Despite the video, HMS Nelson also missed Jutland. Warspite is pronounced 'War-spite' not 'Warspit'. When attacked on arctic convoy escort duty by U-711, Royal Sovereign/Arkangel was not saved by torpedo nets. Nets are not deployed while a ship is underway. If you read the wiki page again you will see the nets were used later when she had arrived in port at Kola, successfully defeating subsequent submarine attacks. When she ran aground, in 1947, she did not suffer 'significant damage'. In fact the Soviets did virtually no maintenance at all but without repair she was fit to sail back to the UK a year later. She arrived at the scrapyard in May 1949, not 1957. The elevation gear from her main guns was stored and used at the Jodrell bank site in 1955. So good wikipedia summary, and some nice shots mostly of similar aged battleships.
Yup, the Russians often ruined ships gifted during WW2. The same thing happened to the old US cruiser Milwaukee. they used it, broke it and returned it to the US in a condition only described as a severly damaged pig sty.
Lend Lease materials did not have to be paid for if returned or destroyed in battle; after hostilities ended. That's why you don't see much L.L. materials in their museums. Took decades to pay off war debt.
My dad’s ship USS Evansville was handed over to the USSR in Alaska in 1945. It served in several Asian navies before scrapping. Not bad for Tacoma class patrol frigate built in rush using older technology for asw.
This thing is loaded with footage errors. Also she was NOT scrapped in 1957. She was scrapped at the Inverkeithing yard commencing on May 18, 1949. If you're going to produce these things get your footage and facts right.
Actually they did show gratitude, my grandfather received medals from the cccp .. nothing from the west or Britain.. when he died the Soviet government sent a letter to my Gran thanking her for what my grandfather did and sorrow on the death of my grandfather..so that's bullshit ..
Please don't mis-pronounce warspites name. There was never a greater battlship and she at least deserves her name being pronounced correctly. There was no greater crime than the british government not turning her into the UK's only museum battleship. It was a grave crime :(
No wonder he was confused, titling a video about a Battleship a Destroyer. He doesn’t know the difference between SPIT and SPITE either. It makes his videos hard to take seriously. For those who love history, it matters.
It bothers me hearing "War-spit" instead of "War-spite"... Spite, as in you are going to do something in Spite of what others want. Also yeah, Russia ruining a ship isn't new, but at the same time the British did similar things with their ships such as every Tribal class destroyer that they had which survived ww2, they were in such poor condition that they were only good for scrap, where the 5 Canadian Tribals and 3 Australian Tribals ended the war in quite a bit better condition, even taking into account combat damage and such. HMCS Haida, the last surviving Tribal class destroyer is a museum ship in Hamilton Ontario, she saw plenty of action during the war and Korean War, but was never left in such terrible shape, her crew kept her in the best shape possible, and she performed extremely well.
They were loaned Liberty Ship’s, when returned the lubrication systems had been pumped with sea water ruining the vessels. Ships were abandoned in Yokosuka navy yard....That’s gratitude for you.
The surrender of the Italian Navy meant that there were several battleships that were divided up between the Allies - Russia was owed one of these - as it was difficult to get the Italian ship prepared and crewed ( It was also in the Med and the Black Sea was ruled out as it would have to get past occupied Greece). After much negotiation Royal Sovereign was substituted - The R class battleships were already considered obsolete and the took too many men to crew so had been put in reserve. - An old, soon to be scrapped WW1 Dreadnaught was hardly a gift and I guess the Russians found little real use for her in Northern waters - to be fair the Italian ship without spares and repairs would have been little different.
Dark Seas! PLEASE stop saying "THE" HMS whatever! HMS stands for His (or Her) Majesty's Ship so what you are saying is "The His Majesty's Ship", which is plainly WRONG!!! OK, it works with American ships, e.g, The United States' Ship Texas, but it does NOT work with Royal Navy ships. So stop it! Thank you. That is all. 😜
Royal Sovereign was loaned to the Soviet Union as they did not have a battleship. It wa a bad idea as the Soviets had no clue on operating such a ship and it stayed rotting in dock and used as a toilet until returned in 1949. She had to be fumigated to prevent disease before she was sent to be scrapped.
