John I just wanted to say thank you! I remember that you are one of the first TH-camrs that educates with cybersecurity. You are a true talent and very underated.
Cool stuff! As I already said in previous comments, I have Real Time and Cloud Protection disabled. The reason is that sometimes the process has some memory leaks. It eats 100% of my 32Gigs and I need the machine to be snappy. But if you're not having these issues or you're not finding yourself in one of the use cases John enumerated, DON'T DISABLE YOUR WINDOWS DEFENDER.
If you don't know what you are doing: DON'T DISABLE WINDOWS DEFENDER. If you know what you are doing, you do not download from any source but recommended or trusted, if you only use social media or office tools: DISABLE IT. WINDOWS DEFENDER IS A WASTE OF RESOURCES: Even if you execute a bat it does not help to protect your system at all, and there are so many trojans that are confirmed that bypass any antivirus even from a usb... so windows defender worths nothing.
For those of you that don't know how to undo what you did. If you read the description there's a link at the very top where you can see his text write up and you can undo everything you did...
This was a very helpful guide to kill defender. In my case I have an industrial CNC controller that runs on Windows. Not common I know, but the #1 best thing you can do is permanently stop everything running in the background possible. Since once it is set up there is no connection to the internet, I'd even like to permanently kill the firewall. Anything to improve latency and responsiveness.
Thanks a lot! *Quick note:* the first method kills the effectiveness of WDef, but still allows it to run as a background app (which can take up to 5% of your RAM, and that's why I came here lol). So if you don't want WDef's processes to run at all, you should do the changes in the registery editor as explained in part 2 of the vid, and then you'll get rid of these processes running.
As a car locksmith i use a lot of tools to edit EEPROM or Flash files. Al tho'se software are labeled as trojans or virusses wich are not. So to tuning off the defender is realy handy to me. Also from the Netherlands ;-)
There are a few caveats to this process depending on how much your organization has done to harden Defender with higher tiers of Microsoft Security licensing, UAC, and so on. Happy to answer questions on specifics in these scenarios.
Thank you so much for this video. A very easy to follow method on how to disable Windows Defender. Now I can test the malware I'm trying to make on my Windows 11 VM!
I always look forward to your videos John.. haven’t come across any other cybersecurity professional who can be compared to you. Thank you for all the knowledge you share.. I am new to this field, currently working as a sysadmin at a MNC and sponging all the knowledge how much ever I can to excel in it. God bless you with success prosperity and health! Thank you again :) Your big fan!
I wonder what happens once a Windows update occurs. Is Microsoft going to try to turn it back on? (Merely disabling the service is pretty easy to reverse, after all.)
Did the first step and restarted my computer now when i go to log back in with my pin it says something happened and your pin is unavailable. I click set up pin and it tells me i need to download an app to do it i click yes and it loops me right back to the same thing. What have you done man?
Hi, after doing this I can not download anything from chrome. Whenever I want to download anything its showing that virus scan failed. How can I fix this?
I was hoping this can help me install my software for work but it made me stuck to the log-in screen after the restart, and now I have to reset my laptop. 😭
I'd all but given up trying to turn defender periodic scanning off since I use Kaspersky. It re-enables every boot, I have disabled tamper protection and also disabled defender antivirus via gpedit but if I close gp edit and re open it, that disable config is instantly back to the default of "not configured" LOL. And the anti malware executable is always running. Latest Win 11 Pro, all up to date. So I will definitely give this a go. I use Emergency Kit as my secondary scanner, manually, once a week. I do not need Defender scanning in the background automatically when it feels like it.
For Some reason, I can't download files on my pc from chrome or any browser again. It keeps saying donwload failing because it can not scan files for errors
Hey i wanna to get back to the process, but suddenly is missing a registry key HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Sense\Start is not there anymore, any help without using the restoring point wich will cause me to loose many things i downloaded after then. ??
My host machine manages to stop any threats inside my virtual machines as well when I am playing around on it. It's really annoying, but I don't want to disable it on my host. Even through a deep scan on defender, it managed to find the "threats" in my ISO image for Kali.
