RWBY Is Disappointing, And Here's Why
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
4:04 - The Histories of RT and Monty Oum
11:35 - The Trailers
19:26 - Thesis Statement
22:10 - OP
22:50 - Where Do You Even Start?
35:29 - Worldbuilding and Conveyance
53:31 - Some Positive Examples
59:40 - Insert Monty Fight Here
1:13:25 - Team CFVY
1:20:20 - The Importance of Characterisation
1:31:07 - Anime Homework
1:49:07 - The Faunus
2:06:55 - Keep Moving Forward
2:22:36 - Conclusion
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Rwby managed to do the impossible, peaking before it even started
That’s bullshit. I peaked before I was born, how else would I explain the never ending spiral of fuck ups that constitute my life?
@@malikoniousjoe No you peaked when you wrote that comment because that is when I became aware of your existence
@@endaburns2121 Oh… So you’re telling me the the never ending spiral of fuck ups was my climb up. *Now* it’s all downhill from here. Fuck.
@@malikoniousjoe
Exactly! :D
What in the hell did I just read 😅???
"A character fans love because her deal is she doesn't talk and therefore cannot be ruined by the writers."
This sentence is too perfect.
Cinder's characterization improves in season 4 because she doesn't talk. This isn't an exaggeration.
@@aleciad7218 nah she was still terrible. With neo she was never able to talk, cinder has been talking since she was introduced. Also cinders entire character during season 4 was "waa, ruby took my eye i want her dead waa!" And a full season later she has her chance and doesn't take it, like wtf?!
@@phantomnite this reads to much like the plot of TLOU2
@@Majinhero what?
now you have 666 likes.
RWBY is like if the story you wrote in creative writing when you were 9 was animated by a full production team
Hey, give them some credit! You would have to be at least a teenager to make a selfinsert get into love triangles with the "best girls"!
@@lozofspielereien8038 Wait, were you NOT doing that until 13+??? I thought it was a universal experience that all little kids had to pick which Sonic characters they were going to have fight over them in their imaginary innerworld story, like a starter pokemon??? (except for people who couldnt imagine one cus aphantasia idk)
@@jellifygirl W-Well... NO! Not on the Internet at least, so you can't prove anything! I was saved by being too sheltered, not even knowing wtf is a "Sonic"!
@@lozofspielereien8038That’s every teenage girls wattpad story though.
Ist there a thing thats basically that called "axe cop"?
The sad reality is that Monty Oum was an amazing animator and a truly skilled writer and storyteller...but he was a TERRIBLE showrunner.
No one who's genuinely serious about creating an animated series thinks it's a good idea to disappear for a week to animate a fight sequence that the rest of your team, who are already struggling to create your story, have to squeeze into the middle somewhere. That's just lazy.
And what's truly tragic is that I think Monty realised this mistake he was making, wanted to improve himself on it and be more directly involved in the production of the show going forward...right before he died.
I don't agree with this. Everyone I knew who watched RWBY at the start watched it for the fights. It would have never been as popular as it is without Montys fights. He did what he did best it's a shame the people around him couldn't handle the easier part being a story line that ultimately didn't matter
@@michaelmemering5079being a showrunner is managing the show what the original commenter is saying is that if Monty was only doing the fights and a more experienced showrunner was the project lead then the show would be better
"it turns out the way to get weebs to understand racism is to make the target a catgirl" i lost it
Hes not wrong
I simply can't dispute the facts shameful as they might be.
“so black people in the U.S are basically Fauna- no not the white claw ones- well you see they were actuallyfighting for-no the deep voices are to show you theyre villains-“
But in this case "weebs" are "guys given anime homework"... which is... worse
The White Fang and Adam Taurus did nothing wrong. They were just poorly written.
"I promise to never make anything this long again"
PRESS X TO DOUBT.
(edit) :3c
More like "Press X to hope it ain't true"
Tbh I like the longer videos. Was a nice surprise to see that time box, ngl.
These are the movies I look forward too!
X
X
Harris at the end of a 2.5 hour video: I promise to never make anything this long again.
Harris writing about James Somerton: *evil cackling laughter*
I mean, he did do a 3 hour video on Deus Ex before that
Edit: holy shit, I didn't realize that the latest video was even longer than that. It's almost 4 hours long! I watched it in chunks so I didn't notice it
Technicially he didn't make a video this long again. He made one that was longer.
@@elmerzcosta and the 4h video was that good made, I didn't notice the length until 3h in.
Oh, THAT is why I'm back here!
XD
I think the closest to this one in length is Roblox_Oof?
You know what's kind of odd looking back on it now? When I first saw the scene of the dust store robbery, the fact that they were even bothering to steal dust made me think "Oh, dust must be a rapidly declining resource and is now something worth stealing." This made my viewing experience for the next like 2 seasons very confusing because I was operating off of the idea that dust wasn't as available as it used to be and that was going to be a major plot point, which of course it wasn't.
The show not conforming to a fan fiction you wrote in your head is not a fault of the writers
@@Americanbadashh His internal fanfiction is better than anything dust-related we've gotten so far Lol
@@Americanbadashh The show not conforming to what it has been implying, however, should be. Should I be worried now whenever Yang gets punched or get hyped because it will fuel her to do something amazing?
When you accidentally trick yourself into thinking the show is better than it is 😭
@@Americanbadashhsounds like you’ve been snorting a lot of dust
in the immortal words of SarahZ:
"worst type of villain is ‘person who holds a fairly reasonable ideology that makes sense in context, but then a bunch of bafflingly evil stuff is added onto it in an obvious attempt to demonize that ideology’"
Bane, then?
@@SunlitSonata14272 Except for Kuvira; that time they did the reverse: they wrote a _fascist_ villain and added an uncomfortable amount of sympathy points to make her seem no different from the previous villains, even though her ideology actually *is* toxic.
@@matthewmuir8884 christ that show was a complete MESS, all caps required.
@@strayiggytv Yes, Legend of Korra is indeed a mess. Avatar: the Last Airbender was a team effort (Mike and Bryan as creators, and Aaron Ehasz as lead writer), and Korra is what happens when a member of the team is missing (no Ehasz) and the other team members try to go on without them.
Haven't finished the video, so don't know the context of this just yet, but arguably it depends on how you go about it. Radicals are a real thing, and every ideology has the potential to become 'evil' with a bad interpretation of how the problems the ideology seeks to counter could be remedied. Just because a show has a bad guy with a reasonable ideology, doesn't mean the writers are necessarily saying that ideology on its own is inherently bad. Of course there *are* also cases where the author is clearly just pushing some sort of agenda, but I find the generalisation of the 'worst type of villain' to be kinda wack.
Like, to give a generalised and popular example - Thanos (in the movies) is trying to fix overpopulation, because his homeworld got fucked by overpopulation. Now there are obviously ways he could have gone about fixing this problem for other planets, but he chose the radical decision of just culling off half of everybody. The writer doesn't do this as some kind of an affront towards people who have fears of overpopulation, rather to create a villain with more sympathetic and thus believable motives than just, grr i am bad guy, bad guy do evil thing. Now all that being said, Thanos isn't the ideal perfect example of amazing writing imo, but it's certainly critically 'better' writing than the alternative offered in the comic source material, where Thanos is just simping for the godess of death or something
*EDIT:* Aight, I've just got past the White Fang part. My point still stands, uh, kinda. At least it still stands against the SarahZ quote. The White Fang seem to have been written as a Faunus-rights turned Faunus supremacist group - which I think is a valid writing point. I think the reason it's bad isn't because a sensible ideology is being 'demonised', rather because they're using racism as more of an empty plot point. Radicalisation of an ideology that is otherwise sensible can be written well, it's just that RWBY doesn't write it well. A just cause without a just means is a villain concept that can work. As hbomberman mentions, there's just a lack of nuance to the situation and the ideas it brings up aren't really explored meaningfully (I think in one of the later seasons they expand on this a bit more, in the arc where Blake returns to her hometown, but it might be a bit late at that point).
Basically, I don't think the 'bafflingly evil stuff' is an inherent problem, and I was gonna say something else but I've forgotten it now so uh-
"I promise to never make anything this long again"
Harris Bomberguy lied as easily as he breathed
Hbomberguy really lied? No dignity.
Wil E. Coyote style rabbit holes are fun though, ngl.
and i’m happy he did 😌
He didn't lie. The Deus Ex video isn't as long as this one.
It's an hour longer.
@@AugustSequoia now if that ain’t a loophole if I ain’t seen one.
Hi, Im Tommy Tallarico . But what you might know me best for is that I created the famous “Boop” sound for RWBY.
My mother is very proud :)
That's a strange way of spelling Joey.
@@fools_opinions Touché
omg tommy !! werent you the audio director on the show too ?
@@Robin-of2jtAbsolutely, in fact Monty was such a huge fan and we, I mean I, created the sounds and the monty planned the fights after hearing my audio. So they were animating to my audio. Sooo cool. It took about 5 years.
How can you make a character based on Sokka, who is literally a genius and becomes a strategy expert in his own right, and make that character so dumb? sokka wasn't dumb, he was dismissive and disinterested yet chose to follow her little sister cuz he needed to protect her? like even in the first episode you see his priorities and you see his courage. god, avatar was so good.
Yeah Sokka's kinda hard to argue being dumb cause he's more often than not the voice of reason
He was basically western Usopp
don't worry, in season 4 they arbitrarily decide that Jaune's "the strategist" so they managed to keep ripping off Avatar at the expense of the characterization they have written
@@GrayFox_74 Oh my god you're so right
@@errwhattheflip Sokka has 10 points in Intelligence but only 2 in Wisdom
"It's a really good show to write a wiki about." As an ex-admin on the RWBY wiki.... that hit me square in the face XD
Did you add "weapon: Trumpet" ?
@@TheTexasDice Unfortunately no, I had moved away from editing by that volume, I did however start the Inconsistency pages. And help with a lot of the initial formatting and layout decisions.
@@laurenmahony7619 Wow. That's really neat.
@@laurenmahony7619 nice to meet you
@Nate It's definitely a unique position at least, so the surprise seems warranted.
