I just made a country that got 400 ducat income, insane man power and got hegemony in 1508, now for the trick... for the love of God, someone stop this man!
Every week I see this guy post something insane and think to myself “well that was insane, but I bet he’s gonna run out of insane things to show us any day now” but he just keeps on coming back with even crazier stuff. 😄
Damn you brought out all the Dutch cheese for this trick. Guess you only figure out stuff like this by reading how the events are coded. Haven't seen anybody use trade cities ever.
This also got me thinking. in theory. you could change primary culture to dutch then makes vassels and make sure they all have at least one province in the lowland reagion, force convert their culture to Dutch, realse them switch back to original culture. Once you play as the Netherlands, you should in theory get a lot more land then you should be able to.
Servus student i know an exploit that works. Forming timurids and and enacting soyurghal grants privilege while having %40or more crownland and 10 time devoloping. While your estate tab is open you click restore the treasury decision and reenact and click again. Everytime you gain 2years of income and 15% crownland. I did qara qoyunlu>timurids>mamluks>egypt>persia run. Having more than 100% cav combat ability while having western troops amazing run. İ recommend.
@@fster5588 not so easy but you need to become turcoman federation before 1490 to be able to enact "enthrone timurid prince"decision. For that you need to finish "reorganize the state" mission and gor that you need to have 150 dev turkish culture provinces which means you need to take most of anatolia from ottomans very early on
@@fster5588 it is easier to do as aq but they are very small comparing to qq. İ immedeatly convert sunni as qq so it is easier to expand and i have additional cav fraction in army
I tried it, and it's mad indeed. My setup was bad , becouse the Dutchess of Burgundy lived forever my game, so i had to integrate Burgundy manually. I coudn't develop my provinces, and took a lot of time. But still, once it was done.. you could charter half of India in a few years
new to your content but this is incredible! do you ever do playthroughs? cause this would be worth watching, especially with how massive you got as France so early on, too :)
I know this will likely get tedious fairly quickly.. But it would be cool to see you play a mass conquest game for the first 50 years or so. With that much gold and manpower both coalitions and rebels could be overcome with sheer numbers?
@@thestudentYT Yes, but wasn't that roman empire save basically near collapse from all the OE after the peace agreements were signed? On the other hand, with one million+ troops you could basically just live with the OE until there's enough admin mana to core?
Can you make a alliance with the trade city , expand his nation without get agressif , expansion , and after annex the trade city with more province than his originel province?
Random English fact, you don't say "Over-taken". It means passed by, as in exceeded. In the context you where using you should use "Inherited" or "Copied" instead :)
Nice strategy. Immaterial to the strategy, but wouldnt it be optimal to found VOC in non trade center provinces and to personally keep the trade centers? Basically have the VOC own everything in India besides trade centers that you trade company yourself.
@@maiddzomba8069 Yes but only if you get as much Trade Power oit of the Provinces as the VOC (which you won't) otherwise the lower autonomy, the Tariffs and the Trade Power us better
@@thestudentYThow does your TP compared to the VOC matter? ai nations wont TC provinces anyways, so any TP you have in TC will be positive difference in GP bonus regardless.
Just realized it in my current game, but the monument "bourse of Amsterdam", can't you technically have infinite admin and diplo development? Raise the monument, release the vassal that will get the province, upgrade the monument until it's max out, annex vassals and re-upgrade as the first step. Sure it's not op, but easily do able and the requirement are to conquer the province and have a money.
Is it bad that i wanted 2 additional territories to be on the Netherlands mission tree, even through WoC has very good for it? It kinda feels bad that the lands of Orange (france) and Nassau (HRE) are not in the Dutch mission tree, given that the dutch royal family is of the Orange-Nassau
The problem is that orange is only about 1/3 of the province of avignon and they never possesed all of Nassau but only a part but I agree it would be nice if they got claims in the mission tree
Since colonies have the nation’s primary culture except when expelling minorities, does that mean you can do this strategy indefinitely with colonies instead of trade cities by giving them independence and waiting for the truce to end?
