I found your channel by accident and it is beautiful. I agree with you in many points. I also came to the conclusion that it is very difficult to be absolutely private (Intel ME off, Firewall, all software include drivers must be free and open - its difficult but most important for privacy). I completely agree with you that we need to look for a middle ground to be able to work comfortably at the computer. Great picture, cool font in this video. I really like your voice in the video, English is not my native language, but I understand you perfectly, and TH-cam subtitles are generated almost without errors. I have subscribed and I'm waiting for new videos. P.S. Yubikey is good thing, I want it too) Also Orange Pi, i think its more private than Raspberry)
I just wish I could sit down and have a conversation with you. Everything you’re saying is what I’ve been thinking about and feeling forever. I don’t know how I found this channel but it is one of the best that I have came across in the last year. That’s for sure! Thank you for everything you’re doing.
In my case I use Windows and Linux most of the time for programming, managing servers and gaming, but recently I bought a Macbook air just because I want to test some apps in IOs . I Don't think there is one better than others, I enjoy Linux more because I learned a lot back when I started into programming. At the end of the day, they are accomplish the same goal for me, a tool for accomplish my work and leisure
Great video! Would love a video about the security and linux/unix compatibility of macOS with the new M1 chip. I haven’t seen anything about it in youtube and I need a new daily driver (which I would occasionally use as a linux client via ssh)
Personally, I would never trust any company with my privacy, especially not Apple, because at the end of the day, a company's main goal is to make a profit, not ensure your well-being. No matter how much they claim to care about the privacy of their users, making money is still their first priority and they will go to any lengths for it. That's just the reality of capitalism. Community driven FOSS projects on the other hand, are made by the people for the people, out of passion. Therefore, I wholehartedly believe GNU/Linux is the superior choice. I use Arch btw ;) and I can safely say, my setup has become more efficient and convenient for me to use than anything else out there.
Thanks for sharing! I agree Linux is an appealing option (more from a privacy standpoint than a security one though)... unfortunately my use cases don't work entirely on Linux.
I had to use mac at work and although some Linux things work there, I found no advantages over Linux. In Linux you can have all with keyboard, i3 window manager makes very efficient interface especially with multiple monitors. Standard Ubuntu is imo more user-friendly then OSX. You have short cuts, scripts, context menus. you can achieve the same goal in multiple ways. OSX on the other hand gives almost no options other then their. I finally got used to all limitations but the feeling that I'm a slave was always with me. In next job I got my Ubuntu, installed i3, wrote bunch of scripts for automation and was free again
If you don't need macOS (Adobe products for example), Linux is totally the way to go. That being said, macOS is pretty hackable. When experimenting with macOS, did you stumble upon Homebrew? I use shortcuts all the time and do many things using iTerm2 vs the UI. My .zshrc is packed with hacks.
Sir, You‘re the best! Always thought I was smart and precautious, and now I‘m binging on Your videos learning a lot about security and privacy. Please, keep the videos coming...
I too have stuck on Catalina. I also feel like it can, with some tweaking and extra tools, provide a good middle ground between convenience and security. Linux is more secure, but bordering on too inconvenient to me. I am honestly considering a full switch to linux though.
I love your channel ! Thanks for your content ! Regarding this video I'd love to hear what you have to say about Apple M1 Macs. It's probably to early but the Intel problem aren't anymore, obviously the T2 is still here. But it looks like the visualisation with linux is doable... Any thoughts?
MacOS for me is just Linux but smoother and with more apps. Everything works very well and I don't have to configure much anything. Awesome optimization. The only thing I miss are some configurations in file browser (Finder) to make it more useful, navigation buttons on the right, and native support of Android phones.
I absolutely agree with your assessment! I believe the 2015's may have been the last great Apple computers. I have a 2015 27" iMac with Catalina. I love this computer! I have maxed out the ram, and eventually will trade out the fusion drive for a full SSD. My wife has the 21.5" 2015 iMac. I have already had to swap out the HD because it had become so slow (those drives are notorious for that). But, now it runs really well. I also picked up a 2012 Mac Pro cheese grater, and upgraded to a dual CPU 3.3 and 64 GB of ram. I have run windows, Linux, and macOs X on it, but now mostly use Mojave. I have a 15" Tuxedo laptop (designed for Linux) which I have now installed Manjaro kde Plasma. For my purposes, this is a phenomenal OS. I really like it! Thank you so much for your videos!
Thanks for sharing. Btw, have you tried replacing the thermal paste? I replaced the stock thermal paste in my 2015 15-inch MBP with Grizzly Kryonaut and the computer is running cooler resulting in the fans being quiet when idle. Really impressed with the result!
By the way I recently installed Linux Maint! I was surprised about the strong the security is! I ran Zenmap a couple of minutes after the installation, and I only found like three ports opened! As well... I like the security of the sudo users, and the simplicity to download software!
I made this before installing Pihole (DNS) in a raspberry and a SQUID (Proxy Server) which are amazing block trackers and help you to share less information with extenal web servers!
By the way.. I am little bit frustrated. I made an exercise using this page. privacy.net/analyzer. I was frustrated about how even when you are using a VPN, Privacy Bagder and the Mozilla Security configuration that you recommend to us. This website can still read your browser information! 😠! Any hint?
Apple has been very vocal about providing support for Linux on ARM and in MacOS 11, alas only through virtualization. I wonder if they will reveal a BootCamp like feature for Linux operating systems, which would be a fantastic value-add, especially for folks that want to be dialed more on the security/privacy side of the dichotomy you described, having more control over their environment, and having the freedom to use the OS they are most comfortable with on modern hardware.
Thanks for sharing Zean... short story, even though ARM will likely be amazing for performance (and doesn't have Intel ME... although it will likely have some Apple ME instead), thank god for my 2015 MPBs. I am saddened by how Apple has been slowly locking down their hardware.
Sun Knudsen, yes I also use a 2015 MBP, as well as a 2010 5,1 Mac Pro, which have both served me quite well for many many years. I will miss the ability to maintain, modify, and upgrade my apple machines in the not too distant future. It’s already here for those that use newer machines. In an enterprise setting I am looking forward to the features ARM macs will potential bring for DEP/MDM/VPP.