Broke: stopping the video to watch the red trailer
Woke: stopping the video to watch Cowboy Bebop Knocking on Heaven's Door
Bespoke: stopping the video to rewatch all of Avatar the Last Airbender
Terrance Kling How come the X in the show is silent?
wokest: stopping the video to watch the first 14 seasons of red vs blue
@Terrance Kling ew bad
Masterstroke: stopping the video to watch the entire series of Cowboy Bebop including the movie.
Edit: not a joke; I'm on episode 3
Seems like one of the roots of the problem was the creators never coming together and building a script in the same room. Having blank sections of the storyboard that just have [Monty action scene!!!] is the definition of an unfinished story.
I've never heard anyone put the problem so succinctly
100%. When your lead creator and animator just wants to smash action figures together you're going to get a shit story
Yeah totally! This entire time I have been thinking about having a show Bible being what they needed. Like even going so nerdy as having actual character sheets attached to those concept art panels they had for the characters.
Yeah totally! This entire time I have been thinking about having a show Bible being what they needed. Like even going so nerdy as having actual character sheets attached to those concept art panels they had for the characters.
And now it looks like the story will remain an unfinished story. At least as far is the actual show goes. No V10 Green light. RWBY likely done. RT is broke.
If the RWBY writers got the chance to name Flynt's weapon they had like a 50% chance of naming it the Ghetto Blaster
LMAO that's actually pretty clever
The Slew-is Harmstrong
So fucked-up you gotta laugh
Is that a Miraculous Ladybug reference?
Damn, I can't believe they shot an entire anime in VR Chat
Basically
I’ve seen vrchat abridged shows better than RWBY volume 1-3
That animation.... I tried giving the show a try, but it fucking sucks, except the fight scenes. And when it finally got good, it went to shit. Sucks man.
@@yabazyabacoffee hey, those were the good seasons :(
@@Enchie yeah, the animation is what killed my interest in it
"Oh no, she talks like that?" Literally everyone's reaction.
Yup. "Wow I love these badass characters! I wonder how they'll interact?"
*the most nasally YANG Ive ever heard*
"Oh god no..."
anime voices make so many good shows unwatchable for me
@@miles4939 Literally same
At least with a lot of good English dubs you can accept the voice if the VA is passionate enough. Seam Schemmel is the voice I hear in my head whenever I read Goku talking in the manga.
Seeing Ruby in that awesome trailer, I would not expect *that* voice to come out of her.
@@li-limandragon9287 although in hindsight Ruby's nerdy/nasally voice WOULD kinda work for her if the show maintained her characterization as a massive weapons nerd, which hbomber mentioned they did not.
Even the song writer wrote a better character for Ruby. Red Like Roses tells a story of a girl who is tormented by the death of her mother so much that she’s arguing with her mother beyond the grave about why she left her to fight instead of living to raise her. You don’t get this grief and sadness from seeing Ruby? At least not in the couple of seasons I’ve watched all the way. It would’ve least been interesting if Ruby was a character that hides her pain behind a smile?
Hard agree. For example, the songs of Ice Queendom tell closer things to the character ideas, motivations and ways of thinking than the actual story.
I think this is why i love the characters so much, not because of the actual writing, but because i really like the music, and it gives so much insight to the characters when compared to said story writing.
RWBY should've beed a musical instead!
Why I still call RWBY the CLWEMV (casey lee williams extended music video) bc I keep up with the show to know the basic lore for the songs
Between Warner dissolving Rooster Teeth, and Netflix remaking Avatar but surgically excising Sokka’s sexism to make the show less “controversial,” this analysis has become more and more interesting.
"Jaune is Sokka but without the overcoming misogyny plot line because Miles Luna didn't want to make his self-insert character a misogynist" is so galaxy brain
@@eren34558 Tecnhically, he never does learn to take "no" for an answer. He repeatedly asks Weiss out despite her rejections and backs out only after watching her asking Neptune to be her date. So, yeah, there's no scene where Weiss tells him "no" and he agrees to stop pestering her. It looks mostly as if he's recnognizing the presence of another man, rather than aknowledging Weiss' feelings. The entire dance arc seems hell-bent on making Jaune looks like the offended part, with a few characters encouraging him in his pursuit of Weiss and complimenting him for what a great guy he is, despite evidence of the contrary, especially in this context.
@@eren34558 Yes, I noticed, and I really appreciate him for that, but that doesn't asnwer the point I made: there's no scene where he is confronted by Weiss and learns to take no for an answer. After giving up on inviting Weiss to the dance (again, only because he sees that she's interested in Neptune), he goes to the party, talks to Pyrrha and gets complimented for how great he is for not putting her on a pedestal (despite the fact that he did and that nobody else among the main characters treat Pyrrha in a special way).
Then he confronts Neptune, gives him some sound advice about just being himself and gets congratulated again for being so great.
At no point Weiss is included in the discussion. For all we know, he gives up on Weiss because he feels sorry for making assumptions and hurting Pyrrha, because he starts having feelings for his teammate or because he doesn't want to step on someone else's turf.
Also, what about "chasing women in general"? Aside from a few glimpses in the first episodes with Ruby (the nice, quirky girl to talk to) and Yang (the shot with the onesie), he only showed interest in Weiss. He was never a skirt-chaser to begin with.
@@eren34558 I mean, I don't really hate "RWBY", it's just that particular arc that irks me. But I also haven't read all the comments, so I don't know how much hatred is going around.
@@eren34558 You're the one whose face and name are out in the open, what drugs are you on? lmao
I honestly felt Weiss was the worse party between the two, but both were in the wrong somewhat. Weiss was more or less a misandrist bitch to Jaune even when he tried to help her early on.
She acted coldly to him in her early judgemental attitude whichfueled Jaune's poor self-esteem issues and made him crave the approval of someone he wanted acknowledgement from.
You notice how Jaune never interacted nor pointed out Weiss worse character traits and only focused on her good traits? He deluded himself and only focused on Weiss' talents and virtues to the lack of anything else.
He admired her, and she put him down due to her own poor attitude.
The more Weiss put Jaune down, thinking he only wanted her for her family name due to her father, she fed into his self-pity and desperation to try harder and he went in the wrong direction.
It was only after Weiss met Neptune (who is ALOT like Jaune) that she learned that she was projecting her father onto someone who honestly didn't deserve it, as Yang pointed out at the start.
Meanwhile Jaune grew out of his self-hatred with Pyrrha's help, finding acceptance from someone else. He became willing to act like himself and stopped trying to be someone else.
Weiss and Jaune fed into each other's worse traits in a representation of a toxic relationship, and grew once they reconciled.
The whole Weiss-Jaune sub-plot was a continuation of their character development and tying up loose ends (though it still felt open ended).
Weiss became less of an unintentional abusive misandrist, and Jaune (briefly) learned to value himself.
...Before the ending of Volume 3 undid much of that development.
I would've honestly liked a final scene between the two at the dance. Weiss apologizing to Jaune and promising to become kinder to him as a friend and Jaune rejecting a dance to spend time with Pyrrha.
Me, who has never seen a single episode of RWBY: Hell yeah I’ll watch 2 and a half hours of this.
In the exact same boat, I'll consume whatever content Hbomberguy puts out regardless of what it is haha
Honestly I much prefer it to listening to him roast something I know and love!
...same tho. ☺
Same. I just want to know what people see in this show.
I'll even watch it a second time, don't try to stop me
I came into this video, a huge rwby fan, ready to either have a good laugh about how bad it can be at times or be pissed. I left it heartbroken now realizing just how good it could've been.
Happens to the best of us buddy
Not me though. I'm not the best at anything
i respect that.
i started to look back at RWBY and some of its poor writing upon a few rewatches to show some friends and every time i realized the show wasn't as good as i thought it was
then V6 came out and I had finally dropped the show. after the first 3 episodes i was done with it and felt the rest was just bad overall
Everyone on the production team deserves better writers than miles and kerry
The day Monty stopped smiling is the day we remembered his smile ♥
@@gamerule18 so become just "great" at everything then, nerd
Haha jk
Unless
Yeah. Same.
I may not agree with all of his criticisms, but Hbomberguy makes a lot of extremely valid points.
Although I think the entire essay really emphasizes why most of the show's fan's are fanfic writers. We love taking the potential of this show and these characters and turning it into the show we really wanted.
if they "needed a sokka character," why not make one of the main girls that character? it really seems like all the women are generic anime women whose arcs are 2 seconds long, and then the men get personalities & character arcs (poorly written but still present).
Yep! I guess they didn't realized Sokka was part of the main cast and NOT a side character with too much screen time
Oh sure, but which character could've even theoretically filled that position? It's not like one of their four lead characters is explicitly written as incredibly inexperienced, invested in doing the right thing regardless of difficulty, a natural leader, and would also have a lot of things to learn now that she's been accelerated into a position she would otherwise have been too young to fulfil. There's probably not a single person in the cast who could take the place as the normal-knees addition to the super team who then grows into the pivotal role they've been thrust into.
God, now I kind of want to see what Ruby would've been like if there was some sort of "it's bad for kids to unlock their aura before the end of puberty, so we unlock it in their last year at Signal Academy" plot point. She would surely be aware of aura, but could still be in a position to get a quick on-screen cliffnotes summary from her dad/uncle before they unlock it for her to get her ready for Beacon. Not being able to use it to its fullest potential in a fight could be the reason she steps back and starts coming up with off the wall strategies for the Giant Nevermore fight, it would give weiss more of a reason to resent being placed under her, give Ruby a reason to react with "uh...what?" when someone uses their aura to lift a shield from twenty yards away...okay, hang on. This started as a "What if Ruby was the main character of RWBY" joke, but now I kind of want to explore it.
@@VorthodWiler the thing about characters is that you can write them however you want, so they could make it any of the characters and just write them to be inexperienced, doing the right thing, and a natural leader. believe it or not you can plan stories with your writers' room & then choose to make the characters whatever people you want them to be, so if you want to include a kind of character, you can make it one of the main characters by doing it.
@@Pinkstarclanoof.
I haven't watched this show, but Weiss is in no way generic, and she has quite the arc. My good friend Paul has told me all about this show, and he always made sure to mention this fact in our many conversations on the subject.
"The show frequently threatens to suddenly become good" is definitely the best summary of RWBY I have ever heard
That is sadly true there were so many times the show could've been more interesting only to go nowhere or to scrap the idea later.
