It's very likely that the "gourd" they used was probably a "higüero", a fruit not related to gourds but with a very similar in that the shell hardens and they used it extensively as a reciepient, plates, cups, maracas, etc. Given it was so easily accesible to them and a higüero tree produces so much fruit, probably that's the one they used
yah. and with peppers its easy to concentrate mechanically and chemically so it is hard to imagine the natives fighting the spainards where not using far stronger stuff.
Soaking dust in the ethanol/capsaicin mixture and letting solvent evaporate could make some REALLY problematic stuff. Microscopic particles coated in pain oil...
The German traveler, soldier and chronicle Hans Staden recorded the Caeté people, natives of today’s Brazil, more specifically Pernambuco, adding chilies to big bonfires, using the wind to blow the toxic smoke in the direction of the Portuguese
@@ArthurMarreroum trecho relatando um combate entre portugueses e indígenas, que Hans Staden participou em sua primeira viagem ao Brasil: “Nos barcos os selvagens não podiam nos atingir. Por isso trouxeram madeira seca de suas fortificações e jogaram-na entre a margem e os barcos. Queriam incendiá-la e jogar no fogo a pimenta que por lá crescia. A fumaça devia fazer com que tivéssemos de abandonar as embarcações. “
I've grown ghost peppers and reapers, and whatever the growing instructions say, add a month to that. When it says 90-120 days from seed to ripe pepper, give yourself six months. Seriously, in a zone 6 you should start them in March, and transfer outside about late May. They like hot weather but not constant full sun, and they will ripen around September.
i grow my ghosts on the balcony in a pot and they ripend before that. i only have a few plants and move them indors when it starts getting cold. but i guess my plants are alredy pritty much mature when i put them out
My limited experience growing peppers on slightly soggy clay soil in northern Florida was that the mild peppers seemed more tolerant of wet soil but hotter peppers wanted better drainage. I don’t know whether that’s true in general. The long growing season was a help, but in northern Florida there’s a chance of a late frost so setting plants out too early was a bit risky.
You can use your capsaicin concentrate to make old fashion pestcide for plants. About a tablespoon or so of capsaicin concentrate in a gallon of water which was often applied with a watering can and later with a sprayer. That was used before there were chemical pestcides.
I've been growing peppers in Minnesota for a few years. You need to start from seed in January/February and some grow lights to start. Then slowly move outside to adjust to real sunlight, then move to garden in May once it stays above 50 at night. This will give the plant the best chance to have proper sun and temps to quickly go to flower and get ripe red peppers ready to harvest in September. Our window to grow is just too short for most spicy pepper varieties.
Harvesting the gourd while it is still green and then scoring it deeply (sequence so that the gourd doesn't form a calluse around the score line) helps with fracturing containment vessel on impact.
A sling (which would have been one of their weapons they'd have used) would really have made this a fierce multiplier. There would have been minor injury from the impact of the gourds on the foe and metal armour would have guaranteed it shattering from being cast from a sling. The psychological factor isn't to be underestimated either. This would have been originally made with malice towards the invaders on their homelands, they would have made the mix as harmful as possible.
It does seem strange you would try to use ghost pepper/carolina reaper, two peppers that are way more spicy than the varieties back then, so I'm glad you used a mystery pepper instead.
Using them was more because they're known as some of the hottest varieties today, so definitely have enough capsaicin to extract; it was more a backup, rather than proof of concept.
Presumably, it wouldn't matter because he's extracting capsaicin, which is going to be exactly as hot in a carolina reaper than a much milder pepper - it'd just take more of the milder pepper to get the same amount.
Sure because he should instead waste a ton of peppers with a lower capcaisin content, even though the chemical is completely unchanged in any way based on Scoville. Totally. Why not just waste food? Good idea
@@ThomasSawyers it's to provide a more authentic portrayal of historical chemical weapons. Think like using a chain saw when creating a trebuchet, or drill. Yes, modern attempts would be more efficient. However, given the theme of this channel is essentially going through the various periods in history using the technology available to them at the time (in this case, NOT Carolina reapers) it helps to provide a more accurate understanding of the process, and in this case, how difficult/impractical it might be without modern applications. It brings further perspective on the challenges they faced, and see how lucky we are to not have to deal with them.
When you mentioned the Japanese method of stuffing eggshells with blinding powders (which also utilized powdered glass sometimes) the eggshell was not thrown but crushed in the hand before the powder was thrown like pocket sand
@@TrenchCoatDingo Probably bit the point of blinding powder was to do permanent damage to someone's eyes and they probably didn't want that on their clothes.
That capsaicin extract in ethanol reminds me of NileRed's trials of pure capsaicin where, if I remember right, dissolving the stuff in ethanol made it way worse than just putting the powder on your tongue.
I heard a story that early into the colonization of Brazil, the Portuguese were seriously outnumbered and hid in a fortification close to shore. The indigenous people gathered loads of wood, made a giant fire between the fortification and the sea, and threw a load of whole chilli bushes into the fire. The green bushes made a ton of smoke with a lot of vaporized capsaicin in it that was blown into the fortification using the constant sea breeze. Pretty genius if you ask me.
For future reference, capsaicin is fat soluble, which is why milk is the drink of choice for reducing spiciness over water - which just sort of pushes the surface carrier around the tongue and spreads the spice. So if you are suffering from too much heat, rub some butter on the affected area, rinse and repeat. You could also swish oil and spit it out.
