Slowly making our way through the initial theorycrafts that I made for Perils in Paradise :P Are there any of them u'd all like to see made into a full vid or other ideas let me know!
Snaketastic video! Snakes a lot!! I played ~200 games of snake warlock annnnd yeah not a single aggro deck had a chance Funny that you mention not liking lamplighter rogue while feeling okay-ish versus other lamplighter decks because I'm playing lamp mage and almost every lamp rogue lost to me. Does it really feel worse facing a rogue? And hell YES to the buff murlock deck! And mindbender should be 2 mana, totes agree with you it is naut fair
First off glad u enjoy the deck! As someone who is testing lamplighter warrior right now... I think ur right that rogue is worse then mage but i think what makes mage more annoying for me is just shadowsteps it feels really bad to get wombo comboed by 4 in the same turn which is why i think making it 4 cost would help with that The Murloc deck is in the cards just going to do a few other classes first i think :P Mindbender is weird because i just think they over balanced it which sucks specially given they printed a neutral one like 3 sets later >.
Nice deck, as spected Azerite warlock is fairly good. But the play pattern feels so Titans in my opinion. My brother has a version of this deck that instead of playing with the bounce minions he uses the 3 mana spell that gives a deathrattle (summon two dormant copies of a minion) and Reververation to get many copies of the taunt demon that excavates. The cool thing about this approach is that those cards are also sinergistic with ourobus. It is hard to tell without playtesting, but it might help to make the deck feel less biassed towards one of the cool snakes. Also, I've been playtesting with Rogue Bayfinn (the buffed murloc) but the deck feels too inconsistent most of the time. I'm really excited to see what approach you're gonna take on the deck.
Funny u mention Cursed Campaign the other day I was playing on stream and someone was using it in what could best be described as bomb reno warlock. Which reminded me of its existance :P Also sucks to hear about Bayfinn :/ BUT I'll still try to do something with it soonish might try to cover some of the other classes I havnt yet since perils release before then but given how many ideas i got for rogue it will probably be sooner than later :P
@Nautlocke_Vt, Bomb Reno Warlock is certainly a sentence. I'm almost sure all of those are real words. I kinda want to try it now. About Bayfinn. The main problem of the rogue build is that there's not much going on the deck besides Bayfinn (at least the way I built it, it might still be fixable I haven't given up on it). But I was thinking that priest also has a really good shot here. Bayfinn is a 5-cost minion; which is fairly expensive for the new 3 mana cost spell that resurrects the most expensive minion of both players. And if I understand well how this interaction works, Bayfinn should destroy whaterever you summoned for your opponent so is a one side resurrection. The plus is Priest is more controlly and have no trouble getting coppies of dirty rat. The main con... priest doesn't have shadowstep, and you have to giveup the titan. Anyways, I'll stick to the rogue version untill you build yours.
Yeah thats the problem i was expecting to run into it I know someone was thinking about doing it in priest over on twitter I will say this i think ur version of the list while interesting isnt going to be the best way to approach bayfin rogue i think it probably will be using the excavating package instead for additional removal tho i do understand why u want for the route instead
@Nautlocke_Vt Excavate would be an amazing solution to my problem, but I don't own the excavate legendary and excavate rogue without it wastes too much deck slots. One thing I did was add Zilliax and Dorian to the deck. Zilliax helps keeping me alive against aggro and Dorian helps cheap out some combo pieces. But even if I live enough to make the combo now, if my oponent doesn't rage-quit after I destroy its Sargeras, Excavate cards and bouncers; I still lose 'cause my oponent's Symphony of Sins mills my other Marin treasures and I go to fatigue (that was a fullfilling yet sad game)
Hey man I really enjoy your videos and you make some creative and fun decks but a small pet peeve that I have is you say "I'm not gonna lie" constantly throughout the videos. Small thing but just wanted to say it. Love your stuff.
I never noticed it before but now that u pointed it out i was editing friday's video and... There is atleast one use of that phrase >.< sorry this is probably a habit i wont be able to break
easy explanation! if u look at two full vids before this i tanked my mmr so muxh trying to pull off the infinite dk combo + i played about 15 games with a deck that will probably only ever be a short since it lost 13 games in a row
Slowly making our way through the initial theorycrafts that I made for Perils in Paradise :P Are there any of them u'd all like to see made into a full vid or other ideas let me know!
Snaketastic video! Snakes a lot!!
I played ~200 games of snake warlock annnnd yeah not a single aggro deck had a chance
Funny that you mention not liking lamplighter rogue while feeling okay-ish versus other lamplighter decks because I'm playing lamp mage and almost every lamp rogue lost to me. Does it really feel worse facing a rogue?