I use Apple gear & macOS for many reasons, some are the same as yours, some are my own. Mostly though, it's just superior to everything else for me in terms of a combination of usability, security, capability and is an integral part of an Apple ecosystem that works beautifully for me with my iPhone & iPad. Plus, I service, build, repair, and restore Apple gear for a living so it's my wheelhouse. I do use Linux regularly mind you, and have off and on since kernel 2.0 (1998-99 ish for anyone old enough to remember). I love Linux, it's just not for me when it comes to daily driving.
Your point is valid from your perspective. But you see, some of us can't really afford a Macbook...So I believe our best option if we don't like Windows 10 is to switch a Linux OS & Also nowadays Linux distributions are also building really nice, modern & convenient UIs & desktop For example: Ubuntu 20.04 (the latest LTS) & Manjaro are some of the best Linux distros I have used in terms of providing a nice & convenient User Interface for normal (beginner) users who would want to switch from Windows to Linux due to some of its MANY problems & those that are new to Linux.
@@sunknudsen I also love to use both Linux and MacOS, but the usecases fits different things for me. I also use FreeBSD, and sometimes OpenBSD and NetBSD. They're also great, and again, have strengths in other places.
Hi Sun, I just found your channel yesterday and I haven't stopped watching your videos. I have already learnt a lot about privacy and security. It would be awesome if you could make a video about how we can use internet banking services as safe as possible. Would you suggest having a dedicated laptop only for internet banking and online transactions? Anyway, keep up the great job that you are doing.
Hey what do you think about Linux DEs ? I think Linux also has a lot of great apps (alternative to the proprietary apps). Moreover ,I would suggest you to use Manjaro XFCE and see if you like it.
Thanks for sharing... I have a bunch of apps that don't work on Linux... that being said, for those with use cases that "fit" Linux, switching is a no-brainer.
Is there any desktop-ready Linux distro that does not require much maintenance and has a cool user interface (I've tried pop_os! and loved it but it died 2 separate times and I lost all my work)
One I have tried recently and liked is Parrot OS. That said, I haven’t experimented enough to recommend it formally from a privacy and security standpoint.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will likely look into the M1 chip in the future. That being said, for now, I am worried about where Apple is heading. Happy to own a 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro running Catalina.
The only reason I, as a nontechie, subscribed to your channel is that you found Confucius, you found the smart middle ground between security and good look and feel. Today I am still too much towards design and great look and feel, but I refuse to move to the desert land that looks like the ancient quick and dirty operating system. Also as I said, I am a nontechie so most of that stuff is way over my head anyway. Thanks for keeping the middle ground!
Thanks for sharing... I agree things are getting more and more polarized. My gut feeling is operating at that middle ground is how we'll get more people to care about privacy.
Great episode and fantastic channel! Just subscribed. Since you mention command line - could you recommend a good source where I could learn as much as possible about command line on MacOS? Commands, scripting, how to control the system from the command line and all that? Ideally relevant to Big Sur. Also, do you have insights re. what the newest Macs offer (or ruin) in terms of security?
She’ll used in macOS is ZSH, something you can find and install and Linux and Win. So you can try to follow a tutorial and that. Also it’s depend what you want to do. Ask me if you have any questions.
Linus(LTT) actually thinks - what seems pretty logic to me - that Apple introduced the T2 chip to finally abandon macOS installs to fight the mackintosh scene. So that in the end macOS only comes preinstalled.
I'm in the same boat. I was a big FreeBSD and Linux guy back in the day (never used Windows consistently for any stretch of time), but at some point I had a change in career and I could no longer devote the same time and effort to tooling around with technology. I didn't wan to abandon % power altogether, though, so macOS struck the right balance for me. I haven't regretted the move once, because I don't feel like I've lost anything (other than money LOL).
The issue with closed software is that even if the company is great now, where will that company be in one or two years? you can't trust it for so many reasons. There can be new people in charge that make some stupid deal and implement shady features that you're not aware of. And if you are dependent on that software, then its not like some random project can simply fork it and throw out all the shady stuff.
Are you recommending upgrading to Big Sur? Is Little Snitch functionality as effective as it is in Catalina, Or do we have apple bypassing users restriction on applications and operating system communication with outgoing and incoming calls home?
Hey Sun, love your videos, I found your channel a couple of days ago, and its really amazing content. It would be amazing if in the future you culd take a look at windows 10 regarding privacy. I'm all for more privacy, but I also game A LOT so switching from windows does not seem like a very good option for me, and im not techy enough to know how to check what info is microsoft storing and sending to their servers from my device.
Thanks for your kind words. Unfortunately, I know very little about Windows so I don't feel comfortable sharing Windows-related content. I'm sure other TH-camrs can fill in the gap.
There's one main reason to use ios over android for me (and that's the reason why I'm gonna switch to apple ecosystem in the near future) and that is the fact that apple making money selling hardware, software and services while Google's main source of income is target ads (basically selling your data to everyone who is willing to pay them). That said pretty much every phone except android phones with custom roms running full foss is spying on you that way or another
Thank you so much! I am a software developer and I am switching to macOS from linux (I also love linux but I use design software and I don't like dual-boot windows for that), I have explored it a little bit and I am absolutely in love with the interface and options already but I have a question: What about the apple id? what are the tradeoffs of using it vs don't? it is sent to apple on the data collected through http too? how can this affect privacy? Your channel is amazing!
You mentioned a video on used Macs. It'd be great. I've always wanted to try MacOS, but never had the opportunity (when I was a teenager I even tried "to Hackintosh"). Linux is also an option, but I don't feel it as smooth, polish and with a good UX as Windows, my current OS. I also used it, though, with my raspberry pi. Any thoughts?
Hey Edward, I've been backlogged so I didn't get to the episode on buying used Macs. It's still in the back on my mind though. I agree macOS tends to be (OK let's be honest... macOS is significantly) slicker than Linux. That being said, if your use case works on Linux, there are distributions that are actually quite pleasant to use.
I switched myself and some of my staff to ubuntu. I was using Windows before, and many things frustrated me (printing/ wifi issues/ menus). My marketing manager, she switched from an old apple laptop to elementary, and she is very happy. I am tempted to buy an imac. They look amazing. But the price puts me off a bit.