I remember in navy boot camp, we all got exposed to cs gas after taking off our gas masks. They called it the confidence chamber 😅so you would have confidence your gas mask worked. Later in my career I got pepper sprayed for security training. Both experiencs I could have gone without
Looking forward to the HTME for Mustard Gas Jk this was actually incredibly cool, seeing how some of the pots trailed dust and having played with sjmilar ideas with dye powder, the more common strategy would likely have been to put a bit of spin on the gourd/pot/etc and aim over the heads of the targets into larger formations, or upwind of them, so they get a nice crop dusting rather than spicy trousers
Everything I see/hear anything about mustard gas all I can think of is that one scene from the joe dirt movie where that kid accidentally makes mustard gas in chemistry class and just screams "OH NO TOXIC MUSTARD GAS!"
@@kirill2525no. The same chemistry that created the ability to put nitrogen into dirt was used to create zyclon b. You can take any invention, and with enough stretching and connecting ideas, get to whatever conclusion you want. But yes, it was the same guy to make both things happen.
@@CrashRacknShoot no i heard there was like a form of it used as fertaliser without that much stretching but maybe I'm wrong, not sure. i didn't look too deeply into it
@@kirill2525 so let me get this straight; you tell people to look it up, didn't do that yourself, and then argue with people that have learned about that very thing you're talkung about. If you "didn't look too deep" into it, then why argue? Why spout it as fact? I'm telling you the difference. That's the most shitdick way to go about anything in life.
I grew peppers when I lived in Minneapolis years ago. If you're growing from seeds, you need to plant them indoors from about Feb. with greenhouse lights, and then plant the seedlings outdoors when the weather is stable around late May or June. The make sure they get enough water and sunlight.
Ethanol pulls out many unwanted compouds aswell. You may want to soak your chili powder in water first (stir/shake every now and then, replace the water). This will leave the capsaicin behind in the chili powder. It could be dried and used as-is or followed up with alcoholic extraction to yield an even more spicy extract.
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alot of your throws theres already dust coming out of the gords, might have been a more useful combat strategy to throw over your target (especially in a compact military formation) and let the dust rain down on many of them at once rather than trying to hit 1 target directly
You could drill holes around the gourds to help facilitate this. Then you could have a large basin of pepper powder that all of your men scoop from throughout the battle.
They likely threw these into mid-lines, rather than directly into front-lines. That would just end up making it harder on themselves. Remember that they were tools of war, with massed bodies; it wasn't "trying to hit one target", which is done here to just get the gourd to crack open for experimentation's sake.
@@ClashBluelight That would raise a serious cloud of pepper/ash dust up in your own area. Bad idea. Especially if there was any wind, or if it was a moist day, or worse, it was drizzling.
@@KainYusanagi The men intended to charge into the affected area anyway, so having some of the pepper in their own starting zone wouldn't really matter. And rain destroys this strategy no matter how you do it.
@@ClashBluelight They intend to charge into the enemy lines prepared for backlash, but dousing their entire side beforehand (besides being a major waste of material) is a terrible idea. Also, there's a reason I specified a drizzle or moist air, both of which would impregnate a large open container of the material that needs be kept dry. If it's raining, direct hits would still cause problems for their enemies.
It makes me wonder if you processed a gourd like charcoal (high temperature, no oxygen) if you'd get a strong but fragile container. Or partially char it.
You should make a reverse Archimedes Screw. It’s better than the water wheel. You should also make an iron bit and briddle for horses (See Turchins study of how the iron bit and briddle had on the size of empires and had a huge effect on the spread off both coin money and monotheistic religion around 600BC) and also the iron key and lock that in turn had a huge effect on the evolution of housing, medieval prisons and later the Italian Medici bank system. Then also the microscope and telescope glass, that sparked the European Scientific revolution.
I once processed 40 lbs of chili peppers.... habaneros were the mildest of the bunch, half of it was maruga scorpion, 7 pot, and jamaican hot chocolate (my fave). The capsaicin penetrated double nitrile gloves, and my wife was gassed out of the kitchen. I have high tolerance to capsaicin, because military training got me used to it. 😂😂😂😂 But stick some fresh chilis in a blender, it micronizes and vaporizes the oleoresin, it gets into the 🫁 😂
I am a huge fan of growing my own peppers and making my own sauces, chutneys, pickled peppers, and salsas. Blending and boiling in vinegar will get you every time, haha.
fun fact, during a protest, people who were trying to enter the Zocalo (Mexican version of the white house), some women started burning chillie plants to use as tear gas, it was a few years ago but still memorable for most of the Mexican population
Andy, I would absolutely love to see the full documented timeline of this project, start to finish. All the tasks running at a given time, all the travel and visits, etc., I honestly think you’re on to some sort of doctorate in historical reproductions
Yeah I would have been spraying down the area with fine misted water to dampen the dust and prevent it from spreading. Imagine any poor animals that were out and about...
You're gonna be missing part of the effect too; imagine how much of that you're going to kick back up into the air running across it or trying to fight when the ground is covered in that.
Hearing about the distilled capsaicinoids and looking at that liquid, I had the thought that if you forced someone to drink all of that, it might very well kill them.
Hell yes! My new favorite channel. Many likes to come and definitely subscribed. You and yours crack me up and I learned something, well not this vid so much-haha. The Roman glass video is outstanding. Thank you.