Im using W10, I dont have the sense key in the registry. Is there a good guide somewhere which shows how to completely disable defender on W10? Couldnt find one. Thanks
I use a win11 notebook offline and havent been able yet to fully disable this annoying service. tried regedit, powershell deletion etc. still, the service is still active. hope your tut helps :D
Hey john great video gain just started to watch you not too long ago so don't know if you've done a video about the subject but if you haven't can you do a video on rootkits/bootkits and how malware uses these pieces of code to evade things like windows defender and other endpoint security? A UEFI rootkit named 'Cosmic Stands' named by the researchers who found it shows that hackers can if they wanted too backdoor the motherboard of a computer so even if the hard disk itself was removed from the PC the malware would just reinstall itself once it detected a new image of windows is being installed. I think it would be a good video to make. thank you again I love your channel
Hello, please advise; I have a software that gives me an error message Check settings for your Windows Firewall or Antivirus software. If Windows Defender is disabled will my software work?
Can this be done if my windows defender is broken? Meaning I cannot even open the Virus and Protection settings because it just says app cannot be found. There isn’t anything I can do to restore it to normal. Even a fresh reinstall of windows 11 didn’t help me
Quick question. If I already have an antivirus for which I pay for yearly such as Malwarebytes, is it fine to turn off windows defender permanently? What use does it have? Btw my aim is to save as much memory/cpu as I can for performance purposes
I read about this a few days ago and I've been wondering if this is worth doing to a DJ rig I've got going here then keeping it permanently off-line for processing efficiency?
Hi. Thanks a lot for this tutorial. It works for old Win 11 Pro/Home, but not for Enterprise. This method is not working for Win 11 Enterprise 23H2 Build 22631 2861 December 2023 x64 at all. Can you help? Would you, please?! Well, ... Solved it. Just use the main folder "Windows Defender" and "Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection" for it. It works.
In my opinion, disabling Windows Defender Antivirus makes sense when windows is running on a virtual machine as a "gaming console". In this case, after disabling Windows Defender Antivirus, we will gain a few frames per second.
rename windows defender folder in program data, rename the 3 .sys wd drivers in windows folder drivers, and in program files rename dll who start service in windows defender folder
Garbage! You still get notifications that defender is turned off and the turn off notifications is greyed out. It is disgusting that MS pushes this crap on their users and there is NO simple way to turn it off like any other AV outthere.
John I just wanted to say thank you! I remember that you are one of the first TH-camrs that educates with cybersecurity. You are a true talent and very underated.
He's very skilled and treats his fans very well
Coming back to this 7 months later, thank you John!!
Worked, idle ram usage from 35% to 23%. Thanks
disabling defender is really useful especially when having gaming vms
or vms that you just want to speed up
Cool stuff! As I already said in previous comments, I have Real Time and Cloud Protection disabled. The reason is that sometimes the process has some memory leaks. It eats 100% of my 32Gigs and I need the machine to be snappy. But if you're not having these issues or you're not finding yourself in one of the use cases John enumerated, DON'T DISABLE YOUR WINDOWS DEFENDER.
You should report the bug. Shouldnt take long to be fixed.
sounds like you need to do a bug report - I've never had the Defender process take anywhere near that much.
I Only have 8gb so I would disable it to save ram and cpu
If you don't know what you are doing: DON'T DISABLE WINDOWS DEFENDER.
If you know what you are doing, you do not download from any source but recommended or trusted, if you only use social media or office tools: DISABLE IT.
WINDOWS DEFENDER IS A WASTE OF RESOURCES: Even if you execute a bat it does not help to protect your system at all, and there are so many trojans that are confirmed that bypass any antivirus even from a usb... so windows defender worths nothing.
For those of you that don't know how to undo what you did. If you read the description there's a link at the very top where you can see his text write up and you can undo everything you did...
This was a very helpful guide to kill defender. In my case I have an industrial CNC controller that runs on Windows. Not common I know, but the #1 best thing you can do is permanently stop everything running in the background possible. Since once it is set up there is no connection to the internet, I'd even like to permanently kill the firewall. Anything to improve latency and responsiveness.
Thanks a lot!
*Quick note:* the first method kills the effectiveness of WDef, but still allows it to run as a background app (which can take up to 5% of your RAM, and that's why I came here lol). So if you don't want WDef's processes to run at all, you should do the changes in the registery editor as explained in part 2 of the vid, and then you'll get rid of these processes running.
As a car locksmith i use a lot of tools to edit EEPROM or Flash files.
Al tho'se software are labeled as trojans or virusses wich are not. So to tuning off the defender is realy handy to me.
Also from the Netherlands ;-)
There are a few caveats to this process depending on how much your organization has done to harden Defender with higher tiers of Microsoft Security licensing, UAC, and so on. Happy to answer questions on specifics in these scenarios.