Just saw this, must’ve forgot that bit about a province needing to be in the lowlands. I hope at least it’s still possible to do that constitutional restoration exploit a couple videos ago
Tell me if Im mistaken, but the event checks for tags and not name right? So you can just left the name to be whatever it was and repeat it for how many number trading city tags (75) available
Wait, can't the netherlands use this to inherit free cores on anything within 3 cores range of the lowlands region, with the only price being reduced AE of feeding a subject? (sure that will extend the timer from instant to post-truce but still)
I mean right now it would be just building time... but it is capped at getting the Dutsch revolt (so 1500) which means that it is not fast enough to be interesting
why would anyone play this way? abusing bugs to generate near infinite manpower, money and sailors. everything needed to build a successful campaign. are you selling this strategy as a genuine way to play eu4? if not, then this video should be used as a report to paradox instead. in general, i would recommend the community to stay away from exploits like this. they may seem fun temporarily but they usually destroy the player experience as he will be tempted to exploit more. i used to follow your channel content and like them when you made good guides and explanation of game mechanics which werent outright exploits like the recent videos. the reform farm video is such an example. its such an egregious exploit that you sell as if its an intended mechanic and call your run "exploit free sans birding".
the case in point for exploits ruining gameplay being the youtuber himself here. he didnt do outright exploits in his earlier content and as the time progressed, he started using this exploits and selling them as intentional game mechanics and it seems he can no longer go back to playing normally.
I honestly always did both: Underrated Game Mechanics AND Crazy Strategies... Just 3 weeks ago I talked about condottiery Army Tradition and 4 weeks ago I did a succession Game with Zlewikk and the video before that one was simply about the Free Cities League modifier... So I am still doing what you said I didn't do anymore but of course I will keep going with doing crazy strategies as this is mostly what people want to see (this is just how it works) And btw I also did these "exploit" strategies already from the start of this channel such as the Siberian Frontiers in America (my second video) or an uncolonized World Conquest (like 2 years ago)... So it is nice to hear that you liked half of my content at least and I hope you will keep watching these videos in the future as well but I have to tell you that these 2 things were always part of my channel and I plan to keep it this way if you can understand my pov on this topic Have a great day anyways!
There's nothing wrong airing out hidden game mechanics. If anything, it makes PDX take a look and perhaps do something about the entire process if they deem it important.
I just made a country that got 400 ducat income, insane man power and got hegemony in 1508, now for the trick... for the love of God, someone stop this man!
“I don’t care about alliances I only care about money over everything else” nice to see the student embrace historically accurate Dutch diplomacy
Ah yes, my favorite nation of French France. I was worried that it was just normal France, or worse, English France.
Or even worse, ottoman france.
@@darkphoenix2745 Or worse: "Holy Roman" France
@@darkphoenix2745 that's better than fr*nch fr*nce
Gloohkaester is in french france, thats geography. :D
Looking at the "Oversticht35 joins the Republic" event gives me feelings which are not named yet
Every week I see this guy post something insane and think to myself “well that was insane, but I bet he’s gonna run out of insane things to show us any day now” but he just keeps on coming back with even crazier stuff. 😄
Damn you brought out all the Dutch cheese for this trick. Guess you only figure out stuff like this by reading how the events are coded. Haven't seen anybody use trade cities ever.
We can say he brought out the Gouda and the Edam
This also got me thinking. in theory. you could change primary culture to dutch then makes vassels and make sure they all have at least one province in the lowland reagion, force convert their culture to Dutch, realse them switch back to original culture. Once you play as the Netherlands, you should in theory get a lot more land then you should be able to.
@@lkdominator4088 Yeah problem is it's max 5 provines :(
@@S4RC45T1C Yes. but. The HRE is very good at having too many small countries.
I really like how you give each of your strange tactics a name.
The Netherlands, in the only alternative timeline where tulips were actually worth that much :)
Awesome!
Insane tactic mate! You are soo good at this game! I don't know how can someone can find this stuff
Paradox game balance devs watching TheStudent videos: Write that down, write that down!
Insane video as usual. You are the best! This whole Dutch Gambit made me lose my mind!
Erst Manapoints out of air und jetzt das ... bin einfach immer wieder beeindruckt. Vllt sollte ich mal öfter ein Blick ins Wiki werfen :D
Servus student i know an exploit that works. Forming timurids and and enacting soyurghal grants privilege while having %40or more crownland and 10 time devoloping. While your estate tab is open you click restore the treasury decision and reenact and click again. Everytime you gain 2years of income and 15% crownland. I did qara qoyunlu>timurids>mamluks>egypt>persia run. Having more than 100% cav combat ability while having western troops amazing run. İ recommend.
how do you become timurids starting as qq?