In Marine boot camp, we had to go into a shed that was been feed with tear gas. We had on gas masks, and you knew immediately if yours was not sealed correctly 😁 However, the Marine Corp wants to make sure you learn why it is important to put on your chemical warfare suit correctly. So, after stating Name, Rank, and Serial Number for 10 or so times - with the gas mask off!! - we were allowed to put them back on while clearing them before breathing again. It was August in Parris Island, so we were sweating. ANYWHERE we were sweating was burning. Our lungs, nostrils, eyes (they made sure our eyes were open when we took off our gas masks - bastards!) were all burning. And many had mucous coming out our noses reaching almost to the ground. I have heard from many Marines that this is still STOP. An interesting lesson and experience. And I am sure that many Conquistadors were slain because they could not defend themselves - I could not have defended myself to effectively that day either 🙂
Lol as someone with chronic sinus issues I went through the gas chamber many times doing so twice as they didn’t have is unmask and I’d say “that’s not proper training, I want to unmask and clearl so they would let me do it again. They thought I was nuts. But after exposure my sinuses would be clear for weeks and I could breathe normally. In field exercises the opposing force would toss tear gas and while everyone else fled, I’d walk into the cloud and attack the opposing force… that was almost always surprised. Then one day they used CN instead of CS. I had chest pains for hours!!! But I still took out a bunch of attackers because the nerve portion didn’t hit me till later. Semper Fi ‘79-‘99
i grow ghost peppers and use them in food a lot. they can get you high too. also capsasin is very benificial for health if you look it up. peppers in generl are very nutritious
"I'm not sure if I'll be doing too many more chemical weapons, a lot of them get a little more lethal than this one" Yeah, no, I think it's a good idea to not make mustard gas.
Commenting at 6:09 in the video, while I don`t know better: If You have access to glassmaking scrap, that can be ground to dust. Plus a trusty leather (smooth side in) baggy, and throw it out while prancing as high as one can! Thats weaponized fairy dust!
i saw on a book that a recipe for metsubishi could be sand, glass powder and iron filings you could also load a musket with gunpowder and put green tea powder as a wad and pour in the metsubishi and you can then shoot it according to the manual
I worked in a plant that made snack foods. One of the most popular items that they produced was super spicy chips. It was all most impossible to work in the area around the seasoning drum with out a good full face filter mask. The funny part was that there really wasn’t much Chile in the seasoning mix. But it would still feel like it was burning your eyes right out of your head! The chips and snacks were actually pretty mild for being “Spicy”. It was just the fine mist of the seasoning in the air around the drum. If you backed off just 5 or 6 feet it was barely noticable.
As soon as I saw the ethanol extraction my entire brain switched to, "Oh don't use that, please don't use that". Glad he made the sane choice; besides, the more modest dried peppers are closer to the historic case.
There are some people who are just natural immune. I used to work at a prison and we were warned that some inmates were unaffected by the pepper spray and/or tear gas.
to some degree, but the upkeep requires regular exposure. In Hong Kong when China was cracking down on civil society to snuff out independent thought, many Hong Kongers started to be fond of the taste/feeling and even came up with stuff like tear gas flavoured icecream
Depends. You can develop a tolerance but immunity is unlikely. Also to combat this there are a variety of recipes agencies/manufactures use with multiple irritants specifically so ppl won't develop a tolerance or have any natural resistance.
if this is how people knowing what something spicy is react, imagine how someone who hasnt known something spicier than pepper would have reacted. they must have thought they were melting
When I was in scouts and in our weekend forest trips we had this military tent with heater burning wood. We many times put dried chili on top of it to play pranks to our friends as the smoke was kinda tear gas. Sometimes we burned it just for heck of it and to see who can last longest
The gourds that were used here aren't the ones that are seen in the places that the Taino lived (the Great Antilles), the gourds used are called "higüera". I don't think they were used as a weapon sense they are quite strong, they probably used clay pots sense ceramics was a big part of their culture. For the pepper they probably used "ají" which is the pepper they cultivated. For the ethanol they probably used the beer they made with "yuca".
I had a roommate once who thought it would be a good idea to put a bunch of cayenne pepper on a hot pan on the stove. It cleared out the house and made it unlivable for the next couple of hours while we waited for the house to air out. It really is just as bad as tear gas.
Frying birds eye chili and garlic is a pretty common first step in many Thai dishes. My husband can't even be in the room for that. I kinda like it though 😅
I worked as an instructor for 2 years at the gas chamber on Ft. Benning, GA... i talked to a large number of Trainees who had also been pepper sprayed (generally they were either prior Law Enforcement or Prior Service) and they all said that pepper spray was much worse than the CS "tear gas" that was used in the gas chamber... i also heard the same thing from Marines and Soldiers that I served with... after about 10 minutes of being out of the gas chamber most Trainess had almost no symptoms of CS gas exposure... that apparently isn't the case with pepper spray or capsaicin based products......
I would have thought that they were supposed to be burning somehow. Though it might just be me missunderstanding the description. The ashes in question might not be "pure", but a mix of charcoal and ashes that you get from a regular fire. A gourd packed with such "ash" and ground peppers would probably produce a lot of smoke, working the same as many home made smoke bombs today. And as anyone who has cooked/toasted chillies will know, the fumes would have the desired effect.
The gourd would most likely have been the “fruit” of the Crescentia cujete aka tapara/totuma or similar varieties. Only used to make vessels and musical instruments like maracas afaik.