Thanks for your opinion on the subject, it was something i was waiting for since you started the channel :D. In my opinion, linux is great for privacy but i´m also aware of its insecuritys regarding poor sandbox, permissions and been written partly in c. As always, thanks for your great work
@@sunknudsen Elementary OS with their Pantheon desktop environment can be an interresting option for Mac users. I'm a former Mac user and I use Pop!_OS 20.04 as a daily driver (It has the GNOME Desktop by default), I add an extension called "Dash to Dock" to imitate the dock system of MacOS. The problem with these two linux distributions is that they are fixed release distributions, So if you want more up to date software, I would recommand Manjaro GNOME.
I just found your channel now. Have you ever tried elementary OS? It's an Ubuntu-based Linux distro that's very reminiscent of MacOS, so you should feel right at home there.
Also, something you said resonated with me. I use MacOS as my daily driver, and the “connection” you mention is exactly what I feel when I use the OS. Well-designed technology should fell like an extension of self. All of the interactions and available options are as I would expect them to be, I don’t need to think too hard to take an idea or thought and execute on it. Thanks again, Sun.
> Well-designed technology should fell like an extension of self. I totally agree and that's why I haven't been able to switch to Linux entirely... the opportunity cost is too high.
Whenever I try Apple products I have the exactly opposite reaction. And I have tried them for over 15 years. 25 years ago agree, mackintosh looked way better than win 3.11... didn't know linux till 2003.
Not worth getting such an old Mac Depending on the price you can get a new Apple Silicon MacBook Air or Mac mini for way more performance and around same price
@@martinsauer4854 Let's hear Sun's take on the M1 chip. I cannot believe Apple did not sneak in some stuff to the original ARM plan they bought the licence to manufacture. What do you say Sun?
Hey Charles, depends how you use VirtualBox... will be releasing an episode on the subject in the upcoming weeks. That being said, compartmentalization is great! I use VirtualBox pretty much everyday.
7:07 Touch Bar..."that little bar thingy(ie) screenie(y) whatever that is" support.apple.com/en-us/HT207055 The Touch Bar on MacBook Pro gives you quick access to commands on your Mac, and changes automatically based on what you’re doing and which apps you’re using. The Touch Bar is available on MacBook Pro models from 2016 or later, excluding the MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Two Thunderbolt 3 ports) and MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2017, Two Thunderbolt 3 ports).
Thanks for sharing, but I don't see much value in "that little bar thingy(ie) screenie(y) whatever that is". As always, it's subjective. I like good old school keyboards with a physical escape keys and decent travel.
I think the reason this video has some dislikes is because your points are very broad. Like in another comment someone asked about arch linux and you said it doesn't suit your workflow. It would be much better if you talk in more depth on the subjects, like mentioning your actual workflow and the tools you use. Like many other people think, the broad overview of this video could be " I like mac because it's the middle ground". Again am not a hater, just constructive criticism. tldr : please make more technical videos
OS X (mac) wouldn't be my first choice but I don't think it's the worst idea. In certain contexts it would be better than Linux. With Mac you may sacrifice some privacy but it comes with better default security. In fact, Linux has the crucial disadvantage of being the ONLY operating system still in existence that doesn't use some sort of sandboxxed display server by default. It is true you could use Wayland and solve this issue, but most normal people wont do this because they probably don't know about it. X11 has access to every application...no matter if your app is behind the tightest apparmor or selinux policy you could write, it could still be exploited if X11 is compromised. This is an area where Windows, OS X, Android, and iOS are better than Linux...again, by default. This shouldn't be an excuse to shy away from Linux, just learn how to use a Wayland compositor for your window manager and you're good.
If you use mac or Linux because of security then rethink again hackers don't care which OS you are using all OS can be hacked. The reason why most malware targeted windows because windows dominate the market. Many companies , banks , even governmental institutions are using windows that's why most of malware target windows OS. Now I will say something will make many people crazy "I feel Windows 10 more secure than Mac OS and Linux". Because security researchers and security companies focuses on Windows security a lot ,and they spend less time on Mac and Linux security. I agree Microsoft have issues with privacy ,but privacy community did great job to make windows 10 more privacy friendly. For me I recommend others to find the best fit OS for them whether they want Windows ,Linux ,or Mac OS there is no right and wrong answer.
Hello Sun! I accidentally surfed into your channel when I was browsing how to configure a mac for privacy! I bought a second-hand macbook 2017 but it has big sur in it. I'd really love if you can make a video about how to choose a second-hand mac! Thank you for your wonderful and helpful videos!
Hi, Sun. I was searching for a brand new router to buy, but then I realized that almost every company in this business are chinese companies. Does that bothers you in some particular way?
Too much time fiddling with drivers and setups. And at times they'll fail, and you'll need to re-configure them. Too time consuming. Better save money for a M1 MacBook, you'll not regret that.
1x5 speed, thank me later..or maybe i just have had too many coffees. Anyhow, i think the same, been using OSX /MacOS for my primary OS from theTiger days. Currently running hackintosh on my desktop PC: I find it to be best combination of quality GUI and "it just works" / support for commercial software" + its real UNIX. Most versatile OS indeed.
thats strange you went for ubuntu. i thought you being a mac fan that you would have tried elementary. zorin is another distro off the top of my head that allows you to switch to an osx style layout
While I agree that privacy and security is a spectrum that to some degree goes counter to convenience, I believe you are placing yourself on the wrong place of that spectrum by overstating how trustworthy a proprietary OS like Mac OS is (basically not at all) and by understating how convenient a modern Linux desktop is (as long as you aren't forced to use certain applications that probably wouldn't run on a macintosh either). And you say that open source isn't safer because most users won't actually review that code, but the point is that some members of that community do in fact develop and review those systems and will report or change them to be more secure and ethical whereas no one can ever review anything about mac OS. A mac sends some encrypted package and you will never know what's in it. Can you block it? Possibly, but there have been reports of some apple software even bypassing the regular network stack. I won't even get into all the other ethical concerns of apple, but as a privacy advocate I would've expected you to be way closer towards the privacy end of the spectrum than you are. Now you are just sending mixed messages and being inconsequent because you are not willing to get more familiar with the linux desktop. You didn't name anything but UI preferences that would actually prevent you from taking that step. At least you do compartmentalize tho. Oh, Yubikeys are proprietary too, there alternatives that cost the same but are open source.
Great video! Tthanks for good content. I also have mac book pro 2015 13 inch and I think it is the vest version of mac. But I want to start discover linux os. I know it is possible to set in on mac book pro as a second os. Please make the video how to do that in most convinient way. thanks
Have you considered using VirtualBox to discover Linux using a virtual machine vs dual boot? Another option would be to use a live distro (perhaps Tails if you are into privacy).