The ending of season 3 and the ending of season 7 are peak rwby. but almost every time it becomes genuinely good, it's good by accident, or good because of something the writers didn't expect. Then they ruin it.
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@@l.gsmith8411 that's the thing, just like what he said the ending of this vid, the viewers standards are based around those "accidents" and it's hard to impossible to replicate accidents.
@@wvn9957 sometimes I feel as if the writers were to take a step back and look at well written actual reviews of the season (not angry bullshit) they could easily analyze why watchers liked the season and what made it good. The ending of season 7 is was an amazing season because they actually wrote a REALLY well villian who was actually sympathetic and liked. Then they RUINED it because they didn't expect watchers to actually sympathize with him and understand his point of view, and just made him do evil things in the first damn episode. We need a whole rewriting of the show. Maybe rwby brotherhood, because it has so much damn potential but the writers just keep taking L after L when it comes to writing the story.
I don't even know what RWBY but I am absolutely sure in 2 hours, 27 minutes and 24 seconds time, I will have very strong opinions on it.
literally me with the sherlock video omg, like I've never watched it but now I can have like a pretty good conversation about it, acknowledge it's flaws, what it did well, and the bits I like about it lmao. Like Hbomb just like DELIVERS when it comes to analysing media
This is a actually so me
Every. Damn. Time
So what are your strong opinions?
@@SgtDax wait so, rewrite Adam so that he's instead like an incel that got rejected and was so upset about it he joined the anti Faunus stormfront and pledged to destroy her life (and also her people)?
His bad dialogue suddenly becomes weirdly more believable.
The obviously better thread of rwby does weapons, makes one for John D'ark (I know.), Even granting some extra ship teasing between ruby and jaune. And stuff like throwing herself into it, or being burned out and not feeling it, are threads that could help show the character during some of the later seasons. As well as letting them switch up a couple weapons more easily and gradually, rather than sudden random blacksmith, then atlas upgrades for all.
the description of rwby as “a show that would be really fun to read the wiki of” is so real. it’s also a great world to use for a dnd campaign too!
I'm convinced by the view count of the actual episodes and the fierce defenders that most fans do just consume fan and wiki content rather than the episodes
It's also a good show to watch an hbomb video about
The attempt has been made, and it's really not deep enough for that. It's a great setting for a alright fighting game series.
I've actually just read the wiki so I could get into RWBY fanfiction 😂
Son, you were named after the two bravest men I know, Sephiroth Dumbledore
Better than Severus any day
RWBY fans: Wait it's all Avatar?
hbomerguy: Always has been.
Its mostly avatar. If it were all Avatar, then it wouldn't have Cowboy Bebop The Movie's Opening, Soul Eater's weapon, or Naruto's tournament arc climax.
They WISH it could be avatar
HOLY SHIT I'm wheezing, someone please make this meme.
Avatar had a plot. That's the difference
@@zuulmeister8409 looks like someone didn't watch the video, or RWBY, or Avatar
"People aren't going to buy your Boop shirt if they're sad about racism." And yet Avatar managed to tackle genocide AND racism while still being a fun, enjoyable show.
Genocide, xenophobia, politics, abusive parents, grey morality of war, dealing with death, intricate human relationships, and hope when everything seems to be lost. Everything tied neatly in a child-friendly story with excellent execution.
Again, the writers of RWBY just picked things they thought was cool but didn't understand why. And from the end result, we can assume they didn't even TRY to understand the source material.
@@TwilightWolf032 Dave Filoni's skills ma man.
I don't remember the racism part.
@@parasemprealice5684 Neither do the writers, that's why they turned Adam into a crazy-ax ex-boyfriend - they forgot he was a freedom fighter XD
@@TwilightWolf032 Ok, but can you tell me the racism part?
"Your book, does it have a name?"
Well... yeah, Ruby, it does. Most of them do, actually!
(Sarcasm aside) I think it's a dialect thing. I ask questions like that where it would mean, "What is its name?" because I wasn't taught to ask things the way they're meant to be interpreted in social situations, rather hope it leads to them answering the question that was intended. Which usually works unless they want to dodge the question.
@@Laully I don't think many English speaking places are *that* indirect and high context with their language.
This feels like a line they'd give Yang. If they had, that scene probably would've been actually a funny, at least a little.
@@TacticusPrime It might just be bc I'm neurodivergent & others' reactions to things tell me something different from what I'm supposed to be getting from them, then. My family sucks at communication, so not much to go off for me. And maybe I just notice when people want more info than they're asking for more than when they want something direct.
in her defense, if the clip shown is accurate, she isn't GIVEN the name of the book in that scene, so maybe it didn't have one!
The quote at 1:45:00 and the stuff about Miles and Kerry mimicking things from anime without really understanding why what they were mimicking was good reminded me of a bit from Down the Rabbit Hole's video essay on the chess computer Deep Blue:
He mentions how at one point, scientists and programmers fed a computer a bunch of high level chess games in an effort to teach the computer what to do. The result was that the computer would immediately try to sacrifice it's queen as quickly as possible, because those games it was fed often featured a player sacrificing their queen to achieve a winning position. But without the context, the computer just learned "if I sacrifice my queen, I win".
"To explore seasons 4 and beyond, we'd need a whole other video"
Oh nooooo, how terrible it would be to have another massive length Hbomb analysis to watch
I'm gonna level with you as someone who was a big fan of the series: everything in this video is 100% true and the first three volumes are the best the show ever gets. In fact, they retroactively get better once you compare them to the later volumes
@@IosLocarth I really need that Hbomb video now, I didn't care about RWBY at all but now I need to know how the show declined as more volumes were released.
@@zayalabi9080 It's....something
@@zayalabi9080 I mean at the very least the volumes aren't that long so it's easy to binge. But yeah I'd also like to see him tear the next several volumes to shreds
noooo please no, it took him like 5 months to make this one. Its magnificent but I miss his semi-monthly videos.
“To talk about the problems with volume 4 onwards, we’d need a whole other video”
Well, don’t let that stop you
Between that and the presumably still planned video about how good Marty's work is that would be a lot of time spent on RWBY.
And yet I wo
@@madhackrviper I, too, wo.
@@madhackrviper probably won't get it with roosterteeths content Id restrictions. This video almost didn't air in its entirety because of it. Not to mention the additional time and money hbomber needed to get around any copyright claims
YES! RWBY Is Disappointing Part 2 when?
So we might see that video sometime in 2035, probably around the time fallout 5 launches
I sometimes forget that Ruby Rose is supposed to be a sniper yet she uses her sniper like it’s just some big bolt action rifle.
A sniper with superspeed? No wonder she is so "special" and broken... When does she actually do any sniping?
In all fairness, I think that part is intentional.
@@lozofspielereien8038 if you watched the show you'd know when
@@Americanbadashh How would you know if I didn't watch the show? I do recall a few "long distance weak point shots", but they never really looked like she was sniping. If people even forget that she is supposed so be a sniper, then it is a flaw of the show. As is your lackluster response that has no chance of persuading me otherwise since I do not plan on rewatching the show.
@@lozofspielereien8038 I feel it’s more so an excuse for the writers and animators to make scenes look cooler since, “LOOK AT HER!! SHE’S USING HER GUN TO PUSH HERSELF FORWARD!!” I just feel they should’ve just had it be a shotgun or an assault rifle with how much she uses close range shots instead of y’know, BEING A SNIPER AND HANGING BACK A BIT.
Today is 2024 03 06, about 12 hours since Rooster Teeth announced the company was shutting down, and 3 and a half years since this video was posted. The Red trailer currently sits at a touch over 17M. The subscriber count of the Rooster Teeth channel is at 9.02M. The top four videos on the channel remain in the same order, with Angry Birds at 26M, the RvB S8 Tex fight at 18M, and Let's Play Minecraft episode 1 at 17M.
13:00 I was *checking numbers* D:
Woah
Therapist: “CGI hbomberguy isn’t real, he can’t hurt you.”
CGI hbomberguy:
Those aaarms. 😬😰
2:15 it's just PERFECT
For the message it sends
@@DaeZey
Arms? I can't take my eyes off that face! I'm afraid it'll eat my soul if I look away!
@@Ramsey276one 19:26
@@fluffy-hellhound I am getting there, OK...
the thing that really drives the nail in the coffin for Yang's semblance is that it's really easy to see a correlation between getting hurt and being angry. If they had just decided on it being anger from the start it would've opened up loads of pathways for arcs discussing questions like which kinds of anger it includes (what if she's upset with herself?), if it applies to other strong emotions and whether using pure anger to fight is effective. I personally have imagined an entire arc where she screws up bad on a mission but becomes much stronger in fights, only for it to be revealed she's actually using internalized frustation and anger at her own mistakes or helplesness and has to realize how that isnt healthy despite the power boost. A character who's power is linked to strong emotions is just begging for awesome character development!!!
it’s been a while since i watched it but i thought they did that? didn’t they have that whole arc where yang learns when and how to use her anger in a constructive way?
