It's hard for the average fighting game player to understand people who cheat (let alone pay for cheats). But I know a couple people like this. They're sad, lonely people who have miserable lives and just need some sort of validation. Seeing a "win" screen online, even if they cheated to get it, gives them that fleeting sense of validation, even if it only lasts for a few seconds. They're trying to fill a hole in their lives. The ironic part is that if they actually put the time in to get good, each win would feel hugely more meaningful and satisfying.
tbh as an offline cheater (yes, offline.) i never understood why people take cheats online. like, i turn my cheats completely off if i go online, get my ass kicked, but it's all in good fun. that's how it should be. i despise online cheaters.
But then Iron rank will be filled with cheaters, and new players will quit immediately after going against high-ranking cheaters. They should ban their accounts permanently. IP ban, VAC ban, everything.
Cheats are always there since the 80s but never ever in a fighting Game. Cheaters also cheat in mk1 and tekken 8. It's funny how the cheater bought the game and will pay more just for cheats. You cheat if your playing a single player game you won't harm anyone but in a multiplayer your just a scrub and a looser
@@codhcod4949 of course they will in competitive games what's the point of cheating elsewhere especially if they pay hundreds of $$$. look at how many famous streamers that got caught because of cheats, they can't stay on top forever. Once they get caught they delete their accounts immediately and vanish from the face of the earth lol. people will cheat to try and trick anyone for followers or sponsorship. Sad very Sad and desperate for fame and attention.
I actually ran into a Zangief in SF4 who could command grab from any distance on the screen. I was literally on the other side of the screen and they were too, full screen stretched as far as it could go. I got command grabbed. I alt f4 so fast but hate that I did because I wanted to record it. Such a missed opportunity. This happened a few years ago.
I dont understand why someone would even want cheats in a fighting game? The game itself is endless, its not you can cheat and beat the game. The whole gamepley loop is to play and get better. It's so self defeating. This is odd.
theres a lot of grinding involved when all you want is like that one item. most people don't care if you cheat offline. i never understand why cheaters take their cheating online and ruin everyones day. offline cheating isnt the problem.
It's not always about winning but making the other person on the other side of the screen miserable and angry so that way these cheaters can feed off their rage. Because rage = funny = content = youtube views or a witch hunt.
Man I wonder if console players might be able to cheat too. I've faced very weird situations. Not 100% the time, but suspicious ones. I press a sweep while they are standing (thing I don't abuse at all), they DI. I use Manon press HP they DI. they mash 100 times in my face I don't press anything, they keep with trash. I try to interrupt with a light, they perfect parry. Last time 1 hour sitting one in front of the other. the very moment I use OD overhead (manon again, it's safe oB, and I insist I try to play patient and neutral most of the time) then magically the player jumps forward and escapes. I'd say perfect frame match. not 100% the time, but many weird spots. Anyways, thanks man for all videos.
Yes there are cheaters on console, too. I run into the auto jump script the most. Every time i do a close range fireball against these cheaters they jump immediately. Every single time. Capcom needs to find a way to detect these scripts. 1/3 of my matches have been against these types of players for the last month or so.
@@urbansouljah1 thanks for your reply mate. I wasn't sure if it was possible. That jump thing was suspicious too but different in my case. I remember pressing a crouching normal while they harrashing and they jumping forward immediately (certain time before perfect parry stuff started happening LOL). I'd say back in SFV era too (jumping). At some point I started to whiff lighter normals they kept jumping and I antiaired them. When using Ryu, I've eaten many jumps "on reaction". Me half a year whiffing jabs even some hashogeki. The moment I throw fireball, jump in. But I cannot say here. The other stuff is too weird for me.
yes, they have stuff like cronus zen / max - DS4 [ these 3rd party software apps allow them to make TOD's or long combos with 1 button, among others stuff like priority input abuse exploiting the animation of characters to perform impossible combos - autoguard etc...
Ive bumped into these type of matches ....where I walk away knowing... something did not feel HUMAN. Additionally...when you go to the profiles of some of these players, their rank shows during the match and not on the profile.
I knew it. Those impossible reactions at fucking platinum or Diamond rank that not even people like Daigo or Justin have 😂 (I played against that Gief in Platinum and against that Ed in Diamond btw)
Hello Machoor. I've experience a lot of cheating in this game from Platinum to Diamond ranks in Asian servers as we are dealing with tons of Chinese cheaters every single ranked matches. They have scripts with them like auto DI, auto jump when opponent starts doing projectile at specific range, auto throw break and more. And yet Capcom still do not have a proper Anti-Cheat program to it as it is not prioritized to their market level.
@@mparagames well if you would hold PC players more accountable and report people to steam and other launchers. Maybe companies wouldn't have to have an anti cheat. As long as there's mod culture on PC there will be cheaters.
Capcom should suspend all their accounts. And properly look closely at the server and remove certain things from the game. Especially when doing updates also these maintenance issues
I can go around mods (like skins or cosmetics) for single player games, but gameplay mechanic changing cheats in online games is deserving of a ban. SF6 doesn't have EAC? I wish SF6 will have admins who will force cheaters to play against them, give them various commands that will cause them problem (maybe cannot deal damage, cannot block, etc), troll the heck outta them. Then if they rage quit the match, force them to join back the lobby and fight against that admin. Do all that, then once they exit the game, proceed with the bans. Yeah, I watched a lot of Rust admin troll cheaters (Camomo_10)..