@@fster5588 not so easy but you need to become turcoman federation before 1490 to be able to enact "enthrone timurid prince"decision. For that you need to finish "reorganize the state" mission and gor that you need to have 150 dev turkish culture provinces which means you need to take most of anatolia from ottomans very early on
@@fster5588 it is easier to do as aq but they are very small comparing to qq. İ immedeatly convert sunni as qq so it is easier to expand and i have additional cav fraction in army
French France.... I can't
Absolute mad lad.
the fact that the thumb wasn't a lie is really scary
I tried it, and it's mad indeed. My setup was bad , becouse the Dutchess of Burgundy lived forever my game, so i had to integrate Burgundy manually. I coudn't develop my provinces, and took a lot of time. But still, once it was done.. you could charter half of India in a few years
You could probably slacken recruitment to get 3 times the manpower.
Bro needs to change his name to "the professor"
new to your content but this is incredible! do you ever do playthroughs? cause this would be worth watching, especially with how massive you got as France so early on, too :)
I did a chaotic Succession Game with Zlewikk few weeks ago and a Roman Empire speedrun last week
I know this will likely get tedious fairly quickly.. But it would be cool to see you play a mass conquest game for the first 50 years or so. With that much gold and manpower both coalitions and rebels could be overcome with sheer numbers?
I mean I did a Roman Empire Speedrun in 1474... that was also with Infinite Money (basically)
@@thestudentYT Yes, but wasn't that roman empire save basically near collapse from all the OE after the peace agreements were signed? On the other hand, with one million+ troops you could basically just live with the OE until there's enough admin mana to core?
Yes nothing matters at this point anymore
New billion stack meta just dropped
Power of freedom.
damn, you are really good cheeser
Being Dutch, I approve.
Can you make a alliance with the trade city , expand his nation without get agressif , expansion , and after annex the trade city with more province than his originel province?
no
Hearing the way he said Gloucester hurt me but made me laugh
If you slacken recruitment, do "x joins the republic" events give more manpower?
Probably... but probably it would also just overflow as well then xD
@@thestudentYT aren't players at multiplayer reaching even highter values of manpower? I don't think that it would overflow
Now I want to play a Netherlands game, btw which map/graphic mode are you using? It look really nice.
Video description
@@thestudentYT Thanks
Random English fact, you don't say "Over-taken". It means passed by, as in exceeded. In the context you where using you should use "Inherited" or "Copied" instead :)
Nice strategy. Immaterial to the strategy, but wouldnt it be optimal to found VOC in non trade center provinces and to personally keep the trade centers? Basically have the VOC own everything in India besides trade centers that you trade company yourself.
you can Transfer trade from them... so no
@@thestudentYT oh... duh. Well anyway, great video :)
@@thestudentYTBut it would improve the goods produced in VOC provinces = more trade money for you.
@@maiddzomba8069 Yes but only if you get as much Trade Power oit of the Provinces as the VOC (which you won't) otherwise the lower autonomy, the Tariffs and the Trade Power us better
@@thestudentYThow does your TP compared to the VOC matter? ai nations wont TC provinces anyways, so any TP you have in TC will be positive difference in GP bonus regardless.
Just realized it in my current game, but the monument "bourse of Amsterdam", can't you technically have infinite admin and diplo development?
Raise the monument, release the vassal that will get the province, upgrade the monument until it's max out, annex vassals and re-upgrade as the first step.
Sure it's not op, but easily do able and the requirement are to conquer the province and have a money.
Yes that works
Is it bad that i wanted 2 additional territories to be on the Netherlands mission tree, even through WoC has very good for it? It kinda feels bad that the lands of Orange (france) and Nassau (HRE) are not in the Dutch mission tree, given that the dutch royal family is of the Orange-Nassau
The problem is that orange is only about 1/3 of the province of avignon and they never possesed all of Nassau but only a part but I agree it would be nice if they got claims in the mission tree
i'm speechless, lol
btw does it work if you play as france then release burgundy trick then form netherland?
Yes
3:40 very interesting soundtrack. Sounds like something from the 40's.
What if you win a war for spoils of war, does it calculate the increased income?
He's done it again.