@@sunknudsen thanks a lot for advice. I will try to do it. But please consider to make a video about "How to make a linux on mac OS. Thank you ones again.
5:59 Far West. In the USA we have, had the Wild West. The phrase wild west is applied to any lawless, every person for the themself(collective singular) region, situation.
@@mjwmontgomery Ubuntu has proprietary package manager called snap. Linux community is all about open source. We do not know what they are doing backdoors. Ubuntu in past had amazon app pre installed app of Amazon. This app did tracking of users and kept sending data to canonical. Also, Gnome is a bit of resource heavy desktop environment. It also does not have options for much customizations. If you want to start with linux, then I would say start with linux mint or Pop Os.
@@poojanpandya8864 You are wrong about snaps. The snaps themselves are open source. Proprietary is only the snap store, and it’s a good reason for that.
@@poojanpandya8864 Snaps are not proprietary. There are a million reasons why they suck but they are open source. Ubuntu is indeed one of the worst distros for a million reasons and people have talked about them for years but even that is still better than any other proprietary system. There are a lot of linux distributions that for the most part abide the ideals of the FSF and some even are capable of being fully free systems without any proprietary drivers and the intel ME in some hardware. Criticizing FOSS as a whole just because some portions of the linux software doesn't abide to those principles is making perfect the enemy of good. Free software will always be superior in terms of privacy and transparent security.
With proprietary software you are always leaving security and privacy in the hands of corporations who only care about money and you never know what NSA backdoors they might have behind. Open Source is way better because a community can always make sure their software doesn't have anything like that. And when it has it, they fork it to make a safer version. Apple privacy's propaganda is just a marketing strategy for people who is afraid of spyware but knows very little about tech. I use only AMD hardware BTW.
Using AMD Ryzen with Linux is more secure no intel me, you overlooked this obvious option Opensource is safer because anyone can check the code to see if it is secure... Closed source you can never know so it is not the same.
dont use intel if you dont like intel ME,you say this like AMD has no linux drivers,also open-source will almost always be more private,a good company can always go bad,and propreatary software doesnt put the user in full control by its nature,really just look at apple themselves with big sur-veillance. but other than that,no issue with the video, this isnt me attacking macOS,macOS is(well,more so was) pretty alright IMO for a good distro id use arch for the most control and a fresh slate to customize (even ive customized to to a somewhat "mac" UI,though i more-so went 80% there and then did my own thing for flavor and theming)
open source is definitely better safer than proprietary software ? my answer for me is yes definitely open source is safer why ? for me is because nobody can be sure of what's inside the closed source code so I have to rely entirely on a promise from a profit company this is not good :)
The open source point is disingenuous. If everyone can see the code for every hacker, there's going to be ten other people that can delete the malicious code.
I do not use Linux because of security. For me it is convenience, performance and comparability compared to Windows. I did not use macOS much and I do not see the appeal of it.
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I found your channel by accident and it is beautiful. I agree with you in many points. I also came to the conclusion that it is very difficult to be absolutely private (Intel ME off, Firewall, all software include drivers must be free and open - its difficult but most important for privacy). I completely agree with you that we need to look for a middle ground to be able to work comfortably at the computer. Great picture, cool font in this video. I really like your voice in the video, English is not my native language, but I understand you perfectly, and TH-cam subtitles are generated almost without errors. I have subscribed and I'm waiting for new videos.
P.S. Yubikey is good thing, I want it too) Also Orange Pi, i think its more private than Raspberry)
Thanks for you kind words 🤓
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@@aer0449 never heard of it
@@jamesbaxter2812 look at LTT vid ... Maybe you'll have an idea
@@aer0449 muta's video is more fun
Would love the video about „how to select a 2nd hand computer“ 👍🏼
Buy a thinkpad :D
Unix is king?!
I just wish I could sit down and have a conversation with you. Everything you’re saying is what I’ve been thinking about and feeling forever. I don’t know how I found this channel but it is one of the best that I have came across in the last year. That’s for sure! Thank you for everything you’re doing.
First time with two downvotes... I can feel how hot this subject is... Please voice your opinion in the comment!
Dude, two dislikes are not worth a mention, let alone your nerves. People disagreeing will always use dislike / downvote buttons to make statements.
Now it's 4
@Sun Knudsen Could you tell what are the features you don’t like in windows,And like in mac
Great video,btw. Can you give an advice,i want to learn Python language,which os you recommend : Mac os or Linux based os ?
I think we need to talk about Big Sur...
In my case I use Windows and Linux most of the time for programming, managing servers and gaming, but recently I bought a Macbook air just because I want to test some apps in IOs . I Don't think there is one better than others, I enjoy Linux more because I learned a lot back when I started into programming. At the end of the day, they are accomplish the same goal for me, a tool for accomplish my work and leisure
Great video! Would love a video about the security and linux/unix compatibility of macOS with the new M1 chip. I haven’t seen anything about it in youtube and I need a new daily driver (which I would occasionally use as a linux client via ssh)
I agree an episode on the subject would be great! I have to get my hands on one of these new M1 Macs... Stay tuned!
You can have total security on a computer, just no internet
Even without the Internet and an air gap there are government tools to extract info from your machine. Even sound from your keyboard is not safe
Personally, I would never trust any company with my privacy, especially not Apple, because at the end of the day, a company's main goal is to make a profit, not ensure your well-being. No matter how much they claim to care about the privacy of their users, making money is still their first priority and they will go to any lengths for it. That's just the reality of capitalism. Community driven FOSS projects on the other hand, are made by the people for the people, out of passion. Therefore, I wholehartedly believe GNU/Linux is the superior choice. I use Arch btw ;) and I can safely say, my setup has become more efficient and convenient for me to use than anything else out there.
Thanks for sharing! I agree Linux is an appealing option (more from a privacy standpoint than a security one though)... unfortunately my use cases don't work entirely on Linux.
That's what I'm saying. Apple being about privacy is a myth.