Ive noticed many playes with perfect reactions to Drive Impact and I cant even anywhere near this. They do this constantly! Its a community of cheaters . If you see a master player 90% chance they are usinf autofire, Macros and cheats.
Yeah, I've been taking a break on ranked play because I'm running into cheaters a lot more. Just been labbing other characters for the last few weeks. I'm hoping Capcom will release some patch or atleast say something about all the cheating.
Im only plat/diamond but i occasionally (like once every 20 fights) fave a very sus enemy too. Like they are not very good, but they are godlike at perfect parrying and they di every uncancelable move. Sometimes i even catch somebody when i jump and di, they di on reaction, even tho i am mid air lol.
I also had very suspicious opponents. Though some had a lot of hours, some of them having several chars in Masters played like 60 hours total:) All of them were not from PS consoles of course
@@bigfitts literally today I saw a master with 25 hrs in ranked. I also saw masters with 700-1000 hrs in BH. Some of those seem people, while others seem bots for some reason. All of them are PC users.
@@gauwoof if he had 25 hours in rape he's most likely cheating. Go back and look at each phase and if they have a lot of matches but only 25 hours in ranked they're cheating
You guys are forgeting the worst sort of cheaters. The ones that are actually decent at the game and have their scripts set to 60% of perfect parry, auto grab, auto jump and you dont even notice they are cheating until they tell you they are with 2000mr
The worst part about it, is these cheaters fuck up the metrics that the devs use for character balance. If they see characters are getting unreal numbers on certain moves, they nerf. This is destroying the game potentially and something drastic needs to happen.
I watched your stream yesterday, then played and faced a 1490 MR cheater. A modern Chinese Luke. He had perfect parries, Auto DI on long buttons the whole thing. And he missed all of his lvl 3 combos lmaoo. He win/loss ratio and his progression were so weird and fake lmaooo. Our last replay disappeared as well.
Whilst videos like this are useful, and I appreciate your effort. I play with my brother and a friend tho and a small part of my mind thought "ooohhh" could cheat and actually win some matches. Fortunately I'm on ps5 so it's not possible anyway and I'll turn cross play off now. But it can also be used to allow cheating scumbags to find out about it. I dunno? It's like a double edged sword but overall I think exposing it is a good thing, so thanks.
Heres a punishment. Send them a Congratulations message for cheating. Keep them in master rank put there MR to 0 and let them play eachother. For eternity
Machoor how can i figure out when its my turn to attack and also what attack to use after an opponent finishes theres. Ive started to realise i keep getting backed up in to corners and depleting my drive guage because i keep blocking
It's a guessing game for the most part when you're in the corner. A trick that sometimes work is jumping out of it but that may be risky if your opponent is a good reader and do anti air with good reaction for example. You can do drive reversal and hope you don't get thrown. Attacks like you said may be a good option, preferably light punch and try to string a short combo out of it to push your opponent away to remove abit of pressure. Really depend son what character you use also in different situations. Edit: If you go to game mechanics you will learn good options depending on the situations you're in. Sf6 has very good training options/tutorials.
I tried calling this stuff out but since I have no clout and I'm no0t that good at the game no one believed me and just told me to get good, also I can 100% believe that people do this - considering how badly the really good players treat the players with lower skill than them, who is really surprised? FGC is always gonna be a shitty place to be as long as the upper echelon of players berate and belittle the lower skilled players. So basically this is the result of the the high level players being assholes to the lower level players - the equivalent to being bullied in school until someone gets fed up and does something about it - it sucks man really does
Ban ip and game key. I don't know why they let this slide for so long. Or just create an alternate ranking where all the cheaters get to fight each other when spotted. An algorithme can detect few occurences based on the inputs and give them 2-3 strikes, then push them in the crappy cheater league.
I have the feeling that showing the pricing and the guy's literal discord to contact on video will get some people watching rn to try it. you could've done with a little bit of blurring/hiding the website and whatnot.
Same thing in umvc3 I play with people who use lag switch..when I hit them it lags so bad I drop every combo but when I get hit the game is perfectly fine an I get combo'd ..if I actually get lucky an pull through an win the match they rage quit..all that only for one outcome me losing smh
Sometime it seemed to me they were cheating but I was not sure. I noticed too many perfect reactions, like a DP on each and every single crossup attack! I am not a pro but it seemed really suspicious to me. Do you think it's a PC mod only or PS players can cheat too? Really a shame!
I agree that these parries are just unusual as if they are button reading. I would say they are using cheats for auto perfect Parry for a certain amount of frequency
Just look at the inputs and see what frame he's hitting these things and then you will know. Human reaction at best I think is 3 or 4 frames so if you see it always at 2 or 3 frames you will know its a program. I run into cheaters all the time its fucked ... CAPCOM needs to really fix this issue.