Typical Russians they don't know what they're doing use something break it ruin it and then return it which is shocking but then it's completely useless so bad that they had a scrap the ship
Incredible speed of 23 knot? Massive ship of 30 000 tons ish? Massive Range of 8000 Nautical Miles? Considering the norm of battleships was 21-23 knot and the faster of the time period pushed 25-26.5 knots, 23 knot is not that impressive, and 30 000 tons was the norm too 8000 Nautical miles are very very limited when you compare the USN who had the New york class at 7000(when they were coal burner), the Nevada at 8000 and the Pennsylvania at 19 000; The R class was again pretty normal and that if its you even bothered to use NAUTICAL miles instead of normal miles for your figures. Too much embelishment is not inviting at all
I´m always suprised at how little actual research this chanel does. Most of the facts presented in this video are completely wrong ( Roay Sovereign missed the battle of jutland because of a technical defect and not because of an inexperienced crew and a lot more nonsense like that) and the pictures don´t even show the right ship at a lot of points. If you want real quality naval history stop watching this chanel and watch a proper naval history chanel like drachinifel.
The gifted battleship was 30 years old ! She was worn out . Two years after this the whole lot were scrapped . When she was returned it didn't matter what condition she came back in..scrap is scrap .
WARSPITE it sounds like WAR-SP-IGHT like the word Fight. Not SPIT like what you do with saliva from your mouth, Spite is more of an action/feeling, its in the famous saying "bite your nose off to spite your face". WARSPITE is sych a great name for a ship WAR-SPIT is definitely not. I know your American and pronouncing some words isn't your strong point, you all tend to say exactly how its written, but some letters do have more than one way to say them which can affect how a word is pronounced.
At the end of ww1, Australia had the greatest navy and control of the Turkish empire, bad luck for the planet we gave it to the empire. How different the world would be as part of the Aussie ethos? Alas our population was to small to run an empire. We sunk our fleet and handed the Turkish empire to the British. In ww2 our land was governed by Mac Arthur, in ww1 America was under Australian command. Lawrence of Arabia was also under Australian command. Small population are we yet the Chinese are cow towing in between their threats. Arming against the Russians and Chinese. Possibly against Trump's insurrectionist.
Commentator, it's HMS Warspite not spit. Spite rhymes with right. Also it's not "the HMS". HMS is His Majesty's Ship, so what you're saying is "the His Majesty's Ship". Sounds stupid, doesn't it?
I saw your video on the USS Iowa sinking the Bismarck in 1943. This is a false story. Is the new pal, AI, creating false narratives, or are you purposely trying to rewrite history? I would appreciate a response. Thank you.
@@gratefulguy4130 they were afraid of losing the last bit of Imperial Prestige they had left. Losing capital ships of the "Grand Fleet" would've been a massive humiliation.
@@gratefulguy4130 get some books mate , and a refund in your education. My family fought in the anti sub war in the arctic and Atlantic..they were afraid of nothing..but then again they didn't hide until forced into the war like the US .
@jasonhartley1305 semantics. The quality of vessels was higher and there was more of them. Yall were just afraid to engage the enemy because public sentiment was low and yall were ready to surrender after Dunkirk.
Despite the video, HMS Nelson also missed Jutland.
Warspite is pronounced 'War-spite' not 'Warspit'.
When attacked on arctic convoy escort duty by U-711, Royal Sovereign/Arkangel was not saved by torpedo nets. Nets are not deployed while a ship is underway. If you read the wiki page again you will see the nets were used later when she had arrived in port at Kola, successfully defeating subsequent submarine attacks.
When she ran aground, in 1947, she did not suffer 'significant damage'. In fact the Soviets did virtually no maintenance at all but without repair she was fit to sail back to the UK a year later.
She arrived at the scrapyard in May 1949, not 1957. The elevation gear from her main guns was stored and used at the Jodrell bank site in 1955.