@@richieordeanidc536 no. essentially, they told her she's over-reliant on her semblance because "it's a glorified temper tantrum" (despite this never being an evident flaw in her fighting prior to this) and repeatedly told her to use it less, despite her never being shown to use it any more than anyone else (bar ruby and weiss; w ruby hardly ever utilising her very-useful semblance and weiss actually being the one who over-relies on her semblance - summoning, specifically). this arc didnt really touch on her alleged-anger problems (beside a few comments here-and-there), instead forcing yang to just stop using her semblance all out; something that we never see applied despite the arc being concluded.
this is a common problem within rwby, wherein they'll get stuck on what arcs to give the girls and arbitrarily create flaws for them to *fix* (not work around or adapt to - it's always "fixing" said-flaws), despite the writers' lazy storytelling actually organically creating flaws for the characters (both personality-based *and* action-wise) that will never be acknowledged or addressed. another example of this is the "ruby needs to learn hand-to-hand" conflict which was materialised out of the blue - ruby had actually been shown to be entirely-fine at h2h in every instance prior to this, but the writers randomly decided that she's too reliant on crescent rose and needs to learn h2h in the event that she is unable to access crescent rose (which was only ever a problem *once*, in the very ending of v8 and active in v9; which took place long after she'd already "overcome" this non-existent flaw of hers).
funnily enough, *weiss* (again) is the one who shouldve had this arc as she is *constantly* finding herself unable to access myrtenaster and rendered-useless in battle (since she's the one who's *actually* shown to be incapable of h2h). regardless though, the writers' insistence that every flaw must be *fixed* is what irritates me the most. ruby was never shown to be left wo crescent rose in battle (at the time) and even if she was her semblance is literally *perfect* for tactical retreats in the event that she's defenceless in battle - instead of wasting ruby's and the audience's time learning h2h, they shouldve dedicated that arc to her mastering her semblance and acclimating herself to using it in battle; that would address an *organic* flaw w ruby's character, freshen up her combat and make it more interesting and versatile to watch, address an interesting character flaw of hers wherein she clearly has some sort of hang-up ab retreating (qrow v tyrian, for example) *and* would allow her to finally explore the possibility of picking up and transporting multiple people w her semblance like we're teased. but no, never, not in *my* 3d abomination. the people only want to see jaune - the real main character!
anyways the point is that, whilst yang's "anger issues" were never an organic flaw that was present in any of her fight scenes prior to its conception (because her fighting style was literally based off of a strategic, defensive style utilised by monks), they couldve made it an interesting arc regardless if they had written it as u suggested; yang learning to use her heightened-emotions constructively. however, they certainly did not do that, due to the writers' inability to allow their characters to maintain recognised-flaws; instead instead going w the boring and nonsensical plot line of yang being forced to just hardly ever use her semblance because "flaw = bad and bad = must be purged"
Video essay lengths have inflated so much that I was thinking "I kinda wanna go back and rewatch that really long RWBY video Hbomb did" and then I click on it and it's only two and half hours.
it has peaked when one of my other favorites, Whitelight, did a 7 HOUR Death Stranding essay, or with Pyro's Utopia video
This viewpoint surprises me even if I can understand it. I'm sad this video isn't any *longer*, like his Roblox and Plagarism videos were, though maybe that's just a displacement of still waiting for the follow-up video on this topic he teases twice.
i watched (read: listened to) a ten hour video essay on how flimsy harry potters worldbuilding is
Now I'm really sad that RWBY isn't about a weapons-inventor girl
Technically it is
@@justanotherchannelonyoutub126 but only technically :(
@@justanotherchannelonyoutub126 we're tired is seeing RWBY be "technically". We want it to be "definitely". A show can't just be technically good,it's either you like it or you don't or some weird amalgamation of an emotion inbetween.
@@azirul9311 whoop there it is!
I feel like a lot of what makes a story successful is the way it sets up expectations, and how it delivers its payoffs.
ideally, you want people interested in a work, but with their expectations relatively low. if you can pull that off, you have the opportunity to really blow your audience away. this is why a lot of my favorite media has beginnings that seem really quaint or simple before they escalate. what's unfortunate about RWBY is that it kind of gets this backwards. the trailers are really good, and they set your expectations sky high for what the show will be like. then you start episode one, and _that's_ when things get quaint, simple, low stakes, and goofy. not what you had primed yourself for.
picture for a moment, a world where RWBY didn't have those trailers at all. the show began with episode one after having been hyped up primarily via word-of-mouth before the release. now, you can imagine some fixes within the show itself if you want to... but ultimately what we're dealing with is a story about four teenage girls who meet each other at magical monster hunter school. the tone is light... it hasn't really tipped its hand as to how good it might get yet. some might even think that all it ever aspires to be is a slice-of-life school drama. but then let's say that one of the fights from the trailer is integrated into the show, (or at least a fight of similar quality to that), as a climactic moment within the story.
up until this point, your expectations had been set at somewhere around the level of "background characters are just shadowy silhouettes" and "dust cloud with fists and stars flying out of it = two characters fighting" but now? the show just bumped up its standing with you a LOT in a very short amount of time. that's when you start hounding your friends to watch this hidden gem you just stumbled upon. you get to feel like you yourself have struck gold.
but then the trick going forward, for the people making this show, would be to not spend all their good ideas in one place. a truly good idea is one that makes the _writers_ excited to see more of their own creation. an audience trusts an author the most when they consistently prove that they, as an author, are interested in what they made for the same reasons as their fans. you might not know what the author intends to do next, like, there can be a lot of crazy shit on the table... but you can believe that the author is more interested in using the avenues they have, rather than ruining any part of the core appeal.
I think RWBY just jumped the gun (haha) with its big action set pieces. it put the cart before the horse.
Imagine you’re just watching avatar and zuko shows up in frame wearing a “That’s rough buddy” T-shirt
never seen avatar and never plan to I’m confused
@@nyorri3490 do yourself a favor and watch it. Surprisingly well done for a kids show
Meyene Etuks
Exactly. It was meant for kids but people of all ages watch it, it’s on Netflix.
@@nyorri3490 Without going into spoilers, It's basically a meme in the community that stemmed from a conversation about loss, and since Zuko is characterized as being terrible with emotions all he can think to say is "that's rough buddy" when confronted with the character's problems.
@@nyorri3490 if you never plan to watch it shouldn't you just ignore this comment? why would you feel the need to tell us that?
55:44 in the commentary on the dvd Miles and Kerry say that their head cannon is that team RWBY had a sleepover to decide their team attack names….. YOU ARE THE WRITERS! PUT THAT IN THE STORY THEN
The show writers should not have a HEADCANNON WTF?
I love Harris's jabs at the "I love books!" line
I was in the RWBY fandom very young, too young to see literally all of the problems with the writing, and yet I was still frustrated at the fact that Ruby and Blake barely talk to each other, compared to the other main characters
I haven't seen all of the show, or watched it in years so I don't know if that's changed ... BUT how do you write a show that's supposed to be about four main characters, and two of them don't really... talk??
Haven't changed. 9 volumes in and these two STILL barelly interact! But they still found the time to give JAUNE a ton of screen time still
@@isabelaalves4511 I should've expected that
Monty dressed like an anime character all the time, and I respect that
I like the rooster teeth comics where he was always wearing an animation suit.
his fashion sense gave me a real Tetsuya Nomura vibe, which just feels so appropriate
Most impresive is that he managed to pull it off without looking cringe.
Its so cringe tho
He truly... Was a chad.
>A video about why RWBY is disappointing
>It's only two and a half hours long.
"Wow, he must've talked fast."
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Well to be fair, he only focused on Volumes 1-4.
@@pentbot So the full thing would be 6 hours long?
@@an18yearoldmongolianguy
more :)
@@pentbot he focused on volumes 1-3 actually. He touched on 4 a little but he also said a little about 6.
But tbh, 6 was probably the better of the post beacon arc stories. They had a lot of good shit, like the apathy for example, a concept that only really worked in a horror like setting. It made that episode a lot more engaging and enjoyable. Its the one example of rwby doing something right. I just wish they dedicated more episodes to this horroresqe style. Maybe even making the whole show more horror themed.
RWBY really does exude the specific type of 'feminism' that Fairy Tail uses, which is that "Pyrrha is really powerful and that makes her a strong female character".
Like I'm not going to say they're specifically bad female representation or anything, the show's gone on long enough that plenty of people have their moments. But it really does come off weird for such a supposedly female-centric show when Pyrrha's whole arc is having her interesting arc being shafted so she can be fridged for a guy that spends the rest of his plot being sad about how his girlfriend is super dead now.
I mean, shouldn't this be the other way around? Shouldn't Pyrrha be the one that thinks she has everything under control, but then the Maiden delimma pushes her to a breaking point and then Jaun's death shoves her over the edge? Maybe have her develop trust issues after being used by both sides of this conflict and you could actually explore how this stuff effects her? You know, like an actually fleshed out female character???
But nah, real strong female character writing is when your female character dies for a man or when you realize your dad's not so bad after he hits you, or when you have a character no-talk their way into a relationship out of nowhere because it's what the fans want. But they're all physically powerful, and that's what really matters, right?
"Fairy Tail" has way more than "character is strong, feminism!" Erza is a complex character; she's more than strong and pretty. She hides her pain behind the literal armor she wears as a shield. Also, you clearly haven't read all of "Fairy Tail". Erza and Jellal don't get together, in fact he LIES to her and says he has a fiance, but he's technically an escaped criminal who doesn't want to drag Erza in it.
As for Lucy's dad, he never hit her, and he also has an arc of his own. At no point in the manga does Lucy just forgive him because 'reasons'. He loses every cent he had, becomes a literal hermit and begs her for money, only to get irrationally upset with her. He then joins a guild and starts actually working, and after the time skip, where Lucy was thought to be DEAD, continued to pay her rent for her apartment and sent her gifts for her birthday, and sent letters to her every day, saying how he's back on his feet working at a railroad company, and that despite the news, knows she's okay and hopes he can see her again. Lucy doesn't just forgive him. In fact HE dies a month before the time skip ends, and Lucy discovers all this and breaks down into tears reading his letter. He changed because while he did bad things, Lucy confronting him, as well as his bankruptcy, realized how important she was to him.
That's more than anything "RWBY" ever did.
I think that's another case of RWBY rotely copying Avatar: Jaun is Sokka, therefore his girlfriend needs to become the moon so he can be sad about it.
@@cousinted The goofy thing is that Sokka's whole deal is part of a character arc where he struggles with sexism, overcomes it, and then when he finally clicks with someone he has to trust her enough to let them go. There's a whole thing there with a follow-up to it in The Swamp.
With Jaune, Pyrrha just dies and then her being fridged turns into a generic motivation to get stronger. Which isn't the worst, but it feels like it's just a waste of what could have been a more unique setup.
In before people start blaming Hbomberguy for the closing of Rooster Teeth.
Me too
O shoot rooster teeth is finally closing? Hope they dont bring RWBY down with them
@@nekoteru24 Spoiler alert: yes
"Imagine if the first time anyone said 'bending' in avatar was 14 episodes in" is such a funny mental image
The fourteenth episode of atla is "The Fortuneteller." The previous episode is "The Blue Spirit." The next episode is "Bato of the Water Tribe." This is AFTER the winter solistice!! In the fourteenth episode they bend a volcano so it doesn't kill everybody by working together! Can you imagine if that was the first time they mentioned the word 'bending'? Can you imagine if they never talked about the world or explained it until that moment?! Oh there's uhhh Ice Land where people have water powers. Now we're in Rock Land where people have rock powers. Aang has both air powers and he's started learning water powers don't worry about why he can do that or who Sozin is. There isn't anywhere they're trying to get to they're just touring the world. There might be a war? Maybe? There's some destroyed buildings in the background. They never say bending until 4 episodes before the season finale. No airbending waterbending earthbending firebending as common words with known limits plus magic spirits. God. Can you imagine?