I’m so happy I don’t give a fuck about ranking and I don’t care about cross playing with people with fucking PCs. I keep it with friends and coworkers that’s it. I don’t really need to go after rank bullshit for me. It is bullshit. Kind of stupid to go after a rank and they reset the tears and all the silly shit they do not interested in that I just like to fight, I love a good fight with technique and execution and just an all-around good experience. That’s all people that cheat and use programs and whatever the hell else they use just trying to make a name for themselves and are beat to something in the game. It’s sad.
like I don't get it. what is the point? the FUN part of the game isn't winning because it's easy, it's learning and overcoming and adapting and not letting yourself down when it counts. Expanding your comfort zone to include things that were once really difficult for you is where the satisfaction comes from. I don't understand the cheater mentality. Such a hollow way to exist irl. They are cheating themselves more than anyone else and they don't even feel it.
I actually ran into this ed 2 days back and managed to beat him with modern jamie. I knew he was cheating in the first game already due to the auto parry. But funny enough it didn’t auto parry certain normals. It only auto parried jamie’s st mk and thats the only movie he has in modern with a disjoint, so i think the parry looks for that. Also, it’s just as you mentioned, I went to replays and couldn’t find the match I had with him. The cheats are scary enough but the fact they can get rid of replays is crazy.
@@machoortv your title is focused on cheaters - but many don't know there's a tool that allows it, it'll pull more attention from lower ranks people like me, even if they aren't ryu mains like us
I feel I've encountered cheaters before. I've encountered people like iDom, Zhen, and FluxWaveZ in ranked and their parries, reactions, and guesses are really good, but I've encountered other players who almost always got perfect parries and guessed right every single mixup I would attempt. To the point where I thought it was suspicious because even those godlike players I've encountered didn't do as good comparatively. Sad to see there is scum that would cheat in a game like this. Actual scumbag losers I'd say
It's easy to spot a really2x good player between a cheating one. If they do same thing over and over against your unexpected but same attack, definitely there something off about that. Like this Solar Plexus Strike but got DI in 1 frame. Is there really a person who can always react fast against specific move? I encountered few modern Zangief that always DI against my hadouken in neutral range.
Cheating in Battle hub is epic. Barely any real players there. It's so obvious when they guess correct all the time, tech every throw, auto counter every exchange. I still play against them but cant push buttons. It's too bad that Capcom cant do anything.
The Dee Jay ones didn’t seem that suspicious just seems like somebody was just trigger happy with DI and kept getting lucky with the timing but all the other ones are definitely cheats.
@@machoortv they wont unless the big names up there demand it its technically a crime to be selling a cheat to a game like SF so a lawsuit would be funny since they can trace his account
WTF Capcom? You make us sign a EULA before we press start in SF and this is happening? What doesn't make sense is that Capcom made a cease and desist on the guy who fixed the SFV online netcode! Meanwhile cheat sites are thriving! WTF?! The part in the EULA that says and I quote, "You will not create Cheats or assist third parties in any way to create or use Cheats. You acknowledge and agree Capcom may refuse to allow You to participate in certain online play if You use Cheats in connection with the Service or Game. Lastly, You acknowledge and agree that Capcom may report your use of Cheats to the Third Party Platform." Again, Capcom WTF?! DO YOUR FUCKING JOB! The people in this comment section paid you money and NOW you are not gonna do what you said to begin with? Screw us amirite?!
These are the blatant cheaters. There are the less blatant that can't be caught except if Capcom puts an anti-cheat on the game. And believe me, they are more common than you imagine.
Glad all this goofy crap is being exposed again. Some People love to down play it like "oh yall just need to stop exaggerating and learn the set". Meanwhile you could be beating said cheater trying to expose the BS that's out there. The sad thing is it puts a sour taste in folks mouths knowing clear this is a real thing from PC or at times console. At the same time it makes folks feel better seeing it so that it tells them "It ain't just in your head that you robbed in a match by some sus shit". players online trying hard to get good will beat themselves up over cheats like that because they think they just ain't ever gonna be good. That's why I still feel offline local spots are always better to play hard. Online you never know wtf you gettin
These cheaters are mentally disturbed because they are not playing the cheating computer doing everything for them and Capcom should ban those cheaters permanently.Becuse that's not fair to other players
I just met a cheating honda player. When even i went for grab he was mashing light punch. When i mashed light punch he magically blocked. Every single time.
it can be cheating, but delayed buttons from him might also be responsible for that result, concretely delayed jabs and especially if you are not in front of his face from +2 to +4 frames in grab range when you attempt grab. You might be certain this wasn't the case and that was a cheat. I just want to point out there are some defensive option selects that explain that situation too. Get someone watching it if you are not sure. Greetings.
I played this guy didn't know if he was cheating I just thought he plays super lame and practices perfect perries but the lag was super unstable but only to his benefit its a tell tale when the match is clearly laggy but the opponent wants to play again
Can you please (or somebody), tell me if there is CHEAT on CONSOLES for SF6? Ive played against a guy that tech always my attempts to throw. Is it possible to install CHEAT on console, or only on PC? Thanks!
@@videoclunk4731 I thought they blocked that? And that thing just macros combos, IIRC. That's shitty, but ultimately way less problematic than auto-countering throws and DIs, auto perfect parry, etc. I play a strike/throw character with no high/low or left/right mix. When I run into these guys and they just can't be shimmied or thrown, it destroys the fundamental RPS of the game.