I order seeds from burpee every year, they did the same thing with me a few years ago, I ordered beefsteak tomatoes, they sent me cherry tomatoes and roma tomatoes, I am thinking about finding a new supplier but I am hesitent to because my family (at least on my mom's side) has been ordering from them since at least the 1920s but possible even longer.
When my husband accidentally got a black oil pepper mixed in with the Chinese food from the buffet and milk was doing nothing, I called the restaurant and they said to eat peanuts. That worked immediately. So as a suggestion for next time you experiment with capsaicin, keep peanuts handy.
The seeds and veins have the most heat - not sure how long it took you to dry the chili out but in NM we hang them to dry whole or you can use a dehydrator to do the same but we never cut them up to dry because you don't get even drying and the will dry faster
A little chemistry goes a long way... if you want to make your capsaicin extract even more powerful, chilling the product to solidify plant waxes ("winterization") and filtering the result again will leave you with a more targeted extraction. Capsaicin (and quite a few other alkaloids) have fairly linear solubility in ethanol with temperature, while waxes behave more logarithmically, crashing out of the solution preferentially when below room temperature.
In terms of damage, the ash is actually more powerful, since it's highly caustic. That alone will cause some very nasty irritation to the mucosa. You could stir the ash with some water, filter out the unsolubles, dry it back to a powder and calcinate it (lye will react with the CO2 in the air and form (bi)carbonates - calcinating reverses this process). That would yield you with some pretty potent alkali and earth alkali oxides and hydroxides - instant pH 14 + exothermic reaction on contact with moisture.
I'm going to make a well-educated but not expert guess that those red peppers are Fresno chiles. They have a shape and size similar to Jalapenos, but go from light yellowish-green to orange to deep red. The stems are also a bit darker of a green than jalapenos, and they tend to wrinkle more while they ripen.
Can't believe you didn't have gloves on when you picked/ crushed the peppers I had a garden. In it was hot Wax peppers. After I picked them, my hands broke out for 2 weeks😢
just imagining the neighbors being like " why is the air spicy"😆
LOL
lmao....spicy air...that made me laugh more than it should've
The neighbors are prolly wondering why grown men r giggling throwing gourds and making smokescreen tear gas
It's very likely that the "gourd" they used was probably a "higüero", a fruit not related to gourds but with a very similar in that the shell hardens and they used it extensively as a reciepient, plates, cups, maracas, etc. Given it was so easily accesible to them and a higüero tree produces so much fruit, probably that's the one they used
"I made this thing which ended up too powerful so we won't use it" means you're doing something right.
yah. and with peppers its easy to concentrate mechanically and chemically so it is hard to imagine the natives fighting the spainards where not using far stronger stuff.
@@AnonymousAnarchist2 think of what happened if the used the same peppers as pepper spray
kind of like the story of the Bat Bomb. The Fat Electrician Channel covers it well. lol
Soaking dust in the ethanol/capsaicin mixture and letting solvent evaporate could make some REALLY problematic stuff. Microscopic particles coated in pain oil...
The German traveler, soldier and chronicle Hans Staden recorded the Caeté people, natives of today’s Brazil, more specifically Pernambuco, adding chilies to big bonfires, using the wind to blow the toxic smoke in the direction of the Portuguese
como assim?
Yep. Also works with poison oak.
Wow, that's amazing. True guerilla tactics right there!
@@ArthurMarreroum trecho relatando um combate entre portugueses e indígenas, que Hans Staden participou em sua primeira viagem ao Brasil: “Nos barcos os selvagens não podiam nos atingir. Por isso trouxeram madeira seca de suas fortificações e jogaram-na entre a margem e os barcos. Queriam incendiá-la e jogar no fogo a pimenta que por lá crescia. A fumaça devia fazer com que tivéssemos de abandonar as embarcações. “
I remember someone talking about the Japanese doing that with I believe hydrangeas.
I've grown ghost peppers and reapers, and whatever the growing instructions say, add a month to that. When it says 90-120 days from seed to ripe pepper, give yourself six months. Seriously, in a zone 6 you should start them in March, and transfer outside about late May. They like hot weather but not constant full sun, and they will ripen around September.
i grow my ghosts on the balcony in a pot and they ripend before that. i only have a few plants and move them indors when it starts getting cold. but i guess my plants are alredy pritty much mature when i put them out
My limited experience growing peppers on slightly soggy clay soil in northern Florida was that the mild peppers seemed more tolerant of wet soil but hotter peppers wanted better drainage. I don’t know whether that’s true in general. The long growing season was a help, but in northern Florida there’s a chance of a late frost so setting plants out too early was a bit risky.
You can use your capsaicin concentrate to make old fashion pestcide for plants. About a tablespoon or so of capsaicin concentrate in a gallon of water which was often applied with a watering can and later with a sprayer. That was used before there were chemical pestcides.
Interesting. I've been having trouble with some kind of critter digging up my garden recently -- maybe I'll try something like that out.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 Just remember birds don't feel capsaicin so that could be an issue.
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I don't think it's birds. Lots of burrowing, digging kinds of damage.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 Sounds like raccoons, moles, deer, and/or rabbits; should be effective against all of them.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 a badger? Hmm
I've been growing peppers in Minnesota for a few years. You need to start from seed in January/February and some grow lights to start. Then slowly move outside to adjust to real sunlight, then move to garden in May once it stays above 50 at night. This will give the plant the best chance to have proper sun and temps to quickly go to flower and get ripe red peppers ready to harvest in September. Our window to grow is just too short for most spicy pepper varieties.
