[Proxy Play] Maelstrom vs Arkhite | Nov 24, 2022

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  • @filipokec2121
    @filipokec2121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There is some confusion going around weather the order gives power for each copy of itself, or each OTHER copy of itself in the order zone. I’m looking in to what the actual translation is and once i find it i will update it here.

    • @qudanyun
      @qudanyun ปีที่แล้ว

      play dd to figure out

  • @Unruined0
    @Unruined0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Flagburg: he does exactly what I do!
    Maelstrom: But.....worse :(

  • @MigsUdon
    @MigsUdon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gotta say, Kaiju waifu looking really fun, and pretty consistent too! I'm curious to see how she matches up against B heroes

    • @l3goshi
      @l3goshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      From my matches in cfa, arkite is definitely much more better than heroes, her pros is her support is pretty much any generic monster units unlike heroes. Another is she can recycle her units and have less problems with deck out while still trimming the deck. lastly The power she gives to her units is really good and prevents her attacks to be shutdown by a single dmg trigger of an opponent.

  • @frost1262
    @frost1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now I’m curious to see when glory malestrom is gonna come out. It’s gonna happen most likely.

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably set 16 or something lol

  • @basilmathai828
    @basilmathai828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think around 32:45, the grade 1 monster can't put back the pg to the bottom of the deck

    • @Stratos5707
      @Stratos5707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes he can. The effect is only restricted to only non trigger units.

    • @basilmathai828
      @basilmathai828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Stratos5707 I see where I got confused #ReadingIsHard

  • @scarlightemperor3410
    @scarlightemperor3410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We need to do a family battle.
    Maelstrom vs Flagburg.

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, however much much later lol

  • @Sol-Kage
    @Sol-Kage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Other than having a really weak VG column, Monsters seem pretty strong

  • @Bensvideos124
    @Bensvideos124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't think you read the first effect of maelstrom correctly for game 2, the cb1 to restand is only if your opponents vg is g3 or greater. So the restand wouldn't activate since alkite was only at grade 2.

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct! #ReadingIsHard
      Welp he isn’t as good as we thought lol

  • @treseph_
    @treseph_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, also great music choice for the Kaijuu deck. Been bopping my head whenever it's Filip's turn lol

  • @neloverg3774
    @neloverg3774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So for the monster deck, rather than bolbamine I've found limited success with the other G1 CC monster. The one that CCs on hit, why? It's a constant and it can be a 20K booster.
    Also, theorycrafting ideas you could run the promo G3 VG since he's also a monster, and the G2 Eva research with Arkhite. Arkhite searches herself, and eldo for an alt ride, eldo bounces back the orders for bind ability. It's not a great combination and requires setup but it's janky fun

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I also like bolba for the SC so i can more consistently SB2 and draw

  • @dabiblues2711
    @dabiblues2711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If irt helps iirc it was stated knh thursday stream that an tear dragon is going to be revealed on the 28th as part of the COTD reveal

  • @dracowing6765
    @dracowing6765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would inlet pulse be able to go I to soul to draw a card if called by maelstroms skill since it has to go back into soul anyway?

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both are end of turn abilities so you chose which ability to activate first

    • @dracowing6765
      @dracowing6765 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok thank you

  • @whereideasgotodie2267
    @whereideasgotodie2267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arkhite is so cool. I really like the idea of uniting those generic monster cards into a pretty strong deck while also incorporating Eva support. It was cool seeing other monsters like Bolbamine and the gremlin this game as well
    Maelstrom on the other hand, the really glaring issue is the order for me. Aqua Force wants attackers so the order can really brick you in the early turns as seen in game 1 but you want to run it since the rideline searches for it. Would you consider a build that doesn't run it in the future?

  • @ABF4269
    @ABF4269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So its Thegrea and Luquire next video, but when?

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uhhhhh no
      If anything definitely Thegria but wrong DS deck lol

  • @63xMortis
    @63xMortis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me paying dear days with 2x vp luck sack and always being right about the crits

  • @Stratos5707
    @Stratos5707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question, is the kaiju deck better with draws or fronts ?