So good wikipedia summary, and some nice shots mostly of similar aged battleships.
Hms Nelson missed the battle of jutland because she wasn't built till the pre war years
She was built in the 20s
@@bigwerve Exactly, hence the question as to why she appears in the WWI part of the video.
@@bigwerve that's no excuse haha
Yes HMS Rodney missed the battle of Jutland by 8 years 🤣 they weren't launched until 1924 .
Yup, the Russians often ruined ships gifted during WW2. The same thing happened to the old US cruiser Milwaukee. they used it, broke it and returned it to the US in a condition only described as a severly damaged pig sty.
Sounds about right
Lend Lease materials did not have to be paid for if returned or destroyed in battle; after hostilities ended.
That's why you don't see much L.L. materials in their museums. Took decades to pay off war debt.
Sounds like par for the course for the Russian Navy. Like that cruiser they lost in the Black Sea in the war with Ukraine.
Probably scavenged it for all the parts and technology they could before returning no doubt.
@@livethefuture2492it was from a class that was being built at the end of ww1 so not much technology they could’ve got from it
Just like a teenager getting a car for free at 16, they don't care for it because they didn't have to work for it!
My dad’s ship USS Evansville was handed over to the USSR in Alaska in 1945. It served in several Asian navies before scrapping. Not bad for Tacoma class patrol frigate built in rush using older technology for asw.
This thing is loaded with footage errors. Also she was NOT scrapped in 1957. She was scrapped at the Inverkeithing yard commencing on May 18, 1949. If you're going to produce these things get your footage and facts right.
Typical for this channel.
Every single video.
We shouldn't have given them anything. No gratitude from them to this day.
The helped us defeat the Germans
@@Gordonz1
We would have won, anyway. It would have taken longer.
@@Gordonz1Really? We actually helped them. Look at the amount of kit shipped to them, never a thank you!
Actually they did show gratitude, my grandfather received medals from the cccp .. nothing from the west or Britain.. when he died the Soviet government sent a letter to my Gran thanking her for what my grandfather did and sorrow on the death of my grandfather..so that's bullshit ..
@@Gordonz1 The Russians were allied to the Germans at the start of the war.
Please don't mis-pronounce warspites name. There was never a greater battlship and she at least deserves her name being pronounced correctly.
There was no greater crime than the british government not turning her into the UK's only museum battleship. It was a grave crime :(
I'm confused what destroyer?!
HMS Royal Sovereign, nicknamed 'The Tiddly Quid; by her ships crew.
Thank you that was interesting.
No wonder he was confused, titling a video about a Battleship a Destroyer. He doesn’t know the difference between SPIT and SPITE either. It makes his videos hard to take seriously. For those who love history, it matters.
It's an AI voice that gets stuff WRONG all the time. Don't know why the title is janky, unless these are all written and published by AI....?
They've been told about the spit/spite so many times, you'd think they'd have got it right by now! But AI can't read!
@@DrivermanO Yeah, and the channel owners do not dine to converse with the low folks. They don’t bother reading any comments.
All the "Dark" videos are poor, so little effort to get it right.
Is tjis really an ai voice???
It bothers me hearing "War-spit" instead of "War-spite"... Spite, as in you are going to do something in Spite of what others want.
Also yeah, Russia ruining a ship isn't new, but at the same time the British did similar things with their ships such as every Tribal class destroyer that they had which survived ww2, they were in such poor condition that they were only good for scrap, where the 5 Canadian Tribals and 3 Australian Tribals ended the war in quite a bit better condition, even taking into account combat damage and such. HMCS Haida, the last surviving Tribal class destroyer is a museum ship in Hamilton Ontario, she saw plenty of action during the war and Korean War, but was never left in such terrible shape, her crew kept her in the best shape possible, and she performed extremely well.
Which old enemy?
The Russians sided with the Germans at the start of the war, so they were against England.