Harvesting the gourd while it is still green and then scoring it deeply (sequence so that the gourd doesn't form a calluse around the score line) helps with fracturing containment vessel on impact.
A sling (which would have been one of their weapons they'd have used) would really have made this a fierce multiplier. There would have been minor injury from the impact of the gourds on the foe and metal armour would have guaranteed it shattering from being cast from a sling. The psychological factor isn't to be underestimated either. This would have been originally made with malice towards the invaders on their homelands, they would have made the mix as harmful as possible.
when the apocalypse comes imma use spicy slings as a weapon
It does seem strange you would try to use ghost pepper/carolina reaper, two peppers that are way more spicy than the varieties back then, so I'm glad you used a mystery pepper instead.
Using them was more because they're known as some of the hottest varieties today, so definitely have enough capsaicin to extract; it was more a backup, rather than proof of concept.
Presumably, it wouldn't matter because he's extracting capsaicin, which is going to be exactly as hot in a carolina reaper than a much milder pepper - it'd just take more of the milder pepper to get the same amount.
Sure because he should instead waste a ton of peppers with a lower capcaisin content, even though the chemical is completely unchanged in any way based on Scoville. Totally. Why not just waste food? Good idea
@@ThomasSawyers it's to provide a more authentic portrayal of historical chemical weapons.
Think like using a chain saw when creating a trebuchet, or drill. Yes, modern attempts would be more efficient. However, given the theme of this channel is essentially going through the various periods in history using the technology available to them at the time (in this case, NOT Carolina reapers) it helps to provide a more accurate understanding of the process, and in this case, how difficult/impractical it might be without modern applications.
It brings further perspective on the challenges they faced, and see how lucky we are to not have to deal with them.
I thought that too. Habanero is a very old variety and there's no lacking to its spiciness
An important note: the Taino peope were not fully annihilated and are indeed still around. Just saw a tiktok with a member of the tribe yesterday.
When you mentioned the Japanese method of stuffing eggshells with blinding powders (which also utilized powdered glass sometimes) the eggshell was not thrown but crushed in the hand before the powder was thrown like pocket sand
wouldnt it be easier to just have a satchel of pocket sand then rather then a fragile egg
@@TrenchCoatDingo Probably bit the point of blinding powder was to do permanent damage to someone's eyes and they probably didn't want that on their clothes.
That capsaicin extract in ethanol reminds me of NileRed's trials of pure capsaicin where, if I remember right, dissolving the stuff in ethanol made it way worse than just putting the powder on your tongue.
Capsaicin is oil soluble.
I heard a story that early into the colonization of Brazil, the Portuguese were seriously outnumbered and hid in a fortification close to shore. The indigenous people gathered loads of wood, made a giant fire between the fortification and the sea, and threw a load of whole chilli bushes into the fire. The green bushes made a ton of smoke with a lot of vaporized capsaicin in it that was blown into the fortification using the constant sea breeze. Pretty genius if you ask me.
For future reference, capsaicin is fat soluble, which is why milk is the drink of choice for reducing spiciness over water - which just sort of pushes the surface carrier around the tongue and spreads the spice. So if you are suffering from too much heat, rub some butter on the affected area, rinse and repeat. You could also swish oil and spit it out.
Note that the soldiers were probably already bit out of breath before getting exposed to the "tear gas", which made it a lot more effective.
you can also use ethanol to extract the itchy part of poison ivy if you want to give that a go!
My dad knew a priest who burned the poison ivy from his church cemetery and accidentally got a big breath of it, he died. Eurishiol oil is no joke.
I remember in navy boot camp, we all got exposed to cs gas after taking off our gas masks. They called it the confidence chamber 😅so you would have confidence your gas mask worked. Later in my career I got pepper sprayed for security training. Both experiencs I could have gone without
Woah bro, thank you for your cervix
@@MidRatsEnjoyerhaha, cervix?
But it did clean out the sinuses, really really well.
Neither was bad
Looking forward to the HTME for Mustard Gas
Jk this was actually incredibly cool, seeing how some of the pots trailed dust and having played with sjmilar ideas with dye powder, the more common strategy would likely have been to put a bit of spin on the gourd/pot/etc and aim over the heads of the targets into larger formations, or upwind of them, so they get a nice crop dusting rather than spicy trousers
Everything I see/hear anything about mustard gas all I can think of is that one scene from the joe dirt movie where that kid accidentally makes mustard gas in chemistry class and just screams "OH NO TOXIC MUSTARD GAS!"
why not ziclon b? though thats used as fertalizer now XD not even a joke, look it up
@@kirill2525no. The same chemistry that created the ability to put nitrogen into dirt was used to create zyclon b. You can take any invention, and with enough stretching and connecting ideas, get to whatever conclusion you want.
But yes, it was the same guy to make both things happen.
@@CrashRacknShoot no i heard there was like a form of it used as fertaliser without that much stretching but maybe I'm wrong, not sure. i didn't look too deeply into it
@@kirill2525 so let me get this straight; you tell people to look it up, didn't do that yourself, and then argue with people that have learned about that very thing you're talkung about. If you "didn't look too deep" into it, then why argue? Why spout it as fact? I'm telling you the difference. That's the most shitdick way to go about anything in life.
Organic, hand-crafted chemical weapons!
Just like mom used to make
I grew peppers when I lived in Minneapolis years ago. If you're growing from seeds, you need to plant them indoors from about Feb. with greenhouse lights, and then plant the seedlings outdoors when the weather is stable around late May or June. The make sure they get enough water and sunlight.