@@videoclunk4731 Cronus Zen. I thought I remembered seeing an article a while back saying Sony had introduced stuff to keep it from working on their hardware.
so I am not the only one that after having suspicious matches, they are nowere to be found in the replays. I need to know why this happens, and if it actually is a consequence of Cheating or something. If one is caught cheating, you don't just demote him, YOU BAN HIS DAMN HARDWARE, after they can no longer play on theyr machines, they willl think more than twice before thinking to cheat again.
What are they using to take advantage of such cheats? I presume it's only PC players who are able to utilise such cheats? 🤔 *EDIT* BTW, I commented ⬆️⬆️⬆️ before I had even watched the entire video because the knowledge that certain players are taking advantage of such things annoyed me. Many times I have become suspicious that someone is just too consistent with things. Now I know why 😡😡😡
I played against a Pc player today he was literally escaping all my Throws like if his throw tech was perfect I even was trying to gimmick but every single time I did gimmick he never felt for it like wtf he was definitely a Pc cheater that's why I don't like to play against Pc players.
How can you sleep at night, knowing that you cheat in a game that surrounds self skill has a reward? can you imagine being this guy? lame...
I don't think cheaters give a shit about that, they just cheat, that's why they are called cheaters
Probably most definitely likely narcissistic people who do this
I can when I use modern JP in ranked play
Are you a teenager?
@@computeraidedyami No but do teenagers get a free pass?
It's hard for the average fighting game player to understand people who cheat (let alone pay for cheats). But I know a couple people like this. They're sad, lonely people who have miserable lives and just need some sort of validation. Seeing a "win" screen online, even if they cheated to get it, gives them that fleeting sense of validation, even if it only lasts for a few seconds. They're trying to fill a hole in their lives.
The ironic part is that if they actually put the time in to get good, each win would feel hugely more meaningful and satisfying.
Ty Mr Freud. Could you now help me with my step sister issue. It is driving me mad. She enters all nights at midnight and touch me in places.
tbh as an offline cheater (yes, offline.) i never understood why people take cheats online. like, i turn my cheats completely off if i go online, get my ass kicked, but it's all in good fun.
that's how it should be.
i despise online cheaters.
Looks like we found one@@bronzachampionwr1418
Also these cheaters thrive off the idea of you being angry/mad. They feed off the attention and want your reaction.
@@bronzachampionwr1418 I could help with that. Whats your location?
Capcom should reset their rank down to iron if they are cheating, all their characters.
But then Iron rank will be filled with cheaters, and new players will quit immediately after going against high-ranking cheaters.
They should ban their accounts permanently. IP ban, VAC ban, everything.
@@Nnamz I agree with the ban.
Nah, just permaban them from ranked.
They should ban them from the game completely
FACTS
Cheats are always there since the 80s but never ever in a fighting Game. Cheaters also cheat in mk1 and tekken 8. It's funny how the cheater bought the game and will pay more just for cheats. You cheat if your playing a single player game you won't harm anyone but in a multiplayer your just a scrub and a looser
they cheat in all competitive games
@@codhcod4949 of course they will in competitive games what's the point of cheating elsewhere especially if they pay hundreds of $$$. look at how many famous streamers that got caught because of cheats, they can't stay on top forever. Once they get caught they delete their accounts immediately and vanish from the face of the earth lol. people will cheat to try and trick anyone for followers or sponsorship. Sad very Sad and desperate for fame and attention.
I actually ran into a Zangief in SF4 who could command grab from any distance on the screen. I was literally on the other side of the screen and they were too, full screen stretched as far as it could go. I got command grabbed. I alt f4 so fast but hate that I did because I wanted to record it. Such a missed opportunity. This happened a few years ago.
Cheaters have Bern in fighting games for years my guy. Hell mvc2 was literally filled with them once it came out on ps3
@@LillyRuuthat could’ve been a great meme dude
I dont understand why someone would even want cheats in a fighting game? The game itself is endless, its not you can cheat and beat the game. The whole gamepley loop is to play and get better. It's so self defeating. This is odd.
theres a lot of grinding involved when all you want is like that one item.
most people don't care if you cheat offline. i never understand why cheaters take their cheating online and ruin everyones day.
offline cheating isnt the problem.
It's not always about winning but making the other person on the other side of the screen miserable and angry so that way these cheaters can feed off their rage. Because rage = funny = content = youtube views or a witch hunt.
Man I wonder if console players might be able to cheat too. I've faced very weird situations. Not 100% the time, but suspicious ones. I press a sweep while they are standing (thing I don't abuse at all), they DI. I use Manon press HP they DI. they mash 100 times in my face I don't press anything, they keep with trash. I try to interrupt with a light, they perfect parry. Last time 1 hour sitting one in front of the other. the very moment I use OD overhead (manon again, it's safe oB, and I insist I try to play patient and neutral most of the time) then magically the player jumps forward and escapes. I'd say perfect frame match. not 100% the time, but many weird spots. Anyways, thanks man for all videos.
Yes there are cheaters on console, too. I run into the auto jump script the most. Every time i do a close range fireball against these cheaters they jump immediately. Every single time. Capcom needs to find a way to detect these scripts. 1/3 of my matches have been against these types of players for the last month or so.