Bringing up that Fry was frozen for a thousand years in season 2 of Futurama
@@EddieSlabb Mentioning briefly that Leela's the only one of her kind and she's never met another like her in season three
@@unu9651 Also I, Zoidberg am not from this planet why not? And also on this, the eve of Fry's Opera I must let you know that I have been an internal medicine doctor. WoopWoopWoop
@@EddieSlabb God. Yeah that'd be... something.
Hbombs review scale:
Garbage
Disappointing
Genius
I mean, based on how much, for instance, video game reviews give 7/10 (or the equivalent) and above, I think *everyone's* review scale is "Garbage - disappointing - genius".
EDIT: for games, I think the scale is:
10/10 - genius
9/10 - disappointing
8/10 - garbage
7/10 - the Internet yells at Jim Sterling for not liking Legend of Zelda enough.
I think those are the only three ratings worth talking about for over an hour. Like, I'm not talking for an hour about a better marvel movie
@@oddtail_tiger What about people giving The Last of Us 2 1/10?
Aka:
-5 million/10
2/10
∞/10
And "measured response"
for anyone here 3 years later: casey lee williams actually does her own music now!!! also she was only 12/13 in the trailers which is NUTS. theyre a wildly talented vocalist.
I know the video is already 2 and a half hours, but I was surprised that when you spoke about the Faunus, you didn't mention the fundemental problems with Blake's character.
She talks to Sun in Menagerie about how this land that was given to them is so difficult to live in, and that it's something that was given to them to effectively shut them up, and because no one wanted it because it's overrun with Grimm.
They do this sitting in a fucking beach front bar, sipping fruity cocktails... And then they walk across this island paradise, with massive roads wide enough for multiple cars, looking at the houses in this beautiful place, saying how they all live on top of one another... Not only is that not the case as we are literally being shown the wide open streets and single story huts, but the crown fucking jewel is when Sun asks "Which house is yours?".
And then she points to the HUGE FUCKING MANSION in the middle of the settlement, with room around it for fucking attached grounds...
And that's what I mean about Blake's character suddenly breaking... She's not the victim of racial prejudice, because this instantly turns her into a spoilt rich kid who's acting out against her daddy... Which I guess you can make into something with regards to character, but it completely broke the character for me.
And then when you actually see Atlas and Mantle later in the show, where Faunus are actually living in seriously difficult conditions, in virtual slums, ACTUALLY STACKED ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER, she comes off like such a massive privilaged bitch - ironically mirroring Weiss a lot more than I think they ever intended...
He mostly focused on the first 3 volumes for this video. I wouldn't be surprised if he was saving that strong criticism for a possible future RWBY video that spoke about the disasters that were volumes 4-9. Of course, it's good that you also pointed this up, along many other fans who kept up with the show, but that scene is from volume 4. He probably was also planning to criticize harshly the Argus, Haven, and Atlas arcs, especially the episode With Friends Like These and the terrible volume 8 finale, which combined with volume 9 pretty much killed the show. But well, only time will tell if he will make another video to criticize the post-Monty volumes or the Rooster Teeth company as a whole.
blake was giving "jaden smith" throughout rwby's entire run
Amazing that Monty didn't want to bother writing the story to RWBY, but continuously does a better job of character writing DURING his fights than the writers can.
they really should've just given him a storyboard or something. 👊😔
Miles and Kerry didn’t know enough about writing to understand story mechanisms. I doubt they play the same games as Monty. Having a unique power per character is stupid in terms of reusable assets.
But Monty would also disappear and create a new character without telling anyone.
Also, three writers without a main show runner? Come on.
You also needed to sync with Monty’s workflow which was all local files. So showing not telling might have been arduous.
But the writers came from red v blue-they didn’t understand storyboarding. They were strong in jokes and dialogue and bro humor.
Also episodic television resets characters, the writers didn’t know that. Rick from Rick and morty reset himself after every episode; his acholicism is to support this story mechanic.
This is why shounen manga have tournament arcs. The central story question for every character converges-rather than braid.
Cowboy bebop isn’t the best story to learn from. Tragedies are really tricky.
He didn't write the details but he did make a basic outline for the story and where he wanted to go with it from what I understand.
It really feels like they meant for RWBY to be a fighting game and just didn't realize they could do that.
@@PhoenixFireZeroI mean, they kiiiinnddaa had a fighting game? That had rwby as one fourth of a crossover and was how I learned rwby existed (I don’t remember how good it was but it’s called blazblue crosstag battle if you’re interested)
RWBY's fandom can be summed up by recognizing that we don't like RWBY itself, but the *idea* of what RWBY could and should be, and suffering through it not being that.
Thats probably how most fandoms go with shitty source material. There wouldn't be a fandom otherwise.
Yep,the people that like the show now are weird...but the people that like RWBY concept are different. Like is bizarre thing that there is this split in the fandom that never will be solved.
I feel attacked right now
This is why rwby chibi and the fan comics better
I've watched the entire series and after watching this, I completely agree. RWBY needs a complete reboot or rewrite to be anything. It wasn't a show, it was just mindless yet mindblowing action. However, if they choose to give RWBY a second and better chance... I think we need different directors and writers. If they're trying to fix it, then time to go the DC/Marvel route kill the universe, recon, start over, and learn from the mistakes.
Calling the Animal people Nation "Menagerie" is like calling a City for Black People "Coonville."
It's like, did a racist come up with this name?
Shit, I wouldn't even be asking this question if RWBY didn't make itself about fantasy racism!
Scotland is derived from a racist term I believe. They adopted it and made it their own. It's a fun way to mess with the enemy. Like how the Greeks wore skirts and helmet plumes so the Parthians would laugh at them before getting killed by said Greeks.
@@warlordgank1318 Man, I would’ve loved to learn about that during History class.
… … …
Learning that Scotland is a racist term was not on my bucket list.
But it’s certainly a welcome addition to the back of my mind.
@thyavenger9517
The Gaelic people gave Scotland its name from 'Scoti', a racially derogatory term used by the Romans to describe the Gaelic-speaking pirates who raided modern day England in the 3rd and 4th centuries.
Menagerie can also mean a diverse collection of certain things, witch is tbh a nice name for a place wgat supposed to be a refuge for a lot if different people. Like, I know that the handling if racism in the show is bad, but that doesn't mean the writers are racist. It mostly means they are bad writers who dodn't think trought the possible implications of at first sight cool concepts they include
@@i.cs.zamodits You are misunderstanding me. What I meant was, "Did someone racist against the Faunus come up with this country name? Because it seems like a fancy way of calling the oppressed kemono folk all animals, which is some racist BS no matter the universe."
The show doesn't suggest that CRWBY is racist, just ignorant, much like you have said.
“She’s so pretty. She’s so pretty. She’s so pretty.”
Keep it in your pants,
bro.
Not weird at all that they saying this while making her 17 years old. Nope not weird at all.
so, so, fucking creepy.
Strong incel energy at that point.
We all know deep down the real reason the Faunus exist was so they could have cat girls in the show
i fully believe that
Isn't that pretty much on the surface though?
No kidding. I saw right through that when that happened. It was so obvious there that I was sort of surprised they didn't make the bunny girl a _bunny girl_ .
@@KibblezanBitz Monty had semi-decent rule for RWBY in that he was extra iffy with the idea of sexualizing underage children. His ground rules were basically - least questionable outfits possible, no panty shots, etc.
Coincidentally seasons after Monty's passing suddenly have those 15 year olds in corsets, butt-capes, with boob windows, etc. Oh and giant blue naked lady at one point. Oh and yeah in spite of going to cold climate region with snow and storms and the like - nobody got more clothes because LORE REASONS.
"So, uhhh, we're gonna do racism but, umm, it's catgirls that are gonna be oppressed"
Hbomb's tombstone:
"This corpse is garbage, and here's why"
Underneath is a carved QR code that links to this channel
@@dontminchinit2656 His last video is just a live feed of his grave for all time.
HBombs last video is going to be him as a 90 year old man complaining about how death itself sucks and shouldn't happen. and om his tombstone there will be a QR code linking to that video.
"Hbomb no longer makes videos, and here's why"
and the dates of his life and death will be directly beneath the 'why'.
Honestly that "did you miss me" at 2:13:33 moment is such nice bit of charactarization. They both smile when Crow says "nope" which implies that they have really close connection and that Ruby knows him and his type of jokes and probably even act extra annoying to play with it. Like that's how child and their uncle would act. Honestly rare RWBY W
I agree. I always liked that moment.
If she didn't have that kind of connection with the guy who helped her make "the most dangerous weapon ever designed", it would have been an extra big fat L instead. But I have to agree: Brillinatly executed. Luckily enough, it was too difficult to make a shirt out of it.
I assume you haven't seen the show and only guessed this, because yes, you're entirely correct. That's just how good most of Qrow's characterization is, at least in his introduction.
@@marcfyre I kinda saw it a while ago when there was only 2 seasons. So even though I knew about the show a little, all Qrow stuff is new to me
It’s really sad how even three years later rwby is still disappointing and only cares about crossovers and merch instead of making an actually good story
Like, it's enjoyable, abd the random is great, (i might have a soft spot for bumbleby) but the show was never, and will never be actually good.
“Rwby isn’t a show it’s a template for fan fiction” I can’t remember who said it, but god damn if they weren’t right
Sometimes, fanfic is a love letter to the source material. And other times it's just a "Fuck you, strongly worded letter to follow".
For real, the RWBY in my head that I take away from the awesome visuals I saw on screen is the RWBY I love, not the show that was actually written. Like Reese Chloris, a character of so little note she's not mentioned, is my favourite RWBY character, because I saw one animated fight and attributed personality traits to her that made me connect...but in reality...she's a blank slate with a skateboard gun.
@@PBScene The fact that a fight was able to make you connect to a character that appears for less than 1 minute in the entire show is a pretty great feat in storytelling lol.
The worse thing about writing is when it doesn' t make you feel anything.
Some fics about RWBY are unironically better.