5:35 Invented 14 years ago, now being installed on battle ships! 😳😟
Please make a video about the USS Princeton (CG-59) mine strike of February 18, 1991 during Desert Storm. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing
🙏🎅🤶❄️❄️🎄
They were loaned Liberty Ship’s, when returned the lubrication systems had been pumped with sea water ruining the vessels. Ships were abandoned in Yokosuka navy yard....That’s gratitude for you.
Sad end. 😢
In the late 60's early 70's my dad served on an Icebreaker that had been Lend Leased and then returned by the USSR.
Good One.
2:00 Jellico was a miserable captain who dissed Picard every chance he got.
We built it, we used it, later we sold it then we sank it...
Leave it to the orcs to tear up a battleship......
Orks gonna do ork stuff
😂 War Spit?!😅
It's War Spite! (Long i )
The surrender of the Italian Navy meant that there were several battleships that were divided up between the Allies - Russia was owed one of these - as it was difficult to get the Italian ship prepared and crewed ( It was also in the Med and the Black Sea was ruled out as it would have to get past occupied Greece). After much negotiation Royal Sovereign was substituted - The R class battleships were already considered obsolete and the took too many men to crew so had been put in reserve. - An old, soon to be scrapped WW1 Dreadnaught was hardly a gift and I guess the Russians found little real use for her in Northern waters - to be fair the Italian ship without spares and repairs would have been little different.
Dude, you can't use the phrase "handle substantial loads" so casually... 😂
The famous destroyer, Royal Sovereign
(You would think this would be a video on Hibiki or Yukikaze)
Dark Seas! PLEASE stop saying "THE" HMS whatever!
HMS stands for His (or Her) Majesty's Ship so what you are saying is "The His Majesty's Ship", which is plainly WRONG!!!
OK, it works with American ships, e.g, The United States' Ship Texas, but it does NOT work with Royal Navy ships.
So stop it!
Thank you. That is all. 😜
Unless it was a mutiny I would say the hand-over was very much expected.
Make a video on USS Diablo
Royal Sovereign was loaned to the Soviet Union as they did not have a battleship. It wa a bad idea as the Soviets had no clue on operating such a ship and it stayed rotting in dock and used as a toilet until returned in 1949. She had to be fumigated to prevent disease before she was sent to be scrapped.
They had the Gangut ..a 12" x12 gun 23 knot battlecrusier from 1912 .
@@jasonhartley1305 Sevastepol and Gangut survived WW2 but had played little part in the action, Certainly not Convoy Escort as was required.
HMS Royal Sovereign
Typical Russians they don't know what they're doing use something break it ruin it and then return it which is shocking but then it's completely useless so bad that they had a scrap the ship
Battleship????
That was a " bad old ship"
Goddam it it’s spite not spit
That ringing noise half way through is annoying AF
so what your saying is they gave the russians a ship that did nothing of note
Jodrell bank, my local radio telescope, if it is possible to hsve one!!
D O U S E THE ROCK-TECHNO MUZAK = UNLISTENABLE with your oversped, murky speaking pace. Outta heah, ya HEAH ...
The destroyer royal sovereign sailed with the battleship warspit 😂
🤣
🌬💦
Warspite is pronounced 'War-spite' not 'Warspit'.
Another great subject spoilt with shoddy dialogue and basic inaccuracy.
Did the author do even basic research on the subject?
radio telescope, cool fact.
my grandad was a naval parachutist,, telegraphist. calling in gunfire form ramillies and friends on d day
Incredible speed of 23 knot?
Massive ship of 30 000 tons ish?
Massive Range of 8000 Nautical Miles?
Considering the norm of battleships was 21-23 knot and the faster of the time period pushed 25-26.5 knots, 23 knot is not that impressive, and 30 000 tons was the norm too
8000 Nautical miles are very very limited when you compare the USN who had the New york class at 7000(when they were coal burner), the Nevada at 8000 and the Pennsylvania at 19 000; The R class was again pretty normal and that if its you even bothered to use NAUTICAL miles instead of normal miles for your figures.
Too much embelishment is not inviting at all
They were built after the Queen Elizabeth class but were inferior to the Queen Elizabeth class.youre right to point your facts
Yes but it had one distinct advantage over us ships .. it had a Royal navy crew.