I had to use mac at work and although some Linux things work there, I found no advantages over Linux. In Linux you can have all with keyboard, i3 window manager makes very efficient interface especially with multiple monitors. Standard Ubuntu is imo more user-friendly then OSX. You have short cuts, scripts, context menus. you can achieve the same goal in multiple ways. OSX on the other hand gives almost no options other then their. I finally got used to all limitations but the feeling that I'm a slave was always with me. In next job I got my Ubuntu, installed i3, wrote bunch of scripts for automation and was free again
If you don't need macOS (Adobe products for example), Linux is totally the way to go. That being said, macOS is pretty hackable. When experimenting with macOS, did you stumble upon Homebrew? I use shortcuts all the time and do many things using iTerm2 vs the UI. My .zshrc is packed with hacks.
Hey, I really like your channel, don't stop making videos!
Sir, You‘re the best! Always thought I was smart and precautious, and now I‘m binging on Your videos learning a lot about security and privacy. Please, keep the videos coming...
Thanks for the push and for sharing comments on the privacy guides. Our community is growing!
Hey, I really love your channel. I have spent the whole day setting up my computer based on your suggestions. I truly love your content!! Keep it up!
Thanks for the push and happy this research is helpful.
The problem with Mac for privacy is the Apple ID.
Would love for you to do an episode on buying a used Mac.
I too have stuck on Catalina. I also feel like it can, with some tweaking and extra tools, provide a good middle ground between convenience and security. Linux is more secure, but bordering on too inconvenient to me. I am honestly considering a full switch to linux though.
What is inconvenient about it
I love your channel ! Thanks for your content ! Regarding this video I'd love to hear what you have to say about Apple M1 Macs. It's probably to early but the Intel problem aren't anymore, obviously the T2 is still here. But it looks like the visualisation with linux is doable... Any thoughts?
Great questions... I haven't played with M1-equipped Macs. Will report on the channel once I have.
I agree but I love using Linux.
Arch btw here.
MacOS for me is just Linux but smoother and with more apps. Everything works very well and I don't have to configure much anything. Awesome optimization. The only thing I miss are some configurations in file browser (Finder) to make it more useful, navigation buttons on the right, and native support of Android phones.
Thank you! I use Mac for everything, I really enjoy Parrot though but seem to keep going back to my Mac
I absolutely agree with your assessment! I believe the 2015's may have been the last great Apple computers. I have a 2015 27" iMac with Catalina. I love this computer! I have maxed out the ram, and eventually will trade out the fusion drive for a full SSD. My wife has the 21.5" 2015 iMac. I have already had to swap out the HD because it had become so slow (those drives are notorious for that). But, now it runs really well. I also picked up a 2012 Mac Pro cheese grater, and upgraded to a dual CPU 3.3 and 64 GB of ram. I have run windows, Linux, and macOs X on it, but now mostly use Mojave. I have a 15" Tuxedo laptop (designed for Linux) which I have now installed Manjaro kde Plasma. For my purposes, this is a phenomenal OS. I really like it! Thank you so much for your videos!
Thanks for sharing. Btw, have you tried replacing the thermal paste? I replaced the stock thermal paste in my 2015 15-inch MBP with Grizzly Kryonaut and the computer is running cooler resulting in the fans being quiet when idle. Really impressed with the result!
@@sunknudsen Great! Thanks! I appreciate that information!
I still use Catalina in my Hackintosh and it serves me well for everything I need.
First comment! Lol! Regards! Always following and supporting your channel!
Thanks Claudio, I really appreciate your support.
By the way I recently installed Linux Maint! I was surprised about the strong the security is! I ran Zenmap a couple of minutes after the installation, and I only found like three ports opened! As well... I like the security of the sudo users, and the simplicity to download software!
I made this before installing Pihole (DNS) in a raspberry and a SQUID (Proxy Server) which are amazing block trackers and help you to share less information with extenal web servers!
By the way.. I am little bit frustrated. I made an exercise using this page. privacy.net/analyzer. I was frustrated about how even when you are using a VPN, Privacy Bagder and the Mozilla Security configuration that you recommend to us. This website can still read your browser information! 😠! Any hint?
By the way..."Privacy Badger" gets mad with this webpage! More than 25 trackers! Haha
Hey Sun, I was going to ask, what do you think of the M1 Macs?
Great question John... will try to put together an episode on the subject.
@@sunknudsen Great! Looking forward to it.
Apple has been very vocal about providing support for Linux on ARM and in MacOS 11, alas only through virtualization. I wonder if they will reveal a BootCamp like feature for Linux operating systems, which would be a fantastic value-add, especially for folks that want to be dialed more on the security/privacy side of the dichotomy you described, having more control over their environment, and having the freedom to use the OS they are most comfortable with on modern hardware.
Thanks for sharing Zean... short story, even though ARM will likely be amazing for performance (and doesn't have Intel ME... although it will likely have some Apple ME instead), thank god for my 2015 MPBs. I am saddened by how Apple has been slowly locking down their hardware.
Sun Knudsen, yes I also use a 2015 MBP, as well as a 2010 5,1 Mac Pro, which have both served me quite well for many many years. I will miss the ability to maintain, modify, and upgrade my apple machines in the not too distant future. It’s already here for those that use newer machines. In an enterprise setting I am looking forward to the features ARM macs will potential bring for DEP/MDM/VPP.
Please do a video on buying a a laptop/desktop merc and why don't you load Catalina onto a usb stick and use the live environment?
I use Apple gear & macOS for many reasons, some are the same as yours, some are my own. Mostly though, it's just superior to everything else for me in terms of a combination of usability, security, capability and is an integral part of an Apple ecosystem that works beautifully for me with my iPhone & iPad. Plus, I service, build, repair, and restore Apple gear for a living so it's my wheelhouse. I do use Linux regularly mind you, and have off and on since kernel 2.0 (1998-99 ish for anyone old enough to remember). I love Linux, it's just not for me when it comes to daily driving.
Your point is valid from your perspective. But you see, some of us can't really afford a Macbook...So I believe our best option if we don't like Windows 10 is to switch a Linux OS & Also nowadays Linux distributions are also building really nice, modern & convenient UIs & desktop For example: Ubuntu 20.04 (the latest LTS) & Manjaro are some of the best Linux distros I have used in terms of providing a nice & convenient User Interface for normal (beginner) users who would want to switch from Windows to Linux due to some of its MANY problems & those that are new to Linux.
Thanks for sharing! I agree Macs are expensive... Linux is amazing btw!
@@sunknudsen I also love to use both Linux and MacOS, but the usecases fits different things for me. I also use FreeBSD, and sometimes OpenBSD and NetBSD. They're also great, and again, have strengths in other places.
Appreciate the effort, man!
