please actually watch the full video before trying to argue that this trial has nothing to do with feminism, or that siding with Amber is un-feminist. I'm not going to reply to people who have clearly missed the point.
The thing extremism in any point of view is harmful.... Not all women are saint simmilarly not all men are bad.... There should be a balance that's what this trial taught me... Psychological manipulation exist in both genders... Yes this trial is set back for all the development that happen with regards to women right but not because of johnny but because of amber who use the me too era for her own personal gain... That's the set back and that's what is going to cost women who speak up in future because people are going to use amber heard as an eg .... And this is the actual problem... But the mainstream media is not focusing on this... Hell they are undermining and not trusting their own justice system... This was televised trial we got to see the trial and formed our own opinion and was able to see first hand mainstream media manipulation.... And this is scary
@@mairajamal4953 I agree that extremism with generalisations is harmful, however, sociologically speaking, we need to use generalisations to study an issue in society. There is so much statistical evidence to show that gender-based violence (where men are the perpetrators against women) is rampant in society, and in order to tackle this issue we need to look at the issue as a whole, which requires generalising. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, and obviously people thought Johnny was the exception to this rule. But that's not the narrative that the masses are spreading. People are now using this to pretend as if women always lie about this. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether you believe Amber or not. What matters is your reasoning behind not believing her. And most people don't believe her because they are sexist.
@@mcgregorhumanities That isn't completely true though. It is a small group of men who do a vast majority of the gender based violence you are referring to. Generalizing in this case isn't "believe all women" but "repeat offenders commit most crimes". I think you mean that most violence is committed by men so we can generalize but that is a terrible way to look at things. That is how black people got stigmatized in America imo. I think you are right about the women lying point. But any generalization is roughly "bad person do bad things" or "bad circumstances make bad things happen" or some combination of the two in my opinion.
I agree with you, both did some malicious stuff… Also, both men and women can be abusive, whether overtly or covertly sometimes its impossible to tell. Example: an emotionally abusive husband who gets physically abused by the wife, who is the victim? Flip the script. Emotionally abusive wife get physically abused by the husband, who is the victim? Without having actual stats I know men are mostly the perpetrators. But, I have seen women frame up their men because they know society they live in will support them without question. Literally in the society I live in, men who report abuse are dismissed for not being men enough… So anytime a person cries wolf when there’s no wolf, it takes away from the progress we have achieved. Also, abuse, especially non physical is soooooo complicated. All in all, I wish celebrity cases did not carry as much weight in influencing progress
Just to add on, maybe the verdict would have been different if the trial was private. But this brings to question how society expects you to react when abused. If something happened yesterday vs 5 years ago, your emotional reaction is likely not going to be the same.
please actually watch the full video before trying to argue that this trial has nothing to do with feminism, or that siding with Amber is un-feminist. I'm not going to reply to people who have clearly missed the point.
I came in believing amber heard but watching this trial had an opposite effect on me.... I believe johnny
And you have every right to. Just as long as you don't use this to promote the harmful narrative that we shouldn't believe women.
The thing extremism in any point of view is harmful.... Not all women are saint simmilarly not all men are bad.... There should be a balance that's what this trial taught me... Psychological manipulation exist in both genders... Yes this trial is set back for all the development that happen with regards to women right but not because of johnny but because of amber who use the me too era for her own personal gain... That's the set back and that's what is going to cost women who speak up in future because people are going to use amber heard as an eg .... And this is the actual problem... But the mainstream media is not focusing on this... Hell they are undermining and not trusting their own justice system... This was televised trial we got to see the trial and formed our own opinion and was able to see first hand mainstream media manipulation.... And this is scary
@@mairajamal4953 I agree that extremism with generalisations is harmful, however, sociologically speaking, we need to use generalisations to study an issue in society. There is so much statistical evidence to show that gender-based violence (where men are the perpetrators against women) is rampant in society, and in order to tackle this issue we need to look at the issue as a whole, which requires generalising.
Of course there are exceptions to the rule, and obviously people thought Johnny was the exception to this rule. But that's not the narrative that the masses are spreading. People are now using this to pretend as if women always lie about this.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether you believe Amber or not. What matters is your reasoning behind not believing her. And most people don't believe her because they are sexist.
@@mcgregorhumanities That isn't completely true though. It is a small group of men who do a vast majority of the gender based violence you are referring to. Generalizing in this case isn't "believe all women" but "repeat offenders commit most crimes". I think you mean that most violence is committed by men so we can generalize but that is a terrible way to look at things. That is how black people got stigmatized in America imo. I think you are right about the women lying point. But any generalization is roughly "bad person do bad things" or "bad circumstances make bad things happen" or some combination of the two in my opinion.
I agree with you, both did some malicious stuff… Also, both men and women can be abusive, whether overtly or covertly sometimes its impossible to tell.
Example: an emotionally abusive husband who gets physically abused by the wife, who is the victim?
Flip the script.
Emotionally abusive wife get physically abused by the husband, who is the victim?
Without having actual stats I know men are mostly the perpetrators. But, I have seen women frame up their men because they know society they live in will support them without question.
Literally in the society I live in, men who report abuse are dismissed for not being men enough…
So anytime a person cries wolf when there’s no wolf, it takes away from the progress we have achieved.
Also, abuse, especially non physical is soooooo complicated.
All in all, I wish celebrity cases did not carry as much weight in influencing progress
Just to add on, maybe the verdict would have been different if the trial was private.
But this brings to question how society expects you to react when abused. If something happened yesterday vs 5 years ago, your emotional reaction is likely not going to be the same.
where are closed captions? accessibility is a right
I think you can apply auto captions by pressing the CC on the top right of the video
@@chantelombard9660 it works for me when I click on CC