trip it
Not an LSC. Bummer.
I have a very clean 86 lsc is silver for sale if anyone is looking for one in michigan. zero rust and beautiful interior. lots and lots of upgrades.
Still own this car?
Great video on a very unknown car. Thanks brother, be well
This was a james bond car!.. he drove one of this in the movie licence to kill.
Can you put spokes on a 2004 p71
So without the Mass Airflow sensor is there another way the car can regulate the airmass info?
I loved my 85 mark
Real lurxry
I don't have a lincoln, but very interesting video nonetheless
Alot of nice technology for an early 90's car.
I own 2 Super Coupe T Birds but dammit I want one of these LSC's!!!
Anything you can do to foxbody mustang you can do to these cars. The headlight housings from 88 to 93 mustang will work on the mark 7.If your air suspension is wasted you can buy a coil springs from strut masters.
Mustang headlights will bolt in, but without modification they WILL NOT WORK. I have already been through this. If you have the time you can dismantle the marks lights, and mustang lights, and make something work between the parts.
That's a beautiful Hot Rod Lincoln
Is it reliable 🚗??
Is it easy to maintenance
Sweet video, I've been interested in the Mark vii but it always kind of looked truck-like, like it's jacked up like an AMC eagle. If the air suspension still works is there any way to adjust it so the default height is a bit lower?
Trust me you don't want it lower... my bags went and it looked terrible. But to answer your question, no
where is the chassis number on a mark 7?
awesome job baby! love watching you do your passion!
We are dos not have Lincoln mark in KSA ☹️.
Copy & pasted from a different Mark VII video : I found a Mark VII about an hour ago. And I’m definitely about to buy it but I need to know from the Fox Body guys - it has 200K on the dash... still worth it?
200k is way too much man
The Mark VII Club, on line and Facebook. Tons of info on these cars.
Mercury Engine please connect me to a group am having trouble finding a part and need help
Is there a "kit" to replace the air suspension with conventional struts and springs?
yup..the entire thing costs around $300ish...Autozone has it
I have a 1993 Lincoln mark 8
Does that speedometer go past 85 mph cause mine didn't
1990 and newer Mark VIIs had a 120 mph speedometer
...…SWEET.GOOD....SHOW
Can you tell me where the hazard lights are?😂😂😂😅
You probably found them by now but they are in front of the steering wheel
Cupholders are worst feature.. I bought the parts to fix mine... and took them right back out. Stick to thermos or bottles in this ride.
Seriously, your first all-important compiled information items are "how to set the clock," and the cupholders, antennae, and autolamps, and a flexing grill? Is this a joke? What a waste of time.
Very Good
i just got mine. dealing with airbags AGAIN! lol
I feel you, all four air suspension in mine collapsed.
@@joeneri150 yah, i just ordered the full kit from strutmasters
these cars had an option for an inline 6 diesel
I doubt it bud.
@@derriklee287 They did. 1984, 85, they offered a BMW turbo diesel, with an auto or 5 speed from the factory. The option dropped because the V8 was much more desirable. Then they offered a version called the GTC built by Roush. It had a 351 with a five speed.
Circle D no overdrive yes😝
Not trying to talk shit but there might A good reason no one has attempted to put information out there on your car
Today’s generation probably don’t know what buttons are.
I think you just made this video to show off your car more LOL
I'm looking at an Mark 7 LSC for a daily driver that can haul down the track too. Does anybody any advise for me? I'd like to stay naturally aspirated. I am posting this comment before watching the video.
There's a pretty good community on thelincolnmarkvii forum. There's forums for everything on the car and a forum for modifying as well. You should check out a t5 conversion :)
@@rileywebb4178 thanks man. I actually have a T5 sitting around.
Get rid of the 3.27 gears and go for more. Some guys go 4.11 but that seems a little insane. However, easily the most popular upgrade for this car.. next would the be the T5 transmission swap altogether. Not sure if shift kitting this auto is worth it... plus the torque converter is way to soggy. Subframe connectors are also very necessary on this stretched pony body.