Hi Sun, I just found your channel yesterday and I haven't stopped watching your videos. I have already learnt a lot about privacy and security. It would be awesome if you could make a video about how we can use internet banking services as safe as possible. Would you suggest having a dedicated laptop only for internet banking and online transactions?
Anyway, keep up the great job that you are doing.
Thanks for the suggestion... have some ideas about banking... stay tuned!
still rocking my late 2013.. best thing ever
These older Macs are treasures... not as performant, but so much more hacker friendly.
Hey what do you think about Linux DEs ? I think Linux also has a lot of great apps (alternative to the proprietary apps). Moreover ,I would suggest you to use Manjaro XFCE and see if you like it.
Thanks for sharing... I have a bunch of apps that don't work on Linux... that being said, for those with use cases that "fit" Linux, switching is a no-brainer.
Is there any desktop-ready Linux distro that does not require much maintenance and has a cool user interface (I've tried pop_os! and loved it but it died 2 separate times and I lost all my work)
One I have tried recently and liked is Parrot OS. That said, I haven’t experimented enough to recommend it formally from a privacy and security standpoint.
@@sunknudsen Thank you, AnonSurf app looks good!
Can you do a video giving your opinion about the new Apple M1 chip devices and how it can impact on security?
Thanks for the suggestion. I will likely look into the M1 chip in the future. That being said, for now, I am worried about where Apple is heading. Happy to own a 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro running Catalina.
The only reason I, as a nontechie, subscribed to your channel is that you found Confucius, you found the smart middle ground between security and good look and feel. Today I am still too much towards design and great look and feel, but I refuse to move to the desert land that looks like the ancient quick and dirty operating system. Also as I said, I am a nontechie so most of that stuff is way over my head anyway. Thanks for keeping the middle ground!
Thanks for sharing... I agree things are getting more and more polarized. My gut feeling is operating at that middle ground is how we'll get more people to care about privacy.
Great episode and fantastic channel! Just subscribed. Since you mention command line - could you recommend a good source where I could learn as much as possible about command line on MacOS? Commands, scripting, how to control the system from the command line and all that? Ideally relevant to Big Sur. Also, do you have insights re. what the newest Macs offer (or ruin) in terms of security?
She’ll used in macOS is ZSH, something you can find and install and Linux and Win. So you can try to follow a tutorial and that. Also it’s depend what you want to do. Ask me if you have any questions.
Would you recommend buying a ARM M1 Mac looking from a privacy perspective?
Linus(LTT) actually thinks - what seems pretty logic to me - that Apple introduced the T2 chip to finally abandon macOS installs to fight the mackintosh scene. So that in the end macOS only comes preinstalled.
shame because i would like to install mac os but without paying 1000+ dollars for shitty specs
Can you believe that a while ago Steve Jobs wanted to distribute Mac OS X so that it came preinstalled on Dell, HP and Sony VAIO laptops?
@@Gamez4eveR What? Can't believe it. What a heck of a "news" :D
I am really glad I found your Channel.
I'm in the same boat. I was a big FreeBSD and Linux guy back in the day (never used Windows consistently for any stretch of time), but at some point I had a change in career and I could no longer devote the same time and effort to tooling around with technology. I didn't wan to abandon % power altogether, though, so macOS struck the right balance for me. I haven't regretted the move once, because I don't feel like I've lost anything (other than money LOL).
Interesting.... Thank you for sharing.
Pleasure!
The issue with closed software is that even if the company is great now, where will that company be in one or two years? you can't trust it for so many reasons. There can be new people in charge that make some stupid deal and implement shady features that you're not aware of. And if you are dependent on that software, then its not like some random project can simply fork it and throw out all the shady stuff.
Are you recommending upgrading to Big Sur? Is Little Snitch functionality as effective as it is in Catalina, Or do we have apple bypassing users restriction on applications and operating system communication with outgoing and incoming calls home?
what do you think about apple (M1) processor?
Hey Sun, love your videos, I found your channel a couple of days ago, and its really amazing content. It would be amazing if in the future you culd take a look at windows 10 regarding privacy. I'm all for more privacy, but I also game A LOT so switching from windows does not seem like a very good option for me, and im not techy enough to know how to check what info is microsoft storing and sending to their servers from my device.
Thanks for your kind words. Unfortunately, I know very little about Windows so I don't feel comfortable sharing Windows-related content. I'm sure other TH-camrs can fill in the gap.
Sun Knudsen Thank you man, keep up the amazing work
Great video. Why do you use iOS over android? I also 100% agree with you about the open source and closed source argument!
Great question Josh... I actually don't trust any phone... Have you watched th-cam.com/video/TAPYn6FC5t8/w-d-xo.html
@@sunknudsen I must have missed that one. Gonna give it a watch now! :)
There's one main reason to use ios over android for me (and that's the reason why I'm gonna switch to apple ecosystem in the near future) and that is the fact that apple making money selling hardware, software and services while Google's main source of income is target ads (basically selling your data to everyone who is willing to pay them). That said pretty much every phone except android phones with custom roms running full foss is spying on you that way or another
Thank you so much! I am a software developer and I am switching to macOS from linux (I also love linux but I use design software and I don't like dual-boot windows for that), I have explored it a little bit and I am absolutely in love with the interface and options already but I have a question: What about the apple id? what are the tradeoffs of using it vs don't? it is sent to apple on the data collected through http too? how can this affect privacy? Your channel is amazing!
May I ask where do you buy your older macbook pros from.
Sure… local classified ads websites or used computer stores.
What’s your feeling about the M1 and M2 processors…
Sun, do you use Keybase? If yes, it would be interesting to know your thoughts.
Hi, haven't tried Keybase... Thanks for sharing. Adding it to my research backlog.
You mentioned a video on used Macs. It'd be great. I've always wanted to try MacOS, but never had the opportunity (when I was a teenager I even tried "to Hackintosh"). Linux is also an option, but I don't feel it as smooth, polish and with a good UX as Windows, my current OS. I also used it, though, with my raspberry pi.
Any thoughts?
Hey Edward, I've been backlogged so I didn't get to the episode on buying used Macs. It's still in the back on my mind though. I agree macOS tends to be (OK let's be honest... macOS is significantly) slicker than Linux. That being said, if your use case works on Linux, there are distributions that are actually quite pleasant to use.