@@urbansouljah1 thanks for your reply mate. I wasn't sure if it was possible. That jump thing was suspicious too but different in my case. I remember pressing a crouching normal while they harrashing and they jumping forward immediately (certain time before perfect parry stuff started happening LOL). I'd say back in SFV era too (jumping). At some point I started to whiff lighter normals they kept jumping and I antiaired them. When using Ryu, I've eaten many jumps "on reaction". Me half a year whiffing jabs even some hashogeki. The moment I throw fireball, jump in. But I cannot say here. The other stuff is too weird for me.
yes, they have stuff like cronus zen / max - DS4 [ these 3rd party software apps allow them to make TOD's or long combos with 1 button, among others stuff like priority input abuse exploiting the animation of characters to perform impossible combos - autoguard etc...
Ive bumped into these type of matches ....where I walk away knowing... something did not feel HUMAN. Additionally...when you go to the profiles of some of these players, their rank shows during the match and not on the profile.
I knew it. Those impossible reactions at fucking platinum or Diamond rank that not even people like Daigo or Justin have 😂
(I played against that Gief in Platinum and against that Ed in Diamond btw)
I played this guy! he would just whiff punish every move and would just not do anything but down back if I didn't attack or enter his range
He is a fraud!
Hello Machoor. I've experience a lot of cheating in this game from Platinum to Diamond ranks in Asian servers as we are dealing with tons of Chinese cheaters every single ranked matches. They have scripts with them like auto DI, auto jump when opponent starts doing projectile at specific range, auto throw break and more. And yet Capcom still do not have a proper Anti-Cheat program to it as it is not prioritized to their market level.
It sounds like Capcom is in on the cheating...you can't say they aren't aware of it
cheaters are everywhere I don't even play on asian servers, its been like this since the game came out
The reason they're anti-cheat is not strong because the PC players will complain that it bogs down their performance when they know it don't
@@bigfitts but they do reduce the performance....
@@mparagames well if you would hold PC players more accountable and report people to steam and other launchers. Maybe companies wouldn't have to have an anti cheat. As long as there's mod culture on PC there will be cheaters.
I really appreciate this breakdown. 🙏🏾 It helps so we know what to look for if we think someone is cheating
You’re most welcome!
Capcom should suspend all their accounts. And properly look closely at the server and remove certain things from the game. Especially when doing updates also these maintenance issues
I faced the same Ed this morning. Haha. I blocked him after the first match. I lost though.
Damn, it hurts losing to such people
is sad really, they seek validation so badly that they fake abilities in a game. must live empty lives
I can go around mods (like skins or cosmetics) for single player games, but gameplay mechanic changing cheats in online games is deserving of a ban. SF6 doesn't have EAC? I wish SF6 will have admins who will force cheaters to play against them, give them various commands that will cause them problem (maybe cannot deal damage, cannot block, etc), troll the heck outta them. Then if they rage quit the match, force them to join back the lobby and fight against that admin.
Do all that, then once they exit the game, proceed with the bans. Yeah, I watched a lot of Rust admin troll cheaters (Camomo_10)..
yeah they never doing this capcom b lazy asf
Ive noticed many playes with perfect reactions to Drive Impact and I cant even anywhere near this. They do this constantly! Its a community of cheaters .
If you see a master player 90% chance they are usinf autofire, Macros and cheats.
Swear to god I fought that same ED before the reset. He's not the only supsicious player though, the grab teching shenanigans is very common online.
I fought that same guy about 4 days ago. At first I didn't want to admit it but as the match went on, it was clear something was off.
@@armyofeliteassassins yeah if I run into dude he's blocked. Might as well do it to these kinds of players.
Yeah, I've been taking a break on ranked play because I'm running into cheaters a lot more. Just been labbing other characters for the last few weeks. I'm hoping Capcom will release some patch or atleast say something about all the cheating.
Im only plat/diamond but i occasionally (like once every 20 fights) fave a very sus enemy too. Like they are not very good, but they are godlike at perfect parrying and they di every uncancelable move.
Sometimes i even catch somebody when i jump and di, they di on reaction, even tho i am mid air lol.
I also had very suspicious opponents.
Though some had a lot of hours, some of them having several chars in Masters played like 60 hours total:)
All of them were not from PS consoles of course
You got to watch some of the people that have a lot of hours because they're leaving their system or PC on so it looks like they play a lot
@@bigfitts literally today I saw a master with 25 hrs in ranked.
I also saw masters with 700-1000 hrs in BH. Some of those seem people, while others seem bots for some reason. All of them are PC users.
@@gauwoof if he had 25 hours in rape he's most likely cheating. Go back and look at each phase and if they have a lot of matches but only 25 hours in ranked they're cheating
You guys are forgeting the worst sort of cheaters. The ones that are actually decent at the game and have their scripts set to 60% of perfect parry, auto grab, auto jump and you dont even notice they are cheating until they tell you they are with 2000mr
The worst part about it, is these cheaters fuck up the metrics that the devs use for character balance. If they see characters are getting unreal numbers on certain moves, they nerf. This is destroying the game potentially and something drastic needs to happen.
