Prototype: TS80 USB-C soldering iron - A TS100 Successor?
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e-Design have sent me their latest development: A TS80 prototype! The name suggests a step back in size, power, price?? but how does it actually perform? I am taking it apart and putting it through its 'paces' to find out why in the world they decided to make it USB-powered. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The bit about the headphone jack was, well, absolutely hilarious.
^^^ yussss ^^^^
@Jerre Bruins wow that's cool haha
Hilarious
I couldn't possibly Liszt all of the things I love about this video
clever!
do you already have it on your chopin liszt :)
I can't Hendel this right now.
a German Electronics version of AvE and ThisOldTony channels
Yeah, I'm sure Mendel's sohn will like that too!
I knew I would enjoy this from the moment I saw the use of a saw to open the box.
"I prefer the shortest finger to tip distance"
I'm always burning myself because I want to grab lower than I'm supposed to.
My Stupid dog only finds Tantalum's....
pre-exploded ones?!
Still better than the ChongX's my cats keep digging up
Man this is the coolest comment thread!
@@web1bastler all my antfarm manages to dig up are shot SMD resistors... :(
@@spitefulwar wanna trade for my antfarm, I only get carbon film resistors
Informative and highly entertaining as always. :) Your blend of humor and attention to detail are delightful. Thank you for your ongoing work in creating these videos!
Anyone else waiting for this same manufacturer to make one with a traditional bench cradle/holder with a nice silicone flexible wire and integrated power supply?
I've been saying that since the TS100 craze started. A bench model should have been the next product. One that heats as fast as JBC but costs less than $100 US.
Nope, USB powered hot air ;)
Seriously though these guys always do something a bit *weird* - to make a bench top soldering iron they'd have to get their stuff together a bit. Less weirdness and yes.
Yep they could build a version to compete with a hakko FX-951 but it would have a cool display and open software while costing 1/3. I could totally see myself putting aside my Hakko and Weller station if these guys would just make a bench top model.
There's definitely a market for competition with the big boys who have got very lazy. If anybody can do it it's these chaps, I'd just like to see them make a few more devices and sort out their processes before trying to do something a bit more serious. Solder sucker would be nice, just saying.
jeffescortlx which irons do you have now? I have Weller EC1002. But it's slow, only 40 Watts and over 20 years old. I also have a new in box FX-888D I bought on sale last year. But may sell it and get the new Pace ADS200. I want quicker thermal recovery cartridge tips. BTW TS100 tips are like $10 and up. TS80 tips will probably cost more. Most Pace tips are $11-13.
Yet again another fantastic video, Marco, thank you. I just love your channel. Anxiously awaiting the release of the TS80!
*AT LEAST IT HAS A HEADPHONE JACK*
I've only just found your channel, cant believe i hadn't found it sooner! Love the humour as well as the content. keep em coming :)
I saw your teaser comment on ave so happy to see the vid!
Never have I seen a product review of such quality. You Crack me up. Your energy is infections.
Where so you get these ideas from? Your videos are always super informative and hilarious mate hahahahaha you crack me up!!
I have the TS100, can’t wait to get my hands on the TS80 (TS200) loved the improvements ohhhh yeaaahhh =]
I barely have any knowledge when it comes to electronics (but I do have a lot of interest) and your channel quickly became one of my top 5 favourites.
Good humor, good editing, cool projects and projects. You have it all!
They could have used USB-C power delivery part of the USB standard instead of the proprietary Qualcomm QuickCharge. You can get USB-PD 20V 60W laptop charger really cheaply and the prices will keep dropping because a lot of laptop manufacturer are transitioning to it. Maybe, if the QuickCharge handshake is made in software in the STM32, it can be modified to use the USB-PD.
It also works with Huawei Quick Charge which is also 9v 2a
Maybe it'll be supported during release or come out as an update
@@hotmailcompany52 Release? This vid/comment is over a year old. They already released the product some time ago mate...
@@TheEchelon savage
Perfect, yet another great video with a nice mix of humor and technical commentary.
Thank you so much for both the excellent review AND the humor!
20V 5A USB C is available. The current MacBook Pro chargers provide it.
Not QC3 compatible unfortunately. Check Louis Rossmann's video on this iron
Production value is superb! Each video getting better and better.. Thanks again Marco!
Thank you!
Wow... Beautiful and really useful soldering iron! Loved that! 😀
When you commented at Ave's Video, I taught you are going to hack TS100 to work at USB Voltages!!