I switched myself and some of my staff to ubuntu. I was using Windows before, and many things frustrated me (printing/ wifi issues/ menus). My marketing manager, she switched from an old apple laptop to elementary, and she is very happy.
I am tempted to buy an imac. They look amazing. But the price puts me off a bit.
Cool music
Thanks for your opinion on the subject, it was something i was waiting for since you started the channel :D.
In my opinion, linux is great for privacy but i´m also aware of its insecuritys regarding poor sandbox, permissions and been written partly in c. As always, thanks for your great work
Sir Have You Ever Tried GNOME Desktop it Has a Great UI/UX Design.
I have... I believe Tails OS uses GNOME. Slick!
@@sunknudsen Elementary OS with their Pantheon desktop environment can be an interresting option for Mac users. I'm a former Mac user and I use Pop!_OS 20.04 as a daily driver (It has the GNOME Desktop by default), I add an extension called "Dash to Dock" to imitate the dock system of MacOS. The problem with these two linux distributions is that they are fixed release distributions, So if you want more up to date software, I would recommand Manjaro GNOME.
I just found your channel now. Have you ever tried elementary OS? It's an Ubuntu-based Linux distro that's very reminiscent of MacOS, so you should feel right at home there.
Also, something you said resonated with me. I use MacOS as my daily driver, and the “connection” you mention is exactly what I feel when I use the OS. Well-designed technology should fell like an extension of self. All of the interactions and available options are as I would expect them to be, I don’t need to think too hard to take an idea or thought and execute on it. Thanks again, Sun.
> Well-designed technology should fell like an extension of self.
I totally agree and that's why I haven't been able to switch to Linux entirely... the opportunity cost is too high.
Whenever I try Apple products I have the exactly opposite reaction. And I have tried them for over 15 years. 25 years ago agree, mackintosh looked way better than win 3.11... didn't know linux till 2003.
Yes, I want to know more about a 2015 Mac! I'm very intrigued about it.
Not worth getting such an old Mac
Depending on the price you can get a new Apple Silicon MacBook Air or Mac mini for way more performance and around same price
@@martinsauer4854 Let's hear Sun's take on the M1 chip. I cannot believe Apple did not sneak in some stuff to the original ARM plan they bought the licence to manufacture. What do you say Sun?
Pop!OS does remove Intel ME
System76.com for the win?
In the end of the day a company could make a system private but you can’t really know . So open source for the win
Is it safe ( In terms of privacy ) to use VirtualBox for Linux in macOS?
Hey Charles, depends how you use VirtualBox... will be releasing an episode on the subject in the upcoming weeks. That being said, compartmentalization is great! I use VirtualBox pretty much everyday.
7:07 Touch Bar..."that little bar thingy(ie) screenie(y) whatever that is"
support.apple.com/en-us/HT207055
The Touch Bar on MacBook Pro gives you quick access to commands on your Mac, and changes automatically based on what you’re doing and which apps you’re using. The Touch Bar is available on MacBook Pro models from 2016 or later, excluding the MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Two Thunderbolt 3 ports) and MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2017, Two Thunderbolt 3 ports).
Thanks for sharing, but I don't see much value in "that little bar thingy(ie) screenie(y) whatever that is". As always, it's subjective. I like good old school keyboards with a physical escape keys and decent travel.
i have 2 raspberry pi as servers and i'm looking forward to learn how to secure them.
Hello Sun! Have you ever tried elementary OS?
By the way, thanks for your always interesting videos! :)
Elementary is great
I really enjoyed this video! Use Linux Mint(is Ubuntu) - But there is a beauty in not being in your way and flawless of "just works"
VER VERY usefull comments...
What about trying Arch Linux doing everything yourself and not a pre-designed distro?
Hey Sebastian, unfortunately that approach doesn't work as my use cases are very diversified as a developer, technology entrepreneur and vlogger.
@@sunknudsen genuine question tf is that even supposed to mean?
I think the reason this video has some dislikes is because your points are very broad. Like in another comment someone asked about arch linux and you said it doesn't suit your workflow. It would be much better if you talk in more depth on the subjects, like mentioning your actual workflow and the tools you use. Like many other people think, the broad overview of this video could be " I like mac because it's the middle ground". Again am not a hater, just constructive criticism.
tldr : please make more technical videos
OS X (mac) wouldn't be my first choice but I don't think it's the worst idea. In certain contexts it would be better than Linux. With Mac you may sacrifice some privacy but it comes with better default security. In fact, Linux has the crucial disadvantage of being the ONLY operating system still in existence that doesn't use some sort of sandboxxed display server by default. It is true you could use Wayland and solve this issue, but most normal people wont do this because they probably don't know about it. X11 has access to every application...no matter if your app is behind the tightest apparmor or selinux policy you could write, it could still be exploited if X11 is compromised. This is an area where Windows, OS X, Android, and iOS are better than Linux...again, by default. This shouldn't be an excuse to shy away from Linux, just learn how to use a Wayland compositor for your window manager and you're good.
Did u ever make that video then?
Wife took my 2015 and I'm stuck with a 2016.
That is love…
If you use mac or Linux because of security then rethink again hackers don't care which OS you are using all OS can be hacked. The reason why most malware targeted windows because windows dominate the market. Many companies , banks , even governmental institutions are using windows that's why most of malware target windows OS. Now I will say something will make many people crazy "I feel Windows 10 more secure than Mac OS and Linux". Because security researchers and security companies focuses on Windows security a lot ,and they spend less time on Mac and Linux security. I agree Microsoft have issues with privacy ,but privacy community did great job to make windows 10 more privacy friendly. For me I recommend others to find the best fit OS for them whether they want Windows ,Linux ,or Mac OS there is no right and wrong answer.
Thanks for sharing... I would add that it's not about the OS we use but how we use it!
Hello Sun! I accidentally surfed into your channel when I was browsing how to configure a mac for privacy! I bought a second-hand macbook 2017 but it has big sur in it. I'd really love if you can make a video about how to choose a second-hand mac! Thank you for your wonderful and helpful videos!
Hi, Sun. I was searching for a brand new router to buy, but then I realized that almost every company in this business are chinese companies. Does that bothers you in some particular way?
I like Ubiquiti... www.ui.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/ These routers run a fork of Debian if my memory is good.
I recommend turris onnia: fully open source hardware, updates, european company, high performance
Hell yeah Sr!
What about hackintosh? Do you think they can be a good choice?