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to say, at first i liked the draw’s because of the strange hand management, but right now I prefer the fronts for extra power as well as the 20k shield

  • @Curveball543
    @Curveball543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why isn't alex running the Tear Dragon crit as his none effect crit

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because he probably forgot lol

  • @chrisxcrozz5186
    @chrisxcrozz5186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how does alex feel while filip just there playing his own solitaire against him, just sitting there. Menacingly.

  • @gadgetmike215
    @gadgetmike215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does Maelstorm need Inlet?

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Need it not necessarily
      Is it a good option because it is a Tear Dragon and it does give soul and draw and can be called by Maelstrom from soul, yes he is

  • @anondri4087
    @anondri4087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a quick game 1

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Black magic has betrayed him in Game 1 lol

  • @sephiram1475
    @sephiram1475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, just like the other comments said, maelsteom skill to give restand eff only works if your opp is g3
    Maelstrom is a cheaper flagburg, with the pro of doesn't have to use the skill if doesn't hit, unlike flagburg that you will use all the skill. Mael can also discard inlet early cause of the order. The power +5k per set order also strong enough in my opinion
    Surprisingly, this deck is strong enough to fight control deck, but weak against deck that can rush like tamayura and rorowa
    Also, unpopular opinion, but I do think that Maelstrom is already better than Flagburg

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So we also found out that the order gives power for every other order in the order zone of it, so the first one you play will give 0 power…

    • @ciphercode1075
      @ciphercode1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopDeckHeroes Are we sure on that? As I saw another translation that said it gave 5k for each copy of the order in the order zone not "each other" copy.

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will do some digging

    • @sephiram1475
      @sephiram1475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopDeckHeroes so....there are 2 different translations
      1 that said every judgment maelstrom, and every other judgement maelstron
      I would say the 1st one is the correct one, cause if the latter is the case, the eff is very bad 🥲

  • @remillion2203
    @remillion2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aqua force without early game g2 re-stand feel a bit disappointed.

    • @aoimaru2022
      @aoimaru2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nerfed Tidal Assault :/

    • @ciphercode1075
      @ciphercode1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think there are any D Series decks that can multi-attack on G2 turn.

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rorowa

  • @thescreamingcage5575
    @thescreamingcage5575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maelstrom D gamplay feels well distributed, but it gives me this feeling that it doesn’t have a strong finisher, unlike flagburg

    • @ciphercode1075
      @ciphercode1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fits with how Maelstrom has always been. He always needed Glory to be the finisher while his original was the grinder.

  • @jamesskaggs5016
    @jamesskaggs5016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw the video and had to watch it and yes I think dear days is following Filip as you should just atk maybe in your next proxy fight give yourself one turn where you atk vanilla and see if you trig sack hehe. For maelstrom this is the beginning and we will see the rest of his support but I do like what he is capable of currently
    . Love the video guys and can't wait to built arhkite

    • @halohawkxx
      @halohawkxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We'll probably see Maelstrom get his Glory (or another form) on Set 9 or 10 lol

    • @jamesskaggs5016
      @jamesskaggs5016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@halohawkxx oh absolutely I'm confident set 9 will help more support and support the decks from the next season of willdress and who knows maybe more new mechanics or plays that will add more spice lol

    • @halohawkxx
      @halohawkxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesskaggs5016 sounds about right haha. I'm gonna build Monster Waifu though, max rarity!

    • @jamesskaggs5016
      @jamesskaggs5016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@halohawkxx right there with yeah mate but rarity only if I pull it otherwise I'm good hehe

    • @halohawkxx
      @halohawkxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesskaggs5016 I'm going on the case split haha

  • @jerryb7148
    @jerryb7148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think running the secondel in the monster is not the way since you already returning stuff with the vg ability anyway and the extra cards put into the deck by secondel is diluting the deck making harder to check triggers also i personaly running tectane and the 2 copy g2 eva order to thin out more if you hit an order and the bind come in handy in some matches
    nice game tough but the black magic is not in the maelstrom player this time around probably cursed by flagburg lol