Ethanol pulls out many unwanted compouds aswell. You may want to soak your chili powder in water first (stir/shake every now and then, replace the water). This will leave the capsaicin behind in the chili powder. It could be dried and used as-is or followed up with alcoholic extraction to yield an even more spicy extract.
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I always called them WorseHelp. Guess I was right...
the neighbors must love this guy
Honestly, the original gourds were probably paper thin. Out here in West Texas. We have the Buffalo guard and it cracks easy.
alot of your throws theres already dust coming out of the gords, might have been a more useful combat strategy to throw over your target (especially in a compact military formation) and let the dust rain down on many of them at once rather than trying to hit 1 target directly
You could drill holes around the gourds to help facilitate this. Then you could have a large basin of pepper powder that all of your men scoop from throughout the battle.
They likely threw these into mid-lines, rather than directly into front-lines. That would just end up making it harder on themselves. Remember that they were tools of war, with massed bodies; it wasn't "trying to hit one target", which is done here to just get the gourd to crack open for experimentation's sake.
@@ClashBluelight That would raise a serious cloud of pepper/ash dust up in your own area. Bad idea. Especially if there was any wind, or if it was a moist day, or worse, it was drizzling.
@@KainYusanagi The men intended to charge into the affected area anyway, so having some of the pepper in their own starting zone wouldn't really matter. And rain destroys this strategy no matter how you do it.
@@ClashBluelight They intend to charge into the enemy lines prepared for backlash, but dousing their entire side beforehand (besides being a major waste of material) is a terrible idea. Also, there's a reason I specified a drizzle or moist air, both of which would impregnate a large open container of the material that needs be kept dry. If it's raining, direct hits would still cause problems for their enemies.
Chemical warfare was my specialty in the Army. Totally enjoyed this episode.
Thank you for your service, I too was in the Army.
When I was in Basic, my drill sergeant was a cbrn
Farts count, these days? ;P
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It depends, some don't qualify, some are overly qualified 😄
didnt chemical warfare get banned after WW1?
I understand your trips to the toilet were frequent but there's no need to share.
It makes me wonder if you processed a gourd like charcoal (high temperature, no oxygen) if you'd get a strong but fragile container. Or partially char it.
You should make a reverse Archimedes Screw. It’s better than the water wheel. You should also make an iron bit and briddle for horses (See Turchins study of how the iron bit and briddle had on the size of empires and had a huge effect on the spread off both coin money and monotheistic religion around 600BC) and also the iron key and lock that in turn had a huge effect on the evolution of housing, medieval prisons and later the Italian Medici bank system. Then also the microscope and telescope glass, that sparked the European Scientific revolution.
I’ve read 1493 and this experiment of the one weapons described in the book is fantastic! Thank you for making and sharing this video!
I'm under the impression that Japanese blinding powder could also contain sand and crushed glass.
Much respect for Theo
yeah man that guy rocks
I once processed 40 lbs of chili peppers.... habaneros were the mildest of the bunch, half of it was maruga scorpion, 7 pot, and jamaican hot chocolate (my fave).
The capsaicin penetrated double nitrile gloves, and my wife was gassed out of the kitchen. I have high tolerance to capsaicin, because military training got me used to it. 😂😂😂😂
But stick some fresh chilis in a blender, it micronizes and vaporizes the oleoresin, it gets into the 🫁 😂
I am a huge fan of growing my own peppers and making my own sauces, chutneys, pickled peppers, and salsas. Blending and boiling in vinegar will get you every time, haha.
@@nasonguy it sure does 😆 🤣 half the fun of making it, is suffering through the process 😆🤣 we're all masochists
@@patrickw9520 It’s just a sample of the final product man! I am a fan of the term “Heatonist”.
@@nasonguy yup, if you can't endure the suffering making it, you won't endure it eating it either lol
fun fact, during a protest, people who were trying to enter the Zocalo (Mexican version of the white house), some women started burning chillie plants to use as tear gas, it was a few years ago but still memorable for most of the Mexican population
Andy, I would absolutely love to see the full documented timeline of this project, start to finish. All the tasks running at a given time, all the travel and visits, etc., I honestly think you’re on to some sort of doctorate in historical reproductions
I wonder how much of that cloud wafted over to the neighbors' yards
Yeah I would have been spraying down the area with fine misted water to dampen the dust and prevent it from spreading. Imagine any poor animals that were out and about...
You're gonna be missing part of the effect too; imagine how much of that you're going to kick back up into the air running across it or trying to fight when the ground is covered in that.
You should've grown and used Chile Tepin. It grows wild and can be about as hot as ghost peppers in optimal growing conditions.
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In todays episode we'll recreate the first chemical weapon
Nah dawg. People been doing chemical and biological warfare for a llllooonnngggg time before the 15th century.
Your telling me that any given moment you can just take some papers and some liquor and make spicy juice that will literally blind someone.
Big pepper spray has been hiding this secret for years.
The amount of dangerous stuff and damage you can do with basic chemistry knowledge at home is alotttttt
Hearing about the distilled capsaicinoids and looking at that liquid, I had the thought that if you forced someone to drink all of that, it might very well kill them.
When searing a steak full of steak spice, I get very similar effects. Imagine making a fire trench filled with peppers upwind from the enemy.
My boss got a dried chilli flake in his eye putting up a light (i dont know how, either). That was ROUGH
1:08 talks about humans enjoying the burn from eating hot peppers. shows human enjoying a bell pepper.