I think my main issue with using type c usb is the mechanical stresses on the connector for something you're going to be holding in your hand and it really wouldn't have been hard to have a barrel jack but supply it with a type-c adaptor you could run inline for a bit more versatility.
They have higher end spec USB-C connectors, but my concern is the large amount of out-of-spec cables out there. When 20 volts becomes a thing, we are going to see house fires:P
Then problem for me is more the shape of the connector, flat connectors like usb connectors are much weaker in one direction than the other and rarely that hard to break as a result, barrel connectors are notably stronger.
But the fire thing is definitely a consideration :D
They should keep both usb c and barrel
With the abuse that I've put my USB-C cable through on my laptop(A GPD pocket that gets thrown into bags and knocked about) and friends have with their phones so long as they use a good socket, I expect it to hold up at least as well as a barrel jack.
I'd be much more worried about the cables, I've damaged a few Chinese ones but a genuine apple one has held up well.
TS80 with a barrel connector for 20V would be a huge winner going by this video.
I've been on the fence about the TS100 for ages... never enough compelling reasons to buy, but the TS80 tips me over the fence completely... I can't wait for it to ship so I can get one! Thanks for the great review.
Pulling out the AvE opening? :) Well done!
BergRD looking for this comment :)
I have the TS100. It's awesome! Subscribed.
that was a nice ASMR session
This is awesome. Nice review mate
Another awesome review. When you get all these toys free, I am so jealous. I don't have the budget to keep up with this technology so I may have to leapfrog... Looking forward to the next soldering iron video!
Your a funny man mate!! Like your attitude a humour while content creating!! Bravo lad bravo
Nice ! I have the TS100 and really like it , will be ordering the TS80 also :)
Love the banana ruler :D
That banana must bring you some memories when you was gay, doesnt it?
You sir are hilarious, and a great video producer! Subbed.
Very cool! Love the TS100, but a more portable USB-C version would be a nice addition.
OOHHHHH MAN The sequel was as good as the premiere LOL Now that is entertainment for electronic devices! I really enjoy your work !!
Great Video! ... and a nice review of the ts 80 as well.
Wow, interesting new product...
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
Brilliant video as always Marco!!! 😂
I completely agree with wanting the distance between tip and fingers to be as short as possible. I was planning to build my own iron using the Weller tips, until I found a Metcal for cheap. The ergonomics are superb.
Mark Denovich I agree a short distance is preferred. Have a look at the tips used in the Iso-Tip cordless irons. I have a 40 year old model that's hard to beat. I'd love to see a modern version of my red Iso-Tip iron.
Awesome explain my dude
Jesus... Marco, your videos are getting incredibly funny, keep it going!
Looking forward to seeing if we can use a 3.5mm jack extension lead with this to make what you hold lighter
Thank you for the laughs:-)
Love my modded ts100, but this looks sweet. Bummer, they just missed Father’s Day, and my birthday is too far away!
Good man. Good amount of factual content. Informative video. Cool snail.
Three thumbs up! ^^
amazing video as usual
U could do a comparison where both soldering irons were at real 300c
Great video! Buddy!
I like the idea of it being able to run on generic battery sources - the silicon flexi cable is a must
hi marco, richtig gute videos!
your videos are food for brain, my compliments
Great as always!
you videos is just fantastic m8 :)
This video was amazing!!!
Hello Marco, thanks for your videos. About a year ago I bought a Total Nuclear Annihilation pinball. Sick game and a lot of fun. Recently I've had some issues that require some soldering. I've never soldered but would like to learn as I plan on adding more pins to my collection. Are either TS80 or TS100 good for this application and if so is one better than the other? Appreciate any recommendations. Thanks, Vincent
A slow and steady winner perhaps? But what's the deal with USB PD compatibility? Does it work with both PD and QC 3.0?
This is something that I'm most curious about.. I'll be going down the USB PD path it seems.
Love your videos! Can't wait to buy this!
LabCat Nahh I like the idea of a gas/butane/propane free portable iron. Would make my job easier and tinkering at home on my tiny desk. A quick look on the Weller site didn't show anything comparable?
LabCat just bought one! Woo
i clicked this video for a simple review...now my jaw is on the floor...next level shiznit
ich mag deine videos sehr ! toller schnitt, super sounddesign und immer ein bisschen Witz mit dabei! nach deinem TS100 video habe ich mir auch direkt einen gekauft :D ich verstehe nicht wie ich jahre lang ohne dieses wunder auskam!
sorry 4 my bed enlish ;)
I almost couldn't read your comment, so schlecht ist dein Englisch :)
Danke, das hört man gerne :)
you sneaky bastard! you said what I wanted to hear, that my ts100 is still a valuable option. good job!