I watched your stream yesterday, then played and faced a 1490 MR cheater. A modern Chinese Luke. He had perfect parries, Auto DI on long buttons the whole thing. And he missed all of his lvl 3 combos lmaoo. He win/loss ratio and his progression were so weird and fake lmaooo. Our last replay disappeared as well.
There are a lot of cheaters in street fighter I’ve noticed a lot of suspicious behavior in matches sometimes it’s a shame
Sometimes it’s skill you have to be sure before accusing someone
Whilst videos like this are useful, and I appreciate your effort.
I play with my brother and a friend tho and a small part of my mind thought "ooohhh" could cheat and actually win some matches.
Fortunately I'm on ps5 so it's not possible anyway and I'll turn cross play off now.
But it can also be used to allow cheating scumbags to find out about it.
I dunno? It's like a double edged sword but overall I think exposing it is a good thing, so thanks.
Tbh the price is a big hurdle for regular people to get it, this isn't like call of duty cheating where it costs 10$
It’s gotten so bad my block list is full! Capcom needs to do more to catch and reprimand these losers….and have no limit on block list 😅
Heres a punishment. Send them a Congratulations message for cheating. Keep them in master rank put there MR to 0 and let them play eachother. For eternity
This game is going to a place of no return soon enough. Alot of people are quitting sf6 because of it and capcom dont do shit about it
Is this cheat hack only available for PC players? If so, is it possible to only fight vs console players?
Machoor how can i figure out when its my turn to attack and also what attack to use after an opponent finishes theres. Ive started to realise i keep getting backed up in to corners and depleting my drive guage because i keep blocking
It's a guessing game for the most part when you're in the corner. A trick that sometimes work is jumping out of it but that may be risky if your opponent is a good reader and do anti air with good reaction for example. You can do drive reversal and hope you don't get thrown. Attacks like you said may be a good option, preferably light punch and try to string a short combo out of it to push your opponent away to remove abit of pressure. Really depend son what character you use also in different situations. Edit: If you go to game mechanics you will learn good options depending on the situations you're in. Sf6 has very good training options/tutorials.
Well, it can only be done on PC, just like Call of Duty cheaters out there. Thats probably the reason way SOME people even but these games in PC.
False, cheats are available on console to.
I tried calling this stuff out but since I have no clout and I'm no0t that good at the game no one believed me and just told me to get good, also I can 100% believe that people do this - considering how badly the really good players treat the players with lower skill than them, who is really surprised? FGC is always gonna be a shitty place to be as long as the upper echelon of players berate and belittle the lower skilled players. So basically this is the result of the the high level players being assholes to the lower level players - the equivalent to being bullied in school until someone gets fed up and does something about it - it sucks man really does
I played that 'DontJudgeMe' online...I thought the match was void at the point when I saw he was using modern.
Ban ip and game key. I don't know why they let this slide for so long.
Or just create an alternate ranking where all the cheaters get to fight each other when spotted. An algorithme can detect few occurences based on the inputs and give them 2-3 strikes, then push them in the crappy cheater league.
I found lots of people online jumping footballs at close range, I don't think it's possible
great denjin vlogging, people dont know but cheating is a lifestyle kappa
I have the feeling that showing the pricing and the guy's literal discord to contact on video will get some people watching rn to try it.
you could've done with a little bit of blurring/hiding the website and whatnot.
It’s very expensive if you’re that desperate to win then there is something wrong with you
Thanks for the shorter video. Though I gotta say it could still be more concise.
omg you just helped me so much to spot this now im only silver5 but ran into this alot
Same thing in umvc3 I play with people who use lag switch..when I hit them it lags so bad I drop every combo but when I get hit the game is perfectly fine an I get combo'd ..if I actually get lucky an pull through an win the match they rage quit..all that only for one outcome me losing smh
Sometime it seemed to me they were cheating but I was not sure. I noticed too many perfect reactions, like a DP on each and every single crossup attack! I am not a pro but it seemed really suspicious to me. Do you think it's a PC mod only or PS players can cheat too? Really a shame!
I mean, your first clue should have been the "M" up there by his name. He's already shown himself to be a garbage human w/ that choice.
I agree that these parries are just unusual as if they are button reading. I would say they are using cheats for auto perfect Parry for a certain amount of frequency
Just look at the inputs and see what frame he's hitting these things and then you will know. Human reaction at best I think is 3 or 4 frames so if you see it always at 2 or 3 frames you will know its a program. I run into cheaters all the time its fucked ... CAPCOM needs to really fix this issue.
I've been telling my gf that I wouldn't know what cheating on a fighting game would look like. This video makes was needed. Thank you
Imagine watching someone do everything that you'd want to do in the blink of an eye.
That “I TOLD YOU” moment gonna feel sweet 😂
I’m so happy I don’t give a fuck about ranking and I don’t care about cross playing with people with fucking PCs. I keep it with friends and coworkers that’s it. I don’t really need to go after rank bullshit for me. It is bullshit. Kind of stupid to go after a rank and they reset the tears and all the silly shit they do not interested in that I just like to fight, I love a good fight with technique and execution and just an all-around good experience. That’s all people that cheat and use programs and whatever the hell else they use just trying to make a name for themselves and are beat to something in the game. It’s sad.