I can't download anything from the internet now says virus failed to scan
Me too😟
Why? Cause it’s fun
Why? Why not
Why? Idek
Thank you so much for this video. A very easy to follow method on how to disable Windows Defender. Now I can test the malware I'm trying to make on my Windows 11 VM!
I always look forward to your videos John.. haven’t come across any other cybersecurity professional who can be compared to you. Thank you for all the knowledge you share..
I am new to this field, currently working as a sysadmin at a MNC and sponging all the knowledge how much ever I can to excel in it.
God bless you with success prosperity and health!
Thank you again :)
Your big fan!
Jhon thank you very much bro,you are the only one to come with the real solution to this issue
I wonder what happens once a Windows update occurs. Is Microsoft going to try to turn it back on? (Merely disabling the service is pretty easy to reverse, after all.)
Thanks it works 😅. You're a lifesaver
Your the Best bro.Really enjoyed watching the video,its very educative.
Your have my subscription and like.Keep the videos(tutorials) coming please.
its not allowing me to edit when i try to edit Security in platform properties
It works. Thank you!
What do the registry values that we changed do? Is it like permission numbers in Linux?
Woooow thank you so much for this 😊❤ I have been trying to permanently disable windows defender like for ever it was giving me a headache kmft
This is exactly what I'm looking for because I'm customizing VM for my malware analisys.
Hey John great video thanks for it man
Help i don't have the sense folder on regedit
bro its dead its freaking dead windows defender is gone for ever, I love you and I love your awesome beard thank you bro.
If anyone gets a black screen while booting into safe mode, connect the display cables to your motherboard instead of your gpu.
A nice follow up to yesterday's video
Did the first step and restarted my computer now when i go to log back in with my pin it says something happened and your pin is unavailable. I click set up pin and it tells me i need to download an app to do it i click yes and it loops me right back to the same thing. What have you done man?
❤ thank you so much, I have been looking for a way to delete or turn off this Ms defender , thank you so much I really appreciate
Hi, after doing this I can not download anything from chrome. Whenever I want to download anything its showing that virus scan failed. How can I fix this?
Thank you so much brother. It worked for me
Thank You So Much Bro You Deserve My Sub🎉
I was hoping this can help me install my software for work but it made me stuck to the log-in screen after the restart, and now I have to reset my laptop. 😭
This video was sooo much helpfull for window security thanks soo much guy you helped me out alote
Thank you!!! The first person that actually knows how to do it the right way!!!!
I am trying to disable on win 10 pro VM. Any steps for that ? I tried the ones found online but the service still comes back :/
I'd all but given up trying to turn defender periodic scanning off since I use Kaspersky. It re-enables every boot, I have disabled tamper protection and also disabled defender antivirus via gpedit but if I close gp edit and re open it, that disable config is instantly back to the default of "not configured" LOL. And the anti malware executable is always running.
Latest Win 11 Pro, all up to date.
So I will definitely give this a go. I use Emergency Kit as my secondary scanner, manually, once a week. I do not need Defender scanning in the background automatically when it feels like it.
can you make a video how to turn it back on, i can’t download anything now
John is so good. All around. I cannot.
Thank you so much, i was trying to get it uninstalled for a long time ago
New subscriber here. Thank you, I hope future udates won't enable defender again ❤
Alternative title: How to install Common Sense™ Antivirus 2022
You should revise this topic, my friend, because it is of no use, especially in "23H2" 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
For Some reason, I can't download files on my pc from chrome or any browser again. It keeps saying donwload failing because it can not scan files for errors
Hey i wanna to get back to the process, but suddenly is missing a registry key HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Sense\Start
is not there anymore, any help without using the restoring point wich will cause me to loose many things i downloaded after then. ??
anyway it works ,that mvp way is so simple and easy, thanks so much♥♥♥
You Are genius!! Thanks!!
You set WdFilter to 5, was that a typo for 4?
Because in 10+ years on home pc I didn't have no def, all disabled.. and nothing, just pure fps.. now will do the same and end that bs..
Love Lazyadmin guy!
yo encontre la forma de borrarlo pero este archivo es el unico que se queda MpOAV.dll y no lo pued oborrar por commands batch
My host machine manages to stop any threats inside my virtual machines as well when I am playing around on it. It's really annoying, but I don't want to disable it on my host. Even through a deep scan on defender, it managed to find the "threats" in my ISO image for Kali.