Love to watch all your video. Beside your pet I thought you’d bring along a non contact volt detector to show us the fence in the field is life, charged with high voltage. :)
cool vid lol. waiting for my delivery this week.
I've been eyeing the TS100 myself, but, based on this video, the TS80 seems like such a good upgrade that I think I'll just wait for it. I do very much like the design and I have no issue with the USB type-C connector.
That outro is gold
Have you installed the ralim firmware? That gave improved performance for my ts100..
Nope, but I will now!
Interested to see a retest if that makes any real difference.
Will there be any update video? @Tobias Mädel what kind of differences did you notice?
Hey, 20V usb-c power supplies are available, for example the Macbook Pro 15' power supply outputs 20.4V/4.3A
they just had to violate the standard, (even if only by .4V)
i think by the end of the cable the voltage should be lower than 20v under load ( depending on what thickness of wire they use )
its common to slightly over deliver to compensate for voltage loss in cables ( at least in chinesium products )
The tolerance is 5% (+/- 1V), so it's well within spec.
“Banana for scale..” 😂 had me dying lmaooo
Do we know a date when it should come out ?
You probably should calibrate your TS100, that 30° difference is definitely enough to show that kind of performance difference.
I tried on mine - it didn't do anything pretty much. And it's less accurate if the power supply is a bit weak.
Which readily-available tips (ie; does Plato etc make versions to fit) fit this iron, or are they proprietary to that brand?
Thanks for the amazing video (as usual) :D I decided to finally buy a TS100 yesterday, mostly because I got my notebook (and power brick) with me nearly all the time, but an USB C version is even better, since I want to buy a good, fast charging battery bank for a long time now.
Cool PFP
When I built a USB-C soldering iron on a lark last year I was able to get a bit over 30W out of it, and if this one is made to work down to 9v you could do PWM tricks to allow it to sink whatever power is available from the source.
I made a silicone power cord for my TS100 from a tattoo gun power cord. Flexible, solder resistant, it almost makes the TS100 feel cordless. I have an Aoyue 968A+ but the TS100 has pretty much replaced it.
Nice video and nice soldering iron.... you got one new subscriber.....
getting mine in 1week cant wait .
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Weiter so, ein Abbo mehr hast du ;)
nice, what I'd like to know is how long can you work with it? what is the recharge time?
Will the TS80 work with a 6S lipo?
Would I have to make an XT60 to USB-C cable?
This made me laugh very very much. SUSCRIBED!!. incredible sense of humor!
Best video of the day. Love the dog
Another totally Awsome video and review! Great video Marco! :)
I think the tip of the new TS80 seems scarily enough with those 5$ USB solder irons ... it looks actually exactly like those. The first time I saw one of those I ordered one and was surprised to see those little tips do actually work! It seems to me the heating element is confined/packed into the tip part and hence it does provide for more efficient soldering with less power.
I do not know if Marco made a review of one of those cheap USb solders ... but it would be interesting to mention anyway ... I know bigclivedotcom did one review of those ...
It has markings for Qualcom Quickcharge 3 for power supply. Can you test it with a USB-Power Delivery power supply, like the ones bundled with apple laptops these days, or the nintendo switch charger, or one used by a fast charging google nexus phone? As i'm not an android user, I don't have any qualcom QC chargers. I'm curious if it can negotiate power from a USB compliant power supply or if it will just run slowly at 5v, as that could make or break my interest in the product.
I have a TS 100 and love it. But i'm not sure how i feel about the TS80's dedicated use of a USB C. Since i use an old laptop power brick as a power source for the TS100.
My TS100 does have a custom firmware though, which is great since i love having a boost mode for when i have ground plains that need a bit of extra heat.
I wonder is it possible to tweak ts100 firmware to incorporate a kind of fast acting controller to compensate drop in tip temperature.
Why does no-one mention earthing? The TS100 needs a separate earth wire connected by a screw if you want to eliminate leakage current from switch-mode power supplies. And you do, unless you are an R/C nut using it in the field from batteries. Does the USB system do anything to get around this? Are there USB PSUs that pass through earthing (IEC 61140 PELV connection)?
what do you mean by the need of separate earth wire? I'm powering mine from an HP 750w 12v PSU should I do anything about it?
There is a ground connection available on the ts-80 via a bolt at the rear of the unit. You can electrically ground the tip using a spade connector and a a little wire if you want to.
