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- Jon and Justin revisit the first episode they ever recorded together, “The Dark Side of Christianity.” If we are going to live honest and helpful lives in the church, we have to acknowledge that things often feel dark. Where does this darkness come from? It comes from the corruption of our flesh, and it comes from the work of the evil one. The guys talk about both in this episode.
Semper Reformanda: Jon and Justin go a little bit deeper into the realities of the demonic realm and spiritual warfare.
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I would really love to hear you guys do an episode on division in the church, especially when it comes to a lot of christian truth seekers on TH-camrs that seem to be largely Baptist or Jon Mcarther fans. While they sometimes raise valid points, I feel like its morphed into a christian cancel culture as of late as if any teacher, pastor or leader that makes a mistake or might be off on some teaching are their labeled a heritic and now nothing they say or teach can be trusted.
I’m often called a heretic because I’m a preterist. Water off a duck’s back, lol 😜
God bless you ❤
Just how I was feeling this week
Brilliant you guys. Thank you. Such wonderful confirmations, affirmations and insight.
Thank you brothers for encouraging us in Christ Jesus :), keep up the good work :)
Have either of you ever witnessed a person being set free from a demon? Seems like Spiritual Warfare is a common topic, but most folks shy away from the Mark 16:15-18 aspect of the Gospel. I would say that I am fairly reformed in my understanding of Salvation, but I do believe, and see, Mark 16 signs at the small country church I pastor weekly. And yes, my family is constantly under the attack of darkness.
Cool shirt brother John😊👍
John Lennon’s song “Imagine”
Romans six tells us that our old man is dead and Paul tells us that IF we si there is an advocate. If we say that we are sinners, guess what, there will be sin. If we say we are new in Christ and that we have all of the fruits of the Spirit, there is freedom and renewal. Dan Mohler is the expert.
So when Jesus said _Go, and sin no more,_ you believe he had his fingers crossed behind his back?
By the way, you misquoted Paul, who didn't utter the passage you loosely paraphrased, that was the Apostle John. Paul did say, however, that whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
Those who continue to walk in the lusts of the flesh rather than in the power of the Holy Spirit are deceived.
"He that saith he knows him, but keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." (1 John 2:4)
Examine yourself whether you be in the faith. The gate leading to life is narrow for a reason.
@@PETERJOHN101I am wondering if you could elaborate on your comment. My impression is that you are implying that anyone sinning cannot be a Christian. The passage you quoted isn't implying that you will not sin. As it states in
1 John 2:1 (ESV)
1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
As you stated, we have an advocate in Christ. But it goes on to say the verse you said as evidence that you are in Christ. The way I understand this, and I think the heart of what @theocast is try to show, it isn't that I do his commands, so I am a Christian. Rather, it is that I am a Christian, so I will do his commands. And in doing his commands, I have evidence of my faith in him.
Wow so you love God with all your heart mind and strength all the time, that is wonderful..........
@@savedwretch8711 wow. how to this? in christ im doing it but in myself as paul says we do what we dont to do, but dont do what i should?
We can see Satan working in more than one way, in comfort, in apathy, in chaos, in much and in need etc.
Wow.. Like to chat with wisdom like yours
i just wanted to try to clearify my writing bellow, when you come from anything out of the norm it is not well understood, my info below has a lot of things missing so it may be hard to understand .
but i am trying the hardess i s when the word said s thing like if love ofchrist is in you than you will not keep sinning this is hard for me, because sexual addiction and molestion kind of gives you perverted view of love like sex and love is the same so sinning leave you feeling guilty and brings shame but at same time you need to feel loved, been one great fight sexual addiction is like any addiction you have to find the right help for it.
Great program! While i am not a Christian Nationalism adherent, it does not help your perspective to strawman theonomy. Again, great program gentleman!
Theonomy is perhaps stewardship scaled. Do we make sure to eat right, workout, raise families, build houses, churches, schools, hospitals, businesses. We are all called to be ministers in that we display God's marvelous grace as we workout those gifts he has given.
There is no dark side to the gospel except our dead corpses.
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Great episode. Only concern is that you attributed theonomy to satan. What if you are wrong?