And hell YES to the buff murlock deck! And mindbender should be 2 mana, totes agree with you it is naut fair
First off glad u enjoy the deck!
As someone who is testing lamplighter warrior right now... I think ur right that rogue is worse then mage but i think what makes mage more annoying for me is just shadowsteps it feels really bad to get wombo comboed by 4 in the same turn which is why i think making it 4 cost would help with that
The Murloc deck is in the cards just going to do a few other classes first i think :P Mindbender is weird because i just think they over balanced it which sucks specially given they printed a neutral one like 3 sets later >.
Nice deck, as spected Azerite warlock is fairly good. But the play pattern feels so Titans in my opinion.
My brother has a version of this deck that instead of playing with the bounce minions he uses the 3 mana spell that gives a deathrattle (summon two dormant copies of a minion) and Reververation to get many copies of the taunt demon that excavates.
The cool thing about this approach is that those cards are also sinergistic with ourobus. It is hard to tell without playtesting, but it might help to make the deck feel less biassed towards one of the cool snakes.
Also, I've been playtesting with Rogue Bayfinn (the buffed murloc) but the deck feels too inconsistent most of the time. I'm really excited to see what approach you're gonna take on the deck.
Funny u mention Cursed Campaign the other day I was playing on stream and someone was using it in what could best be described as bomb reno warlock. Which reminded me of its existance :P
Also sucks to hear about Bayfinn :/ BUT I'll still try to do something with it soonish might try to cover some of the other classes I havnt yet since perils release before then but given how many ideas i got for rogue it will probably be sooner than later :P
@Nautlocke_Vt, Bomb Reno Warlock is certainly a sentence. I'm almost sure all of those are real words. I kinda want to try it now.
About Bayfinn. The main problem of the rogue build is that there's not much going on the deck besides Bayfinn (at least the way I built it, it might still be fixable I haven't given up on it).
But I was thinking that priest also has a really good shot here. Bayfinn is a 5-cost minion; which is fairly expensive for the new 3 mana cost spell that resurrects the most expensive minion of both players. And if I understand well how this interaction works, Bayfinn should destroy whaterever you summoned for your opponent so is a one side resurrection. The plus is Priest is more controlly and have no trouble getting coppies of dirty rat. The main con... priest doesn't have shadowstep, and you have to giveup the titan.
Anyways, I'll stick to the rogue version untill you build yours.
Yeah thats the problem i was expecting to run into it I know someone was thinking about doing it in priest over on twitter I will say this i think ur version of the list while interesting isnt going to be the best way to approach bayfin rogue i think it probably will be using the excavating package instead for additional removal tho i do understand why u want for the route instead
@Nautlocke_Vt Excavate would be an amazing solution to my problem, but I don't own the excavate legendary and excavate rogue without it wastes too much deck slots.
One thing I did was add Zilliax and Dorian to the deck. Zilliax helps keeping me alive against aggro and Dorian helps cheap out some combo pieces.
But even if I live enough to make the combo now, if my oponent doesn't rage-quit after I destroy its Sargeras, Excavate cards and bouncers; I still lose 'cause my oponent's Symphony of Sins mills my other Marin treasures and I go to fatigue (that was a fullfilling yet sad game)
Thanks for the vidéo !
no problem! hope u enjoy it / the deck
He's not gonna lie
I'm pretty sure this guy is lying despite him constantly reminding us that he's not gonna lie.
End game and reverberations for the sargerss idea.
I know technically end game works but i cant remember if i tried reverbs I think i did but it didnt work tho that was almost a year ago
@@Nautlocke_Vt oh. How off them it's supposed to be an exact copy. But then again, they changed it for the enemy to not use your portal.
ill try it again at some point to see but i think when they changed it so the opponent cant use it it fixed that interaction
Hey man I really enjoy your videos and you make some creative and fun decks but a small pet peeve that I have is you say "I'm not gonna lie" constantly throughout the videos. Small thing but just wanted to say it. Love your stuff.
I never noticed it before but now that u pointed it out i was editing friday's video and... There is atleast one use of that phrase >.< sorry this is probably a habit i wont be able to break
@@Nautlocke_Vt No worries. Everyone has speech patterns and I certainly have my phrases.
one question, are you gonna lie?
Stop lying
50 % WR while you're playing plats in legend.... sounds sus.
easy explanation! if u look at two full vids before this i tanked my mmr so muxh trying to pull off the infinite dk combo + i played about 15 games with a deck that will probably only ever be a short since it lost 13 games in a row