PS Gloucestershire is pronounced "gloss ta shear"
how French do you want France to be? YES
Since colonies have the nation’s primary culture except when expelling minorities, does that mean you can do this strategy indefinitely with colonies instead of trade cities by giving them independence and waiting for the truce to end?
No it has to be in the lowlands ... And he explained in the video that your idea could be carried out with vassals but it's slower than this way
Just saw this, must’ve forgot that bit about a province needing to be in the lowlands. I hope at least it’s still possible to do that constitutional restoration exploit a couple videos ago
i think by 1510 you have time to convert culture in a few provinces to dutch.
Yeah... but it has to be dutch/flemish/frisian culture AND in the Lowlands Region XD
Tell me if Im mistaken, but the event checks for tags and not name right? So you can just left the name to be whatever it was and repeat it for how many number trading city tags (75) available
No because you cannot create a Trading City with the same name of a previous Tradig City...
@@thestudentYT ah that's what I missed..
Epic
Wait, can't the netherlands use this to inherit free cores on anything within 3 cores range of the lowlands region, with the only price being reduced AE of feeding a subject? (sure that will extend the timer from instant to post-truce but still)
yes but it is not really worth it imo
Could you not slacken recruitment for the events that give 3 years manpower to cheese it even harder?
Yes I could have... maybe then it would even overflow same as the sailors though xD
Big cheese😄
👏
Can player Netherlands gain AI very hard bonuses through this release/formation mechanic like Gotland/Denmark?
No
Would this also work starting as a custom nation?
Yes as long as you play as the Netherlands in the disasters
You should slacken professionalism to get more manpower
Could you use "cede province" instead of trading cities?
No that gives a truce
GEKOLONISEERD
Nice bug report!
How fast can you get the military hegemon by using this trick?
I mean right now it would be just building time... but it is capped at getting the Dutsch revolt (so 1500) which means that it is not fast enough to be interesting
what did i just watch ?
The true reason for the Tulip Mania ;)
How is this historical?
They declared Independence
just playing the netherlands via dutch revolt as opposed to forming them; the exploit it enables is just a little extra bonus lol
Starting as France 😂
Had been more powerful if staying as France.
Not really... I have never seen a France having Infinite Money and Manpower in 1544
Mein Gott...
Ich mag dich und gucke gerne deine Videos, aber dass du 1000 Jahre brauchst, um mal auf den Punkt zu kommen. Das ist etwas ermüdent.
Sorry
don't be. explaining what it's all about is what most of us are here for
lol why would you ever do this
why not?
If you are asking this question, you are in the wrong place buddy :D
definitely seems like an excessive and cheap way of going about this
its not an exploit. it is an intended game mechanic that the community should definitely adopt. SMH
Sounds excessive
why would anyone play this way? abusing bugs to generate near infinite manpower, money and sailors. everything needed to build a successful campaign. are you selling this strategy as a genuine way to play eu4? if not, then this video should be used as a report to paradox instead. in general, i would recommend the community to stay away from exploits like this. they may seem fun temporarily but they usually destroy the player experience as he will be tempted to exploit more. i used to follow your channel content and like them when you made good guides and explanation of game mechanics which werent outright exploits like the recent videos. the reform farm video is such an example. its such an egregious exploit that you sell as if its an intended mechanic and call your run "exploit free sans birding".
the case in point for exploits ruining gameplay being the youtuber himself here. he didnt do outright exploits in his earlier content and as the time progressed, he started using this exploits and selling them as intentional game mechanics and it seems he can no longer go back to playing normally.
I honestly always did both: Underrated Game Mechanics AND Crazy Strategies... Just 3 weeks ago I talked about condottiery Army Tradition and 4 weeks ago I did a succession Game with Zlewikk and the video before that one was simply about the Free Cities League modifier... So I am still doing what you said I didn't do anymore but of course I will keep going with doing crazy strategies as this is mostly what people want to see (this is just how it works)
And btw I also did these "exploit" strategies already from the start of this channel such as the Siberian Frontiers in America (my second video) or an uncolonized World Conquest (like 2 years ago)... So it is nice to hear that you liked half of my content at least and I hope you will keep watching these videos in the future as well but I have to tell you that these 2 things were always part of my channel and I plan to keep it this way if you can understand my pov on this topic
Have a great day anyways!
There's nothing wrong airing out hidden game mechanics. If anything, it makes PDX take a look and perhaps do something about the entire process if they deem it important.