In Theocast’s defense, theonomy is not outlined or prescribed in Scripture. Jesus taught that the world oils become more and more evil until his return. He declared that He had overcome the world and that believers would always be a persecuted minority. When Pilate asked about Jesus’ kingship, here is how He responded: ““My kingdom is not of this world,” said Jesus. “If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would fight, so that I wouldn’t be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.”” John 18:36 CSB
Theonomy stands in opposition to the view of the world Jesus has. Theonomy teaches that men can progressively make nations and perhaps the entire world operate under a Christian government. Salvation does not come this way. We are called in Matthew 28:18 to make disciples, which is a one-on-one process. We just don’t have a Biblical model for forcing people to adhere to a Christian system of laws. It’s the Holy Spirit who causes us to change and to walk a Godly path.
Since the principles of theonomy prioritize political supremacy over evangelism, I have a hard time seeing it coming from anywhere but Satan. In Matthew 4, Satan offered Jesus everything theonomy offers us now - worldly fulfillment, spiritual supremacy, and earthly dominion. Meanwhile, God tells us it to store up treasures here, where it’s temporary and passing away.
That’s my take. God bless you bro.
@@DaveTheAmerican I get where you are coming from even though I disagree. I find it uncomfortable when someone deems a theological concept (e.g theonomy, baptism, or the eucharist) as Satanic.
@@themanincharge6418 I agree that Christians today have a fascination with calling things satanic these days, but theonomy specifically seems directly out of Satan’s playbook. It de-emphasizes individual evangelism, which is what we are called to do upon salvation. Theonomy promises us a world where we can have peace because everyone accepts laws based on the Bible. That just doesn’t square with what Jesus revealed to us.
In my military time, I got to go to several Muslim countries where the human leaders led by their perspective of God’s laws. In every case, it leads to abuse, control, manipulation, and greater unrighteousness. They vie for political control to impose their take on their scriptures.
Revelation tells us there will be war and chaos leading up to the triumphant return of Christ, who will defeat Satan and bring peace. Christ alone is worthy and qualified to lead us into peace. You can look to the Vatican if you want to see how corrupted the world becomes when flawed, sinful men. It’s not our job to make the world ready to receive Christ. We need to be busy sharing the gospel and making disciples, not trying to shape governments to make people act like Christians. Know what I mean?
@@DaveTheAmerican Got it, brother. Have a blessed day.
@@themanincharge6418 I hear you, bro. I can respect your caution in calling something satanic, but I think we all must be willing to draw a line and take a stand against what the Bible calls doctrines of demons. If we are unwilling to do so, the greater risk is being silent when believers or prospective believes are being led astray by the Devil. Thanks for the thoughtful and civil discourse. It’s a refreshing thing in these TH-cam streets. 😄✊🏽
i have been through so much hell in my lifetime im from a gay past my childhood i had a identity issue as a girl i was molested i had tsd dyslexia couldn't read nightmares couldn't read until i was 17 lost my friend who was a god send bible church all because he he invited to his house and he brought me to his bedroom as he changed into his bum arounds and was in his underwear my eyes went right to it and that ended the relationship it broke my heart of course it had to happen i know whole heartedly it had or he would have messed up himself with my sin we all have the weaknesses of sex regradless of what they are now after yrs of hell in christanity i am going through hell but hearing you guy has helped it horrible to feel like like a hore lust and sexual addiction still taking me down at times i get these things thorn at me like i want to do all these evil things and whats wrong with me just evil i am starting too understand its not me but satan i mean just dirty stuff out of no where you start to feel this filth and you feel like you want to do it and with phyical reactions and the hardest part of this is that i have taken this on myself not going out and sinning with people but just sinning with myself and learning its just as bad and just found out how men have been doing the same thing with porn and a lot of people in the ministry are doing it also i stopped porn i have come to thepoint of feeling i got to change or i going fall into a pit lust of people and never get out its just this so hard that it started as a child and that most likely i will never see a man in my life because it all falls into the same pit of sin being gay really doesn't make that much of a different it still falls into the the same pit of hell from the devil i just wish god would the homosexual side because if its not ok i have the worse side of it you can marry if your heterosexual if your gay you can't i found it so bad went a paster on tv laughed at people who were not married you can have all the sex you want if your married what a gutt rencher that was i really don't want to be around a lot longer if i don't have to be i just don't feel like i've done anything for the lord the fear i went through because of my childhood i was afraid of my own shadow there was a spirit in the house i lived in as a child have you ever felt the hair raise on you you don't have to in the middle real evil i have felt it just watching a tv show evil things noing that its really true like the night its self going out at night is dangerous because all hell is lose crazy people to of satans menions just because we see movies and horror doesn't mean some of it isn't real thank you for helping me to see a little more i was feeling like i was trying to find a place to jump to find a pit of evil satan is really trying it not knowing what is around us that makes us think its us when the evil comes in are mind like seeing a guy or a girl and everything start going full force you start thinking your a pig but it not you it satan or demons if your not prayed up on thought from you can turn into a courtyard of thoughts from hell a valueable lesson to everyone who already don't know stop watching everything under the sun in tv and movies theres things you don't need to put in your mind even a sexy movie or horror it leaves things behind there was a movie called it follows its about evil spirits that roam the earth its true because you can open a door to some of this stuff if the door is there to be opened why do you think jesus healed all these people and some were demons we don't see them and you don't want to if you watch something horific and you feal the hair raise on your arm thats god letting you know evil is real
I understand your situation we should talk
So when Jesus said _Go, and sin no more,_ you believe he had his fingers crossed behind his back?
