Yup same, there is a lot of havoc players but not many that actually seem to know how to really play this class well. Right now the numbers are not there for havoc in general compared to other specs in the game. But the stuff a really skilled havoc player can do is insane. Cannot count how many times i have saved a pull in a key when my tank suddenly have died by making sure i get aggro on everything and just simply slow glaive kite tank the pack until he get back or till they die off. Not to mention the Taunt + Netherwalk option for a dangerous Tankbuster that might kill your tank if they misplayed their cds. All the control havoc has access to etc. Just a wonderful class in general imo.
@bojnebojnebojne the taunt netherwalk thing is a amazing mechanic i should bring up. I don't use it much but it has saved me keys for sure!! 100% thanks for the reminder I'll definitely be putting it in the next one!!
Very helpful tips to many players. Something that i always do, and i know many Havoc players don't do, is to always do a quick jump tap (not double jump) before using Fel Rush. Doing so will animation cancel you out of the jump animation and you will instantly Fel Rush. This is not the case if you are on the ground, if you are on the ground and want to Fel Rush, there is a high probability of you being locked into a previous spell queue window and if you are, the cast of Fel Rush will be and feel delayed as you'll have to wait for the of the previous spell animation to finish.
Hey guys! This is Part 2 but part 1 is kinda outdated with all the changes. I really wanted to highlight the main comments ive seen from havoc. I will be making full rotation and key commentarys in the coming weeks + an updated breakdown of the hero talents on havoc
@philippemartin9412 CEkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYmZmZmZGMzMjxMZmZGAAAAAAwsMMmhZGYmtZbMzMYGYZDWmFzYY20MjZmZGDbb I will be testing others this weekend. I have the build on my community page that I'm trying next
@@davidsmith2436 so happy it helped. Feel free to ask specific questions in any of my videos. I'd love to help clarify any confusing interactions! I try to check comments each day if I can
So in a coordinated group I do at 2 seconds because they will actively watch my meta to make sure im in the air before they put it in. Every pug i always slam at 3 seconds and make sure im in meta before 1 second. Alot of people have early trigger fingers
Love the video, been playing havoc since I started in DF s3 and still in love! Could you share the class WA you use?! Currently using jediths but like how streamlined yours looks
I wasnt running that in this key. Always sigil first if you run student. Ive swapped to that since this. I have a new key talking about the spec. Currently practicing it now
@@Csbwhen yes like if the countdown hits 0 and you meta out of the bubble it seems to be able to skip, also when i do the prekey meta i dont get 21 seconds do you wait for eyebeam to fully channel?
@ianhuang8963 cancel the eyebeam at the fastest global you can if your not attacking anything it can give you 1 extra second for that last deathsweep value. But that's REALLY nitpicking. If you fully cast eyebeam into meta before key that's completely fine. Most people don't even do the opener!!
Just checking you say to use up your immos and then death sweep before using actual meta, but you didnt mention to chaos strike once for that demonsurge charge? which would mean only 3 demon surges rather than the possible 4?
@TheTormentedGamer hey i was trying to create a scenario that's very plausible. Normally you wull have 4-5 seconds and we want to use things that won't gain aggro with the MOST benefit. In my time window I setup arbitrarily those are the hoghest value while deathsweep gives me a shield at the end to react to any aggro I got
@TheTormentedGamer if you have an opener in necrotic wake i want you to try to use all abilities with demonsurge IF YOU CAN without getting aggro then the eyebeam would be the 100% best. It's so unrealistic to hit that. Which is why I didn't really want people to expect to do it everytime
@@Csbwhen yeah that’s fair enough my usual start is use up immos, sigil of flame+spite eye beam, death sweep, chaos strike, vengeful retreat and meta back. I usually would just target the tanks taunt target and it works well.