Too much time fiddling with drivers and setups. And at times they'll fail, and you'll need to re-configure them. Too time consuming. Better save money for a M1 MacBook, you'll not regret that.
Please keep trying to Escape! 😇
1x5 speed, thank me later..or maybe i just have had too many coffees. Anyhow, i think the same, been using OSX /MacOS for my primary OS from theTiger days. Currently running hackintosh on my desktop PC: I find it to be best combination of quality GUI and "it just works" / support for commercial software" + its real UNIX. Most versatile OS indeed.
1.75 is better
2x still works
@@dd0n396 yeah :)
thats strange you went for ubuntu. i thought you being a mac fan that you would have tried elementary. zorin is another distro off the top of my head that allows you to switch to an osx style layout
Thanks for sharing. Will look into these distros. I am a big fan of Debian... so I tend to default to Ubuntu for desktops.
While I agree that privacy and security is a spectrum that to some degree goes counter to convenience, I believe you are placing yourself on the wrong place of that spectrum by overstating how trustworthy a proprietary OS like Mac OS is (basically not at all) and by understating how convenient a modern Linux desktop is (as long as you aren't forced to use certain applications that probably wouldn't run on a macintosh either).
And you say that open source isn't safer because most users won't actually review that code, but the point is that some members of that community do in fact develop and review those systems and will report or change them to be more secure and ethical whereas no one can ever review anything about mac OS. A mac sends some encrypted package and you will never know what's in it. Can you block it? Possibly, but there have been reports of some apple software even bypassing the regular network stack. I won't even get into all the other ethical concerns of apple, but as a privacy advocate I would've expected you to be way closer towards the privacy end of the spectrum than you are. Now you are just sending mixed messages and being inconsequent because you are not willing to get more familiar with the linux desktop. You didn't name anything but UI preferences that would actually prevent you from taking that step. At least you do compartmentalize tho.
Oh, Yubikeys are proprietary too, there alternatives that cost the same but are open source.
Great video! Tthanks for good content. I also have mac book pro 2015 13 inch and I think it is the vest version of mac.
But I want to start discover linux os. I know it is possible to set in on mac book pro as a second os. Please make the video how to do that in most convinient way. thanks
Have you considered using VirtualBox to discover Linux using a virtual machine vs dual boot? Another option would be to use a live distro (perhaps Tails if you are into privacy).
@@sunknudsen thanks a lot for advice. I will try to do it. But please consider to make a video about "How to make a linux on mac OS. Thank you ones again.
Interesting
5:59 Far West. In the USA we have, had the Wild West. The phrase wild west is applied to any lawless, every person for the themself(collective singular) region, situation.
Good point haha... I meant Wild West!
I agree.
Can you place linux on an old Asus laptop
yeah i kinda agree.. I still think open source tends to be better tho.
Yes, definitely sir, I also used Ubuntu, but I think ubuntu is the worst choice to look for in linux.
Why
@@mjwmontgomery Ubuntu has proprietary package manager called snap. Linux community is all about open source. We do not know what they are doing backdoors.
Ubuntu in past had amazon app pre installed app of Amazon. This app did tracking of users and kept sending data to canonical.
Also, Gnome is a bit of resource heavy desktop environment. It also does not have options for much customizations.
If you want to start with linux, then I would say start with linux mint or Pop Os.
@@poojanpandya8864 You are wrong about snaps. The snaps themselves are open source. Proprietary is only the snap store, and it’s a good reason for that.
@@poojanpandya8864 Snaps are not proprietary. There are a million reasons why they suck but they are open source. Ubuntu is indeed one of the worst distros for a million reasons and people have talked about them for years but even that is still better than any other proprietary system. There are a lot of linux distributions that for the most part abide the ideals of the FSF and some even are capable of being fully free systems without any proprietary drivers and the intel ME in some hardware. Criticizing FOSS as a whole just because some portions of the linux software doesn't abide to those principles is making perfect the enemy of good. Free software will always be superior in terms of privacy and transparent security.
With proprietary software you are always leaving security and privacy in the hands of corporations who only care about money and you never know what NSA backdoors they might have behind. Open Source is way better because a community can always make sure their software doesn't have anything like that. And when it has it, they fork it to make a safer version. Apple privacy's propaganda is just a marketing strategy for people who is afraid of spyware but knows very little about tech. I use only AMD hardware BTW.
Why amd has the exact same crap intel has?
Using AMD Ryzen with Linux is more secure no intel me, you overlooked this obvious option
Opensource is safer because anyone can check the code to see if it is secure... Closed source you can never know so it is not the same.
Using a Hackintosh for daily driver here...
Title: "Why I use macOS vs Linux as my daily driver"
Video: "Why I use Linux vs macOS as my daily driver"
i'm using linux nad mac os too
When you have time you can prepare firefox nightly i think this can be etter but it sents default data to mozilla
dont use intel if you dont like intel ME,you say this like AMD has no linux drivers,also open-source will almost always be more private,a good company can always go bad,and propreatary software doesnt put the user in full control by its nature,really just look at apple themselves with big sur-veillance.
but other than that,no issue with the video, this isnt me attacking macOS,macOS is(well,more so was) pretty alright IMO
for a good distro id use arch for the most control and a fresh slate to customize (even ive customized to to a somewhat "mac" UI,though i more-so went 80% there and then did my own thing for flavor and theming)
Thanks for the feedback. Good point about AMD... and really looking forward to greater adoption of ARM (not talking about the M1 chip here).
Amd has amd psp so amd is no better
What about laptops with the Coreboot BIOS? Like from System76.
Great question. Have to looking into coreboot.
What about Linux on the M1 chip
I use Fedora as my daily driver
open source is definitely better safer than proprietary software ?
my answer for me is yes definitely open source is safer
why ? for me is because nobody can be sure of what's inside the closed source code so I have to rely entirely on a promise from a profit company this is not good :)
Thanks for sharing... such an interesting debate that probably needs its own episode.
@@sunknudsen thinks sir
The open source point is disingenuous. If everyone can see the code for every hacker, there's going to be ten other people that can delete the malicious code.
I do not use Linux because of security. For me it is convenience, performance and comparability compared to Windows. I did not use macOS much and I do not see the appeal of it.
I don't use a Mac because I can't afford one 😂
If you value your privacy at the most minimum level, you should NOT use windows or MacOS. Apple does not value your privacy. I'm serious.
Most minimum?