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It help’s putting PGs back and person rides as well as if you see your good monsters out of deck already to put some back so you can get the most out of calling it during battle phase

  • @l3goshi
    @l3goshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really hate how arkite stuff couldve been used for heroes, what i dont like about bushi currently is they keep pumping out ridelines and forget supporting the previous ones, look at brandt gate for example set06,7,and 8 all have different ridelines and only arkhite actually looks playable. Heroes and welstra r so....meh, what i like about arkhite is atleast she can work with any generic monster cards, unlike welstra and heroes

  • @Yukon.72
    @Yukon.72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mael seems so weak, yes it can dish out 5 attacks with easy, but they all at base power, so 1-2 def triggers and they stop dead

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like me in this video, if you see def triggers lol
      But if you get the right set up you can do six attacks, still power problem but persona riding helps

    • @kodokutamashi1569
      @kodokutamashi1569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Needs to wait for more support in the set. Like hell they would make Mael THAT weak. He will never reach Flagburg level, but he shouldn't be this weak.

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is apparently getting a support G3 in a couple of days

    • @Yukon.72
      @Yukon.72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopDeckHeroes what also made me giggle, is that there so many ways to get inlet on table... but he never attacked even once (i think) and only used to draw card lol

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Util inlet can go to soul you have other cards to attack with, however if he saw wheel assault more he could swap inlet to the front to swing with

  • @garainwindblade7128
    @garainwindblade7128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you guys but I'm about 90% sure Filip actually cheated in 3rd game unintentionally maybe but he dropped the grade 3 from deck not from his hand and got both the grade 2 and 3 first turn plus a grade 3 to the drop

    • @garainwindblade7128
      @garainwindblade7128 ปีที่แล้ว

      @23:00

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you need to reread the order and watch the video again
      Picked the G3 and G2 with the order, g3 to hand, g2 to drop
      Then I decided to do it the other way around, G3 to drop, G2 to hand
      Edit: saw it now, just went to fast lol

    • @garainwindblade7128
      @garainwindblade7128 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopDeckHeroes I wasn't trying to be a ass if you thought that man , I figured unintentionally mistakes happened , still love the content and much love still , absolutely loved seeing yall back together in irl ❤️ anyways keep it up 👍👍

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it came of strange when i didn’t see what you meant, but when i noticed it all made sense so your all good don’t worry about it

  • @memento_contract
    @memento_contract 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #ReadingIsHard Judgement maelstrom give 5k for each OTHER copy in order zone. but I feel like it won't matter much

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Time stamp?
      Edit: you are correct, so it’s technically worse then we thought, or to say not as good

    • @Yukon.72
      @Yukon.72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TopDeckHeroes from same turn, he can't stand Algos, because Maelstrom require opponent have g3 vg for that to work.

    • @ciphercode1075
      @ciphercode1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure? I saw another translation that said otherwise.

    • @memento_contract
      @memento_contract 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ciphercode1075 can confirm need g3 opponent to restand

    • @ciphercode1075
      @ciphercode1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@memento_contract I mean the order only counting other copies and not itself. Since I only saw 1 translation that said it gives power for each other order while 2 other translations had it as each order.
      This can be significant as it means the order can give a power boost a turn earlier and has a higher ceiling for power.

  • @huntsolo2411
    @huntsolo2411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the dude on the right pilot maelstrom? Other guy just doesn't seem like he's into it..

    • @TopDeckHeroes
      @TopDeckHeroes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude…chil

    • @EKo_CVZ
      @EKo_CVZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine having a psychology degree and spending your time on a TCG YT Channel smh my head... Also "Can he pilot it?" bro the deck got announced 2 hours prior??

  • @justfurniture6620
    @justfurniture6620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maelstrom is such lazy design, it's just Flagburg without the guard restrict and retiring one less RG, here was hoping he'd get multiattacks turn 2, but nope, not even that

    • @ciphercode1075
      @ciphercode1075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should of at least went with the V Series Maelstrom to better differentiate them like they did with PBO.