I really hate cheaters. I fought a cammy once with a 90 win streak, playing insane. I knew something was up but makes sense now.
Maybe they were really good
@@machoortv maybe, but 90 win streak at diamond seems suspicious
@@Shoryuken_87diamond players are pretty bad so I could see it
@@tinypig3191 ouch 😭
like I don't get it. what is the point? the FUN part of the game isn't winning because it's easy, it's learning and overcoming and adapting and not letting yourself down when it counts. Expanding your comfort zone to include things that were once really difficult for you is where the satisfaction comes from. I don't understand the cheater mentality. Such a hollow way to exist irl. They are cheating themselves more than anyone else and they don't even feel it.
This is why I quit a couple of months ago.
You really quit because of cheaters?
@@machoortv Yep. Refuse to waste my life playing cheaters, even if it's only a fraction of players.
@@machoortv its actually a decent reason to quit why continue to play if your fun is ruined because some bozo needed to pay for his wins
I played this guy a few times, he is definitely a cheater. He doesnt do anything and just waits for you to press a button.
A cheater only cheats himself...
Absolutely!
I don't care about cheater because not real but The most wrong capcom did is modern control must no existing
Machoor have you ever used a split dpad?
Yeah it sucks, only good for guile
And what about the rage quitters that aren't penalized when disconnected?
They are penalized
I actually ran into this ed 2 days back and managed to beat him with modern jamie. I knew he was cheating in the first game already due to the auto parry. But funny enough it didn’t auto parry certain normals. It only auto parried jamie’s st mk and thats the only movie he has in modern with a disjoint, so i think the parry looks for that. Also, it’s just as you mentioned, I went to replays and couldn’t find the match I had with him. The cheats are scary enough but the fact they can get rid of replays is crazy.
You should rename this video - "here's the tool cheaters are using in sf6"
How is that any different
@@machoortv your title is focused on cheaters - but many don't know there's a tool that allows it, it'll pull more attention from lower ranks people like me, even if they aren't ryu mains like us
I paid $136 canadian for sf6 ultimate edition not $60 ever even cheap one was $90
Capcom needs to sue these cheat makers and the people who host the domains their sold on.
I feel I've encountered cheaters before. I've encountered people like iDom, Zhen, and FluxWaveZ in ranked and their parries, reactions, and guesses are really good, but I've encountered other players who almost always got perfect parries and guessed right every single mixup I would attempt. To the point where I thought it was suspicious because even those godlike players I've encountered didn't do as good comparatively. Sad to see there is scum that would cheat in a game like this. Actual scumbag losers I'd say
It's easy to spot a really2x good player between a cheating one. If they do same thing over and over against your unexpected but same attack, definitely there something off about that. Like this Solar Plexus Strike but got DI in 1 frame. Is there really a person who can always react fast against specific move?
I encountered few modern Zangief that always DI against my hadouken in neutral range.
Cheating in Battle hub is epic. Barely any real players there. It's so obvious when they guess correct all the time, tech every throw, auto counter every exchange. I still play against them but cant push buttons. It's too bad that Capcom cant do anything.
Dang i remember fighting the Elephant guy!!! thought it was sus but never thought people were doing this!!! 🤣
It’s really sad that someone would do this
The Dee Jay ones didn’t seem that suspicious just seems like somebody was just trigger happy with DI and kept getting lucky with the timing but all the other ones are definitely cheats.
Capcom should ban for good thoose players, and cancel their key of the game , thoose guys really s*ucks
I really hope they do
@@machoortv they wont unless the big names up there demand it its technically a crime to be selling a cheat to a game like SF so a lawsuit would be funny since they can trace his account
WTF Capcom? You make us sign a EULA before we press start in SF and this is happening? What doesn't make sense is that Capcom made a cease and desist on the guy who fixed the SFV online netcode! Meanwhile cheat sites are thriving! WTF?!
The part in the EULA that says and I quote, "You will not create Cheats or assist third parties in any way to create or use Cheats. You acknowledge and agree Capcom may refuse to allow You to participate in certain online play if You use Cheats in connection with the Service or Game. Lastly, You acknowledge and agree that Capcom may report your use of Cheats to the Third Party Platform."
Again, Capcom WTF?! DO YOUR FUCKING JOB! The people in this comment section paid you money and NOW you are not gonna do what you said to begin with? Screw us amirite?!
These are the blatant cheaters. There are the less blatant that can't be caught except if Capcom puts an anti-cheat on the game. And believe me, they are more common than you imagine.
Glad all this goofy crap is being exposed again. Some People love to down play it like "oh yall just need to stop exaggerating and learn the set". Meanwhile you could be beating said cheater trying to expose the BS that's out there. The sad thing is it puts a sour taste in folks mouths knowing clear this is a real thing from PC or at times console. At the same time it makes folks feel better seeing it so that it tells them "It ain't just in your head that you robbed in a match by some sus shit". players online trying hard to get good will beat themselves up over cheats like that because they think they just ain't ever gonna be good. That's why I still feel offline local spots are always better to play hard. Online you never know wtf you gettin
These cheaters are mentally disturbed because they are not playing the cheating computer doing everything for them and Capcom should ban those cheaters permanently.Becuse that's not fair to other players
I found out that most of the cheaters are using modern controllers. I wish we could choose to only fight with classic controllers in rank match
Thank you for making this video
My pleasure!