By the way, you misquoted Paul, who didn't utter the passage you loosely paraphrased, that was the Apostle John. Paul did say, however, that whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
Those who continue to walk in the lusts of the flesh rather than in the power of the Holy Spirit are deceived.
"He that saith he knows him, but keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." (1 John 2:4)
Examine yourself whether you be in the faith. The gate leading to life is narrow for a reason.
@PETERJOHN101 I am wondering if you could elaborate on your comment. My impression is that you are implying that anyone sinning cannot be a Christian. The passage you quoted isn't implying that you will not sin. As it states in
1 John 2:1 (ESV)
1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
As you stated, we have an advocate in Christ. But it goes on to say the verse you said as evidence that you are in Christ. The way I understand this, and I think the heart of what @theocast is try to show, it isn't that I do his commands, so I am a Christian. Rather, it is that I am a Christian, so I will do his commands. And in doing his commands, I have evidence of my faith in him.
@@klinestill
God's foreknowledge does not preclude free will. My son may react exactly as I foreknow under various conditions, that does not mean I wanted him to behave in that manner. Your Gnostic teaching is a vain philosophy that makes God the author of sin and suggests that life is little more than a behavioral algorithm.
Paul himself affirmed that we are to obey God's law in Romans 3:31 and Galatians 5:19-21, so you obviously make choices regarding your actions and those choices are yours and no one else's.
@@peterpiper6362
So what does it mean to be a Christian? According to the Apostle John, those who violate the commandments are outside the faith. Can they be regenerated through repentance? Of course. Can someone who has fallen away be restored? Of course. It's a question of the individual's genuine desire to know and obey the Gospel.
The Reformed teachers claim that good fruit is always produced by believers, however Jesus contradicts this clearly in John's Gospel. "Any branch *_in me_* that does not bear fruit, the Father discards." (John 15:2)
The parable of the talents in Matthew 25 also contradicts this. It was the servant who said, "Lord, I knew you would reap where you did not sow," and was empty handed at his Master's return, that was condemned.
It is possible for believers to be apathetic and to fall away. This channel is contributing greatly to the lukewarm theology of the modern apostate Church.
@@PETERJOHN101 I do not agree with your analysis. I pray that God will show you the true nature of his mercy and grace. While your response is heavy on your works, I read from the Bible that none seek after God (Romans 3:9-12) and that all are sinners (Romans 3:23), his propitiation is received by faith, not works (Romans 3:25, 27) and we are saved by grace through faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that all that God calls will come and never be cast away (John 6:37, 10:28-29). Don't get me wrong, works come as a result of salvation and it is the evidence of (James 2:18), but what you are arguing for is backwards. We don't obey his commands so that we can prove we are saved. We obey his commands because we are saved. The motive for obedience was not to be out of compulsion, but gratitude. If that is "lukewarm theology" to you, I will take it any day over a theology that paints a picture of my Lord and Savior as a tyrant who isn't concerned about my struggles with my sin nature.
@klinestill
"...God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
Stop your lying.
Enjoying cigars?!
Exactly what I was thinking.
Oh here we go with the self righteous fruit inspectors, for goodness sake smoking a cigar every now and then isn't even a sin, or at least, we don't have any biblical basis to say it is.
Bare in mind you puff cigars not inhale, so it doesn't really go into your lungs.
@@23045678 go ahead spread the leaven around