@TheTormentedGamer hey! Ideally I'd love to get every single button that procs demonsurge rolling before the very first eyebeam to get max value! I love that you check the tank target. It's required when playing dh because we do alot of on demand burst. I like ending my opener with a sweep before eyebeam so I proc the trail of ruin while getting demonsurge value and official resets on imo aura will help you sustain the fel barrage fury drain. In your case make sure you have an imo and Vengeful Retreat at minimum for every single fel barrage window it will help sustain that fury drain easier
@AndyyDZN yeah buddy! Once you actually know ur good u don't care about heroic raid :) ur there to get loot cuz u have 8 characters. If you can't watch my havoc videos and see why I'm a real R1 there are plenty of other havocs that make content 😀
@AndyyDZN ill be honest I used to look at parces like you do as well but I've been playing for 20 years I do not enjoy a single thign about raid so I will spend 200kg to afk that nonsense and get my loot
Just an fyi. Rank 1 in pve does not mean 0.1% title range. It means being actual rank 1. Not sure why you'd call yourself the rank 1 DH when legit your peak was in DF S3 where you weren't Rank 1 either. Not sure how you can classify yourself as rank 1 with current blue/green and grey parses, not to mention no cutting edge as proclaimed in the video and a bought heroic boost from a week old. Man what is this scam :D
Myfavorite thing about this comment is it shows you cant read and dont know how to even review basic stats. You can see my CE parces. They are right there for everyone. But man i fucking love the know it alls man just keep slamming the questions
@@Csbwhen Alright buddy, how about you link your parses :) since no one in the comment section can find it and even you yourself had to clarify that you transferred 1 billion times. It's crazy how you replied to me 4 times while you couldn't read yourself lol, the irony
@Queen_Malek it does fascinate me that I have this video on my channel as well. Like it's in plain view I fucking love youtube comments it helps with my boredom. Arguing with actual apes is one of my favorite things to do in life. Ur all blind as a fucking bat and simply cannot read or use critical thinking. You all might be demon hunter mains after all. Welcome to the channel u morons
Man, do I love people who uses this class efficiently
You earned yourself a sub, and I’ll be expecting your vids
Guess I’m an illidari now
@Abrxis dude thanks for the kind words. It's my favorite class in wow I've been playing it forever! You will love it!!
Yup same, there is a lot of havoc players but not many that actually seem to know how to really play this class well.
Right now the numbers are not there for havoc in general compared to other specs in the game.
But the stuff a really skilled havoc player can do is insane.
Cannot count how many times i have saved a pull in a key when my tank suddenly have died by making sure i get aggro on everything and just simply slow glaive kite tank the pack until he get back or till they die off.
Not to mention the Taunt + Netherwalk option for a dangerous Tankbuster that might kill your tank if they misplayed their cds.
All the control havoc has access to etc.
Just a wonderful class in general imo.
@bojnebojnebojne the taunt netherwalk thing is a amazing mechanic i should bring up. I don't use it much but it has saved me keys for sure!! 100% thanks for the reminder I'll definitely be putting it in the next one!!
Very helpful tips to many players.
Something that i always do, and i know many Havoc players don't do, is to always do a quick jump tap (not double jump) before using Fel Rush.
Doing so will animation cancel you out of the jump animation and you will instantly Fel Rush.
This is not the case if you are on the ground, if you are on the ground and want to Fel Rush, there is a high probability of you being locked into a previous spell queue window and if you are, the cast of Fel Rush will be and feel delayed as you'll have to wait for the of the previous spell animation to finish.
@bojnebojnebojne tyty for the kind words! Can't wait to play some more this season. I'm enjoying inner demon for the first time in awhile
Hey guys! This is Part 2 but part 1 is kinda outdated with all the changes. I really wanted to highlight the main comments ive seen from havoc. I will be making full rotation and key commentarys in the coming weeks + an updated breakdown of the hero talents on havoc
What is your tallent tree setup?
@philippemartin9412 hey i posted the strings in my most recent videos
@philippemartin9412 CEkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYmZmZmZGMzMjxMZmZGAAAAAAwsMMmhZGYmtZbMzMYGYZDWmFzYY20MjZmZGDbb
I will be testing others this weekend. I have the build on my community page that I'm trying next
i did not know any of these but these were really helpful especially the hunt one thanks !
So glad it helped!
I appreciate the tips, very useful for someone who’s never played DH before TWW, really looking forward to more on DH!
@@davidsmith2436 so happy it helped. Feel free to ask specific questions in any of my videos. I'd love to help clarify any confusing interactions! I try to check comments each day if I can
thanks for the tips!
im waiting for more of this for DH
@@bodyspray4896 more coming!!!
Man, those are great tips.
Some useful tips, appreciate it :)
@@Hegovii happy it helped! Gl on vault this week!
Excellent tips, appreciate it. What time on the countdown do you start the key rotation?
So in a coordinated group I do at 2 seconds because they will actively watch my meta to make sure im in the air before they put it in. Every pug i always slam at 3 seconds and make sure im in meta before 1 second. Alot of people have early trigger fingers
Love the video, been playing havoc since I started in DF s3 and still in love! Could you share the class WA you use?! Currently using jediths but like how streamlined yours looks
@bendixon54 hey mines super mix and matched atm. I'll be making a short video on it. I actually have the beginning started
@@Csbwhen oh amazing thank you! I look forward to that video
@bendixon54 🤜🤛
Yo nice tips but shouldn’t you use sigil before you send those imo procs cause of student of suffering? Or does it not matter ?