Im using W10, I dont have the sense key in the registry. Is there a good guide somewhere which shows how to completely disable defender on W10? Couldnt find one. Thanks
WdFilter you put number 5 why not number 4 like all others? You do by mistake? In other tutorials I see they put 4, I supose both works.
Can't change registry values in safe mode...
I use a win11 notebook offline and havent been able yet to fully disable this annoying service. tried regedit, powershell deletion etc. still, the service is still active. hope your tut helps :D
im turning it off for hacks
Lmao
For cof
Same lmao for cod
Hey john great video gain just started to watch you not too long ago so don't know if you've done a video about the subject but if you haven't can you do a video on rootkits/bootkits and how malware uses these pieces of code to evade things like windows defender and other endpoint security? A UEFI rootkit named 'Cosmic Stands' named by the researchers who found it shows that hackers can if they wanted too backdoor the motherboard of a computer so even if the hard disk itself was removed from the PC the malware would just reinstall itself once it detected a new image of windows is being installed. I think it would be a good video to make. thank you again I love your channel
Please help I did this as an experiment and can't figure out how to get it back on
Hello, please advise; I have a software that gives me an error message Check settings for your Windows Firewall or Antivirus software. If Windows Defender is disabled will my software work?
it just says fail and i cant make it to value 4
It worked well but I can't download anything now. It says failed to scan & that's it
It isn't letting me change the administrator for the platform file :(
Can this be done if my windows defender is broken? Meaning I cannot even open the Virus and Protection settings because it just says app cannot be found. There isn’t anything I can do to restore it to normal. Even a fresh reinstall of windows 11 didn’t help me
In the registry editor at the timestamp 7:40 sense isn’t there for me. It’s only Sens
Thanks it worked like you said slow down please thanks ✌
Great video! How do I show you to where you can go to downloaded a virus? Would enjoy to know what it does
Quick question. If I already have an antivirus for which I pay for yearly such as Malwarebytes, is it fine to turn off windows defender permanently? What use does it have?
Btw my aim is to save as much memory/cpu as I can for performance purposes
7:46, cannot edit start, error writing the value blablabla
Because of it blocking autosaves and progress in my Steam games.
Hey sir couldn't see sense option there is only sens not sense😔😔
I read about this a few days ago and I've been wondering if this is worth doing to a DJ rig I've got going here then keeping it permanently off-line for processing efficiency?
Is there anything anti virus that you would recommend over the windows defender
I don't go to sketch websites and my router has a firewall and antivirus built in. I want to try getting the cleanest Windows 11 for gaming.
Hi. Thanks a lot for this tutorial. It works for old Win 11 Pro/Home, but not for Enterprise. This method is not working for Win 11 Enterprise 23H2 Build 22631 2861 December 2023 x64 at all. Can you help? Would you, please?! Well, ... Solved it. Just use the main folder "Windows Defender" and "Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection" for it. It works.
Look at gaming related mobile malware
nobody notice he put 5 on wd filter start instead of 4 👀
man it keeps flagging and deleting my files, marking them as a false positive
this didnt work i couldnt download anything but i fixed the registry and i still have defender
👍Thanks John
Won't removing defender and installing Bitdefender be OK?
Wow super thanks dear
Look, I'm not gonna bother watching the video for context, the title says it all...I'm yeeting Defender because John says I'm safer without it.
(😀)
Is there a way to avoid going into safe mode and put this into a script?
I like yours photo on preview ahahaa
John, my PC doesn’t have a “sense” folder at that location (???)
Thanks for the tutorial. Can't I just disable it via group policy.
You're the best, love you .
Thanks man 😀
If i reverse the process you did
Will i successful to enable defender again?
I’m just tryin to run a non Microsoft program! This new laptop came in S mode . Hope it works !
In my opinion, disabling Windows Defender Antivirus makes sense when windows is running on a virtual machine as a "gaming console".
In this case, after disabling Windows Defender Antivirus, we will gain a few frames per second.
rename windows defender folder in program data, rename the 3 .sys wd drivers in windows folder drivers, and in program files rename dll who start service in windows defender folder
Pls, how can the whole process be undone?
Had to use registry option to get this to work.
great video!
how to get it back??
Thank You❤️
Garbage! You still get notifications that defender is turned off and the turn off notifications is greyed out. It is disgusting that MS pushes this crap on their users and there is NO simple way to turn it off like any other AV outthere.
thanks John !