I just met a cheating honda player. When even i went for grab he was mashing light punch. When i mashed light punch he magically blocked. Every single time.
it can be cheating, but delayed buttons from him might also be responsible for that result, concretely delayed jabs and especially if you are not in front of his face from +2 to +4 frames in grab range when you attempt grab. You might be certain this wasn't the case and that was a cheat. I just want to point out there are some defensive option selects that explain that situation too. Get someone watching it if you are not sure. Greetings.
I don’t think that’s cheating
@@machoortv it is a cheat when everything is guessed right
They need to crack down on the mod itself and those who made it
Exactly
Expose these people let’s go
Doing my part 🙏🏽
I played this guy didn't know if he was cheating I just thought he plays super lame and practices perfect perries but the lag was super unstable but only to his benefit its a tell tale when the match is clearly laggy but the opponent wants to play again
Can you please (or somebody), tell me if there is CHEAT on CONSOLES for SF6? Ive played against a guy that tech always my attempts to throw. Is it possible to install CHEAT on console, or only on PC? Thanks!
No, there's rumors that they can make a PC look like it's a console, but I haven't been able to find hard evidence of that anywhere.
Console cheats exist.
@@Imvmad Not doubting you, but I haven't been able to track down anything as specific as the stuff shown in the video.
@@videoclunk4731 I thought they blocked that? And that thing just macros combos, IIRC. That's shitty, but ultimately way less problematic than auto-countering throws and DIs, auto perfect parry, etc. I play a strike/throw character with no high/low or left/right mix. When I run into these guys and they just can't be shimmied or thrown, it destroys the fundamental RPS of the game.
@@videoclunk4731 Cronus Zen. I thought I remembered seeing an article a while back saying Sony had introduced stuff to keep it from working on their hardware.
I wonder if capcom is going to crack down on all these cheaters
One of the reasons I always disable crossplay. So many Cheaters in the PC community.
Yeah i been seeing those impossible reactions at MR 1600+.
Check the symptoms I’ve described
Send him to street fighter 6 cheat detection special agent (Broski)
I would say it’s pretty confirmed
The additional exposure to his audience couldn't hurt
so I am not the only one that after having suspicious matches, they are nowere to be found in the replays.
I need to know why this happens, and if it actually is a consequence of Cheating or something.
If one is caught cheating, you don't just demote him, YOU BAN HIS DAMN HARDWARE, after they can no longer play on theyr machines, they willl think more than twice before thinking to cheat again.
maybe it is part of their VIP package to delete replays im not sure
This is why the arcade scene needs to make a comeback ❤🎉
Arcades are nice but inconvenient
@@machoortv so you're condoning this behavior?
@@J-gritty how did you even reach this conclusion????? Did you not watch the video?
I could tell he was cheating immediately. It’s funny people don’t believe players like this exist when they’ve been around since sf4
This could be a bot like they had Machine Guile in Street Fighter V
It’s not a bot it’s a real person using assists
I beg to wonder if they were any simiar cheats like in SFV but wish capcom cant prevent cheaters and send then rookie rank or perm bann
Tbh that’s why I don’t do cross play I stick to ps users
I think PS users can also cheat
This is funny lol. Winning is more important to some than others 🤣😂😂
Imagine paying 130 euros a month to win in a fighting game 🤣
@@machoortv I'd never......but I guess it's "goals" for some. Smh......strange times!
@@machoortv main problem is a lower price version that anyone can buy been selled this gonna f us up
@@machoortv they just gonna buy a week hit master with every single character and not buy it again
I only play PS5 people.because of this 😊
this happens there too
this is why im still playing ultra street fighter 4
Just Put all the Cheaters in their own special Servers, where they are only matched with Cheaters
What are they using to take advantage of such cheats? I presume it's only PC players who are able to utilise such cheats? 🤔
*EDIT* BTW, I commented ⬆️⬆️⬆️ before I had even watched the entire video because the knowledge that certain players are taking advantage of such things annoyed me. Many times I have become suspicious that someone is just too consistent with things. Now I know why 😡😡😡
I played against a Pc player today he was literally escaping all my Throws like if his throw tech was perfect I even was trying to gimmick but every single time I did gimmick he never felt for it like wtf he was definitely a Pc cheater that's why I don't like to play against Pc players.
I report after everything sus now I don't even give them the benefit of the doubt
You have to check the symptoms I discussed
These pc players are bold with these chests and they are quick to rematch you whether you win or lose smh I hope capcom bans these players
THANKS FOR EXPOSING CHEATER AND ALSO GIVING ME SOME AMMO TO BEAT CERTAIN CHARACTERS
You’re most welcome!
Maybe a cheater, I do use DI a lot as well, but it doesn't work all the time, that's for sure.
I thought you were tripping until.i watched the entire video lol
I played a cheater using Ed today it was crazy
Bro is using modern controls with scripts, so skilled.
Why play a fg if u need to cheat? Whr's the fun in it?
There is no fun in it AT ALL if you cheat
@@machoortv these cheaters need to be exposed & banned
I thought was going insane, these cheaters are ruining the game