Hell yes! My new favorite channel. Many likes to come and definitely subscribed. You and yours crack me up and I learned something, well not this vid so much-haha. The Roman glass video is outstanding. Thank you.
I had no idea concentrating capsaicin was so easy. I'd be interested in seeing you make some muscle rub from the oils
In Marine boot camp, we had to go into a shed that was been feed with tear gas. We had on gas masks, and you knew immediately if yours was not sealed correctly 😁 However, the Marine Corp wants to make sure you learn why it is important to put on your chemical warfare suit correctly. So, after stating Name, Rank, and Serial Number for 10 or so times - with the gas mask off!! - we were allowed to put them back on while clearing them before breathing again.
It was August in Parris Island, so we were sweating. ANYWHERE we were sweating was burning. Our lungs, nostrils, eyes (they made sure our eyes were open when we took off our gas masks - bastards!) were all burning. And many had mucous coming out our noses reaching almost to the ground.
I have heard from many Marines that this is still STOP. An interesting lesson and experience. And I am sure that many Conquistadors were slain because they could not defend themselves - I could not have defended myself to effectively that day either 🙂
Lol as someone with chronic sinus issues I went through the gas chamber many times doing so twice as they didn’t have is unmask and I’d say “that’s not proper training, I want to unmask and clearl so they would let me do it again. They thought I was nuts. But after exposure my sinuses would be clear for weeks and I could breathe normally.
In field exercises the opposing force would toss tear gas and while everyone else fled, I’d walk into the cloud and attack the opposing force… that was almost always surprised.
Then one day they used CN instead of CS. I had chest pains for hours!!! But I still took out a bunch of attackers because the nerve portion didn’t hit me till later.
Semper Fi
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Would be really interested to see a follow up with Modern Rogue...
My question is how much warning did you give your neighbors? The down wind hazard has got to be bad.
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The neighbors be like:
*War. War never changes.*
i grow ghost peppers and use them in food a lot. they can get you high too. also capsasin is very benificial for health if you look it up. peppers in generl are very nutritious
Well sir youve got my attention great stuff ive seen so far
"I'm not sure if I'll be doing too many more chemical weapons, a lot of them get a little more lethal than this one"
Yeah, no, I think it's a good idea to not make mustard gas.
MIXING THE PEPPER EXTRACT WITH DMSO WORKS INCREDIBLY WELL!!
"I'm not sure if I'll see doing anymore chemical weapons..." 🤣 yeah fair enough
Commenting at 6:09 in the video, while I don`t know better: If You have access to glassmaking scrap, that can be ground to dust. Plus a trusty leather (smooth side in) baggy, and throw it out while prancing as high as one can! Thats weaponized fairy dust!
Genius!!!
@@taurbaby DO NOT ATTEMPT in the states that are united.
i saw on a book that a recipe for metsubishi could be sand, glass powder and iron filings
you could also load a musket with gunpowder and put green tea powder as a wad and pour in the metsubishi and you can then shoot it according to the manual
I worked in a plant that made snack foods. One of the most popular items that they produced was super spicy chips. It was all most impossible to work in the area around the seasoning drum with out a good full face filter mask. The funny part was that there really wasn’t much Chile in the seasoning mix. But it would still feel like it was burning your eyes right out of your head! The chips and snacks were actually pretty mild for being “Spicy”. It was just the fine mist of the seasoning in the air around the drum. If you backed off just 5 or 6 feet it was barely noticable.
As soon as I saw the ethanol extraction my entire brain switched to, "Oh don't use that, please don't use that". Glad he made the sane choice; besides, the more modest dried peppers are closer to the historic case.
I wonder if you could develop an immunity to the tear gas in a non obvious way
I.e. without equipment
There are some people who are just natural immune. I used to work at a prison and we were warned that some inmates were unaffected by the pepper spray and/or tear gas.
Yes you can
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to some degree, but the upkeep requires regular exposure. In Hong Kong when China was cracking down on civil society to snuff out independent thought, many Hong Kongers started to be fond of the taste/feeling and even came up with stuff like tear gas flavoured icecream
Depends. You can develop a tolerance but immunity is unlikely. Also to combat this there are a variety of recipes agencies/manufactures use with multiple irritants specifically so ppl won't develop a tolerance or have any natural resistance.
People used "tear gas" in ancient greece, rome, and europe.. Sulphur and other burnt chemicals was common in seiges
Now you're ready for your FirstWeFeast HotOnes interview.
I'm not sure where using chemical weapons on your neighbors is legal, but good on you for finding that place.
You can do this with quicklime too and it's genuinely terrifying
Yeah, that could really blind people.
FYI. Your pepper plants cross pollinated with the hot peppers and created a hybrid.
Fun fact: Tear gas makes you cry
Nah really?
Fun fact not everyone is effected by it.
You don't say
@@robisnogodFun Fact: in the context you're using, it would be spelled *affected, not "effected."
Fun fact: over 80% of the world's monkeys population is made up of monkeys
if this is how people knowing what something spicy is react, imagine how someone who hasnt known something spicier than pepper would have reacted. they must have thought they were melting
When I was in scouts and in our weekend forest trips we had this military tent with heater burning wood. We many times put dried chili on top of it to play pranks to our friends as the smoke was kinda tear gas. Sometimes we burned it just for heck of it and to see who can last longest
You guy went above and beyond for this cheers guys respectable
The gourds that were used here aren't the ones that are seen in the places that the Taino lived (the Great Antilles), the gourds used are called "higüera". I don't think they were used as a weapon sense they are quite strong, they probably used clay pots sense ceramics was a big part of their culture. For the pepper they probably used "ají" which is the pepper they cultivated. For the ethanol they probably used the beer they made with "yuca".