@@lmaoroflcopter guys can you tell me what happens if I just hook my ts100 up to my 750w 12v power supply? should I need to ground anything? It works when I connect it but I don't get the same performance from a more or less equal voltage lipo like a 3s
@@syzygyfpv5135 the grounding we are talking about is more for spurious current flowing through the tip. It should do nothing for performance it's only for protection of whatever you're soldering/you if you hit a live component.
As for what happens with your 750w power supply, it sounds suspiciously like you're using an ATX power supply. Chances are the single 12V rail you're using is just getting pushed too far with an iron hanging off of it. If the batteries work better, use the batteries.
@@lmaoroflcopter Thanks for the help appreciated, I use a server PSU it's HP and my friend did all the cabling for me. I mainly use it to power up my chargers. Thanks for the suggestions again, I like soldering using 6S anyway, I'll stick to that :)
May I ask you please? Where did you get this beautiful TS100 in transparent case?
Hello, what can you recommend for desoldering that is up to date like this product?
When can we expect more tips for the TS80 to get released? Ive seen 12-in-1TS100 kits online, but none for the TS80 yet
At 8:00 the heating comparison of the two models might be skewed due to the angle of the heating element touching he board. Even being a slight angle off, it will not conduct the heat as well as the other tip making full parallel contact with the board. Just sayin'
Sieht ziemlich interessant aus, würde es kaufen, wenn es rauskommt
I just started looking yesterday for a USB Type C-PD IC to convert my TS100... Should I wait for this or push ahead...
How do you get these kinds pf prototypes ? Does the producer reach out to you?
Cause the soldering iron company are one of Marco's fans.
In this case it came from the manufacturer
Marco Reps ahh nice
I was under the impression that they were using the Qualcomm Quickcharge standard rather than USB PD. I bought a PD buddy off Tindie so I can power it off my beefy laptop/phone charger or my beefy power bank.
Hmmm, I was going to pull the trigger on a TS100 when I moved out, but I guess I might just wait and see what price will be connected to the TS80. Metal construction is worth the wait, and the fact that it looks like something you could use to disassemble a Dalek doesn't hurt either.
Oh i have to buy that when it is released
Nobody:
TH-cam: wanna see a guy unbox a soldering iron?
Nobody:
Your mom gay
Anyone else had an issue with tip oxidation out of the box?
Had my ts-80 a few months now sat in the packet and the first time I used it, within about 3 junctions I noted that it was getting increasingly harder to get the solder to wet the tip, so gave it a bit of a clean on a sponge and application of solder and nope it's an instant balls up.
With probably about 10 minutes use in total solder no longer wets the tip at all and heat doesn't travel to the end of the conical tip sufficient to melt solder.
It almost seems like whatever coating is applied to the tip oxidizes incredibly fast compared to what I'm used to.
Giving the tip a bit of a flux bath and application of solder worked for another couple of junctions but we're back to balls forming and a no wet tip. Attempts to use flux as before to try and restore it haven't been successful.
The tip itself doesn't look pitted or blackened unevenly, it merely has a smooth consistent dark transition line between tip material and the rest of the iron.
Just ordered a replacement wedge tip and some tip tinner in the hopes of restoring it back to usable condition but to say it's frustrating would be an understatement also tips for this iron are ridiculously expensive compared to the ts-100, £17 just for one.
Update: this worked btw, using dedicated tip tinner flux/solder puck seemed to clean up and rejuvenate the tip.
I felt the test result where the TS100 only draws 500mA under load seemed off so i tested my TS100. When heating up the TS100 draws nearly 3A at 24V and under load when soldering large thermal sinks i can easily get peaks over 1.5A.
I think there is something wrong with your TS100 or with the tip you are using.
Since my Weller WTCP-S magnetic switch died, I urgently need another iron. I would like to keep on using my Weller PS and the silicone power cable, it is 26 years old and still in fine condition. The price of a new Weller magnastat equals the price of a TS100. So I put a 4A bridge rectifier in de Weller station (without a regulator, since I just have a (1A) LM7824 available, which is clearly to weak). Unloaded, the PS now shows 22.4 VDC (unregulated and unfiltered). Would that be usable for the TS100 - TS80? In fact, I just wonder if the TS100 - 80 can handle an unregulated, unfiltered power supply.
I need that banana ruler!
I hope they implement PD2.0 with the type-c connector, that way they can have up to 100w to heat up the iron. I regularly power my ts100 with a PD adapter and type-c laptop charger. Super convenient.
Where i can find that bannana ruler? :p
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