John O'Hara Fanfiction flourishes when based on series that are “theoretically interesting” it’s an amazing phenomena for sure.
honestly, RWBY has always felt like reading deviantart roleplay about other people's OCs that I don't know anything about
Extremely specific yet.... extremely accurate
it really does feel like a 16 person rp where everyone is trying to take it in a different direction lol
Pretty much
I have seen roleplaying settings with better storyline than RWBY
And it’s the really crappy ones to where the main characters have to be right all the time, get bullshit power ups out of nowhere and anyone who bad mouths/disagrees with them might as well be another Hitler.
Well, now that Rooster Teeth is folding in its entirety, I'd appreciate a full company autopsy report. Please and thank you.
“Imagine if the first time they said ‘bending’ it was 14 episodes in”
Episode 14 of Avatar: The Last Airbender is The Fortune Teller, where a psychic tells Katara she will marry a very powerful bender and Aang tries to prove that it’s him. (This episode takes place AFTER the entire Jet saga, btw)
That idea is so psychotic it's hilarious. Imagine Aang being so down bad for Katara that he invented manipulation of all 4 elements just so he could fulfill the prophecy of hooking up with Katara one day?
Honestly that makes it even funnier. Imagine the first time you heard "bender" in ATLA was when some random tells Katara she's going to marry one. And then you learn that everyone but Sokka is one! Utter madness.
Ah yes, my favorite Anime, RWBY: The Last Bebop: Legend of Bleach x Hunter on Titan and the Sorcerer's Stone vs. Blue
thank you, that is what i’m calling rwby now
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.
& Knuckles
Featuring the Chunin Exams from the Naruto series.
Featuring the trains of Baccano
Soul RWBY: The Last Bebop: Legend of Bleach
"Young adults don't tend to walk around with entire speeches about how their world works prepared in case someone asks."
Well, clearly, we lead very different lives.
@@aaronmedders4141 you choose a bad time
Honestly, I could have given a decent synopsis at that age.
@@aaronmedders4141 we got water,
Pyrrha does because, even if she is a teenager, she was basically groomed by Ozpin to be the best Huntress in the academy, and even a Maiden. In fact, the entire sub plot in the "school arc" is that Pyrrha is so great that every student puts her on a pedestal, which means that others respect and even revere her, but are not her friends because they either feel inferior or in awe of her presence.
Jaun is basically the only one who doesn't treat her like this, because he clearly doesn't know even the basics of the world he lives in and he doesn't know who she is. But even that is kinda excusable because, he clearly doesn't even know what his Semblance is, because he finds out much later, while being taught by Pyrrha.
On the other hand, Jaun summarizes the Aura exposition in layman's terms as a "forcefield" but Pyrrha, being taught by Ozpin and having taking that seriously (and her lack of friends), tells him exactly like she learnt it. She didn't have time to have fun and joke about with her friends.
@Naukumaija Mau-mau Even if writers haven't had their exact stories laid out in their minds, we didn't know (at that point in time) either. So it was hard to be critical of it because the facts weren't all there. Obviously, now is too late to fill in the holes because the story has progressed beyond the highschool topics.
i can summarize this video in one sentence.
the rwby nsfw subreddit has more members than the sfw subreddit
And the fanfictions are (probably) more developed than the actual plot.
God, R/RwbyCritics never shuts up about it.
It really feels like the writers (and Monty a bit) are the type of anime fans that are literally only here for the cool fights and entirely check out for the actual plot and characters. The ones will refuse to watch anything character-driven if it doesn't have cool fights in it because its the only thing they care about. And then, since that's the only part they are paying any attention to, they don't know how to do the rest of it or why the rest of it works.
Bruh this is especially telling when they say “we wrote the female characters and didint even think of them as female” and then go on to skeev on them and write themselves into the story to have relationships with them.
Bingo
Reminds me of a friend who showed me an anime "Valkyrie" or "Ragnarok" something, where it was a bunch of mythological figures fighting that he thought id be interested cus i liked mythology, and i literally fell asleep, 1 cus I was a bit sleep deprived, 2 he quite literally skipped everything that was not a fight, even then being anime they were extremely drawn out (into manga myself) and 3 i was tired of him pestering me if i recognized any of the figures in the fights, most of which i could not because most were completely different from their myths and typical characterizations
@@Brian-tn4cd Oh Record of Ragnarok? I love the manga, I acknowledge it's mythologically inaccurate to hell and back but goddamn it's some fun junk food. Anime isn't great though, sorry you couldn't get into it.
@@johnhawes2262 tried the manga since id always read online it was better, still couldn't get into it, not my kind of junk food to use that metaphor
Monty Oum wanted nothing to do with the writing aspect, and yet he was the best writer on the team. YIKES
EDIT 12/15/2020: holy crap I never meant to start anything. I love this show, don't hate it what-so-ever, but I can still recognize faults within the plot and writing. I hope everyone has a good day and in the end, remember this is just a show PLEASE.
He was in charge of a lot of the most complained thing like faunus subplot, introducing maidens, focusing so much on Jaune, so no he was not the best writer
@The Doge-Emperor of Dogekind the worst part is some characters and character traits wouldn't even exist without this plot (which imo is very poorly handled).
icecontrol1 Monty created the Faunus, miles and Kerry shitted on the plot point, Monty made the maidens, miles and Kerry introduced relics which low key invalidated the Maidens and Jaune is literally a insert character of a man who writes the show
Arigadia
Jaune’s basically Miles’ outlet to fulfil his weird crush in Pyhrra.
satan word and he changed what would have been Jaunes biggest mistake in the series because jaune was supposed to cause Pyrrhas death, plus that would have made v5 better 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
"we need a Sokka"
Oh so you want to include a character who despite being comic relief and powerless in a world with super powers is incredibly talented, smart, and works incredibly hard in order to contribute to the super powered friends he's always around? Because that's who Sokka is, not just the butt of every joke. He has no bending abilities but is smart enough to beat a bender who's power is never even explained using a boomerang and quick math. He helps develop the first hot air balloon in the world and is partly responsible for the airships that develop afterwards and was smart enough to utilize water bending to design the first ever submarines after seeing earth bending be used in similar ways (trains and the mail system in Omashu). He's the one that was trusted with planning the eclipse raid despite being with more seasoned soldiers.
"we need a Sokka" and then making a clueless comic relief idiot tells everyone that you don't understand what makes Sokka so special despite being in a group with a water bending prodigy, an earth bending prodigy, a prince who's destined to change a nation, and the literal chosen one destined to save the world. Because without Sokka, the group wouldn't have had a route to take. Zuko's assassin would have killed the group. The eclipse raid wouldn't have been as effective and the retreat wouldn't have gone as well. Airships and submarines might not have been developed as fast. The fire nation armada wouldn't have been stopped.
Fucking preach it, brother. People don't get how awesome Sokka is.
Maybe if Jaune had been written as having this heritage and these expectations etc. but also been written to not have a semblance? But he still really wants to go to the RWBY hunter school/ends up getting in somehow (faking his way in like he did in canon I think Hbomb said)? I'm kind of stealing that from "Sky High" and "The Dragon Prince," but it would be... something?
@@sholem_bond Or just straight up rip off Avatar - Jaune is the only guy in big family and feels like he has to be better than his sisters to protect them. He's not the best, but he tries. He goes to Beacon without Aura unlocked because he feels smothered in home. Then you can have nice growth plotline in Beacon, where Jaune makes himself into good Hunter. Maybe tie that to "weapon maker" side of Ruby, let him be not the combat-oriented but strategist, researcher, aura-expert, something like that.
@@signer0001 Not to mention he should be actively participating in class. You can't have a character who wants to live up to familial legacy that literally does not make any effort in class at all. It would make more sense if Jaune was struggling even while trying hard and then lashes out at Pyrrha after that.
@@ApexGale Fucking exactly, "I have to learn all this myself otherwise what am I good for" and then they show him NOT LEARNING SHIT AND SLEEPING IN CLASS.
God, writers contradicting themselves makes me so angry.
And it also could've been nice setup for the conflict for Jaune and Pyrrha - him trying his best but failing , and her being combat and school prodigy that makes it look easy, which reminds him of home where sisters were always better than him, therefore making him hate her offers to train him.
...Frustratingly enough, this does explain why some of the fanfiction surrounding the show works so well.
1:28:48
"I'm not saying this is plagiarism. Creative theft is a different thing entirely,[...]"
Holy fuck, Harris foreshadowed his own fucking video 3 years before
Masterful writing of the Hbomberguy storyline
I will never not laugh at someone calling naruto “boruto’s dad”
Bossa Bassa He seems like an interesting character, I’d definitely love an anime focused on him and Sarada’s dad, would be rad.
It will never not be funny lol.
@Gmoney 12 Yeah, we know.
Boruto's Dad and his Army of Frenemies had me dying. 😂
yeah but the boruto anime is finally following the manga canon and is now 1000 times better
Imagine if My Hero Academia never said the word Quirk until episode 14 when the main character, who had a whole arc about getting a quirk, suddenly got shocked that someone else had a quirk, at his quirk-based school.
RWBY is a show about people who use powers to fight and they are shocked when someone uses powers to fight.
Wow that is certainly one way to recontextualize things huh.
I'm putting that one in the vault.
My guess was always that Jaune just didn't know what a Semblance was because his family didn't have Semblances either (much like how most people in Remnant don't have Semblances or have their Aura activated by proxy. Sort of like how everyone has chakra coils in Naruto, but not everyone knows how to use them or what Chakra is because they haven't learned about it. With that, and the fact Jaune is clueless about a lot of things and had to fake his test results to even get into Beacon, I found it to be somewhat believable that he doesn't know what a Semblance is. Otherwise, he could've just asked his parents/siblings to activate it, since they would presumably know about it as well otherwise... right?
@@whichcache2517 It also goes further than just Jaune. When Phyrra uses her Semblance to move Jaune's shield, Ruby and Weiss are ALSO confused for some reason. And they HAVE and USE their Semblances regularly. It doesn't make any sense why the writers would have them be baffled by Phyrra using an ability when basically everyone in the world has one including them
(This isn't to disagree with you to be clear, I do think what you said could be some form of explanation, this is just a note that the writers somehow messed it up with their own Main Characters as well)
@@shay-la-vie Oh, I just thought that was because they didn’t know what her powers were, so they were confused when they were trying to figure out what she just did.