I wasnt running that in this key. Always sigil first if you run student. Ive swapped to that since this. I have a new key talking about the spec. Currently practicing it now
Why did I not know that felblade doesn't care about orientation lmao
@BeastPig9000 yeah dude! I've been playing again and I remember a few more very small interactions. Will be making another one like this
Hey man, such a very cool weapon illusion, how to get at apply that illusion btw ? Thanks a lot before :)
@@ruslikurnianto heyhey the ones where I was attacking target dummies would be dreadflame from BFA
@ thanks a lot for the info! 😁
it seems like when i do the opener before keys it allows me to bug through the countdown bubble is that expected?
@ianhuang8963 dude yeah I've been noticing this it's CRAZY. Are u only having it happen on havoc when u meta bro????? If so that's my scenerio
@@Csbwhen yes like if the countdown hits 0 and you meta out of the bubble it seems to be able to skip, also when i do the prekey meta i dont get 21 seconds do you wait for eyebeam to fully channel?
@ianhuang8963 cancel the eyebeam at the fastest global you can if your not attacking anything it can give you 1 extra second for that last deathsweep value. But that's REALLY nitpicking. If you fully cast eyebeam into meta before key that's completely fine. Most people don't even do the opener!!
I love your transmog weapons what’s is it ? And what aura used? 😮
@@Cristian-yk1sf 👋 dreadflame is the purple enchant!
Just checking you say to use up your immos and then death sweep before using actual meta, but you didnt mention to chaos strike once for that demonsurge charge? which would mean only 3 demon surges rather than the possible 4?
@TheTormentedGamer hey i was trying to create a scenario that's very plausible. Normally you wull have 4-5 seconds and we want to use things that won't gain aggro with the MOST benefit. In my time window I setup arbitrarily those are the hoghest value while deathsweep gives me a shield at the end to react to any aggro I got
@TheTormentedGamer if you have an opener in necrotic wake i want you to try to use all abilities with demonsurge IF YOU CAN without getting aggro then the eyebeam would be the 100% best. It's so unrealistic to hit that. Which is why I didn't really want people to expect to do it everytime
@@Csbwhen yeah that’s fair enough my usual start is use up immos, sigil of flame+spite eye beam, death sweep, chaos strike, vengeful retreat and meta back. I usually would just target the tanks taunt target and it works well.
@@Csbwhen I’m forgot to mention I’m not playing inertia or essence break. Been loving fel barrage for no mover!
@TheTormentedGamer hey! Ideally I'd love to get every single button that procs demonsurge rolling before the very first eyebeam to get max value! I love that you check the tank target. It's required when playing dh because we do alot of on demand burst. I like ending my opener with a sweep before eyebeam so I proc the trail of ruin while getting demonsurge value and official resets on imo aura will help you sustain the fel barrage fury drain. In your case make sure you have an imo and Vengeful Retreat at minimum for every single fel barrage window it will help sustain that fury drain easier
Rank 1 when ur parses are grey and green?
@AndyyDZN yeah buddy! Once you actually know ur good u don't care about heroic raid :) ur there to get loot cuz u have 8 characters. If you can't watch my havoc videos and see why I'm a real R1 there are plenty of other havocs that make content 😀
@ So you Play bad on purpose? Seems like you bought boost on quuen also? Avg rank 1 i guess
@AndyyDZN i bought the entire raid get it right
@AndyyDZN ill be honest I used to look at parces like you do as well but I've been playing for 20 years I do not enjoy a single thign about raid so I will spend 200kg to afk that nonsense and get my loot
the parses thing lol
but i don't see ce on this char?
what is this diddy stuff we got going on in here.
Just an fyi. Rank 1 in pve does not mean 0.1% title range. It means being actual rank 1. Not sure why you'd call yourself the rank 1 DH when legit your peak was in DF S3 where you weren't Rank 1 either.
Not sure how you can classify yourself as rank 1 with current blue/green and grey parses, not to mention no cutting edge as proclaimed in the video and a bought heroic boost from a week old. Man what is this scam :D
Myfavorite thing about this comment is it shows you cant read and dont know how to even review basic stats. You can see my CE parces. They are right there for everyone. But man i fucking love the know it alls man just keep slamming the questions
@@Csbwhen Alright buddy, how about you link your parses :) since no one in the comment section can find it and even you yourself had to clarify that you transferred 1 billion times. It's crazy how you replied to me 4 times while you couldn't read yourself lol, the irony
@Queen_Malek www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/csbwhen?zone=24
@Queen_Malek all they had to ask kiddo keep it rolling.
@Queen_Malek it does fascinate me that I have this video on my channel as well. Like it's in plain view I fucking love youtube comments it helps with my boredom. Arguing with actual apes is one of my favorite things to do in life. Ur all blind as a fucking bat and simply cannot read or use critical thinking. You all might be demon hunter mains after all. Welcome to the channel u morons
what a geek lol
@@stevelamb9453 dude you don't even know the half of it