I´m always suprised at how little actual research this chanel does. Most of the facts presented in this video are completely wrong ( Roay Sovereign missed the battle of jutland because of a technical defect and not because of an inexperienced crew and a lot more nonsense like that) and the pictures don´t even show the right ship at a lot of points. If you want real quality naval history stop watching this chanel and watch a proper naval history chanel like drachinifel.
You call royal sovereign a battleship . But the video is about a destroyer
I war spit on this video. But you didn't "historian" quote David Irving, so at least there's that.
The gifted battleship was 30 years old ! She was worn out . Two years after this the whole lot were scrapped . When she was returned it didn't matter what condition she came back in..scrap is scrap .
If you had the loan of a car for a period of time …would you TRY to return it in the same condition as when you received it ??? …that is the question
She was given to the Communists to be a shore bombardment ship. Like many battleships of her era. She was given a full refit before handover.
All dramatic and inaccurate as usual.
Massively so.
It's pronounced Ra-mill-ees
Not Ra-Mileez...
WARSPITE it sounds like WAR-SP-IGHT like the word Fight. Not SPIT like what you do with saliva from your mouth, Spite is more of an action/feeling, its in the famous saying "bite your nose off to spite your face". WARSPITE is sych a great name for a ship WAR-SPIT is definitely not. I know your American and pronouncing some words isn't your strong point, you all tend to say exactly how its written, but some letters do have more than one way to say them which can affect how a word is pronounced.
Its ai
German battle cruiser HMS. Molke? It joined the Royal Navy? Who knew?😂
Near as I figure Russia still owes us , just saying.... Lend-lease my arse ! 🇺🇲👍
At the end of ww1, Australia had the greatest navy and control of the Turkish empire, bad luck for the planet we gave it to the empire. How different the world would be as part of the Aussie ethos? Alas our population was to small to run an empire. We sunk our fleet and handed the Turkish empire to the British. In ww2 our land was governed by Mac Arthur, in ww1 America was under Australian command. Lawrence of Arabia was also under Australian command. Small population are we yet the Chinese are cow towing in between their threats. Arming against the Russians and Chinese. Possibly against Trump's insurrectionist.
Do you write the “Dark Seas” script. lol. You forgot to mention Turkey’s revenge - the Emu Wars.
Let loose this convict. Convict not my family, granted land in aboriginal territory by the crown. @@stephenchappell7512
Well now in Auburn, a suburb in Sydney live free Turkia. Never heard of the emu wars? @@Colonel_Blimp
Jesus the drugs you take are strong .
Commentator, it's HMS Warspite not spit. Spite rhymes with right. Also it's not "the HMS". HMS is His Majesty's Ship, so what you're saying is "the His Majesty's Ship". Sounds stupid, doesn't it?
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All this channel does is put out bad information.
its warspite... not war spit
I saw your video on the USS Iowa sinking the Bismarck in 1943. This is a false story. Is the new pal, AI, creating false narratives, or are you purposely trying to rewrite history? I would appreciate a response. Thank you.
This was so dumb. no suport shoud have been given.
First.
Is it me or was the Grand Fleet a paper tiger... only engage of favorable odds/invasion of England.... such courage!! Lol
They were afraid of subs. The sub blockade almost broke Britain.
@@gratefulguy4130 they were afraid of losing the last bit of Imperial Prestige they had left. Losing capital ships of the "Grand Fleet" would've been a massive humiliation.
@@eriknewman5288 we didn't have a grand fleet in 1939-45 ..it was the home fleet ..your level of knowledge is pretty poor.
@@gratefulguy4130 get some books mate , and a refund in your education. My family fought in the anti sub war in the arctic and Atlantic..they were afraid of nothing..but then again they didn't hide until forced into the war like the US .
@jasonhartley1305 semantics. The quality of vessels was higher and there was more of them. Yall were just afraid to engage the enemy because public sentiment was low and yall were ready to surrender after Dunkirk.
Narrator is annoying, talking fast a d sucking in air at the same time. Slow down?