Obviously though, they could’ve explained this whole Semblance/Aura thing better, earlier, so that we wouldn’t need to ask all these questions about what certain characters know.
@@whichcache2517 Yeah that definitely makes sense. It just feels kind of clunky when the point of the scene was supposed to be something else and they ignore it for ~Exposition~
I had exact opposite expectations for Jaune as HBomb and was just as disappointed. I was hoping for a character surrounded by fantastical weapons and magic... and he has nothing but a standard sword... and he's so good he holds his own.
He doesn't know how aura works; his weapon doesn't transform into a gun; and he doesn't have a semblance.
Yet he's such a good fighter that he gets into this school and kills monsters.
Instead we got...a disappointment.
_sigh_
He isn’t good, he faked his way in, which doesn’t make any sense as to how he was allowed to stay when he clearly demonstrated he was not only inept in combat but he wasn’t taking the classes seriously.
@@thomasraines1396 Yes. That's what actually happened. I was describing what I was hoping for/expecting when the character was introduced.
I edited the comment slightly to hopefully make that clearer.
@@BFedie518 oh alright sorry.
I was big into RWBY back when it came out (I was in middle school), and the thing that I will never get over is the design for Velvet’s combat outfit. They had a contest for fans to design what she was going to wear, they had like 1300 entries, and they picked the ugliest possible one. I remember actually feeling insulted when I saw it for the first time because I thought it was so lame.
YES, SERIOUSLY!! LMAO I was so stunned with the one they picked cause it was so ugly, boring and plain. And the final version is EDITED, they changed the original entry's color from turquoise to brown like her hair, which somehow made it even worse
@@lambs5258 I just don't understand how, in a show *about* colors, they make her outfit just... brown. Like come on
Dude Velvet's outfit is fine
weiss being a racist heiress to a slave-owning corp and blake being faunus could've been potentially so interesting but any conflict arises and is solved within a few scenes and the two barely talked the rest of the time i actually kept watching. how boring
Yeah Weiss just sort of gets over her racism and the two go back to never speaking to each other.
It's the Crash problem: boiling systemic problems down to personal beefs allows (relatively) quick and easy resolutions. Then no one wants to revisit said beef, much less the topic itself, because that would look like "undoing their character development"
Really, though, treating a systemic problem like a systemic problem allows you to have characters make up, but then grapple with the fact that these issues are bigger than them and the implications thereof
@@vidmuncher it’s not even undoing character development I don’t think, they later say it’s all her family’s fault while acting like she was never a racist.
It's like what would happen if you let Tumblr Teens actually write a series, it's like "we want to explore serious issues buuuuuuut can we not have any actual conflict??"
Voltrons ending sucked but at least when it reveled that Keith, without knowing, was part of the race that killed alluras entire family, friends, and race their relationship as friends was clearly affected and they did have to have a confrontation about it even if in this situation both sides are understandable/sympathetic.
Allura's not wrong for not trusting/liking someone from a race that ruined her entire life and attempted to murder her
Keith's not wrong because he didn't know, nor did he choose to be that way
Also, I've just realised why Jaun is so frustrating in the early series: He's written as the protagonist of one of those Isekai Harem anime. He's clueless about the world he's in, has virtually no skills, he has only a single random trait that makes him exceptional (big aura boy) that he acquired with no effort or personal sacrifice, and a female love interest that, despite being dramatically more competant than him, is inexplicably in love with him and prioritises his growth as over her own, so that he can take centre stage in the story, a place that by all logic would belong to her.
Yep!
Granted, I agree with everything you say, but what’s the problem with him having a lot of aura? I don’t think you can train to have more aura, that’s just something you’re born with in RWBY.
@@MultiBoxingKid nothing wrong with it in particular, but that the only quality that makes him able to stand with the other characters is some random quirk of circumstance. Other characters had to train for most of their childhoods, specialising in their unique skill sets.
Isekai protags are usually compentent though(battle/strenght wise). Like they get love intrest because they're sooo OP and save them or whatever. Your listings sounds more like a romance anime where the protag is an average joe who somehow gets the hottest girl in school imo.
The only problem with him knowing nothing is that there’s no justification. If he had been a really sheltered kid who only found out recently that he’s descended from warriors, it would make sense. Kids growing up not knowing shit happens in real life all the time. Homeschooled kids, kids who live in really closed off communities or cults, kids whose parents keep them away from society because they’re paranoid or angry. There’s an entire spectrum of isolation and harm that that does, and they may have been able to explore that but unfortunately they chalked up his ignorance of the world to just… being stupid? I guess? They once again had a good idea and fumbled it almost impressively
I've got a 10 week old kitten that sat still and watched this for at least 45 minutes. He's never sat still that long while awake.
I liked it quite a bit too.
Coming back to this video after having watched like years ago. The fact that they could not come up with more fairy tale / folk lore inspired names for characters, despite how many of those stories exist, is quite honestly baffling to me. How the fuck did they end up running out of names to the point of naming some girl after Nyan Cat 😭😭😭
I've always guessed it wasn't them running out of ideas as much a it was them thinking they were genuinely cute, funny or clever for putting a Nyan Cat reference in. I obviously don't need to tell you they were wrong, but it'd line up with the mentality that's behind the rest of the show - a huge string of references to dozen of other things the creators just happened to like, wrapped up in their own artstyle and world, connected by the tiniest bits of substance.
I've barely ever heard of this show and don't watch anime in general but I find it hilarious that the fight scenes look so good, but the rest of the show looks like it was made in VRchat lmao
OH MY GOD SOMEONE PUT IT INTO WORDS!
I guess thats them staying true to their machinima roots?
i was literally thinking "damn this looks like some vrchat world i stumbled upon in a fever dream"
Fans have done their own episodes in VR chat that actually look WAY better than the first three Volumes.
Thats what turned me off to this in the first place. Its not cgi animation theres a touch more amateur to the movements. I'm thinking could thry not afford a cgi animation packet it looks so bad! Especially the backgrounds, looking at you.
“I didn’t watch Monty Oum’s RWBY to watch Miles Luna’s Avatar”. I think out of all the scathing comments I’ve heard on this show, I felt that one. Wow.
I've read better fanfiction than what these two jokes of a writers managed to pull out of their asses and the whole WOKE pandering is just pathetic.
I read this comment just as that was being said!
@@SunlitSonata14272 It's not terribly Avatar like, but it is great.
@@SunlitSonata14272 There are a lot more than these two shows that have all these things and more in common (Nevermind that there is really only one matching character dynamic between the two of them).
@@sebpaul3548
Ain't that the truth. They are actually really good. Like some of the best fanfictions I ever read. And has quite a bit of originality and creativity.
Speaking as a fan of RWBY, "I think it needed a second draft" is pretty much the fandom's - sorry, the FNDM's - motto, lol.
Blake being the beauty and the beast reminds me of that one ever after high character that was the daughter of red riding hood and the wolf but she had to hide it
I never watched Ever After High,but "Daughter of Red Riding Hood and Wolf" sounds really interesting ngl
@@chudak190it's not mentioned much, and is central in only about a single episode/movie as 2 characters fight against eachother; one trying to uncover the secret to the school, the other helping redwolf as she does sports
Honestly what makes the Faunus Racism Subplot even better was just how Season 5 resolved the whole thing.
Blake essentially tells the oppressed minorities that came to this place to avoid oppression that it’s their fault they’re oppressed because they aren’t nice to humans and don’t police themselves enough.
Truly a remarkable tale of prejudice and systemic oppression.
What slum? The Faunus all live on a secluded tropical island paradise. They’re not the aliens from District 9 who live in an actual slum. Aside from that yeah it’s really fucking hilarious that one of the main characters (who’s whole thing was her fighting against her people’s oppression or at the very most being vocal about it happening) turns around and says it’s all their fault.
@@thomasraines1396
Yeah you’re pretty right on that. Slum isn’t exactly a good word to describe it.
@@cretinouscretin9677 what makes even worse is Blake is basically a princess as she’s the daughter of the former head of the White Fang.
@@thomasraines1396 and they it has toxic creatures on it but not once have we seen any and never imply that there Grimm or not.
@@animefan2454 I think it's meant to literally just be Australia, same place on the map too.
Why RWBY sucks: people who don't know how to write, write.
Basically it. It turns out that, although he only did it visually, Monty was the only person capable of writing.
I get the impression that for all of them, making a real show, working daily and crunch with people who aren't your best friends, was too big a step from non-corporate Halo days. When we see these people IRL, they are showing many, some times childlike, methods of self-soothing at all times. The need to wear a hoodie and have ones hands in the pockets, and probably flipping up the hood as soon as he's off stage, for example. They spend all their time making a show "trying to be anything but itself," because that's how the writers are actually living. They do not have the nerve to put out original concept even to each other, because criticism hits them far too hard for them to handle.
onlyAerik That’s really depressing actually
@@onlyAerik It's kinda weird to psychoanalyse people for writing a show poorly and for having a few habits you view as childish.
I dropped the show right when Pyrrha explained Aura to Jaune. That expository scene was so clumsy and terrible, I knew the writing was going to get worse. I was right.
The show has the potential to be good, but it needs to be rewritten from the ground up.
The dialogue is fun. The characters have fun conversations and the fight scenes are awesome. But that's all. The world building is kinda broke and the retconning is so easy to spot that I, I WHO SUCKS at world building and shit, can see where they retconned in bad ways.
It's crazy how dedicated the fans of this show are. My ex gf was huge into it, and I was for awhile, as well -- but after V9 started, I just didn't feel it anymore. I expressed a lot of the sentiments from this vid and my own frustrations with the show, just talking to her, and she got like, morally offended and extremely hurt. I felt so bad, but she took deep offense and was mad at me for disliking the show at all.
So she was just an average RWBY fan then. Someone who just can't take ANY criticism of the show. I feel more sorry for you for having to witness your friend sink to an astronomical LOW.
That’s kinda unhinged ngl
@@anthonychessar7179when you grow attached to a show that has a cast and crew who you can develop a parasocial relationship with as well as a community of people who might not have access to the media RWBY superficially resembles, combined with an appeal to a younger audience, it leads a fanbase that is very defensive and attached to their ‘community’ pill.