I had a roommate once who thought it would be a good idea to put a bunch of cayenne pepper on a hot pan on the stove. It cleared out the house and made it unlivable for the next couple of hours while we waited for the house to air out. It really is just as bad as tear gas.
Frying birds eye chili and garlic is a pretty common first step in many Thai dishes. My husband can't even be in the room for that. I kinda like it though 😅
I worked as an instructor for 2 years at the gas chamber on Ft. Benning, GA... i talked to a large number of Trainees who had also been pepper sprayed (generally they were either prior Law Enforcement or Prior Service) and they all said that pepper spray was much worse than the CS "tear gas" that was used in the gas chamber... i also heard the same thing from Marines and Soldiers that I served with... after about 10 minutes of being out of the gas chamber most Trainess had almost no symptoms of CS gas exposure... that apparently isn't the case with pepper spray or capsaicin based products......
I am glad he doesn't wind up using the capsaicin he extracted. That sounds like it crossed the line to legitimately terrifying to mess with.
Imagine walking into that dust cloud having no idea what was coming. lol. I had a thief mace me to escape many years ago and that SUCKED!!!
Could you make the gauds more fragile and therefore more likely to shatter by baking them?
i like how you have to change the title from making tear gas to what it is now
I would have thought that they were supposed to be burning somehow. Though it might just be me missunderstanding the description.
The ashes in question might not be "pure", but a mix of charcoal and ashes that you get from a regular fire. A gourd packed with such "ash" and ground peppers would probably produce a lot of smoke, working the same as many home made smoke bombs today. And as anyone who has cooked/toasted chillies will know, the fumes would have the desired effect.
Watching people voluntarily experience tear gas is always a good time
saying that columbus discored america is like saying that marco polo discovered china
Up next on HTME: Mustard gas!
The gourd would most likely have been the “fruit” of the Crescentia cujete aka tapara/totuma or similar varieties. Only used to make vessels and musical instruments like maracas afaik.
I'm interested to see how some Bolas made from Bottle Gourds with holes drilled into them, hurled over top of the enemy would work.
I order seeds from burpee every year, they did the same thing with me a few years ago, I ordered beefsteak tomatoes, they sent me cherry tomatoes and roma tomatoes, I am thinking about finding a new supplier but I am hesitent to because my family (at least on my mom's side) has been ordering from them since at least the 1920s but possible even longer.
Been wondering about this thanks
wonder if the gourd could be seeded with a crack, even more than the scoring, to encourage bursting upon landing
When my husband accidentally got a black oil pepper mixed in with the Chinese food from the buffet and milk was doing nothing, I called the restaurant and they said to eat peanuts. That worked immediately. So as a suggestion for next time you experiment with capsaicin, keep peanuts handy.
I've never gotten so hungry watching people get tear gassed
If you mix that capsaicin oil with potassium nitrate and sugar then burn it, you could make a rudimentary vversion of cs gas.
If you think that's bad, you should try burning it. That's essentially what a CS grenade is. Burning capsaicin powder.
I reaaaalllly need to catch up on these vids❤ love it!!!
Bottle gourds are tricky to grow man, don't beat yourself up about that. The harvest you had has more than unlocked them.
The seeds and veins have the most heat - not sure how long it took you to dry the chili out but in NM we hang them to dry whole or you can use a dehydrator to do the same but we never cut them up to dry because you don't get even drying and the will dry faster
Try using thin ceramic jars instead of the gourds or egg shells because you'll probably get a better shatter and dust cloud
The Spaniards wore nice metal breastplate, a nice hard surface for something to break on
Come on maaaan. Make mustard gas. You should %100 publish how to do that on TH-cam.
I dont think he wants to go to prision😅
Wow, I never knew they did this!
A little chemistry goes a long way... if you want to make your capsaicin extract even more powerful, chilling the product to solidify plant waxes ("winterization") and filtering the result again will leave you with a more targeted extraction. Capsaicin (and quite a few other alkaloids) have fairly linear solubility in ethanol with temperature, while waxes behave more logarithmically, crashing out of the solution preferentially when below room temperature.
In terms of damage, the ash is actually more powerful, since it's highly caustic. That alone will cause some very nasty irritation to the mucosa. You could stir the ash with some water, filter out the unsolubles, dry it back to a powder and calcinate it (lye will react with the CO2 in the air and form (bi)carbonates - calcinating reverses this process). That would yield you with some pretty potent alkali and earth alkali oxides and hydroxides - instant pH 14 + exothermic reaction on contact with moisture.
This is a lot of work to make Mace but I'm here for it😊
I fully volunteer to have this and other primitive no lethal weapons tested out on me.
You are very brave
Great video!
I'm going to make a well-educated but not expert guess that those red peppers are Fresno chiles. They have a shape and size similar to Jalapenos, but go from light yellowish-green to orange to deep red. The stems are also a bit darker of a green than jalapenos, and they tend to wrinkle more while they ripen.
Can't believe you didn't have gloves on when you picked/ crushed the peppers
I had a garden. In it was hot Wax peppers. After I picked them, my hands broke out for 2 weeks😢