I'm sorry you had to deal with that. I'm sort of a fence-sitting "fan" at this point, half-heartedly watching new seasons after they've fully released so I can pray it finally reaches the promised land of potential that I know it probably never will, but it's basically just sunk-cost fallacy at this point. I enjoy parts of it in isolation, and can even feel shreds of hype at times, but it's all fairly hollow.
Most people I speak to either dropped the show within the last two seasons or are in a similar boat as myself. The extremely vocal minority (at least, I hope it's just a vocal minority) seems to be the hyper-fanbase who fail to see any flaws with the show, and it frustrates me that it feels like there's no one left to have a good discussion about it with. Everyone rational either doesn't care enough to discuss or has bounced entirely, leaving only those who will cling to their perception of the show with feral ferocity.
@@SoralaxPlays Honestly, the only proper way to enjoy RWBY at this rate is to pretend that anything after Volume 2 or 3 is just non-canon while treating any semblance of a good fanfic story as a proper alternative or your own headcanons. The list goes on really even to remastered ideas or what-ifs. Like how Salem could have just worked as an alien parasite in a homage to Jenova from FF7 that crash landed on Remnant since Monty was big on Final Fantasy. Certainly better than this shoddy ass divorce between two quasi-immortals we're stuck with in canon lol.
"There's nothing wrong with wearing your inspiration on your sleeve. What IS wrong is not understanding what made the original thing work." I wish the people who made the Cowboy Bebop live action had known this
“Is this going to be on my gravestone”
His tombstone: Harris BomberGuy is dead, and heres why
With how long these videos are, it should be a mausoleum with that inscribed on the door. And when you go in, you get a bunch of images and writing explaining his life and all the circumstances that led to his death.
Nah, they haven't decided what goes on there yet. Probably gonna be blank.
@@animeotaku307 Sure, but it'll be completed a few years after he's dead and people have forgotten there was gonna be more to his tomb.
@@nenmaster5218 oh no...
@@animeotaku307 I'm just imagining a simple tombstone but it goes up like 100 ft.
Volume 1: “Our world is experiencing an incredible time of peace”
Volume 3: “Our kingdoms are on the brink of war”
To be fair I'm pretty sure Cinder was lying there, to sow fear and what not. I mean, it's practically true now but it's mostly her fault. A self-fulfilling prophecy, as it were.
@@eren34558 It's kind of a confirmation bias thing. When you think something is shallow you're not going to be looking for a deeper meaning.
Basically every hoi4 game in a nutshell
@@someguyontheinternet8282 One moment you're worrying about building up your army and industrial capacity as fast as you can, and in the other it's "Danzig or War".
Also, Tanu what?
@@bowenorcutt78 It's not practically true, though. She did indeed lie, but it didn't have any effect and was pointless. And, of course, some random woman hijacking your television claiming your at the brink of war is pretty ineffective.
I like the idea of a weapon obsessed tinkerer making another main character's weapon, they could even end up going into each battle with slightly or radically changed weapons
I've watched this video god knows how many times and this is the first time the phrase "Writing is about making decisions, and risking making the wrong one" really got through to me as a writer. Really, really good writing advice for someone who has a tendency to get stuck during the decision-making process.
Jaune not knowing what Aura is, is like meeting a 17-year-old who doesn't realise he has lungs.
To be fair the audience is also still not entirely sure how Aura works after 10 years of the show
@@cartoonishidealism582 well, it isn't the audience's fault the writers ALSO don't know how it works xD
@@aracelissilva9613
Made worse by the fact that they decided to throw in a second power system that's even more poorly defined than the first one in the form of magic, what makes magic so special compared to Aura and semblances? Who knows? The show sure doesn't.
@@jonathanjuarez5544 and now, in volume 9, semblences can f-ing evolve!!!! What??? Shit already doesn't make sense WHY do they keep introducing new shit??????? Just try figuring out the simple things first!!
@@amf8648 semblances can evolve? Like pokemon or something? Wth?!?
So, to do list for future original animated web-series:
- Hire actual writers.
- Make the team communicate.
Done.
- Get a project lead who would give up their firstborn for the project.
Make sure that you have some number of women and people of color on the writing team
@@Tman102792 Yeah, absolutely
@@Tman102792 LGBT folk too. Even Consultants can be helpful.
Side note; I get this is a joke, but an issue with Vol 4 was how a slap happened BECAUSE of that lack of communication between the directors/writers and the animation. It was actually meant to be like a playful pap you may do to a friend who made a the kind of dumb jokes you love them for rather than what they ended up going for and it ignited many a discourse about the characters and their relationship being problematic rather than, you know, the production of the show being really bad to it's animators lol
Maybe have the person who came up with the world to write most of the show
Apparently Kerry wasn't just the co-writer but also the director after Monty died. That explains so much now. Dude never had a boss telling him what to do and what not to do, so he just kind of had free reign
oh, so the show wouldve been better if it was written by writers. in retrospect that makes sense
racism in rwby in a nutshell: racism against faunas is real becasue we say it is but we dont actually have real examples and show it.
Also: "Both sides are bad you guys! Why can't we be friends? Fighting racism with violence is wrong! Makes you just as bad as the racists! Even though we solve EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS SHOW WITH VIOLENCE!"
Fuck this show
@@amf8648 They basically took the Game of Thrones approach where, for literally every season, characters commit violence in the name of political power, vengeance, gratification, and more almost every episode. Then, in the last season of the show in the second to last episode, a character revered for his knowledge and logical approach to everything, talks about how violence is wrong and "we really should've seen this coming guys, she was always crazy."
@@eren34558 Okay? Your point being...?
@@eren34558 I was asking what the point of bringing up Salem was. Also, you realize the instances you mentioned of faunus racism all happened way after volume 3? If the subjugation of faunus kind was important to the show, they need to SHOW this and not just state it to be true.
I should mention that it's been a while since I watched the show. I stopped watching around Volume 4 or 5. Maybe I'll rewatch it, though I doubt it.
@@eren34558 AMF hasn't replied here, so I don't know why you're accusing him of having hate towards the show.
Okay this is good, you provided good examples of characters that do show contempt and some form of bigotry against the faunus. I won't deny that the show makes them out to be bigoted against the faunus. However, I do want to explain why even these examples don't actually help the story.
With Weiss, she obviously did show herself to have bigoted views of faunus. There's no denying that. However, this bigotry is quickly swept under the rug after RWBY's first encounter with the White Fang. We never hear about whether she still holds on to these views, or whether she's even tried to improve at all because of this. You don't just drop your bigoted views one day and walk with faunus hand in hand the next day. The writers should have spent more time developing this side of her character, or at the very least resolving it in the next episode or so.
Cardin is kind of in the same boat as Weiss; he's an asshole, so the writers obviously had to make him seem like it by bullying a faunus. However, this moment is never resolved and we never hear about Cardin's harmful actions, or the character himself, ever again after season 3. When he bullies Velvet in volume 1, this only reinforces the idea of him being an asshole; the bullying itself doesn't add anything meaningful to show the current situation with faunus rights or social standings.
Roman just uses whoever the hell he wants, as long as you owe him in the end. Though to be fair, that is part of his character. This is also a case where the writers could have used this bigotry to make interesting scenes and interactions, but instead just threw it out as quickly as possible. They could have used it to demonstrate tensions between the White Fang and his organization, or show how flawed and malicious his intentions are, or as an indicator of how bad things have gotten for faunus kind that they have to work with someone who actively hates them.
I would like to repeat that you have not answered "Why Salem tho?"
The fact that Ruby causally makes basically legendary weapons went absolutley nowhere made me so mad. That could’ve been SO COOL. And then it WASNT.
@yeh uda ... Which is "The most dangerous weapon ever designed". Yeah, the show doesn't bother to actually treat Crescent Rose as such in fight scenes or anywhere else because it doesn't know how to do powerscaling, but that's just another problem with this series coming from the logical conclusion from Ozpin's statement.
@yeh uda Can you please tell me the parts or moments of the series where these quotes are mentioned for Ruby's nerdiness of weapons? I need to check them out myself if I forgot.
@@mekingtiger9095 They won't. They're a RWBY stan
@@DarkKnight-zg2wk The way this person writes, comments and arguments is very similar to how Eren Denburg Niederhoffer used to harass people in the comments back when this video was still relatively new... except he was *FAR* more persistent in his stupidity and had even dumber responses, so nah, I guess. But I wouldn't be surprised if this guy _at least_ had come out from the same "circle" that Eren did.
@yeh uda can you cite where these quotes are coming from? Give us some more background for this?
Interesting fact: In the video, Hbomb points out that Monty Oum was watching Dragonball Z whike editing. Takahata talked about his interactions with Monty Oum on stream, and revealed that it's specifically Team Four Star's DBZ Abridged series that Monty is watching there!
do you guys also think about how the first black (or atleast a character with darker skin) character was a thief and the other one is named flynt coal
What's worse is that it gets worse: Oscar, a supposed main character now that gets beaten up by Qrow and other in Volume 6 and no one does a thing about it, and Ilia who's starts as part of the evil White Fang.
@@Starsy-chan2.0 completely forgot about this, haven't watched the show since i was like 12
@@ligealucretia no worries, I'm just here to inform.
Short Version: Writing amateur hour. Nepotism. Used friends instead of professionals.
Red Flag: You're hiring writers to help the animator... and the animator has to teach the writers you hired about the genre they're supposed to be writing in...
Also, Miles and Kerry weren't "hired", they were just popular figures for RT fans and they were "hired" based on that, not actual talent
This whole project feels like one of those TH-camr movies in hindsight
Another problem is that Anime is not a genre. Being asked to make an anime is like asking someone to make a movie. Yeah, there are common tropes but, in the same way that there are differences between Superhero action movies and spy thrillers, there are differences between different anime genres.
Monty gave them a mashup of various things and expected them to make sense of it. It would have been fine if he just said "let's make a TV show styled after an anime" but he gave them HOMEWORK for it. The copy paste was bound to happen because of this. They shouldn't have treated RWBY as an anime, they should have treated it as a show that was animated. Anime isn't a genre, it is just Japanese animation.
@@grandempressvicky6387 exactly!
In a parallel world Burnie Burns didn't step away from writing and Monty didn't pass away and RWBY is a god tier show.